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♪ >> and good afternoon, everyone, you're looking at pope francis in harlem neighborhood in manhattan where he's greeting school children from four different catholic schools that have been gathered between second and third. the pope is about to go in to the school there. our lady queen of angels. a number of officials from the cat va vatican and catholic organization, this one event is perhaps the most significant on the pope's schedule simply because it gets to the pope's mission of serving the immigra immigrant, indigent, and the
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poor. our own roxana saberi is there in the throngs of crowds. the pope, tell us about the scene that you're seeing right now. >> i'm sorry, david, i couldn't hear your question. >> i was just asking for the scene. you can see the shaking hands with 250 kids, blessing them, putting his hand on them, kids taking selfies. these are kids at four different catholic schools, two in the bronx, two in harlem, and such a huge deal for them, and in a minute we're going to see the pope go into one of the schools. give us a sense of what you saw as we look over the pictures as the pope's motorcade came down. >> well, the pope drove by just a couple of minutes ago, and the crowd here, thousands of people lined up and down the streets, cher cheering wildly.
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there is a lot of security, as you can imagine. he turned the corner and went up one block north where he's meeting the students from our lady queen of angels school. and from there he'll probably have one of his most unscripted moments in his whirlwind tour in this city. >> in addition to our lady queen of angels, there is st. ann's, and there are some 60 catholic parochial schools have closed, they're facing somewhat of a crisis, and the pope will be trying to turn thing things around. the catholic schools are sharing resources in terms of resource and finances and management in
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order for these schools to survive. first there is the effort to save catholic school education, and also the pope's mission of serve immigrant, marginalized and the poor, pointing out 70% of the kids enrolled are hispanic, 40% qualify for ferrell free and reduced lunch programs. we are us in studio reverend mike walrond. the senior pastor. tell us what you think about the pope's visit? >> i think it's extremely important, in many ways the paradox that harlem represents. we have this renaissance why business is coming in, but at
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the same time there is an under current of poverty that no one talks about. the pope will bring up that issue. when people talk about the jen treefication of harlem. people apples are have a hard time making it. the average rent is $2,400 a month. but the immediate on median income is $24,000 a year. >> and in the background of the pope there are housing projects literally behind him and there is a shuttered catholic church that has been empty for quite some time. as far as the symbolism of education, catholic education and where this fits in line with what the pope is trying to do on this particular visit, speak to that issue. >> as pastor mike was just saying, catholic education is part and parcel of what's going on in harlem. part and parcel of the purpose
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of this pope's visit. what we're seeing here as we watch these pictures of pope francis, we just see the joy on his face. >> i have to ask you, taking selfies, anything in the catholic doctrine against taking pictures? >> there is nothing against taking selfies. it was never under the lexicon. under pope benedict, who was famously reserved and shy and more about the ceremonial of things. but pope francis is just diving in to the crowds, like a politician working the roadblock. he's working with the people of day-to-day, he spoke with the united nations, the security council, he was happy there, glad to be there. but he's just overjoyed to be here in harlem with these school kids. >> let's listen in and see if we
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can hear any of the exchanges between the pope and the kids. let's listen in. [ children laughing ] [ cheering ] >> amazing, the student from our lady queen of angels, st. annes, and 250 kids outside of the schools, and there will be another group inside. the school itself our lady queen of angels has been around for 120 years. i had an opportunity to talk with the principal earlier this week. she said that they only found out in the last three weeks that they would be playing host to this event only because they
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would be available, whereas other catholic schools in the area would have logistical reasons why they couldn't. they would have the process of determining which classroom the pope would be going into. he'll be entering a classroom filled with third and fourth graders who have been working on environmental projects. and in fact, the kids are waving, the yellow shirts representing the different schools. any symbolism with the color yellow. >> yellow is one of the colors of the vatican. on the set that we have here on the studio of al jazeera, we have white and yellow, the colors of the vatican flag. and it's representative from the different schools perhaps the own schools colors and t-shirts. they're taking advantage of the education they receive from their catholic schools, an education which some families here in new york and elsewhere in the country are finding too expensive, or finding not to be
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the sort of thing that they're not looking for for their kids. the pope's visit in this school underscores his view 9 importance of catholic education. >> reverend, we had an opportunity to speak with the beauty salon that sits right across the street. the owner repainted the walls. they would have family members sleeping over so they would have an opportunity to greet the pope. that kind of spirit, that kind of hopefulness in harlem, how important is it? >> there is an under current of poverty that often goes overlooked. to have a figure like the pope in harlem, it says something. we're in a time where people not just in harlem, are groaning for authenticity and groaning for transcendent issues. when it comes to poverty,
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environmental justice, this is front and center for this pope. that's important. my only hope is that these conversations continue as the pope leaves. >> the pope will be greeted by some of the honor students in the hallway, i think that's the classroom that he'll be walking in to. some of the kids, there are 24 kids selected to be honor students, and there's the classroom of third and fourth graders. they've been working on environmental projects, and there are pictures. some of the kids who were selected to meet the pope, the principal said it's because they wear their heart on their sleeve. they have that spirit and enthusiasm that is so important for the catholic church. there is the pope walking in to the classroom. let's listen in as the children sing the welcoming song. [ children singing ]
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[ children singing ] >> he's blessing several of the teachers who represent the school. that, of course, necessarily in this classroom, so the principle invited several of the teachers to come by. [ children singing ] >> there is something very appropriate about the song that the school kids are singing. "it's make me a channel of your feet." it was written by st. francis assisi.
