>> hi everyone. this is al jazeera america. i'm john siegenthaler. speeding. new information and new questions from last night's deadly train crash. survivors speak out. >> i'm not sure, you could just feel things hitting you. >> the engineer at the control stays silent. taking a stand. the vatican rks the recognizes the state of palestine.
what it will bring to the holy land. >> i think this is going to be a rebuilding that goes on for a very long time. >> susan sarandon and her mission to help the people of nepal. considering how fast the amtrak train was going. in excess of 100 miles an hour, more than twice the speed limit. it's remarkable that the death toll from last night's derailment is not higher. tonight it stands at seven with hundreds of passengers injured when the train jumped the tracks in philadelphia. already focusing on several factors in the investigation. jonathan betz is still on the scene. jonathan. >> this is still an active scene as investigators try to piece
together how this quiet train ride could suddenly become so chaotic. >> someone told me i had been delirious and that they had carried me off. my shoes not my shoes. somewhere i lost my shoes. and a lady gave me her shoes. >> reporter: passengers were suddenly thrown from their seats. >> tumbling, not sure what's up, what's down. you could just feel things hitting you you were trying to figure out how to get up. >> reporter: amtrak train 188 was traveling tuesday night from washington d.c. to norvetion. new york city. about 30 minutes after pulling out of the station something went horribly wrong. >> basically the train tilted over and rolled. >> reporter: as the train approached a curve all seven cars clgcars including the engine
came off the track. rescuers tried to extract victims from the rail cars. >> they couldn't be revived from their injuries. >> flags letter at half staff. >> we're here to offer our condolence he and our prayers tos to the families who lost loved ones here. >> the mayor just spoke moments ago trying to account for the passengers 233 on board that train, eight are still in critical condition. this line services a third of all amtrak customers, remains closed unclear when it will reopen but investigators expect to be on scene for at least several more days. >> all right jonathan thank you. ntsb investigators are in washington trying to piece
together what went wrong. the train was speeding, what's not clear is why. pls is in washington withlisa stark is in washington with why. lisa. >> they are at the beginning of the investigation. obviously they have some very good information, how fast that train was going but months to do to try ofigure out to put the pieces together and figure out why this train was barreling down the track so quickly. the amtrak train came roaring off the track about 11 minutes after leaving the station heading into the long curve at more than double the allowable 50 mile-an-hour speed that critical information revealed by the on board data recorder, full emergency brake moments before heading into the curve. >> when the engineer-induced brake application the train was
traveling at approximately 106 miles per hour. three seconds later when the data to the recorders terminated, the train speed was 102 miles per hour. >> that was the moment of impact. amtrak answer own data calculated by al jazeera america indicated the train was traveling 106.22 miles an hour as it approached the curve. the big question: is why. >> good engineers know their railroad. they know it quite well. and they always slow down for these curves. so it was a shock. >> the engineer on amtrak train 188 has declined to give a statement to philadelphia state investigators. the ntsb will want to talk to the engineer and the conductors and will pull the crew's training records. at the time also examine the crew's travel in the last 24 hours, did it get enough sleep?
was it on any medication, now part of any investigation the ntsb is gathering cell phone records to see if crew members were being distracted, they are prohibited from using cell phones or electronic devices when the train is underway. this is reminiscent of a commuter rail accident in the bronx in 2013, when the metro engineer dozing off at the helm headed into a 30 minor curve at 82 miles an hour. that train derailed killing four people. there is a sophisticated technology diseend designed to prevent accidents like these positive train control ptc. not in use on train 188. >> ptc knows exactly where the train is. it will slow the train down or stop the train if it's going too fast or in any way taking a
dangerous route. >> reporter: amtrak is installing positive train control on its heavily traveled northeast corridor from washington, d.c. to boston. but it is not in place in the section of track where the accident occurred. >> we are very keen on positive train control. based on what we know right now we feel that had such a system been installed in this section of track this accident would not have occurred. >> federal regulations require positive train control on major passenger and freight rail lines by the end of 2015. but railroads are pushing for a five-year extension. this latest accident may underscore why that system is so critically needed. now, the ntsb today also indicated that it is ready to release some of the rail back to amtrak at the site of this crash so the railroad company can begin making some repairs and john, they will be towing the
locomotive and five of the cars that came off the rails to a secure location. two of those cars probably the most damaged will be on site as of now. >> all right lisa. coming up at the bottom of the hour we'll look at the positive train control system, why it works and why more systems aren't using it. robert buzz poswell is at city college of new york, also the executive director of chicago transit authority the second largest authority in the united states. buzz it's good to have you on the program. >> sad to be on for this reason. >> what strikes you as significant? >> when i first heard about it it never occurred to me that the locomotive engineer would be speeding, going double the peed. i -- the speed i thoughts theyer experienced know the route, and i thought something
in the infrastructure, something to cause cat trough trough trosk. at strosk. catastrophic. >> you feeling it as you are going along. >> the system wasn't installed but wouldn't the conductor notice that the train was moving a lot faster than normal? >> he probably should have. he might have tried to, if they had radio contact with the cab which they should have, they do have radio contact or telephone contact, he may have been collect egging tickets. he might not have known. >> when you get that fast what are you going to feel?
