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may we have a couple of reactions from con tenders from the white house in 2016. we heard from mike huckabee now a con tender for the republican party in 2016. he says this decision regarding gay marriage is an out of control act of unconstitutional judicial tyranny. but martin o'malley who is the former governor of maryland who this case has its roots, but they were married in maryland where gay marriage was and is legal, but lived in ohio where until today it was not, so jim brought that case and here is martin o'malley saying that he is so grateful to his state to bring about the situation that leads to improved human dignity and equality under the law. so reaction is coming in -- it
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is worth noting that both the house and senate are in recess now until july 4th, so it's pretty quiet around here. but we'll hear more from the republicans who have been pretty muted up until now. >> to that point, john i want to bring in a republican who is sitting next to me fred carter. a former republican presidential candidate, and somebody who is happy about this decision today; that the supreme court has now legalized same-sex marriage across the country. >> yes, it's a truly historic day. the case of the century, i term it, has made life better for millions and millions and americans, and millions more around the world. >> does it necessarily fall along party lines, republicans against same-sex marriage versus democrats. it seems to not be so simple these days. >> from where we were in 2004
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when george bush used this as a wedge issue, to where we are now. 80% of the under 30 republicans support it. so it has become a much more bipartisan issue, i'm sure rick santorum will weigh in and attack this decision, but it's history now, and it will make life better for so many people. >> is this an issue you think is evolving within the republican party? >> absolutely. compared to what the dialogue was, and as you mentioned, i was the first openly gay candidate in the history to run for a major party. and i met the other republicans, they were very cordial to me but they used this issue in iowa and other states. and i any that will become less and less of an issue. >> our reporter on capitol hill
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described the republican reaction as being somewhat more muted than we might have expected in recent years. how rapidly have we seen opinion change on this in this country? >> lightning speed. we have seen it lead by younger people. even president obama cited sasha and malia in his decision. >> speaking of which, we're seeing a live picture of the president right now. he appears to maybe be putting the final touches on his comments in his reaction to this. hillary clinton has been accused of flip flopping on gay marriage. she had a different opinion several years ago about whether this right should be granted to gay couples. >> many, many people did. the first president to support gay marriage was gerald ford in 2001. and when you look back at history of the civil rights
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month -- movement the lbgt movement, many republicans have lead the way. as of today now we can check this huge accomplishment off of our list but there are still many things we still need to do. >> when you were a candidate, you said you were very much respected. at that point were you actively fighting for same-sex marriage rights? >> i was the only candidate who supported same-sex marriage rights across the country in either party, because obama as we just heard didn't change his opinion until 2012. he has come around now to be a tremendous supporter, and his administration through the justice department and the attorney general have done wonders for americans. we have seen the repeal of don't
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ask don't tell. i'm speaking at a gay pride event at a naval base on monday in california where now this is the first gay pride event at a naval base in history. so it will be interesting to see who turns out for that. but times are changing. >> thank you. the president has just emerged from his desk. so we are expecting to hear from him any minute. let's go back out to mike viqueira again. mike what can you tell us about what is happening outside of the court? >> it's boisterous it's jubilant. the supporters are out in force. i can't tell you how many times i have heard the singing of the national anthem today, it had to be five or six. people with signs, the supreme court is directly across the street from the u.s. capitol, so
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all of the tourists who happen buy, it's sort of a spontaneous crowd. we are looking at the unique pictures of president obama sitting at the resolute desk the name for the desk inside the oval office writing freehand presumably the remarks he is about to give when he emerges into the rose garden a unique perspective there, the cameras in the rose garden afforded this view. you say he's -- he's standing up now? ah, on the phone. the white house is eager to talk about the kind of week that the president has had. they are really amplifying some of the successes he has had. let's talk about the effort before congress the so-called legacy issue. if you think about it it has been a week of legacy issues for the obama white house. a big success on trade after a
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measure that was absolutely essential to push through some of the major trade deals the president is negotiating now, after being left for dead in congress two weeks ago, now has new life. the president a huge victory yesterday for what has been called -- it's a almost a a -- cliche now, his signature issue, obamacare. and -- >> hey, mike i just wanted to -- mike i just wanted to let you know that the president is still on the phone. he happens to be on the phone with jim uberfell. >> how do you like? >> the supreme court has just legalized gay marriage in all 50 states. it looks like he is about to hang up the phone. maybe we'll continue polishing off those remarks, he is going to make.