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great patron of the poor, who gave the pope the idea for his name. the so far the only pope franc francis. >> it's interesting that he's there, encouraging the kids. a week ago, the teachers said that he kids didn't have the song down. they were practicing and there were struggles. she said by the time the pope is here, we'll get it. >> me definitely have got it. >> 22% african-americans, 70% hispanic at this particular school. for children who are the downtrodden in this neighborhood, how important is it a religious option in terms of their education. >> i think its powerful. when you have children who have the ability to access education, education will propel them towards opportunities. that's a powerful moment.
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[ reciting hail mary ] >> they'll finish their hail mary, and the teacher is explaining what the kids have been solv involved in. some have been collecting paja pajamas for babies. some serving the elderly. some kids have been involved in planting a garden at home and at church. some of the kids have indicated they would like to ask the pope a couple of questions. i don't know if we're going to see that or not, but some of the questions were hilarious as the
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principal explains in spanish. one was why did he give his motorcycle to charity. another four grader said, when he steps in new york city, how does he feel? is he excited? another student says, does the pope watch any modern movies? let's listen to the exchanges here. [ child speaking with the pope ]
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[ child speaking spanish ] >> the concern are showing the pope their models. i one is of a church. i didn't pick up what the second one was. [ speaking in spanish ]
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>> the principal of our lady queen of angels just introduced the principle of st. annes catholic school, which i believe is also in harlem. reverend, how difficult is life for kids in harlem? >> well, i think that in new york city in general, i remember doing the campaign, you heard some startling numbers. 46% of new york is at or below poverty. we can see the concentrated spaces in new york where poverty dwells. in so many ways this--watching this is very moving because here's a man who has been at the white house, and d.c. which in many ways is the seat of power in this country. he has come to the united nations, new york, he can see the financial and economic power in this country, but he seems more comfortable with the children. there is a jovialness about him
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and freeness that he exhibits. ality the--at the end of the d day{^l" ^}, yes, here is a pope who follows jesus in yes, let the little children come unto me. [ indiscernible conversation ] >> the school was founded 120 years ago. let's listen in.
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pictures of the holy communion and the eucharist. >> these are the central symbols of the catholic ritual of mass, of the bread, the wine. that of course, is something that is delightful to the pope. so have the eucharist here to reflect the students and talks about how the students have been learning catholic theology in the schools. these potentially endangered catholic schools. the woman, the principle of our lady queen of angels, there was a possibility that the school would close in 2000 when the
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adjoining parish church shut down. she fought successfully to keep the school open. >> i think we can pick up the microphone here. >> holy father, our project this year it shows the little things that we're grateful for throughout the year. >> holy father, we made this project to share with you.
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>> they would like to show you their class work. >> the pope taking the little boy by the hand and walking with him to the project on the wall. >> we see so up dehumanizing efforts regarding the immigrants in this country. and we have beautiful people in this speak about america. for them to be able to speak to the pope in their language, that's an affirmation for them. and it's important to see such a figure who affirms them and the not political gains manship, so to speak.