>> trains are so heavy that when you're going that fast you don't really notice it. the only way you notice it -- >> when you go around a curve. >> when you are going around a curve. >> how significant is this curve? >> it is a steep curve. anyone going by train into philadelphia, philadelphia is over on your left and you've got to make a big sweeping curve to go around it, go around the amtrak maintenance yards and one of the big amtrak offices. >> so when you go around that curve you're supposed to go no faster than 50 miles an hour. >> no. you're supposed to slow down, the ntsb says he should have been going 80 before the curve and 50 into the curve. >> people in the northeast who travel these trains have seen the metro north recently have what some would describe as a similar accident where in the bronx you know a train came around the corner and went off
the tracks and people were injured. is there something we're going on here that we're not catching? >> well, i mean they're sensational first of all because they're so rare. it's like an airplane crash when it happens it takes up all the news. and this was a really horrific crash. you just look at the rail cars. the one the metro north wasn't as severe as this and yet it caused some deaths. this really ruined a whole train basically as well as deaths and injuries. >> an engineer took the blame in the last one. if it turns out the engineer is responsible for this one what should transit authorities be trying to do when it comes to hiring these people? >> they try to do it now. they go through training. they go through training on simulators, they go through training before you're in a cab. you don't drive a train on the northeast corridor unless you're an experienced locomotive engineer and then you drive it with an experienced engineer in
the cab for a while until you get oknow every curve or every bridge or something on it. so i think -- and there are laws against taking medicines, there are laws against drugs laws against alcohol. but there's always somebody, one in metro north person has sleep problems. and no one really nood understood that. >> clearly a lot of questions to be answered. >> like the pilot who brought the plane down, same kind of accident. >> robert, thank you. >> thank you. >> the seven people killed in the derailment, paul beban has more. paul. >> john many of us in al jazeera, you and i have ridden this train it is usually very quiet and for many it's a routine commute filled with business people, moms and dads and of course sons and daughters and tonight at least search families are mourning a terrible loss. within minutes of pulling out of
the philadelphia tuesday night amtrak 188 went from a routine night ride to a scene of chaos and confusion. >> when i was on the side someone told me i was delirious and they carried off. >> some stumble ed from the wreckage bloody and battered. 200 and over were injured seven were killed. given the force of the crash it could have been far worse. >> i think we're fortunate there weren't more deaths. >> a sophomore at the u.s. naval academy on his way home to visit his family in rockaway new york. >> he was community minded. >> valedictorian of his class he wanted to be a navy seal.