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it is so interesting to see the president in light mike. >> you are absolutely right. it is a rare view. they know the picture they are getting. jim has been here similar moan perez, correct me if i'm wrong, he has been here nearly every day. each decision day, jim has been here awaiting the decision we have to assume he's somewhere in the vicinity now, as he conducts this conversation with president obama, who has we can see is sitting in the oval office. but some huge victories on trade, the affordable care act, and today on -- on marriage equality now legal in all 50 states, and let's not forget another legacy-building issue on the table next week in switzerland and john kerry tries to put the finishing touches on a deal with iran.
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some momentous moments here for the president in the fourth quarter of his presidency as he calls it but now preparing to come speak to the nation in the wake of an historic ruling from the supreme court. >> a real winning streak for president obama. he is headed out to charleston this afternoon to of course give the eulogy at reverend pinckney's funeral there. mike let's try to go back to jim and john the plaintiffs in the gay marriage case there. they are in mobile. good morning, can you hear me? your reaction this morning to the ruling that gay marriage is now legal in all 50 states. >> yes, we're very excited over this. we thank god that he gave us this victory today. >> and -- and what will you do today to celebrate? >> we have been invited to go to
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a party. >> you have been invited to a what? >> a party in downtown mobile. >> tell me what it is like to be in a red state, and a state that has tried to ban gay marriage. what has that been like for you as a couple? >> it has been a rough-fought battle. we have been condemned for it. we have faced a lot of ridicule but, you know, we succeeded and we won. >> how much do you think this court decision -- how much of a role will it play in changing attitudes in places that still don't accept, you know gay rights or gay marriage? >> well i think since it's the law of the land now, i think things will change. for the better i think things will look up for everybody. >> what does in mean as far as
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your future? what will you do differently? how will this effect you on a practical level day-to-day? >> i now can go ahead and give john what he needs in the future if something happens to me and we can have a better life together. >> all right. jim and john thank you for joining us with your perspective. again, you are looking live at the white house. we are expecting president obama any moment to give his reaction to this supreme court. let's go back to adam may outside of the high court. he is taking in reaction. greg and michael are the plaintiffs in the kentucky same-sex marriage case. adam? >> yeah stephanie this case is made up of six different cases that came out of the 6th circuit. i had the pleasure of meeting these guys a couple of months
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ago. little did we know we would be standing here outside of the courthouse. what was it like to be inside the room first of all? >> we were hear for the oral arguments in april, and i think we had a much better sense of what to expect. this time around we were i think a little calmer we were a little more confident this time around but there was still a lot of tension. >> you guys got married almost ten years ago, hoping to get that marriage recognized in the state of kentucky and it has been a gruelling battle you have two children which you told me you wanted protections for your family. do you feel different today? >> absolutely. we have been parenting these children together, but only i am on their birth certificate. so now we'll be able to
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petition you know, the court to put both names -- both of the parents as their -- their parents for both kids. >> you guys really quick, when i spoke to you, you interrupted our interview in this really telling moment and put your arms around them and you said these are the best dads in the whole world. the fact that they can get married now, what does that mean to you, isaiah? >> to me it doesn't really change. they have been together my entire life so it is going to be the same -- >> adam we're going to listen into the president right now. >> this nation was founded on a bedrock principle, that we are all created equal. the project of each generation is to bridge the meaning of those founding words with the realities of changing times, a ever-ending quest to ensure
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those words ring true for every single american. progress on this journey often comes in small increments. sometimes two steps forward, one step back, propelled by the persistent effort of dedicated citizens, and then sometimes there are days like this when that slow steady effort is rewarded with justice that arrives like a thunder bolt. this morning the supreme court recognized that the constitution guarantees marriage equality. in this doing so they have reaffirmed that all americans are entitled to the equal
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protection of the law; that all people should be treated equally, regardless of who they are, or who they love. this decision will end the patch work system we currently have it will end the uncertainty hundreds of thousands of same-sex couples face of not knowing whether their marriage legitimate in the eyes of one state, will remain if they decide to move or even visit another. this ruling will strengthen all of our communities, by offering to all loving same-sex couples the dignity of marriage across this great land. in my second inaugural address, i said if we are truly created equal, then surely the love we commit to one another must be equal as well.