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>> the holy father does not seem to be familiar with touch screen technology. >> he's one of the most followed on twitter, i'm not sure that he does that himself. but he uses many of the tools. there is a twitter handles in six or seven languages including latin for all the latin speakers out there. you can see the joy on his face. the joy of seeing these children have made something. they created something of his own and the pride they must get from that. >> no question. >> he lends himself to them in many ways, the accessibility of the pope has to be overwhelming for those in that room. >> it's overwhelming as well. when he steps out he's going to be leading with 12 honor students in the hallway between
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this classroom and right now the pope is looking at some of the materials representative that the schools put out, pamlets. >> you can imagine how excited their parents were when they found out that their children were going to have the opportunity to meet the pope. that only happened in the last couple of weeks. the principal, joann walsh, explained that she gathered the students around, the kids in the classroom and the 12 in the
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hallway, their parents, when they were told that their children would get a chance to meet pope francis, they would weep openly and were so over joyed. they're first-generation immigrants. they live day-to-day, they're on the federal food program. the sense of pride to have their child meet the pope. >> the notion that harlem is a place that is very hard for these families. families that are struggling to get by. pope francis has talked from the beginning about the need what he says for the church to go out to the margins. imagine the way that this is unfolding. he was with the president. he was with congress. this morning he was with the
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u.n. but each of the afternoon he spent with homeless people having lunch. today with kids, and then he'll greet the peopleles homeless as well, focusing on those in poverty, reminding us that jeez came in to the world as an immigrant. as someone who was poor. pope francis in his faith and commitment to those who are marginalized, to those who are on the front tears, tremendously show him what they are about. >> i think many people in the community are used to seeing elected officials during election time. i think this is no different. but what i do value is that in some ways when you think about it, many of the elected have to
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come into the classroom with the children to see the pope. he's affirming them. and them coming there speaks volumes about the pope, so to speak. as i saw the screen earlier, there are many elected in the hallway. >> the pope will meet 12 honor student who were chosen because, according to the principal, they wear their heart on their sleeves. these students will get an opportunity to meet the pope, and some of them came up with the most adorable questions, like what movies does he like, and why did he give away his motorcycle, what kind of impact does this have? >> it's a remarkable moment and a transformative moment for these young people. one of the things that was endearing, when we were given the run down by the secret
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service, the pope will walk by a student, and he'll stop and talk with them. that is the sort of man that this pope is. some describe him as the world's parish priest. but for these young people it seems that when he has you in his gaze, that's a moment you'll never forget. a moment when he looks into their hearts and affirms them as human beings who are just as important as the elected officials he just met with, or just as important as the world leaders that he saw this morning. >> for people who are not familiar with new york politics, that is bill debelsi mayor bill de blasio.
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there are lots of issues that flow right into this. >> i'm still amazed at the moment's history where they say sometimes you deal in real politics there is a reluctance about people being honest and real about the issues that they play, and the mayor shared about the reality of his son, and to deny that would be to deny the reality that his son would face in this city. but in the issues that take place in new york city politics, in harlem, and within african-american communities, this notion of affirmty, inherent dignity of every human being, and you minimize the hierarchy of certain persons because of rank, title or social economic status, that has defined our country for so long. there is a moment of pause as we look at the humanity of every human being. to disengage from other persons that we do so well.
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>> that's underscored with the picture that we're seeing right now. this is the gymnasium at the our lady queen of angels schools. this is the charity that involves immigrants, refugees, day laborers from local unions. these workers, you can see some with football players, but they are contracted by catholic charities to do certain work around the community, whether it's help to go rebuild things or cleaning up parks or helping the needy. as we wait for the pope, at the moment he's meeting with the honor students not available to cameras, but in the few minutes that we have before he steps into the gymnasium. let's go back outside of the school with the crowds who are trying to take in his visit. roxanne? >> thousands of people have been
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gathered here loudly. you can see the route he took. he went up the street. up to the next block so he could go to the school where he is now. you'll see lots of nypd, motorcycles are here as part of the heightened security here. some people came out here even last night and camped out in hopes of seeing the pope. when he came, he waved and they went while. hundreds are still here hoping to see the pope on his way back when he leaves the school. one of them is milli jiménez. why was it important for you to be here today? >> to come out and see the pope. so he can see how the people a are. he needs to connect with everybody. he brings us a lot of hope and our faith. >> how did he change your faith for you?
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>> he gives me hope never to think that there is never hope. there is hope, there is light ahead and we can hope for the best. >> you've lived here since 1967. you're a immigrant yourself from puerto rico, how important is it to you that he's visiting your neighborhood. >> it's important that he's visit organize neighborhood so he can see how people live. not just the spanish people, but all kinds of enem of people.. there are all kinds of people working hard, bringing up their families and educating their families as well. >> his message about embracing refugees and immigrants, how does that resonate with you? >> i think this is a country of immigrants, and it is important
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for people to understand how we are. not just to treat us like outsiders. we're immigrants, and we an all live together as a community, as a whole. >> milli jiménez, thank you for joining us. we'll see if we can catch another glimpse of the pope on his way. >> i hope so. >> there are a lot of people very excited. they believe that they, that this pope captures a lot of who they are and understands people like them. >> roxana, thank you, the pope was kicking a soccer ball that someone gave them. that's a gift that they sent out to the pope as part of a welcoming gift. and you can see many members of the catholic charities taking pictures and video. how significant are catholic charities in the over all catholic communities. >> it's very significant, it
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includes homeless services, food, shelter, clothing. it turns out that the boys who are using the ball, they'r they have formed a soccer league. it really is a tremendous presence throughout the catholic communities and in an institutional way shows the church's outreach to those on the margin. >> part of the outreach, helping people with construction, doing projects. that's a contrition ha construction hat and some shoes. can you translate this realtime in spanish? >> let me see if i can hear it. [ speaking spanish ] >> i'm afraid i didn't pick that up 37 but speaking of day laborers, they're among the people who constructed the sha chair, the simple chair at the pope's request that he'll sit in at mass.