washington post, the campus was heartbroken, the family is stunned. >> this has hit us in the worst way, without his family and friends. >> well far go has confirmed that abid gilani a senior vice president for its hospitality and finance group is among the dead. jim gains was a video software engineer for associated press. the company says the 49-year-old was known for his dedication and passion. qualities the company says earned him the coveted geek of the month award in 2012. gains was in washington for meetings on tuesday and on his way home to princeton new jersey whether the train jumped the track. rachel jacobs was the kerry of a consulting firm. her company confirmed she was on amtrak 188 heading home to her husband and two-year-old son but
she has not been seen or heard from singles the crash. wednesday on twitter the company said thank you for your prayers for our kerry rachel jacobs, we are still looking for rachel and hope she will be with her family soon. also bob gildersleeve. 13-year-old son mark held up his father's photo asking for help finding him. >> we have no idea where he is, what hospital he is, if he is at a hospital we're trying to get as much information as we can. >> and we are just learning that raimprachel jacobs is among the dead. that forecast was just confirmed by a family spokesperson. and john, at this point all of the remaining injured are expected to survive. >> paul thanks very much. this isn't the first devastating train derailment at this site. on september 6th 1943 labor
day, a packed train known as the congressional limited was running the same route from washington to new york with 541 passengers on board. the axle on a dining car failed and eight cars jumped the tracks pfn 79tracks. 79 killed, 129 others injured. the morning after the disaster in philadelphia. plus recognition from on high. a symbolic step by the vatican on palestinian statehood.
palestinian statehood has gained a new supporter the vatican. the formal recognition was announced today. it is significant. the new step is raising questions about politics and peace. pope francis and vatican diplomats have used the term palestine before but once signed the new treaty would make it formal official. vatican recognizes the state of palestine, as a practical matter, it deals with access to sacred christian sites in palestinian lands. >> the palestinian authority has been very supportive of what the church does there. one of the parts of the arab world where the church is free ooperate and is not impeded by the government. >> but the agreement carries global significance as well.
>> formal recognition which takes place today allows the holy see again to use his moral authority to stake out a position. i think that the fact that the holy see is joining a number of countries, 135 at this time that have recognized the state of palestine, governments in the european union i think it does put pressure on the parties in what is in fact a reality. >> the united states is not one of the countries that rks palestine,rksrecognizespalestine. just before francis is to canon canonize two palestinian nuns. >> both are called miriam.
this is extraordinary. the name mary and miriam is common to jews christians and muslims. may they both become a bridge between us all. >> linda sarsour is president of the association in new york, linda what is your action? >> with good step among the vatican, good news amongst the bad news we hear around the world. >> what is the significance of the word state in the treaty? >> very significant the people sterve the right of their own determination. what's interesting is that the vatican has joined 5.5 billion people which is 80% of the world population which support a palestinian state and the irony, you hear netanyahu say that this will damage the peace process. no one has damaged the peace
process more than israel. >> more than the peace process does this really help to establish a palestinian state? >> it puts pressure on the parties involved including the united states government and israel to understand that they are losing traction and that the world, the majority of the world is looking for a palestinian state, and right now, with the current situation israel has destroyed every opportunity for a two state solution. that is not -- that can't be right now in any peace negotiation so they have to come back to the table and we have to talk. >> so why does it matter that the vatican has done this? if the israelis have resisted this the vatican is not going to change their mind. >> well, it holds allot of moral authority, the vait vatican is the center of the christian world. if it didn't matter then why would israel be so disappointed,
why would they say this is going to impede on the peace process if it was something that didn't really matter? i think it matters. >> does it move anything forward? >> i think we have started to see the elevation of the palestinian into an observer state in the u.n. we have seen a lot more support the recognition by the 135 countries, we are getting into a step by step, another step to see the recognition of palestinian state. >> thank you very much. deputy foreign minister, executive director of stand with us northeast region and israeli advocacy group and welcome it's good to have you on the program. >> good to be back. >> what was your reaction? >> disappointment. not only does it not take us forward, it takes us backwards in taking away from any confidence between israelis and palestinians because it creates
expectations on the palestinian side and the ordinary palestinian will work wake up the day after the declaration and nothing will change. the direction shouldn't be unilateralism but encouraging bilateral negotiations, right now the palestinian leadership does not have any incentive to move in the direction of bilateral negotiations because the message it sends to them is the less they negotiate the more they're on the fence the more they're going to get without negotiations. and israel has the utmost respect for holy see and henceforth the disappointment. >> why did the pope do it? >> i don't know. this is -- this is a tough call. maybe there is some sort of a trend going on. maybe a feeling that if a palestinian state term is declared something will happen, but the reality on the ground is such that there isn't even one palestinian territory. even today hamas was blaming fatah, for undermining them.