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it is gratified to see that principle enshined in to law by this decision. this ruling is a victory for jim ogerfull, and the other plaintiffs in the case it's a victory for gay and lesbian couples who fought so long for their basic civil rights. it's a victory for their children who's families will now be recognized as equal to any other. it's a victory for the allies and friends and supporters who spent years, even decades, working and praying for a change to come. and this ruling is a victory for america. this decision affirms what millions of americans already believe in their hearts when all americans are treated at
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equal, we are all more free. my administration has been guided by that idea. that's why we stopped defending the so-called defense of marriage act, and why we were pleased when the court struck down a provision of that law. that's why we ended don't ask, don't tell. from extending full marital benefits to expanding hospital visitation rights for lbgt patients and their loved ones we have made real progress for advancing equality for lbgt americans that were unmarginable not too long ago. i know change for many of our lbgt brothers and sisters must have seemed so slow for so long but compared to so many other
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issues america's shift has been quick. i know americans of goodwill continue to hold a wide range of views on this issue. opposition in some cases has been based on sincere and deeply held beliefs. all of us who welcome today's news should be mindful of that fact, recognize different viewpoints, revere our deep commitment to religious freedom, but today should also give us hope that on the many issues with which we grapple, often painfully, real change is possible. shifts in hearts and minds is possible, and those who have come so far on their journey to equality has v a responsibility to reach and back help others join them. because for all of our differences, we are one people
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stronger about the than we could ever be alone. that's always been our story. we are big and vast and diverse, a nation of people with different backgrounds and beliefs, different experiences and stories, but bound by our shared ideal that no matter who you are or what you look like how you started off, or how and who you love america is a place where you can write your own destiny. we are a people who believe that every single title is entitled to life and liberty and the pursuit of happiness. there is so much more work to be done to extend the full promise of america to every american but today we can say under no uncertain terms that we have
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made our union a little more perfect. that's the consequence of a decision from the supreme court, but more importantly, it is a consequence of the countless small acts of courage of millions of people across decades who stood up, who came out who talked to parents parents who loved their children no matter what. folks who were willing to endure bullying and taunts and stayed strong, and came to believe in themselves and who they were
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and slowly made an entire country realize that love is love. what an extraordinary achievement, what -- what a vindication of the belief that ordinary people can do extraordinary things. what a reminder of what bobby kennedy once said about how small actions can be like pebbles being thrown into a still lake and ripples of hope cascade outwards. and change the world.
