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. >> one of the first accomplishments of the new 114th congress was the attempted take counsel of the preys' executive action on immigration and by the way let's deport those dreamers, too. that's inside story. >> hello i'm ray suarez. as the president of the united
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states heads to the capitol to address a joint session of congress one of the fights of what to do with the people who come here to live and work in violation of the immigration laws. in the face of inaction on the part of cropping, the president has moved on his own in two big ways. first, delayed deportation of people who were brought to the country as children. next he gave temporary relief to the parents of the so-called dreamers. when the new house of representatives took their seats, one of the first big votes came on immigration telling the president you just can't do that. now they're on a collision course. >> we know that immigration policies are out of date and badly broken. a system that is holding us back instead of strengthening our economy and growing our middle class. right now we have 11.5 million
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undocumented immigrants. 11million men and women who live their lives in the shadows. many of them have been here for years. the he overwhelming majority of these individuals are not looking for any trouble. they're looking out for their families. they're looking out for their neighbors. they're woven in the path of our lives. >> a path of citizenship introduced by senate democrats in 2015. although the senate passed the reform bill, the speaker of the house, john boehner had other ideas: >> controls of both houses is
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now in republican hands. the president has used his executive power to order homeland security to expand dak dakca to to the bottom of the deportation line. but the issue of immigration may be dividing republicans as well. in a retreat last we're. jayjay conjason÷
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of politics. >> i don't think they have the votes to do both. they'll fund dhs and do all the things that the dhs does, and
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then they'll lose the fight with the president. i don't think there will be compromise or middle ground. there will be defeat for the republicans in the next six weeks or so. >> when congress not only repudiated the president's latest action, but went after doka as well. >> it's indicative what the republican party has in mind. not only for the next few years but also looking to 2016 an what their agenda items will be when tackling the executive action of the president and what he'll edge on his legacy. >> maybe this is more fragile
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more temporary and subject to wins. >> i knew it was a temporary program. it is not a law by any means or stretch of the imagination. what is happening congress and the house are getting purely symbol i can. i don't think this will pass the senate if if does pass the senate by whatever stretch of the imagination the president has issued a veto threat. i think that the status is here for the next three years but i'm cautious to see what we'll see to come as the situation develops. >> among the pool of dreamers, people like yourself, there are those who have the conclusion that the president has not helped them as nearly as he ought to have, and not nearly as much as he had the power to do easterly in his presidency. you must have seen that where
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you work with people who try to regularize their status. >> i think what the congressman allured to earlier is on point. what has happened in the past and last year in november with the newest addition of the executive actions to the president, it has essentially fragmented the apostle individuals who can benefit from deportations. only president can have deportations deferred as opposed to my parents who don't have any way. there are two different camps aiming for relief, buts not a comprehensive solution. as we move forward there is a lot of work to be done, and we're just hoping for some sort of bipartisan leadership in this scenario. >> a lot of push back from republicans comes over that great big word comprehensive. it drives them crazy. they would rather do this
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incrementally. but does that work for someone like juan, but his family as well? >> actually i think it could. i think the problem with--i was personally a supporter of comprehensive immigration reform and i worked on that during the bush administration. but the problem with something that comprehensive is that it's big. there is a lot of compromise, reform and change of a lot of things that are broken. i think you can reform a series of compromises that you can push, a bill that does something for high-skilled workers or bills that strengthen enforcement but also combine it for legalization for people like dreamers people like juan. the potential path of passing small immigration measures
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which is what they're contemplating to do. >> do you have to mesh in impact doing one thing at a time and creating all sorts of unforeseen circumstances jeopardies risks for families who are waiting for the whole thing to work together. >> that's certainly a concern. but it's also a concern if you try to do too much, particularly in today's climate, and the president's use of executive authority alienated a lot of people in congress who were supportive of solving the immigration problem. i think running the risk of a compromise is too difficult and will not work. >> now that the democrats are the minority in both houses, do they have much to do besides watch what boehner and his caucus and mcconnell and his
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caucus decide what they're going to do. >> they should be trying to sign up as many people as they can for this program. i was in a meeting with president obama before he took the ex-pitch action where he spoke to a group of us when he who had worked thon issue for a long time. he said when people sign up, it will stay. if it's half million or million people, it's going to be more tenuous. his argument is let's spend the next ten years and sign up as many people as we can and show the country that it will work. if you look at two polls taken the last two days, letting this go through in the cbs news poll 62% said they want to keep this action in place. i think the republicans are in the process of losing the argument with the american people and the president is
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trusting that they'll go through with this. >> this is not just any congress. it's the congress that will do its work in the shadow of a looming presidential election. how they will shape immigration proposal from the white house congress, and the people who want to be the next president. stay with us.