when a situation is so complex we need to deal with the issues with the necessary nuances. >> but i think you mentioned to our producer there might be other reasons that the vatican is interested in this area, can you talk about that? >> well, naturally speaking, the catholic church has interests in the holy land in the palestinian territories and in israel. there are always other considerations that come into mind. when it comes to protecting christian interests in the region we've seen what's been happening to christian communities all around and it's clear that there is a desire to maintain the christian communities in those areas. in that respect i want to remind you of something. in 2002, the relationship between israel and the holy see were in full effect. when the church of the nativity was seized for a month between april and may only by these
collections and tithes at the end of the day were the people able to get relief from the church after being held hostage. there are interests and we can't ignore them but the greater interest is that of the people of the region and move on to a comprehensive peace that's built on by bilateral negotiations, that is the only way peace will only come through jamalla and jerusalem. >> we have heard moral authority bantered around today. what do you think of the pope's moral authority after this decision? >> we have the highest regard for holy see and we have the highest regard for the pope and the role he's playing. even today prime minister netanyahu has submitted his guidelines for the new government and promoting the peace process with the palestinians and people of the region. so by no means are we talking about the situation that the israeli people the government, the people are striving for
peace, are striving to reach a settlement with the palestinians but right now the atmosphere in the international community is such that driving the sides apart from each other rather than bringing them together. >> jahar always good to have you on the program. thank you very much. >> a pleasure, thank you. >> the president is hosting a dinner for the gulf cooperation center earlier the president met with the representatives of the six gcc nations tomorrow the summit moves to camp david maryland where talks are expected to focus on regional efforts. >> in gives us an opportunity to focus on the bilateral issues including the crisis in yemen and how we can build on the ceasefire that's been established to restore a process for an inclusive legitimate government inside of yemen. and it will also give us a
chance to discuss some of the broader issues that will be the topic of the gcc-u.s. summit. >> iran and syria are also expected to be on that agenda. still ahead on this broadcast slow-going, why the rollout on the rails are coming so long and the issues of oil trains in america, what's being done about it and why critics say it's simply not enough.
>> hi everyone, this is al jazeera america i'm john siegenthaler. rail safety. new technology that could help prevent train wrecks. why it's facing some serious delays. oil change. new rules for trains carrying crude through cities. why critics say it's still too risky. >> plus speaking out. >> my friend's there she hasn't got water.
she's got 48 kids in her orphanage under a tarp. >> susan sarandon on her new rule helping the needy in nepal. >> federal investigators say the train that crashed last night killing seven people and injuring hundreds more was traveling twice the speed limit just past 9:00 p.m it hit a curve called frankfurther junction. jonathan betz is in philadelphia with more. jonathan. >> trying to zero in why that train was going so fast when it hit that curve. ntsb said the speed was 106 miles per hour, as you mentioned, more than twice the speed limit for that stretch of track. as it approached that curve in philadelphia on its way to new
york city. we did learn the engineer hit the emergency brake but it was simply too little too late to avoid that accident. eight remain in critical condition. survivors say this quiet ride suddenly turned chaotic with people being thrown from their seats, luggage thrown on top of them. investigators say speed certainly did play a role in that crash. >> maximum authorized speed through this curve was 50 miles per hour. when the engineer induced brake application was applied the train was traveling at approximately 106 miles per hour. three seconds later when the data to the recorders terminated, the train speed was 102 miles per hour. i will indicate that these are
preliminary figures of speed. >> reporter: and again the big unanswered question is why. there is hope that the engineer the man behind the controls might be able to provide some answers. he was injured in the crash but did survive. he is in the hospital. but ntsb says they have not interviewed him yet. john. >> jonathan thank you. let me ask you this: what can we expect to hear in the next coming days? >> well, the focus is certainly on what exactly happened and what led to the accident. they are going to focus on the rail cars on the track and to try ogain more clues more evidence. they remain on the track behind me by the way. this is one of the busiest rail corridors in the united states. it services more than a third of amtrak customers remains closed unclear when it will reopen. but investigators expect to be on scene for at least several more days. john. >> jonathan thank you. seeing the destruction but hearing it from survivors here
is our first person report. >> the train went dark and seemed like someone had slammed the brake and everything went shaking. >> the train banked to the left and immediately to the right and everyone on the left flew over to the right side. >> total chaos. just a travesty. trains everywhere and the engine was way off the track. probably four or 500 yards way off the track. and then about six or seven cars just followed it right down the hill. >> people were just kind of panicking and i could smell the smell of smoke. i heard a voice towards the back of the train say get out get out. and i saw the opening and that's when i kind of jumped off the train. >> and i just remember, like, a hit and i just remember that i flew all over the place. >> tumbling not sure what's up what's down. just you can just feel things hitting you.