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often anonymous heros often deserve our help. they should be very proud. america should be very proud. thank you. [ applause ] >> president obama and his reaction to the supreme court ruling this morning that made gay marriage legal in all 50 states by doing so the united states becomes the 21st country in the world to legalize same-sex marriage at the federal level. let's go to randall pinkston live at the white house. randall one thing that stuck out to me that the president talked about yesterday and today is this notion of equality. he said when all americans are
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treated as equal, we are all more free. >> absolutely. and the president appeared to be speaking extemporary nowsly all of it coming straight from the heart and head. and also by the legal system on the rapid change on this issue, and recounting how his own administration has moving moving -- moving to end don't ask don't tell. let's listen to president obama today. >> for every single american progress on this journey often comes in small increments. sometimes two steps forward, one step back propelled by the
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persistent effort of dedicated citizen citizens. and then sometimes there are days like this. when that slow steady effort is rewarded with justice -- >> president obama speaking in the rose garden just minutes ago. his comments hailing the supreme court decision making same-sex marriage legal throughout all 50 states. the president saying when all americans are treated as equals we are all fore free. stephanie. >> randall pinkston thank you. let's go back out to mike viqueira who is usually at the white house for us as our senior white house correspondent, at the supreme court of course for this mow men us to decision. a big speech for me although
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sober. >> i think that's accurate. and i was struck by that as well, sort of the deliberate pacing probably another way for the slow speaking. while he had those notes that we did in fact see him preparing, the president speaking from the heart. this is something that obviously he -- interesting that he did use the word evolution as we pointed out the president undergoing a evolution himself as randall pointed out. before reversing course in a slow and disorganized way after his vice president joe biden got way out in front of him, endorsing marriage equality forcing the president's hand.
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obviously a jubilant day here for supporters of same-sex marriage for those in the west wing who obviously argued in favor of striking down these laws, through the solicitor general, and through the supreme court. and the president now on his way in just moments to charleston for the funeral service of the pastor of mother emanual, gunned down horrifically along with eight others of those with him at bible study delivering the eulogy for reverend pinckney. >> mike thank you. we have live pictures coming out of san francisco which is another flash point for the gay rights movement. let's see if we can see that. of course a massive rainbow flag furled out on -- i believe this
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is the city hall in san francisco. we expect a lot more reaction out of that city today as we continue to cover the events out of this mo men us to decision. again, the supreme court has legalized same-sex marriage overturning same-sex marriage bans that states had been enacting. cheers went up when it issued its ruling. all states must allow unions between people of the same sex. justice kennedy writing the historic majority opinion. the united states is now the 21st country in the world to legalize same-sex unions. i want to bring back fred carter our political consultant, gay rights activist a formal republican presidential candidate. we have heard some reaction from the respects, some of which has
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voiced outright disapproval in the case of speaker boehner, and then rather muted reaction. how did g.o.p. candidates deal with this issue going into the 2016 election. >> it's tough, but i think you'll see other issues. i think international foreign affairs are going to stay high. unemployment is still a big issue in this country. so i think they'll try to move away from some of the social issues. i think the supreme court courageously made this decision today. i think it's going to put it behind us and as republicans i think we can move forward. >> what other impact is this going to have on other aspects of the gay rights movement. this is one decision about same-sex marriage. it doesn't go beyond that scope. will it have impact on those
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other issues? >> i think it will because younger people now are coming around in droves to this issue, and to equal rights and i think you are going to start seeing civil rights laws like protections for -- they are still in 39 states people can be fired in this country if you are gay -- >> right, federal law does not protect a discrimination based on sexual orientation. is that the next thing to fall? >> that is certainly one of our big battles state by state and then for the federal government. but this is gay pride weekend coming up here in new york city -- >> it's gay pride month actually -- >> right. and the timing is so superb because to me this sends a message to younger lbgt people all across the world that you are equal to your brother, sister, best friend you have the same right, so that stigma i
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faced for so much of my life is now swept under the carpet and people can move forward. >> frank bruney at the "new york times" says what this decision means is we belong. >> absolutely. you are now equal in the eyes of the supreme court and in the eyes of the law. and what that message says to a young 17 year old struggling -- i heard from a 14 year old in iowa who is out to his class and family, and he is a political activist now, and he is saying what me and orethers are making a difference in his family. >> what has caused the momentum change? >> it's safety in numbers. more and more people are coming out. you have politicians, celebrities, sports figures, making it easier, and then people in families are coming
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out, and making it more comfortable, and getting accepted, not getting thrown out of their houses anymore, out to the street. you are seeing this now -- almost a badge of honor to have a gay son or lessbian daughter or a transgender member of your family. change is coming. i wish it would have happened 65 years earlier, but it will help generations there here on out. >> one of the arguments before the court was whether this was changing the institution of marriage. and it was argued that by doing so, you would somehow jeopardize a family model that has been accepted for melinia. what is your reaction to that? >> that is a bunch of bunk really? that was one of the early arguments that opponents used. they used it in massachusetts,
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for 12 years now. it was one of those scare tactics. now it's this whole religious liberty argument; that people will be forced to do something against their will. they are really grabbing at straws. we have seen organizations that have used this to raise money and to brutalize and terrorize americans are going to have to go off on a few other issues. so i'm very encouraged by this decision right now. >> fred thank you. i want to go back to roxana saberi outside of the stone wall inn. as the hours have gone by we are starting to see more and more people come out. >> absolutely. it started as a trickle, but they have begun pouring in.
