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some of the country's top
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technology executives met on tuesday, but both seemed at odds act what the meeting was about. cropping to the lower levels since nixon. why are 15% of high schoolers getting medicated for it? after recently buying more than half a dozen others. what's the search engine giant up to? anchor man this week, you might think it's been out for a while. will this over the top campaign pay off with big box office numbers? this, we begin with some awful poll numbers for president obama, and the budget deal that is one step away. we begin with mr. obama and sometimes it seems as though it has all been downhill for him, at
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least since the obama-care roll out began. w that botched performance, perhaps it is no surprise when a washington news -- washington post abc news poll asks adults if they approved of the way he was doing his job, and 43% said yes, matching his presidency's low point. while a clear majority said no. senators agreed to take a final tally. over the next two years from the levels that were cut we the sequester. before the street, senator murray suggested the bill could be the start of something big. in bill takes the first steps towarding rebuilding our broken budget process. and hopefully, towards rebuilding our broken congress.
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and joining me here in the new york studio, a political strategist and former senior advise discoer, great to have you on the show as always. tom are the poll numbers simply put obecame ma care? >> it is also lack of trust. we like the president, now we don't trust the president. and a politician that is not trusted his poll numbers suffer.
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bill there is bad news on the poll in health care. 62% say they don't, and when they are asked if the president's signature program is making health care better or worse, this is an even more shocking number. less than one out of five say it is making healthcare better. nearly half say it is making it worse. democrats are saying those numbers are going to turn around. do you think that's right. >> well, you have to give them a voice. they have to speak up and support this president and say he gave me healthcare, we aren't hearing from those people, and we may not. because they are very suspicious, they don't know how it is going to work out. those who bound marry plans are canceled they are the ones that are speaking out.
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will may keep getting more bad publicity, because next summer we may see costs that may rise for small businesses? that is happening right as the elections are coming up in no.. so what happens to the democrats if that issue with the affordable care act becomes very public listening, it is hard to predict what will happen if it becomes very public. how they stand on this issue as opposed to the party. one thing they need to work on is both the messages that bill alluded to, the people that are actually beneficiaries of this, as well as the people who are running for office and running states.
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governors are saying it's working in this state. listening, it is problematic, but it is not devastating to the point that they can't work with this. this is about giving healthcare to americans. they have to get it down to a place where it hasn't been for a while. >> 15 silicon valley ceos. although i don't know how much quality there was, because the executives from twitter, yahoo, google and other firms expect there to be focused on surveillance. but instead, apparently, the meeting was about obama-care. is the white house just not getting the message together? listen, the answer to that question is very simply yes. the white house has not got. message together on this issue.
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they are working on changing the messaging, changing the way this is getting across, you have democratic senator whose have been charged with tweeting to their constituents about the successes in their states. they are trying to change the way people talk about it. but everybody want toss talk about it, and the white house doesn't realize that no one wants to talk about anything else until they fix that or have a good answer. and they want, tom, the obama administration, to be more aggressive about this. they want the administration to tell the nsa, if you are spying or going on to google or anything like that, you have to tell us so we can tell our customers, any chance
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that will happen? i think the tech people want what the american people have. take a position of i don't care if they listen to my phone calls. national security is more important to me. i think across the board, just give us the transparency of the program, and that's what i think is very much frustrating the tech people who went into an election, gave a lot of money, and never expected what they perceived to be the george bush agenda, other big issues. it doesn't seem to be helping the president. just over 40%, approved of the way the president is handling the economy. congressional republicans got a four personal point nod. and
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the so what is it going to take to turn around. >> well, the president is hoping that he will have what ragan had, and what clinton had, a boom. actually defense a bubble, but they thought it was a boom. they were all elected in a time of economic distress. and things actually got worse, much worse. in the second year, remember, it was morning in america. and clinton had a boom really a bubble at the end of the 1990's. people were making money hand over fist. it is not clear how we can get that. >> somewhat surprising but there are a couple of things attached to this recession.
