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authorities have called more in. obviously, we're going to bring you more, i'm tony harris in new york, and have a good evening. >> it went down in the southern indian ocean - the latest grim details about the missing malaysian airliner. deadly force on camera, the albuquerque is under federal investigation. what is it like to be american and imprisoned in iran - three hikers share their harrowing ordeal. >> and america's greatest concentration of wealth. >> i'm antonio mora, welcome to "consider this". here is more
of what's ahead. >> it's the news people have been dreading. >> flight mh370 ended in the southern indian ocean. >> 200 families out there who have been bereaved are grieving. >> this is news that the relatives have been waiting two weeks to not here. >> crimea, ukraine divorce is not amicable. >> russia has been thrown out if from the g8. >> we are united in imposing a cost on russia for its actions so far. >> questions are mounting over a police-involved shooting. >> it appears james boyd was ready to cooperate. >> he was going to go down on the ground. >> it is "how's of absurd." >> a whistle came off that no one can hear, except the richest people in the world, and they came like dogs. >> we begin the hour
with disdrought family members, who after a 17-day wait received the news they didn't want to hear. malaysian airliner flight mh370 plunged into the south indian ocean, a vast and remote region on earth. malaysia's prime minister said the plane was lost. >> it's very difficult. the one thing they want to know is the answer we don't have, ones. >> for some the news was too much to bear, and some refused to believe it. >> translation: what does this mean? who am i supposed to trust. they are all telling lies. >> a british communication company concluded that the final pings came at 8am malaysian time
from the torn indian ocean. >> we are joined by tom wood. his brother philip wood, an ibm executive was on the flight. thank you for joining us on a day that is difficult for your family, how are you doing? >> it has been a rough day up and down. we are doing okay, thank you for asking. it started off with us believing definitively that the plane had gone down and, you know, we - i got home to take care of my folks and help them out. we haven't seen any proof that the plane went down. we are ready to accept, you know, if - if this is the end, you know, if this is the truth, but we really would like to see something - some piece of the plane, or have better proof than
what they've been providing. >> do we know that your brother's girlfriend sara refuses to believe this until evidence is found. is there anything, just the wreckage or the black box recorder, is there anything suggesting "okay, i can begin the process of grieving?" >> we have been grieving all along. it's accepting the finality. something with the serial number on it, or the black box - better proof than what they are providing right now. it's just - it's emotionally draining, mentally draining going through this, and then not really have anything. >> there was a message on your family's finding philip wood saying: >> i know that you and your
family spent time with your brother in texas before he travelled to asia, we are all glad that you had that time with him. remembered? >> i just want him to be remembered as a wonderful guy that cared about people and loved god and followed god and was giving and forgiving, and generous, and artistic, adventure us. just all the things that make an interesting and wonderful brother, son, father. he was a good guy. he was my buddy. >> well, our condolences go to you and friends and family. philip wood, and everyone on the flight, we hope pleasant memories of your brother sustain you in this difficult time, and condolences to all involved.
>> our faith and memories - thank you very much. >> for more now, we are joined from san diego. she's a senior analyst. she worked on the team that found air france flight 447. and from austin texas, the editor-in-chief of "flying magazine", and is a commercial jet and pilot. i want to start with you, the jet veered from its source. what about the analysis, using complex maths and doppler radar figuring the plane must have gone down because the final ping as 8am over the vast ocean. what do you make of it? >> first of all, if i can take a second to say my heart goes out to the friends and families as well, it is a difficult time. we are flying family, we are
thinking of all the folks. as far as the search for the airplane, the science used to do this is phenomenal, it's one the greatest science stories i have heard. over the past two plus weeks they've developed a system to track the aircraft by using the pings and trianningulation with the satellites in doppler to use incredibly accurate clocks to track what direction the airplane was travelling in, and how fast, based on the doppler shift that occurs, in the same way that astronomers learnt which way stars are moving. it's a phenomenal science, it's never before been done, the and the fact it developed under duress is a fantastic story. i believe the science, it's the first thing i believed about the
in. >> do you believe the science? what do you make of it? >> this is the first explanation i heard as to the position reports. i'm encouraged to hear that. >> the black box is yet to be found. some say investigators say there may only be two more weeks of battery life. what do you make of the probability or possibility of eventually. >> several things have to happen. we are in the right part of the world. we have to pick up a piece of wreckage that came from the aircraft, once it's in our hands and we identified it, we can put it into the computer model and backtrack it. it's called reverse drift analysis, and we did this for the air france search, it works well if it's a couple of days
and the currents are predictable. here the currents are gnarly - to use a technical term - and it's been 16 days. it will create an area of large uncertainty, a big crowd of where the aircraft or wreckage could have come from. we'll have our work cut out, and covering the area with the signal. >> as the certainty gets bigger, what happened on the plane that never made it near beijing. why would someone familiar with the plane's navigation divert it so radically from the original course. any theorys? >> yes, there's two theories, and one is that there was some kind of major mechanical malfunction, or a fire explosion.