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the doors opened just a few moments ago. people are inside having celebratory drinks. this was a popular gay hang out, and riots broke out after police tried to raid the bar. we have been talking with people, one of them is matthew. matthew, you have been working for several years in support of same-sex marriage here in new york and across the country. what does this ruling today mean for you? >> this is just a water-shed moment. my organization was involved with the fight in new york to win marriage equality in 2011. now we expect an even bigger celebration here and all across the country for this historic day, really historic day. >> and since same-sex marriage has been legal sized since 2011 what has happened to same-sex
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couples who went to other states where their marriages were not recognized? >> married couples in new york would travel to other states where it wasn't recognized and god forbid they ended up in the hospital. the hospital could tell the spouse that they couldn't come and visit their spouse. so having this legal across the country is so important not just for new york couples, but for people all across the country, really. >> there is still opposition to same-sex marriage in society, even though the majority of american's polls actually support it what does the gay community need to do? >> we're going to continue to do what we have always been doing, which is coming out of the closet being who we are, and -- and really just changing hearts and minds. we have seen a steady incurred in progress across the country, a sea change in the culture of the united states to really
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embrace lgbt people. right now we still have work to do on that front, but i think we're definitely making significant progress, and today is one of those milestones that will make it even better. >> when you talk about the sea change in public opinion, what has lead to that? >> a lot of things. you can point to celebrities who are out, and people who are -- and gay characters on tv but it is really about people coming out to their parents and coworkers, people just being who they are, and expressing who they love sharing that with people, because nine times out of ten people who support marriage equality are people who know somebody have a son, a coworker, a neighbor who is gay, and as a result our community is more embraced. >> thanks for joining us matthew, and we'll see what happens throughout the day, because there will be big celebrations here continuing
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throughout the day stephanie, and a rally at 6:00 pm eastern time. we'll be here all day bringing you the news. >> thank you roxana. i want to no back to adam may at the supreme court. hey, adam i'm just curious, how did all of the people out there find out about the decision? >> everybody has their smartphones out, and as soon as it hit twitter, everybody just started cheering and there was that crowd mentality where people thought this must be a good thing. you have the runners from various networks and they come out with the official news. among the people in the crowd, jamie and crista they have been to the white house. you have live in michigan your pediatrician refused to see you because of her religious beliefs. tell me more about that story, and how you think marriage will help you out in the long run as
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you raise your beautiful baby here. >> yeah, well we had to interview pediatricians and at the end of the interview with her, she said book the appoint as soon as she is born we did, and we were informed that she had prayed on it and she couldn't take her as a patient. it was heart breaking but we have really managed to gain awareness on that issue. >> marriage rights will not guarantee that a pediatrician cannot discriminate against you, right? >> it won't guarantee it but i think it will raise the issue, and a lot more of our stories will start happening. for instance on monday we would have to tell our employers, we're legally married, and they
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can fire us for that. >> right. thank you guys so much for sharing your story, and i can't believe the baby slept through the entire excitement out here. [ laughter ] >> adam thank you. i want to go out to mike viqueira who is with a key player in all of this she represented 16 of the gay couples in this case. mike? >> that's right. i'm here with mary banato and there is a group of individuals singing the national anthem right in front of us. mary giving them the thumbs up. a momentous moment. >> this is a moment of joy for families across this country, that we don't tolerate laws in this nation that disadvantage people because of who they are.