trying to figure out how to get up. >> i could see the wreckage where it was like in a giant c shape and i was at the bat of the train and the front of the train looked all mangled up just piles of metals. and the middle of the train the cars flipped to the side and i saw people climbing up the windows rescuing themselves. >> could you feel it go like this swing off the tracks and feeling it roll and roll and next thing i knew we were pushing out the emergency exit and there were people outside screaming and bleeding and helped them out and they're okay now. >> the cause of the crash is still unknown. we do know that amtrak and other railroads have struggled implementing safety systems designed to avoid tragedies like this wonder why more trains don't have them. our science and technology editor jacob ward is live in san
francisco. jake. >> the terrible loss of life and injury here, the further tragedy of this is there's this system of a positive train control system. it came into play because of an earlier crash back in 2008. in 2008, a commuter train crashed just outside los angeles killed 24 people. the crash prompted congress to mandate that by the end of 2015 a so-called positive control system must be in place on the 70,000 miles of track that carry passengers or chemicals that are toxic to inhale. think of positive control is a sort of air traffic control system that can take control of trains. positive control would use gps satellites, sensors on the tracks or a centralized system that could slow or stop a train if it senses excessive speed. >> we have called for positive train control for many, many years. it is on our most wanted list.
based on what we know right now we feel that had such a system been sthawld in this installed in such a route this accident wouldn't have happen. >> like to make an adjustment if there's a double parked car or a speed. it can monitor the drivers make sure they're not distracted or incapacitated. if they are the system can automatically slow or stop these trains. however the system is difficult and expensive to implement. railroads have said they're not going to make this year's deadline and in march the senate commerce committee voted to extend that deadline to 2020. at the moment trains operate much like they always have via manual control and a simple system of signals and manual controls. the train that crashed in
pennsylvania is just like the one that crashed in california. speed and control are up to the individual driver. patch work of individual train companies individual systems but the hope of a national system seems to be just continuing to move further and further down the line. >> what does this system cost? >> that is really the stumbling block here. the estimate of positive train control is anywhere from 9.5 to 12.5 billion, that is about $130,000 per mile of track. that is obviously the big stumbling block. most commuter lines operate at a deficit anyway, they do not make any money. why the commerce committee has voted to push this national deadline back to 2020, which at this point is obviously going to be unacceptable to many people. >> so jake how does the u.s. compare to other countries with this kind of system? >> that is the added sort of embarrassment of this. europe alone where the railroads
are obviously woven into life the way they aren't in the united states, in europe alone over the course of the almost entire century we've had some sort of automatic train control system. it's unusual to have trains have this kind of problem because it's such a primary form of transportation and they have some sort ever remote control fail-safe system in place for so long and it makes our very manual system here in the u.s. seem very primitive compared to the rest of the world. >> jake thank you very much. funding has been a battle in congress. democrats and republicans remain divided on the issue. even after last night's crash. libby casey has more. >> voting to slashamtrak's funding, democrats say the $260 billion cut is the exact opposite to what the nation's
rail system needs. >> we do know if we don't invest in the capital infrastructure of the country there will be future accidents. >> the 15% cut will hit capital spending not safety and operations and it still has to get through house and senate. yet democrats fought to stop it. >> i feel very very ironic as we is it here, there wherever the appropriation lords sit they are proposing to cut $290 million from the amtrak capital grants program. i would say that that program is already somewhat insufficient, since amtrak has a $21 billion state of good repair backlog. and you know, it's deteriorating every year. >> reporter: instead of cuts democrats push to nearly double amtrak's $1.4 billion in federal spending. but republicans accuse them of trying to blame tuesday night's
accident on lack of funding. >> do not use this tragedy that way, it was beneath you. >> fighting over amtrak has been going on its entire 44 years fm publiclypublicly funded but run like a private corporation ordered to become self sufficient within five years but face lack of funding. >> the concept that it is always no matter what, more money that is a solution, is not always the case. >> reporter: the rail line has powerful supporters including vice president joe biden who's commuted on amtrak for decades between his delaware home and washington. back in 2009 then president elect barack obama arrived in washington for his inauguration on a vintage rail car.