i think now that we have confidence that the aircraft wreckage is going to be found in the far southern indian ocean, i think those two theories become unlikely, you have to posit that the aircraft would have been disabled to a degree that they couldn't communicate or broadcast the emergency. the way i figure, fly for six hours, until it got to the spot where the last ping was heard. it's unlikely that's the case. i think a more likely scenario is that there was some kind of attempt to command ear the aircraft. i don't know who by or any of those details. and i hope we can find the black boxes and learn the details so that the families of those victims can have answers. we all want answers.
>> you made a reference to difficult weather in the southern indian ocean. one expert referred to it as a pin ball machine. what are researchers up against, and how long might the effort to find the black boxes take? >> well, let's say they find the piece of wreckage, this yellow or bright orange object, they pull it aboard and it's a life preserver or a raft. okay, we have the first peak of wreck ig, we know fairly well the leeway and how it will float in the water. the coast guard can put it into the model and backtrack it. they'll do a simulation where they have uncertainty, and it will produce an area, not just a pip point of where the raft --
pinpoint of where the raft will come from. that'll get the sonars in the what and we'll listen to it. we may be lucky. both pingers on both black boxes were disabled by the crash and there was not a signal to hear. i'm hoping in this case there's one source that we can lisp to if we get close enough. >> and it's a grim reminder that in the air france crash, it took two years to find the black boxes. >> colleen and robert, thank you for joining us. >> this program starting at 12:30 eastern time, al jazeera america will carry is a live news conference from malaysia with the latest from the flight mh370 tragedy. >> there are growing
fears about troops along the border. the take over of the crimean peninsula appears complete. ukrainian marines said goodbye at the naval base, the last base held by ukraine until troops stormed it monday morning. president obama was in netherlands for a meeting of the g7 nations. it was the g8 until russia was suspended until they change course on ukraine. >> russia was reminded that its take over was not cost free. >> europe and america are united in our support of the ukrainian people and government. there'll be a cost on russia for its actions. >> whatever the cost for its actions so far, they don't seem to have had much effect. we are joined from washington
d.c. by kurt voek ler, an ambassador. suspending russia from membership in the g8 is a cause, but russian foreign minister sergei lavrov said it was no great tragedy for russia. is it something that russia will wrist? >> at this point it's a diplomatic gesture. russia is taking significant strategic steps to acquire territory to add to the russian federation to you night citizens and push back on the encroachment to the west, that it perceives, and sees the steps we are taking, such as exclusion from the g8 or targeted sanctions as small steps compared to what russia is gaining out of this. i believe they feel they can weather this. the sanctions are probably seen as temporary.