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>> on the legal question were you surprise in any way on the way that justice kennedy phrased it, and the major came to your side? >> no, i have to say, i didn't count on anything. but listening to the decision it totally made sense to me because we do have a fundamental right to marry the person of krour your choice. and that's what he said. >> when you argued before the supreme court -- and my understanding is you argued the doma case. >> i did not. >> oh, i'm sorry. when you argued this case before the supreme court. to read the tea leaves judging by how the justices are reacting to your argument when you are laying your case and they are sharply questioning you. did you have any indication this would come down the way it did. >> i tried not to read too much
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into it because it's their job to explore the boundary of the theories. but we had the briefs the argument, and the 14th amendment. which guarantee equal protection to all of us and that's what the court vindicated today. this is a landmark victory without a doubt, but i hope we also rededicate ourselves to making sure that other people who are singled out for who they are, and subjected to unspeakable acts of violence as people are mourning right now in charleston, that we make this promise secure for everyone person in this country. >> mary what is next legally for the gay rights movement. >> i hope implementation will be swift and smooth and that people will be free to marry tomorrow in most states and soon
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elsewhere, there are so many people who have been waiting decades for this day to come and i want to make sure they have this joy and security that comes with marriage. and there are issues all through the life cycle, including that people can marry in some states and lose their jobs the same day, and that's something we need to address. >> i have to ask you what your reaction was as you were sitting in the court and you realized this had gone your way. >> i can't tell you the range of emotions i had. i was happy, but i was also listening to the disscents, because it's all so point, and understand their point of view too. that's how we have gotten this far is by this dialogue and discovering shared values and things that we have in common. so i expect it will continue. >> mary thank you very much.
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>> thank you. >> stephanie, that's it you heard from the individual arguing before the supreme court. >> i imagine she is viewed as a hero by many of the folks gathered there today. as you were interviewing her, we heard the tenor of the crowd rise. what is going on around you? >> as i said there's a group of individuals, all of them men, at this moment five feet from us as we conducteded the interview, singing the national anthem and patriotic songs. and now they are cheering for mary as she walks away from our interview location. so a remarkable jubilant location for the supporters of what the supreme court has ruled today. >> okay. we are continuing to cover reaction to this momental
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ruling. police in france have made one arrest in the attack in the country's south. we're going to lisa fletcher with that. >> good morning, stephanie, a businessman is dead in france after he was beheaded at an american-operated gas plant. it happened in the south of france. about a dozen people were also injured after a car rammed a gate causing an explosion. authorities say they have one suspect in custody. the french president has left a summit in brussels to head an emergency meeting of his defense council. in kuwait isil fighters are claiming responsibility for a suicide bomb blast at a mosque. at least eight people were killed in kuwait's capitol. a group with links to isil has claimed responsibility for similar attacks in saudi arabia and yemen. the mosque would have been especially crowded today, because muslims are currently
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observing the fasting month of ramadan. and at least 27 people are dead in tunisia after at least one gunman opened fire at a beach resort. foreigners are among the dead. police shot and killed one of the alleged gunmen and a search for a second gunmen is currently underway. secretary of state john kerry heads to vienna today for the latest round of iran nuclear talks with a self imposed june 30th deadline looms. the ayatollah is rejecting a long-term freeze on nuclear research. he is also against international inspections on military sites. and the grim task is set to begin in alaska to recover the bodies of eight passengers who were killed in a plane crash.
