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tv   Real Money With Ali Velshi  Al Jazeera  December 7, 2014 5:00pm-5:31pm EST

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i'm richelle carey. "real money" weekend is next. and for updates for news around the world, check out keep it here. thanks for your time. the new cold war between russia and the west, russia's president vladimir putin says he will not be intimidated and shows no signs of pulling out of ukraine. former fbi special agent was one of america's powerful weapons in the war on terror. i'll find out if he believes the u.s. has the right strategy to defeat i.s.i.l. helping the chronically homeless - how your tax dollars are used to change one of the america's most intractable problems. i'm ali velshi, and this is "real money".
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the new cold war, russian president vladimir putin lark out at american policies, defending actions in crimea and ukraine in a state of the nation address, following an announcement that russia is scrapping a natural gas pipeline that was supposed to go through bulgaria and send gas to southern europe. instead it will boost supplies to turkey using existing pipelines. vladimir putin blamed the european union refusal to give the go ahead for the multi billion project saying it left moscow with no other options. russia's relations with the west are at their lowest point in years because of the crisis in ukraine. the new cold war brewing had a dry run in another former soviet
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republic, georgia. and many issues that played out are the same as what we are seeing today. go back to 2003. that's when georgians elected suck us veilee president. a young reformer, he promised to rein in corrosion and bring separatist regions back into georgia's fold. two of those regionsal lied with russia. in 2006 the south osetians went a step further, voting for independence in a referendum that should being as veily denounced as illegal, but the russians accepted. two years later george w. bush lobbied allies to admit gormia and ukraine into the western military alliance, angering moscow. when should being us veily unleashed military, russian troops i'm vaded -- invaded.
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russian tanks cut off the highway and jets bombed the main port city. russian troops advanced to the outskirts of gormia's capital -- georgia's capital tib leasy. they stopped when french mediation ended the conflict. in five days of fighting 1,000 died and 130,000 were displaced from their homs. sure, the united states and n.a.t.o. denounced russia's aggression, but didn't do much less. in a prequel to the crisis in ukraine russian troops are permanently stationed in south ossetia and ocasia and there's talk of russia one day annexing one or both regions. mikhail suck us veily left office after losing an election as president of georgia. he spends a lot of team in new york city.
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as for georgia, suck us veilee faces corruption charges. i spoke the former georgian president and had a conversation off to a lively start. i suggested his decision to attack south osyetia triggered a war with russia that cost georgia dearly. >> i didn't order an attack, we were invaded by an army and i ordered troops to defend the army, it as slight difference, but an important one. >> but for the difference, the situations have a lot in common. >> yes. i think the realities that russia relishes power. and it's a window of opportunity for it. the west is focused on i.s.i.s., i.s.i.l. one would for priorities, it's ukraine. vladimir putin told the we were journalist "i'm a tiger, this is my forest and jungle" here i can do whatever much that is a
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jungle law introduced in all the world. he's implementing it. the problem is there can be no deal. vladimir putin says you care about i.s.i.s., i care about the country. the only problem is when he goes after a country, he's going after the west. he's seeing it as against the united states and the west. that's how the deal cannot be made. there's a major discrepancy out there. when he sees it as the west, the irony is ukraine, like georgia, is not a member of the e.u., and is not a member of the n.a.t.o. they get so much support from the west. it's a careful ploy. >> well, this is complicated situation. west has a lot of liver ridge, what can be done? lots of things. they start to work. reality - oil price is key to the situation. the west can implement lower or
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keep the oil price at a level or bring it a little lower. if it stays, goes to 60, vladimir putin dead. if they go after vladimir putin's money, there's billions in western banks. there's something - they should go aad with that. that is -- ahead with that. that is important. ukraine and other countries, it's a large country, big population. it will be armed. chuck hagel was one of the principal architects writing a report in 2008, after georgia and the russian war. he was an early advocate of the policy. until then, there was no defensive weapon. you had secretary of defense in first place. we didn't believe in it. now there are changes in washington. so that might help to do. ultimately that's the world we are talking about. >> what about the understanding,
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that the pressure has been put on russia because troops are showing up many of its former republics are nato members, and russia is feeling a little cornered in. >> i think it's not a correct way. we cornered russia. they don't care what the west does. it's not about we irritate russia. there are lots of useful idiots in the west saying it's our fault. same way as saying hitler has his interests, we should understand. incidentally, the things that vladimir putin are saying closely resembles what vladimir putin was doing, and saying what he was saying before the world war ii. the reality that vladimir putin would be aggressive no matter what. from the beginning he proclaimed this is his goal to reassert soviet sphere of influence, and squeeze out the west from there. the west can apiece him, many say let's apiece him.