>> do you see the meeting between secretary of state john kerry and sergei lavrov as a stalling tactic as they try to make a decision on what to do? >> diplomacy follows force. the alignment of the powers that exist, and the forces that exist in the world, define the playing field and diplomats negotiate saying "let's try this, let's try that. you have a situation where russia is using force. others are not. russia feels they can get away with what they are doing. and in that environment diplomacy for russia is a means of achieving ground. >> g7 leaders released a communique reading:
>> russia has tens of thousands of troops on the ukraine border. it is possible they are preparing to move in. do you belief it's possible and the threat of sanctions would action. >> it's possible. >> the question is what would effectively deter russia. >> russia has taken out the military instrument, has been willing to use it and not felt a push back. it's taken over crimea and the military bases. it's acquired the equipment. barely a shot has been fired. this will be an encouragement to russia to say, "we can do this further and go elsewhere." >> we'll see movement to acry transittria, a russian-speaking moldova, and pressure to link
the territory between therefore, moldova and crimea. that is acquiring a bit of ukrainian territory. >> and if russia tries to acquire this area, what should the e.u. do. what is the option? >> the key thing i would stress is we need to put in place sanctions on russia that hurt now, that cause russia to negotiate out of them. the way we played this is to put in place a response to what russia has done and threaten more, if russia is to do more. what russia would respond to is having severe penalties in place that hurt immediately, that it would want to get out of, then we could negotiate from there. >> if russia moves into the region, do you foresee violence,
as you mentioned, with no shots fired so far. sudden? >> if there's an effort to acquire additional territory, i believe the ukrainians will fight back. secondly, it is imperative for the united states and n.a.t.o. to make clear that we will assist ukraine and provide military advisors, be willing to sell equipment, position some nato forces and territory so that russia knows that the potential costs of further military adventurism is too high to bear. >> thank you for joining us, we appreciate it. >> thank you. >> 25 years after the exxon valdez flushed oil into the prince arthur sound, there's a new concern along texas. >> the deadly shooting of a
>> monday marks 25 years to the day when the exxon valdez oil tanker ran aground off the coast of alaska causing an environmental disaster, an incident that reverberates in the business and environmental communities. yet spills on a smaller scale continue to happen with some regularity. this past weekend a fuel oil spill has shut the shipping channel between gall vass tonne bay and the gulf of mexico. >> we intend to protect the public from exposure to the oil. we'll remove the oil from the environment, protecting
sensitive environmental areas before we move the oil. >> we talk to the author of "disaster on the horizon - high stakes, high risks and the story behind the deep water well blow out", how big, bob, is the fuel spill and how significant might the impact be? >> this spill is considerably smaller than the bp blow-out that happened in the gulf, or the exxon valdez, but it's a pretty substantial problem in the gulf of mexico, and the gall veries tonne bay, next to the gulf of mexico. this is bunker oil. 4,000 barrels. it's a low residual oil. the timing couldn't be worse, because this is the peak time for migratory birds. a lot of environmentalists are concerned about the oil on the water at this time.
>> the coast guard says it's trying to take all precautions. how different is what they say to the public to what is happening behind the scene. >> gone gall veries tonne island they are very active. they are saying the bird count is ten times what the coast guard is reporting, counting 60 birds, and they think there's oiled. >> we mention that monday marks 25 years, what aftereffect is prince william sound suffering. >> the problem with prince william sound is they have experienced long-term damage to the eco system. the herring population has not returned and because of that a lot of the bird population has not returned.
that's a major area. something similar has affected gall veries tonne in the past. it damages the migratory population. the environmental community and concerned. >> i understand a lot of companies do a cost risk analysis. explain what it moons, and why the spills are happening? >> the technology that we use to clean up spills is pretty much the same as it was four years ago for the bp spill, 20 for exxon valdez - it's old booms and skimming like it has been. because we don't take stronger regulatory positions from the government, our politicians do not demand better performance, the companies do what is most efficient for them
economically and strategise in paying the fines, rather than improving the technology. because we don't hold executives personally responsible, like during the enron crisis in 2001, because we don't hold executives responsible any more, basically they pay a fine, so they don't feel a personal risk for themselves to having the problems. make. >> next few weeks will they bring in the gall veries tonne bay effort. >> there's about 40 ships dropped out there, and 40 ships in the gulf trying to get in. right now everyone is scrambling, the coast guard is scrambling hard to get the oil cleaned up. because it's bunker fuel, it will be difficult and a long
clean-up. that will concern the population and the environmentalist. >> bob cavanagh, thank you for talking to us. you. >> now, to a disturbing video raising questions about a new mexico police department under investigation. a warning to our viewers - you may find the footage disturbing. you are watching the end of a 3-hour standoff between albuquerque police and a homelessman, jams boyd, in the distance illegally camping on the hill. he appeared to be gathering his instructed. >> do it. on the ground. get on the ground. get on the ground now. >> get on the ground. get on the ground. >> keep your heads up.
hand. hand. >> behind you. is he moving. >> don't hurt me. >> drop the knife. hand out to your side. >> bean bag, bean bag. drop the knife. >> drop the knife. >> drop the knife. >> albuquerque police say the reactions were justified because boyd, after being hit with the stun grenade, picked up a knife. we are joined by stephanie lopes joining us from albuquerque, from the police operations. mr boyd appeared to be cooperating before getting shot six times. what happened? >> i know you say looking at the video and seeing the video and talking to the officers involved in the situation.