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it is not clear what went wrong with the plane. stephanie back to you. lisa thank you. there is another big story playing out today. a memorial service getting underway at this hour in charleston south carolina. this is a live look at the college of charleston, and we will soon have a picture of air force one as well. the president, who you just heard speak regarding the same-sex marriage ruling. there is air force one it is going to be heading to charleston soon, because the president will be giving the eulogy at the funeral of the pastor of emanual ame church. let's go to del walters in charl charlcharl charl -- charleston. what is going on there today? >> there is a mood of celebration on this funeral day, and part of it has to do with the topic that you have been talking about all morning, i was thinking about it as i was
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listening to your coverage. think about it 1955, emmett till lynched for whistling at a white woman. then 1967 the case of loving have -- v north carolina. and then the ruling today, and also the flag controversy here in south carolina, as one person told me today, it seemed as if there was an earthquake in the civil rights arena, reverend jesse jackson talking about not since the summer of 1968 has so much changed. it's a sweltering summer men. i'm joined by steve and son you, relatives of the woman we came to know as grandma ethyl. she was laid to rest yesterday.
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sonya, your thoughts on this day? >> well, my heart is very happy today. and especially when i'm here our thoughts goes out everyone to affected by this. it's a solemn day today in the south, and i'm here in front of the church and seeing all of the love that's pouring out to the community, it's -- it's touching. it really is to see how people did pool together even though the young man that did this horrifying crime stated he wanted to cause a war, but it looks like he has caused nothing but a love war. and i thank god for this. because there are all walks here to share support for the families and our loved ones that are no long we are us. >> in 1968 they took to the streets and cities burned across
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america. what is it about this time in history that instead of there being anger there is action. what caused so much forgiveness so quickly? >> i think dr. king lead a movement that -- he lead it all in love and as we know that dr. martin luther king also took his moment from gandhi that operated in love. so all of this is what we're all about is love. and we will overcome this through love. and of course me being a minister i always say love does cover a multitude of sins and hate has to end. and that's where we're at right now, is through love. >> stephen you weren't born when king was assassinated but you were on the streets of baltimore, you took people there. are we seeing a new civil
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right's movement being born out of what happened in this church behind us? >> there is something to be said about the energy you feel on streets, there's something to be said about the young people i see every day that sound like me look like me that want to hear the same things that i hear and there is a new movement that is happening. and it looks like young people locking arms with people that don't look like them or sound like them that don't have the same sexual orientation with them. and this is all becoming part of this love movement. and i'm just overjoyed with the emotions that fill me today as we lay our family members to rest and as we lay our friends to rest and everyone is affected by this. >> what do you say to those that say this is a situation where there should be an eye for an eye. >> i don't believe that's
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something we need to do. and our younger generation has lead this movement in such a way that has been poiseful resilient, and allowed us to really really capitalize on forgiveness and love. >> sonia, i have noticed you have been battling back the tears the entire time. describe the emotion of this day. >> my heart is heavy. i look at the loved ones that went before -- and we had people that has gone before like martin luther king and emmett till and these were sacrifices that they made. and unfortunately in this day, there will be people that have to sacrifice theirlives. and without sacrifice there is not a movement and change and i believe they were considered to be martyrs. they will always be remembered as a movement that will change this nation especially in the south, and i'm hoping that people will get on this movement
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and understand these people didn't die for -- just to be dying, they died for a cause, and i think god for thank. >> even though there is nothing on the face of this planet that will bring your relatives back are you satisfied with what you are seeing in the wake of their deaths? >> yes, there's peace. i mean i could see that it could be something else -- but people are moving in peace, and we just at one of the memorials, and we couldn't get in and the museums are now packed and people are still here they are all in front of the church. they are not leaving. they could go home and do other things, but they chose to be here. so that says big volumes, people are here to stay and they are here through love. >> thanks for being with us today. >> thank you god bless. >> stephanie as you listen to the narrative that is emerging here in south carolina it is
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that there is not one single thread that is disparate, ferguson is connected to south carolina, what happened today to the supreme court is connected to the flag coming down what we see with the eric garner case in new york is connected to the flag coming down in the supreme court. they describe it the same way as that summer in 1968 there was so much change because people were talking to one another. everybody is talking about everything, not just one thing. >> yeah that's profound what you are saying del, because you who covered the civil rights movement which began in this african american community, and in some ways what happened in charleston is part of the arc of that, what is happening with the gay rights movement is part of the arc of that. del walters, thank you. again, the headline this morning an historic ruling the supreme court has declared same-sex marriage legal in the united states. the ruling came down 5-4 that
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all states must allow unions between gay and lesbian couples, justice kennedy writing the majority opinion. the united states now becomes the 21st country in the world to legalize same-sex unions. president obama had this to say a short time ago. >> we are a people who believe that every single child is entitled to life and liberty and the pursuit of happiness. there's so much more work to be done to extend the right to every american but today we can say, in no uncertain terms that we have made our union a little more perfect. >> we're joined now which a civil rights attorney. what does this ruling mean in a broader constitutional sense?