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up with a deal -- >> it is mind boggling. this is one of the report that i looked at. 400,000-dollar grant to yale university. a duck's people losing in addition. seriously. when you think about that, how does that even work into a federal budget. when you see that the american people -- when you give a list of big tight items. you think about the things we can do for homeless people. think about the drug trade, other things, police, all the things we
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want to do, why is it that some politician other than control bourn says what are we doing. well -- >> it would be a home run. >> bill, very quickly, i can see you are dieing to weigh in. >> well, this is an old story. ive year he gave a golden fleece award. >> right. >> truely ridiculous, but the only thing you might be able to say here is number one, it would cost a lot of money to police these expenditures and second of all, businesses waste a lot of money too. not just the government. but they are still outrageous. at always, great to have you on the show, thank you for joining us. >> thank you. >> switching topics now the the on going conflict between china, it's neighbors and u.s. forces
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in the south china sea. secretary of state offered $40 million in maritime security assistance to philippine president on tuesday, as part of the u.s. response to china's claim of a new air defense zone and of rights to island chains in the sought china sea. >> we strongly opposed to coercionive, and aggressive tactics to advanced claims. >> . >> of forbes.com contributor and the author of nuclear show down.
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what is going on here, demanding that commercial airline give them notice. >> they go through they are claiming rights to all these islands in the sea. what is at the heart -- what is china trying to do? >> also they want them because they are there. because of the problems and the political system in beijing, you have weak civilian leadership, you have the people's liberation army becoming the most powerful faction in the party, this is a very bad story. they have been rising and
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there was a scare moment. a u.s. guided missle cruiser, nearly collided with a chinese naval vessel that was part of a group with china's first aircraft carrier. and according to the chinese accounts they were doing surveillance on the carrier when the incident took place. what is the danger. i think it is a real problem for news beijing. a consistent policy of defending freedom, and the chinese are trying to close off both their seas and their air space. the guided missle cruder, was certainly surveilling the fleet, but what the chinese did was they came within 200 yards by crossing the bow, that is extremely dangerous, and it is bound to lead to a problem. two law of averages says there's going to be a
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fatal accident, is we have been lucky it hasn't happened up to now. >> yes. >> in 40 million in aid to the philippines more than 42 million in aid to other nations to patrol their territorial waters. yeah, the chinese will be upset but there's nothing we can do that won't upset them. china is not able to have good relationships with the international community, with its neighbors, with us. a clear act of aggression, well they thought okay, we got away with that, let's ramp up pressure on japan and other countries. and that's what has been happening.
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it is not really working in the sense that japan has just announced new military spending in more than a decade, and the prime minister's nationalist guy, how significant is that assertive posture by japan? >> woman, it is significant. because at 1 point they were exactly where they wanted them. they were so willing to get along, and now they have provoked. and it isn't just the nationalists it is across the political spectrum. down into the islands close to the chinese, so we have had a real reshifting of focus on the part of japan. you are seeing nit street gnat, you are seeing it all across the region, so this isability a japan
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issue, this is an issue regarding beijing. >> and what does the u.s. have to do to keep tensions from getting out of hand? >> well, i think we need to shift our policies. everybody wants to ashowed the great tragedies so we have tried to engage the chinese. but as we have done so, we have taught them that aggression works. in fact what we have been doing is extending benefits. we are still inviting the chinese to the impact 2014 naval exercises. this is just nuts. >> gordon, we'll keep you in mind, and as always, thank you for joining us. >> coming up the adhd crisis in america, countless kids taking medications for a disorder they don't actually have. the top stories on the web, what is trending? >> antonio, an exclusive
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report reveals how police. s are using every day citizens as spies. i will tell you more coming up. and what do you think, join the conversation on twitter at a.j. consider this, and on our facebook and google plus pages.