i know a bit more. i can hear the audio and have seen the video. less lethal force was used prior to the exchange where he was hit with a taser that had no effect on him. it appears that he's turning away. that's the impact of a rifle taser hitting him in the upper caf itty and it spins him in that direction. because he had multiple layers of clothing, it did not take him to the ground. at that point he was armed with two knives. this man had no intent of surrendering. after a 3-hour standoff, longer than three hours, it was closer to the four hours. we did everything as a department from the crisis intervention training. he asked for a different agency, we had a negotiator, it was a lengthy process, and you are only seeing a small glimpse of
what the lapel camera is showing you, and from the angle the officer was standing. >> it was a taser, it's fired and he's not near the police officers when they see the knife. didn't seem like he has at imminent threat holding a knife at 20 feet. >> you see - you don't hear the taser being deployed. if you play the video and listen, before they threw the stun in, he's been daysed, then they throw the flash bag in and the dog deployed, because he's not going down with the taser. you have another officer coming in. you see him swipe at the dog. knife... >> and his handler.
>> because he's swiping at the dog with the knife, that's the justification for the police opening fire? >> no, you've missed a lot more of the situation. this was a lengthy call. i'm not sure if you guys had the opportunity to see the footage that they showed at the local televised stations where this man is telling the officers "i will personally hunt you down and kill you and your families that is my promise to you." as i said, this extended close to four hours long. he picked up boulders and threw them at officers. it escalated. they were probably hoping to have the situation deescalated, at which point in time he armed himself with the knife. >> we have time issues here.
but kurk hired four times the national average. what do you say to people that say the police are too quick to fireand shoot at people? >> not at all. i know someone made a quote to say that we were above the everything of what the new york police department is, which is six times larger than we are. >> looking at us in comparison to larger metropolitan cities is the response time. i'm proud to say officers that we have get to calls quickly. and see the crime as it's occur, which is not the same situation in other metropolitan areas, you have the majority of the officers on foot patrol, so the response time is slower.
they won't actually catch a crime in progress occurring. when you have a violent crime at hand. officers that arrive on scene are reactionary process to the actions that the person that they are dealing with set forth in motion, and knows what he wants to do. >> thank you stephanie lopez, and the albuquerque police department pledged to cooperate with the justice department investigation. thank you for your time. >> now it's time to see what is interesting on the web. let's check in with harmeli that. >> the fight for social media access in turkey is ramping up. on monday a claim was filed arguing last week's twitter ban violated constitutional rights. people were using alternative servers, but turkish courts moved to block that access. google
denied a request to take down youtube videos casting president recep tayyip erdogan in a bad light. tweets out of turkey are down from last week, but they are not out. on monday twitter reiterated support for people tweeting: >> let us know what you think as the story develops. >> straight ahead - what is it like to be american and in prison in iran for two years. you hear from american hikers whose ordeal drew attention. >> and a growing number head to wall street after college. >> and we take you inside new york's wealthiest address.
>> these protestors have decided that today they will be arrested >> these people have chased a president from power, they've torn down a state... >> what's clear is that people don't just need protection, they need assistance. the stream is uniquely interactive television. in fact, we depend on you, your ideas, your concerns. >> all these folks are making a whole lot of money. >> you are one of the voices of this show. >> i think you've offended
everyone with that kathy. >> hold on, there's some room to offend people, i'm here. >> we have a right to know what's in our food and monsanto do not have the right to hide it from us. >> so join the conversation and make it your own. >> watch the stream. >> and join the conversation online @ajamstream. >> for three young americans a summer hike in the mountains of kurkize stan become months and years after being imprisoned.
the three were waved across the border. expected to be held briefly and released, but instead they were taken to prison and charged with being american spies. after effort by friends and families and help from oman government sara was released after 14 month, most in solitary confinement. shane and job were freed after spending two years in prison. as far as rain is concerned all were set free on bail for half a million each. the three wrote a book an the ordeal. we are joined from washington by joshua fatal, investigative journalist shane bauer and sharah, writer, educator and involved in a wed based project amounted at bringing solitary confinement out of the shadows and into the light. they are the coauthors of "a sliver of light."