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but he proved by these things, the west basically appeased him to georgia, then crimea happened. they apiece crimea, and ukraine happens. >> you say if oil goes $60 it will crush them. >> absolutely. >> it will put companies out of business that produce oil. and at that point we have an oil supply problem. >> what happens is two sides. in case of russia, it will be a problem, and long run forcing russia to be a normal economy, and being a normal country. >> normal diversified. >> diversified, modernized, opening up the political system, giving people more say. the whole thing is this is a result of shale gas. that's all with the united states. this is back to the u.s. but going back to the situation, today just putting it on the
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offensive. it's almost noted, because there's russian government in georgia. basically they made the deal to annex important strategically important territory. it's 230km of the coast, seaports. oil there. amazing place. very important place. just today vladimir putin with not much ado about it, quietly, signed a deal to annex it. why was he there to do this? >> they didn't call it annexation. they called it a military... >> they moved 200km in georgian territory. they diluted the border. and basically between the region of georgia and russia, and moved their troops, and they united
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their garment systems, the army and whoever is left, 20% has no say. they are just - they've been sidelined, this is vladimir putin. he did a coup before that. russian security - and basically now took over. with silent acquiescence, europeans that didn't want the headache... >> that's the way a lot of people are thinking about the soviet union. >> again, he does it, he thinks there's a window of opportunity. there's a thing with that major city in congress, that i.s.i.l. is diverting resources and europeans are kind of hesitated. he is mistaken, but we should be aware of a serious escalation. it's doable. i think he'll be contained.
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but it's bet done sooner than later. let's see what merkel does. hopefully they understand that that was former president. up next, from the new cold war to the war on terror, i talk about the threat i.s.i.l. is writing with a man that is a most feared counterterrorism agent. tell me what's on your mind:
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to the brink of economic ruin >> this is because of a corrupt deal to an assigned to basically support two dodgy businessmen an israeli one, and an egyptian one... >> al jazeera exposes those who made a fortune betraying an entire nation >> you don't feel you owe an explanation to the egyptian people? >> >> al jazeera investigates egypt's lost power on al jazeera america
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>> a conflict that started 100 year ago, some say, never ended... revealing...
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untold stories of the valor... >> they opened fire on the english officers... >> sacrifice... >> i order you to die... >> and ultimate betrayal... drawing lines in the sand that would shape the middle east and frame the conflict today >> world war one: through arab eyes continues episode three: the new middle east on al jazeera america
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>> it's about the real economic value that the program delivers. >> being homeless, being out in the street, i hit bottom here. >> you were in this neighborhood because there were drugs here? >> yes. >> where would you sleep? >> anywhere along here. >> back in 2008 valerie wilkinson has been living on the streets for two years, drinking and hooked on heroin and battles depression she found a safe haven at a school in harlem. how did you get away from it? >> i got sick and tired of being sick and tired. >> she finally sought help from a nonprofit agency engaged in homeless outreach called center for urban community service or cucs. >> we have a problem with homelessness in new york city. it's a huge problem, and i think we have to work at it. >> erica runs the homeless
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outreach services for cucs. it's a program i've come to know well through my volunteer work with them over the past year. >> the chronically homeless, they're a different population than people short-term homeless because of a shift in the economy or some kind of a domestic situation. these are folks in some cases who have been out for many, many years? >> yeah. we've had folks that have been out for 15, 20 years. >> early every morning teams from cucs set out onto the streets looking for folks sleeping outside in upper manhattan. good morning. >> hi, good morning. we're with the outreach program. >> the chronically homeless make up 15% of the total homeless population. many struggle with mental illness or substance abuse, and in the end their homelessness puts a huge drain on public resources. each person costs taxpayers up to $50,000 annually in social services they use. >> maybe someone called 911 because they're laid out on the street. that's a cost of ems coming
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there. if they're incarcerated, there's a cost of housing them in jail. substance abuse, detox or rehab programs. >> she says that the emergence of the housing first model has changed all that. it's a program that uses public money to heavily subsidize apartments for the chronically apartment. >> it's the idea that you don't have to be sober or on medication for mental illness to be placed into housing. just because you need a home makes it so that you can get a home. >> critics say this strategy of prioritizing housing first before getting clean or addressing mental health issues rewards bad behavior and could be downright irresponsible, but it has spread to hundreds of communities across the country because quite simply it works. since 2007 the number of chronically homeless in the united states has dropped by half from 180,000 to 90,000, and more importantly it saved money.
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in new york the cost per homeless person dropped from $40,495 to $24,167. that's $16,282 less a year. colorado experienced double the savings from 43,239 down to 11,694. nationwide housing 100,000 chronically homeless americans cut at estimated $1.3 billion a year in costs. >> i think it's hard to appreciate how transformative housing can be. you see it first in the transformation for these individuals with regard to their own ability to care for themselves and basic hygiene, able to better control any substance use they may have. >> i only used drugs because people were using. >> cece had a lot of problems. sleeping under this bridge she was addicted to crack and as a
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transgender woman felt unsafe in city shelters. with the help of cucs she moved into her own apartment last summer. >> my apartment is brand-new, and i love it. it just gives me that i don't have to use anymore. >> with a new job at a call center, she's proud to be one of the estimated 30% of housing first participants who end up returning to the work force. >> i wanted to be a productive person in society again. >> valerie wilkinson also holds down a job. she works part-time as an administrative assistant, but she's studying for computer certification that she hopes will lead to better, full-time work. five years clean and sober, she's reconnected with her family including a daughter she hadn't seen for more than two decades. >> i lived in darkness for so long, for a long time i was out in the streets. you know, it was basically hopelessness. now i'm working in the light. i just have a lot of ambition and a lot to look forward to.
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>> the same principals used by housing first are used in another approach to addressing homelessness called rapid rehousing. it focuses on getting individuals and families facing a more temporary homelessness into permanent housing as quickly as possible, and it's been shown to be cost-effective as well. the state of delaware found the cost of rapid rehousing to be $1701 compared with $6,000 for an emergency shelter at about $15,500 for transitional housing. that's the show for today. i'm ali velshi. thank you for joining us.
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