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next diagnosis. a.d.h.d. drugs bring in nearly $9 billion to the pharmaceutical industry every year. that's five times more than they did just a decade ago. are being diagnosed withe the disorder. are we seeing an explosion of the cases. >> joining froes the new york times newsroom, who authored a piece titled
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the selling of attention deaf sis disorder. >> my pleasure. >> historically estimate effect 5% of children, but more than 15% of high school aged children have been diagnosed why is the discrepancy so large? >> well, i think we think that more than 5% have adhd now, in part because the environment is bringing it out. whether it's video games, or kids not having enough play time, or too many classrooms. but also the fact is that a lot of kids without adhd are being diagnosed as having adhd. certainly no parents or kid thinks that it is of those. but clearly something is going on. >> there isn't a conclusive test to definitely say that someone is effected by it. how much do you
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think that overdiagnosis problem is due to that? >> i think certainly if test,n't have an it is hard to misdiagnosis somebody with diabeteses or something like that. frankly, most psychiatric diagnosis if not all do not have ady fintive test, depression, schizophrenia, frankly, concussions do not have ady fintive test, we go by symptoms and we do our best to assess whether these symptoms fall into categories that would allow us to take the proper diagnose zych therapeutic approach to the perceived injury or malady. i think people blame it -- and the doctors applies the criteria, are often not doing a
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particularly careful job. is it an issue of parents purposing doctors they want them to be calmer and more successful in school? >> it is all over the place, sometimes that's it, sometimes it is the parents, sometimes it is the teacher. sometimes it is the doctor, just wanted to do whatever he or she can to help make a hectic life better. i think a lot of people involved with this, have decent intentions. they want to make the kid's life better, however, i think they aren't looking at possibly other options. it's not my place to say they should pursue those, but clearly the medication option is one that is being availed of an awful lot is i think a lot of people are concerned about it. >> you are right about how insidious the marketing is. how it began in schools and then pushing it on to
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parents and then later when direct consumer advertisements on tv were allowed we started seeing those and some of those made very big claims, america is only one of a few countries that allows pharmaceutical companies to directly market to consumers is that a part of the problem. >> oh, absolutely. these companies wouldn't spend this money, marketing to doctors and parents if it didn't work. clearly they have tremendous influence over both the prescribing habits and the interest that patients or the parents of patients in most of these cases have and we are talking about huge numbers. because the drug industry has soared. nearly $9 billion in sales that's more than five times what the drugs are bringing many just a decade ago, and now you write about how they are pushing the drugs on to adults, because some adult dozen have adhd.
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>> i think you have do look at the methods they use, the statements that they make, the devices that they use, to swing people towards wants the medication. this is not the selling of a cabbage perhaps toy. >> right, they have serious side effects. >> yes, they can. >> and create serious problems. >> absolutely. and so -- the issue is how are they doing this? to what extend are they doing it, are they crossing the line between what for profit industries do, in every arena, and what we want from a company that claims to be supportive of the chemical balance of children's brains. our article on sunday will get people to consider, gee, what have been the forces that have
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led us to allow this sitweigh to happen. less what did farma do, but more what did we let them do. i think that's the way to look at it. >> and there are significant consequences to this friday high school counts who use this recreation nally, not so much recreation nally but to help with tests and then you have kids that have been properly diagnosed that become drug dealers -- >> well, i think the kids that legitimately need them, and there are many of them, they don't trade the pills or give them away. and i have met a lot of kids that respect their diagnosis, and would never share them. you have the kids that fake the symptoms in order to get free sellable amphetamines.