>> what happened, how did you cross the iranian border without knowing what you had done? >> sara and i were living in syria, i was a journalist, sara was teaching and josh travelling and teaching internationally and came to visit. we decided to go to iraqi kurdistan. a couple of million go there every year. it was named one of the top 41 places in the world to visit, by the "new york times". we took a short trip, visited castles, and wanted to get out of the city. our hotel manager pointed us to a water fall area named aqmadala - we went there... (technical difficulties)
the stream is uniquely interactive television. in fact, we depend on you, your ideas, your concerns. >> all these folks are making a whole lot of money. >> you are one of the voices of this show. >> i think you've offended everyone with that kathy. >> hold on, there's some room to offend people, i'm here. >> we have a right to know what's in our food and monsanto do not have the right to hide it from us. >> so join the conversation and make it your own. >> watch the stream. >> and join the conversation online @ajamstream. today's data dive gets the weekend off, at least on wall street. 90 hour work weeks were a right of passage for new recruits in the financial sector. the bank of america is giving
junior bankers four days off each month. credit suisse has followed suit telling young employees not to work on saturday. it's because of quality of life from the tech sector. 80% of harvard grads chose tech companies, and the portion going into finance dropped to 27% - down 8%. it's the same at yale and cornell. among graduates priorities are changing. 70% of those polled said that work schedule flexibility was the most important non-financial benefit. time off and vacation came in second. hours may be better in the tech world. financial jobs pay better. the "wall street journal" found stamford grads at tech had amounts of
$158,000, and financial grads, $285,000. quality of life may add the stereotypes. 75% of americans said older workers have a stronger work ethic that younger workers. coming up, higher taxes are not >> start with one issue ad guests on all sides of the debate. and a host willing to ask the tough questions and you'll get... the inside story ray suarez hosts inside story weekdays at 5pm et / 2pm pt only on al jazeera america al jazeera america. we open up your world. >> here on america tonight, an opportunity for all of america to be heard. >> our shows explore the issues that shape our lives. >> new questions are raised about the american intervention. >> from unexpected viewpoints to live changing innovations,
come here to manhattan. it's the luxury high-rise, celebrities, c.e.o., a place where a russian billionaire bought a penthouse to give to his daughter, and that's not the best apartment in the building. joining us in the building is author of "house of outrageous fortune, 15 central park west, the world's most powerful address." after bill de blasio was collected, economists said "the wealthy will flee." is didn't happen. . >> bill de blasio quietly met with real estate developers, and he wasn't going to do anything to mess them up. he went to the rich and said "shh." and he has been blundering so much, people are not as worried. >> despite the mayor's
blundering, there's something about 15 central park which wealthy. >> it's money. it's a building that looks old-fashioned, and a building that was conceived and market to capture the money slushing around the world, and get it into one building. >> one of the cheapest condo, is 1,000 square foot, one bed, 1.5 bath, and the cost 5.65 million. if you have the money to spend, go with the 6,000 square foot five bed, five bath for a school 65 million. 6,000 square feet for a home is a lot.
65 million. >> go back to the 6.65 million, sandy wild, the founder of citigroup. he used it when he renovated his penthouse, which he sold for $88 million. he's been living there. it's one bedroom, sandy while's. >> what are the amenities that they get. >> regardless whether you live in a cheesy back of the bus apartments or penthouse, you have a lap pool, private massage rooms and restaurant. and provide room service. conference center and gardens. >> if you go to the river, you get public housing prices. what does it say about the gap york. >> new york is a melting pot in
the democracy. what is interesting is i trace the development of the neighbourhood, going back to urban planning. that story was told in the play and the movie. he cleared out a neighbourhood of poor people as well as housing for rich people, so everybody could live together, york. >> what is it about new york that encourages people whether you are at the middle income or higher income scale, to spend more than a leafy suburb. >> why wouldn't you want to be in the center of center of anything. if you go to london and live in mayfair - they are probably more expensive than new york. you'll be surrounded by foreigners. all the londoners are on the edges. in new york, everyone is together. you have restaurants, theatre, shopping, culture, insanity.
everything is here, outside your front door. fair to assume most of the people have several properties and additions. >> a lot have four or five houses. the interesting thing about central park west is it was designed to be a home. it's a primary residents, they are raising children, it's a real home for people, it's not vault. >> it's on the beautiful part of the south-west part of central park. doorism. >> exactly. >> it's perfectly positioned. you can get everywhere, even if you don't have a car and driver. >> it is a pleasure talking with you again. >> the book is... >> house of outrageous fortune, the world's most address. >> anything surprise you. >> so much. every day.
you can't write a book and not be constantly surprised. find out about the good behaviour. this is a building where muslims, israelis, coloured people, white people, a little bit of everything, and they live happily, many of them by the way started as poor as dirt. and they earnt their way into the building. put all else aside. all the funny stories and gossip, it's the american dream. >> it's been a pleasure talking to you. >> the show may be over, and the conversation continues on the website. or on the facebook or google+. remember, antonio mora talks to jimmy carter on tuesday. until then, we'll see you, thanks >> join us on consider this...
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