evoking president lincoln's own trip. it didn't go as planned. gop governors rejected the money which was eventually spent on more basic and less visionary rail improvements. the white house was careful wednesday not to directly link spending problems to the crash but spokesman josh earnest did throw administration support behind a strong remain system. >> the administration strongly believes these splessments the infrastructure makes good sense. there's no reason why infrastructure has to be a partisan issue. >> northeast members members of congress living along its corridor, far more interested in it than others. libby casey washington. >> this photograph from last night helps illustrate one of the risks a crumbled amtrak
train just yards from parked oil train cars. the train company won't say if those cars were empty or full but ali velshi spoke to form he ntsb chairman jim hall. he has been pushing for years to make train cars more safer. >> in 1995 we had on our most wanted list, safer tank cars now. we are in 2015 and we're just finally getting the rules. again we have never in the history, modern history of the united states, invested such a small portion of our gross national product in our own transportation infrastructure as we dar. today. >> so what's the problem? you and can i talk for hours or general infrastructure failing but given that we're producing more oil in america than we've ever produced, the world demand for oil continues to increase, given that we're going to keep on moving oil by rail, who is
fighting the idea that we should do this in a better and more safer way? >> well, the industry is making profit off the move by rail, of oil by rail. it's a booming business for them. and they are going to slow-walk trying to add any investment in terms of the infrastructure, until they're required to, by the federal government. so that's why it's important that these regulations move forward as quickly as possible. >> former ntsb head jim hall. last week, the ntsb offered new safety regulations for oil but mary snow has more. >> has cities asking what if? this latest oil train derainment was in north dakota, in february a train derailed erupting into a fire ball, a similar incident a
month later. fortunately no one was hurt. but it's these kinds of accidents that are prompting environmental activists david mazer to sound the alarm in philadelphia his wakeup call came in 2014, when train cars derailed over the skookle river. no oil was spilled. >> that was a near miss. >> a near miss because of the density populated areas nearby. >> often they are carrying dozens of cars with very volatile crude oil on them putting people in this park and in this community at risk and all up along these train lines. >> mazer's group estimates 700,000 people in philadelphia and surrounding suburbs live within a half a mile of evacuation zone if an oil car catches fire, the city says it
represents an absolute worst case scenario. a number not in dispute a number between 31 and 60 oil trains pass through philadelphia this week. the reason there's been such an increase in oil trains, is because they are heading towards a refinery on the east coast and these refineries have seen an economic revival in the last couple of years. it's as a result of the bakken oil boom, that caused a 70% jump in movement by rail in just the past four years. in cities like philadelphia, the spike in oil by rail, they rely on aging infrastructure like this viaduct built in the late 1920s and pressure has turned up on officials like samantha phillips who heads the office of emergency management. >> i get the question, why aren't you sam phillips not
rerouting the trains? i don't have the authority the mayor doesn't have the authority. these are federally regulated rail lines. >> but long awaited safety measures announced this month by the transportation secretary and his canadian counterpart in philadelphia there are also tensions over sharing information about the city's emergency response. >> they should be getting public input on what the emergency importance plans are and sharing those plans with the public so that they can respond themselves. >> we live in a post-9/11 world. i professionally don't want to release a plan that can further enhance such an attack or put our first responders at risk. >> the risk that seems clear is the nation's energy boom has created a new reality for america's cities asking what if. mary snow, al jazeera. >> you can see more of mary's report on ali velshi's "on
target". tonight. and more on friday. now to boston, the same jury that found dzhokhartsarnaev guilty is deciding his fate. erica pitzi is here. erica. >> the jury has heard from more than 150 witness he over the last ten weeks. today in closing arguments they heard both sides laying it all on the line as one pushed for life and the other for death. with the backdrop of more pictures of the bombing victims in sheer agony including the youngest one eight-year-old martin richard the federal government said this is what terrorism looks like. in their push for death penalty the prosecutor reminded the jury of a note disoarkz dzhokhartsarnaev,
i don't like killing people but in this case, it is allowed because america needs to be punished. the words of a terrorist who is convinced did he the right thing but his defense says, he was young and under the control of his older brother tamerlan. the defense told the jury if not for tamerlan this would not have happened. addings dzhokhartsarnaev is not the worst of the worst and that is what the death penalty is reserved for the worst of worst, life without penalty without possibility of release reflection mercy. seven men five women. >> it only takes one i don't remember to vote forone juror tovote
for life without possibility. >> tsarnaev faces the possibility of execution as to how long the jury will deliberate the guilt phase where both sides agreed that tsarnaev did it, the jury took nearly two days. this time, john, when they're considering life or death we are assuming it's going to take longer. >> coming up on this broadcast. >> i think this is going to be a rebuilding that goes on for a very long time. >> susan sarandon on her connection to nepal.