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>> well in a broader sense there is a classic clash between the people who believe the constitution is fixed as it was written, and those who see it as a living breathing, evolving document. justice kennedy's opinion was clearly of evolving standards of decency and equality. and the four dissenting justices, say it's nowhere to be found in the constitution itself. >> is that a tension we have generally seen in this court? a literal interpretation of the text of the 14th amendment in this case versus cultural context. >> absolutely. do you read the constitution limited to the words in the document itself, or do the concepts of equality and due process, refer to evolving standards as our society and times change? >> does this invalidate the so-called religious freedom
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bills that have become popular in certain states which protect businesses from selling services to gay couples? >> interestly the opinion itself goes out of its way to seminsteres who have a first amendment freedom will not be compelled to perform same-sex marriages. >> so it maintained those protects. >> those. but what happens to a florist who doesn't want to provide flowers to a gay wedding? or a person who owns a hotel who doesn't want to provide their venue. that's the next level of litigation i think we're going to see. >> thank you for your incites. all right. i want to go back to adam may. >> hi stephanie. we're joined by the first openly
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gay member of congress from california. what do you think of what has happened today? >> i think it has been wonderful. the supreme court has thrown out a huge wedding bowuquetbouquet. but once they post pictures of weddings on facebook, the very next day they will face employment and even housing discrimination. so we need to pass the comprehensive lbgt civil rights bill, which will protect lbgt people from housing and workplace discrimination. it is very much needed because on the one hand people are going to get married, and on the very next day they will face being discriminated against in a lot of places in this country. >> years ago, not even that long
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ago, coming out as a gay politician would be political suicide. what has it been like for you? >> riverside was a place that voted substantially for marriage equality, and it also voted for barack obama. that is a contradiction. i couldn't imagine a time as a teenager when i could have come out in high school but three years prior to my becoming a congressman, students wanted to start a straight alliance. i never thought i would be driving a van of lbgt and straight teenagers to gay day at disneyland. >> congressman thank you for joining us. >> thank you. >> adam thank you. i want to go back now to cindy and maureen, they very plaintiffs in a same-sex new jersey case. i wanted to know did you get to
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hear the president speak earlier? >> yes. >> what were your reactions to his words? >> i -- i was very proud that the president of the united states stood and spoke about the fact that we are a little bit of a better nation because of today, but i also know that this is a very sad time for so many people because of the burial and the ceremony for the reverend who passed away from that horrible terrible shooting, and it just speaks to the fact that what he talked about that sometimes we take two steps forward and one step back hearts and minds still need to be changed in this country about all equality for all people. it's bittersweet to see the sadness in his eyes but also how proud he was of the country and the people who have fought for this for generations and all of the people who have fought for equality for everyone
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through generations should be proud when any equality is seen for people. >> it is interesting to hear outside the supreme court people singing patriotic songs. >> uh-huh. >> this is a new american institution in some ways the supreme court has created today. >> yes, and how many years with going to our children's school events did we pledge allegiance to our flag and the words with liberty and justice for all always caught a little bit in the back of our throat knowing that that wasn't the case for us and maybe for so many other people. >> maureen and cindy thank you so much for your incites today. >> thank you. >> the supreme court in a 5-4 ruling has legalized same-sex marriage nationwide. the decision bringing cheers from these plaintiffs in michigan, and we understand that kentucky and arkansas are already issues marriage licenses.
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