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i would hate to malign that group because they -- you know, they need it. they should not be dissuaded. it is more the people abusing the system, the seasonal that allowed them to abuse it. >> that's the important point. not to say that adhd is not a serious condition. appreciate you coming. from overprescribing of adhd drugs to the overuse of over the counter supplements according to three new studies multivitamins are doing a lot less gone than you may think. in fact, they may be doing nothing at all, talk about that we are joined here in new york. great to have you back. >> an editorial said we believe the case is closed supplementing the
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diet of well nourished adults with most mineral or vitamin supplements has no clear benefit and might even be harmful. enough is enough. these three say does help cancer, doesn't help heart disease, is the case closed? >> well, i think that it's a little bit more complicated than that. if you don't have a nutritious diet, they may help you. >> why didn't that get out? who takes mobility vitamins every other day, in cases like that, where you aren't getting the best nutrition in the world
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a lot of people do rely on site mines for nutritional supplementation. if you can't do that, then you might really benefit from having them a day. >> it's a confusing message, that is coming out today. >> it is. but the studies are really well done. they look at these particular conditions, heart disease, cancer, they found for certain vitamins there may be harmful effects. so i think it is important for people to get that message. that there might be risks that you don't want to take a ton of vitamins and hope to have a benefit, but rather that if you have a small supplementation maybe for certain people it could be helpful. >> so you have to be very aware of what you are doing. but you know we do a lot of us take them. $30 billion a year are spent by americans on these multivitamins. do you think this message is going to sway people?
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is going to make people be educated about it? honestly, it hasn't convinced me. people choose where to intend your money. i guess in terms of multivitamin, it probably isn't as harmful for most people, just if they rely on it verse as regular diet. and the influence of pharmaceutical company is on those drugs, there's another big story in the medical world today which came from glasgo smith kline, one of the biggest companies in the word, they decided they are not going to pay doctors any more to promote their
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products or to -- based on the number of prescriptions that are written by doctors. this is the first drug company that has done that, how will this change the medical industry? >> i think it is a bold move, and i think it is great in terms of sending a message, people are concerned about this relationship, between doctors and between the pharmaceutical industry, but i think there is a gray area here. so of course, all of us are against anything that looks like bribery, corruption, fraud, these are things that have occurred in the past. and drug companies help to educate doctors. >> exactly. it goes both ways. what kinds of side effects are you seeing in patience from existing drugs. i think that is one area
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where there's beneficial drug companies and vice versa, drug companies about what the newer drugs are, they have to do some advertising, they have to educate on how to use their medications. >> within a couple of years the affordable care act will make drug companies disclose these payments. is the money involved so big that it is trying to get ahead of the curb and doesn't want to disclose this? right now if you want to publish in a medical journal, you have to disclose. that might be something that is also considered. >> how do you think this will be received? since it is already moving in that direction,
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i guess it will be all right. in terms of divorcing these two, pharmaceutical companies from doctors and other health care providers it may be a concern about how to use the drugs or develop new drugs that's where my concern would be. >> great to have you with us. >> thank you. >> time now to see what is trending on al jazeera website, let's check back in. >> antonio, an al jazeera america exclusive report details owe d.c. police are using every day citizens at spies. in an effort to prevent terrorist attacks. the metropolitan police department using trap wire, as software that taked so call suspicious activity from citizens then used an alga rhythm to figure out where there may bees an attack. experts say criminalize every day people, doing every day things. examples reports of a middle aged man taking photo with a cell phone
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camera, a middle eastern male wearing a backpack and looking at his watch, and another case a video gamer was reported for a threat he made while playing. trap wire only detected one threat pattern, in which two separate people report add person taking pictures at the i.m.s. and world bank. trap wire did not respond to emails or phone calls for comment. back to you. >> and straight ahead, why is google on a spending spree for robots? the electronic controversial next. plus, sicily is bursting with lava. it's top will also take a look at american volcanos. and later will, will ron burgundy's media britt mean box office gold?
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marketing campaign quite like the one for anchor man two. you know that old saying it is time to get the heck out of dodge? i say you get the heck into one. from car ads, to ben and injury's. but will it translate into box office dollars and will it change how movies are marketed? statute, great to have you here, but it has been everywhere. and it seems like it has been everywhere forever.