closely allied with the united states. but fatigue of war together with budget cuts have the u.s. relying more and more with france and where once france sought to maintain its distance from nato. >> serious about intervening abroad that is a very small club. >> coming up in the next hour we'll look at how this growing relationship is playing out in the time of development of challenges on the world stage many challenges. >> significant, antonio, we'll look for that. in nepal there is no sign of a missing u.s. marine helicopter. it disappeared during rescue operations tuesday. the crew of 66 marines and two nepalese soldiers had just dropped off supplies. holding out hope because there is no sign of a crash.
susan sarandon and a nepalese cleric are rallying behind the cause. >> what was your reaction when you heard about the earthquake? >> it was very shocking. obviously everybody talks about there will be some kind of a terrible earthquake in nepal. many of my friends around the world, wanted to send army aircraft to evacuate them. especially my nuns. the nuns, they volunteered to say that we're not going to anywhere. we are going to volunteer over here. to protect the people. protect the -- you know the house and the temple and then the villages. >> now, if we looked at the
immediate needs that we're seeing in nepal, what are those needs that you see? what kind of of aid is needed? >> well, my friend who's there they don't have water water she has 48 kids in an orphanage. they're under a tarp, it rained quite a bit so it's quite cold. >> she's talking about pushna bassnet. sarandon featured her in a documentary called waiting for mamu. >> the children are very frightened so they don't want to go back into the house. they can't go back in. so you know it's hard. you've got 48, some of them babies in the middle of a field so she needs everything. and i think one of the problems has been trying to get her things. >> what would you like the u.s. government to do, or the
international community to do? are they doing enough? >> i think first you have to find a way that -- within nepal if aid is sent, you don't want to repeat some of what happened in other places where everyone's so moved and they send money. but it doesn't get used. so i think you have to figure out first where it's going and if it's getting there. i think people feel really badly for ten minutes and then they forget about it. and i think this is going to be a rebuilding that goes on for a very long time. >> how concerned are you that perhaps somebody might think well that's an earthquake thoroughfare. why should i care over here? >> you know the internet has a lot of bad things going for it. but one of the things that it has done is made people more aware. and people looking for justice and are fighting and people who are fighting a power structure that's been unjust for them are oiferringidentifying with other
countries. when you see people in baltimore and got the messages from other places. >> the galwan was meeting with other people. he offered his prayers over the death of freddy gray. >> i was invited by the priest and also the muslim head also came to see me. and they were like really like very much in helping, in the mode of helping and to build confidence again. >> what are your general thoughts about what's been happening there? >> it's very sad. but again i think that the good news is i mean baltimore is just one incident. and you see we have to look seriously at the militarization of our police. and we have to look at the frustration that peep have that -- people have that have been fighting so long and living in fear because of the color of their skin. it doesn't mean this all police are horrible but there definitely is a systemic racism
>> second in command. the iraqi government says a coalition air strike has killed a top i.s.i.l. leader. burundi coup? president pierre nkurunziza has been released of his duty, the government has been dissolved. >> trying to reloof if president relieve the president of his duty when he is out of the country. the