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>> we're back on inside story. i'm ray suarez. the immigration reform debate is not being carried on in a vacuum. the economy continues to recover. the job market continues to make steady gains and many members of the 114th congress look in the mirror look at the president of the united states looking back at hem. >> asthem. >> as the race for the president takes shape marco rubio of florida believes reform should consistent of separate small
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bills. he told charlie rose in an interview: >> former florida governor jeb bush. >> we need to move away immigration as a lever to get votes and move on for sustained growth. >> what could this mean? there are 8 million hispanic voters in the u.s. today. a sharp divide on republican approach on immigration could cost the g.o.p. a large chunk of the vote. simon, juan, and igor are still
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with me. juan what are your plans for the 2016 campaign year defend in part on the state state of play of immigration reform law? >> you know, looking at the panorama it seems that what the announceer said is correct. we're looking at what the solution out of this conundrum is as we a continue for an immigration reform bill, but there have not been significant changes outside of what the president has done. in the meantime we could have passed bills like the dream act and a bunch of other bills that could modify current immigration law and made it easier for a couple of groups within the undocumented population. unfortunately, that has not been the case. my plan is to look forward to a candidate that is not only supportive but the action plan to enact either comprehensive
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bill or a series of bills that would get us to that comprehensive picture whether it's two or three years down the road. >> do you get the impression that a lot of people in the state like florida, which is home to many immigrants of all kinds of status, that a lot of voters make up their mind based on an issue like this or partially on an issue like this? >> i think florida is an interesting example for an issue like this. if you look at how the state is made up. you have north florida and south florida. south florida contains a huge population of the immigration population. and he have representatives like carlos corbelo north florida is where the push will have to happen. florida depends on the cultural industry in terms of the citrus industry in the state.
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and universities in the florida that house a lot of prominent students who want to continue to contribute back to this country who are undocumented like myself so the argument as a state comprehensively, it's definitely a strong one and i would say for everybody in the house and the senate and potential nominees more for the white house is that they need to pay close attention to what is it not only that the immigration community wants but the country as a whole wants to fix an issue like this. >> igor, political risk, do republicans who want to president, and democrats who want to be president see it different ways? not a single latino voted for the g.o.p. they would still win the house and senate. how do you do your political
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calculous on this. >> i think for members of the house, they're more concerned about the primary challenges and there is certainly a large segment that use the idea that you shouldn't reward someone who broke the law by legalizing them that's a fair legitly legitimate position. i think the last presidential election, president obama got 70% roughly whereas president bush if in his last term got 40% of the hispanic vote. i think there is a push for people who look at the people who run through presidential campaigns to equalize that balance. >> if they just coasted on 2016 on immigration assuming they're
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going to get the lyon's share of the latino vote and all those voters to whom immigration is a big issue. >> i think that would be a big mistake. the hispanic vote could swing. president bush did very well in winning the house 2000-2004. the only republican presidential candidates who won over the last two generations have been pro immigration reform candidates. i think democrats have to take some of these emergeing republican candidates at face value and making the case that during obama's time in office things have gone very well for the latino community. unemployment has come down. the number of uninsured has come down. we've done executive action. this is a much more comprehensive approach this democratic party has done to improve the lives of latinos and we'll have to fight like heck to make sure that we retain the margins that we've made in
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previous elections. >> quickly before we go, at the end of the stories do you and your parents get to stay legally in the united states? do you work on that faith? >> i work on the faith that one day they'll be realized. however that comes if it's nor executive actions by this president or the next, i continue to work on the promise of the american dream and insuring that my parents' dreams for me, my brother and themselves, continue as a whole. >> simon igor, great to talk with you all. even though this program is over we want to hear what you think about this day's program. send us your thoughts on twitter. our handle is aj inside story
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