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has any movie ever been marketed like this? and if there hasn't been one, i don't think there has, why hasn't it been? >> i think it is a matter of convincing the stars to go out and do this work. it has had farrell at the center of all the stuff. they sot 70 of those spots. he recorded hundreds of lines of dialog for the little jokeky game where you fry to throw ice cubes into his glass of scotch, so you know, he is worked very very hard on it, and it suggests to me that his contract is pretty hefty. >> also he may be getting some serious money as a result. >> yeah. >> if the box office is good or not. the dodge ats have worked. >> absolutely. >> and the sales are up 40%, there's an ought biography, we have the ice cream, the scotch economy scotch scotch. i am going to try this after the show.
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>> you will have to let scotch. >> i hear it is more like butter scotch. >> oh, well. >> we have seen movies that have -- especially the toy story. >> sure. >> and kids movies that have all these toys tied into them, but this is just completely different? >> it seems to me to be. again, will farrell is kind of -- he is the money for this movie. they are all fairly big movie stars and generally speaking a lot of the guys are just like no, i just want to do the movie, i don't want to talk about this, farrell has not done that, he has gone very far appealed, he has gone to emerson. they renamed the school for him. >> let's look. it is the fictional character. he took over emerson's college school of communication for a day. he called a curling event in winnipeg canada. the multivitamin seem in
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washington, d.c. has a ron burgundy exhibit that is going to last for almost a year through august. he has even co anchored the 6:00 news in bismark north dakota. >> you look lovely tonight. >> thank you, you too. >> are you married? >> no. >> well, i am. so don't get any ideas. >> so we have done our own social media poll to see if people are thinking this is too much, and let's go to see what our viewers told us. >> a lot of the people said no they plan -- some people the marketing is a turn off. viewer says no, sadly too, i loved anchor man but i am annoyed with the overkill, velocity ron burgundy everywhere, too much. some interesting results, what do you think? >> definitely interesting, dui there's a risk of overexposure? >> i don't, and i'm not saying that those people aren't tell thing truth,
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but i do think that that the number of beam who get turned off by 24 marketing blitz very very small there regular to the number that it reaches. awareness leads to a big opening. >> a lot of the people think it opened months ago, cnn got in on the game, let's check these promos with their talent. >> ron, burgundy, one of the most influential actors in broadcast history. a major [bleep] >> on camera, he is the best. but off camera, he is a bit of a [bleep]. >> we started anderson cooper, still loomed -- literally. there was a cardboard cut out of him blocking one of our lights he had in his contract that it could never be removed. it is a
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huge pain in the [bleep]. >> not sure what journalism professors would say. >> i feel like they are trying to -- going for a lighter tone these days. one thing you write about, is the social aspect of this, again, unprecedented efforts. eyes, it is unpress debited. the blitz on timber, and facebook, has been truly amazing. i feel like it is something where if you look at the original movie and see how it has been cut down into its parts it is kind of piecemeals anyway. it was social media before social media. >> in effect the movie is probably more popular now than it was. >> oh yeah. >> it was okay, a mild success, paramount did not want to do a sequel,
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said no three separate times. but now is there any doubt given all this buzz it has gotten that it will be a major success. >> i don't think there's any doubt about the opening weekend. studios can tell for a film is tracking well, if it doesn't look like it is going to do well, they go to february. that's why you see all your favorite directors worse movies in the middle of january or march. after that it is anyone's guess, if the movie is not good, people won't go. but i don't think there's much doubt that it is going to do pretty well. >> it could make it a pretty successful movie. >> it could. there's also a different side to the economics because in effect with these dong ads and with the ice cream, and these things going on, could they be making so much
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money on the side off of this show? that it changes the whole economics in. >> i would love to know the number. the man of steal made 100 -- just completely off the product placement. there's a denny product placement, and every brand you can think of is in the movie, and it is a little distracting to me. was the movie only cost 223 million -- maybe -- so you know. >> almost profitable before it even opened. >> right.
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