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>> even the white linens were woven together by some of the catholic children participants spouses welcoming him to this particular school and this gymnasium. this is not happening in lower manhattan, not in midtown. this is in harlem. >> i was taken by the words of milli, who was on camera earlier. she said that he came to see how they are. and i am reminded of those words in hebrew where god tells moses, he says, i've seen the misery of my people, i've heard their cry. god acts. it's as if the pope has come to them in this moment. >> let's listen. >> more than a thousand people have welcomed me in new york.
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on behalf of the poor, this is our gives. thank you. >> hi. [ speaking spanish ] >> the daughter who is four years old, and was given a book of her favorite movie. all welcoming gifts. the gifts that given by these students.
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>> in this city sometimes they are overlooked, and rendered irrelevant. what milli said was that he was here not just for the statued people but for everyone. this has to be a group who feel overlooked because of poverty. >> a shot in the arm for the neighborhoods where they do feel overlooked, and where the politicians only come by around election time, and the rest of the year they may not fee may feel neglecte neglected. >> look at immigrants at a time where this is a divisive issue in our country. to be reminded that we're a country of immigrants, and sometimes we forget. i tell people that we have
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selected cultural amnesia in this country. we forget who we are. >> what is it about the pope's background that makes it so easy to relate? we know because he's an immigrant. he's the first from latin america to become pope. but is there something about his background? >> partly because this pope has never allowed himself to be pulled in by the power structures of the catholic church. when he was in buenos aires, he stayed in buenos aires. unlike his predecessors, he never worked in rome. he took a small argument by the cathedral. he would take the subway. and he would visit the poorest slums in argentina. this is someone who has always taken the cry of the poor seriously. we see that reflected in the way that he's acting now. the question, how long will this focus on the poor and on the immigrant communities will last after the leaves?
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how has he changed hearts and lives over the longer term to create the social justice that he has been talking about. >> the limited spanish that i have there was reference to dignity. >> yes, i think dignity goes hand in hand when one--i don't know what it is about the public does course in a country that specialize in dehumanization and limiting the dignity of human beings. we're so status driven at times. to see a figure of this stature in harlem, it reminds us that we ought not overlook those who are struggling or who are on the under side of our communities. this is a very affirming momen moment for everyone in this room. >> you were blessed by my
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father. take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. for i was hungry, and you gave me to eat. [ speaking spanish ] >> i was thirsty, and you gave me to drink. >> for i was a stranger, and you welcomed me. >> this is all reading of scripture from some of the volunteers with catholic charities. >> we heard one of the people speaking to the pope presumably one of the immigrants saying you
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being here validates us. >> at the end of the gospel of matthew jesus says, go--effectively, go to those who are hungry. go to those who are thirsty. because of the christian faith every time we do that for someone who is in need, we do it also for god. >> this has been a crucial refrain. this particular panels of scripture has been cited by this particular pope countryless times. it's central to his alexandri mission. i think that passage in matthew where jesus says as much as you do it to the least of these, you do it unto me. he doesn't put a distance between himself and those who are neglected or marginalized. i think its crucial that that
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scripture is read here. we have to be reminded not to disconnect. [ speaking in spanish ] >> thank you for having me. [ speaking in spanish ] [ children laughing ] >> it's been very interesting, some of his speeches have been in english.
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some are read in spanish and then translated into english. but here he's talking only in spanish. he doesn't want allow the translator to get in the way. he's speaking the language of the people. just as the gentleman just said, validating them, affirming them. >> i can't help but think how many students who are here in that building are esl students and they're hearing from the pope in their primary language. >> i got the figure 69% hispanic, and i was told that most of them spanish is the primary language and they pick up english in school starting in kindergarten. >> we've been talking about how the pope focuses on immigration. when catholicism came to this country, many catholic communities, the irish, the italian were seen as immigrants. when the pope was at
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st. patrick's cathedral, we were talking about the construction of st. patrick's showed that catholics had arrived, they were able to build their own church. at a time when they were pushed down, regarded poor and dirty, there is a tradition of associating the catholic church with the immigrant in the country, something that we've lost sight of in the last few years in our country. here the pope is bringing the church back to its immigrant roots in the u.s. >> this event transitions to the next one that the pope is headed to because he's going to be head to go central park. we're going to be talking about in the next hour the role and environment that nature plays in terms of the catholic faith. i wonder if you can connect with the students who are taking care of the environment and worried about it, how significant is that in terms of the education of catholic students at a very young age starting in third and fourth grade. >> the pope likes to talk about
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a concept, a bit of mouthful. what he means is that the well-being of the environment and the well-being of human beings cannot be separated from each other. he hasn't just been talking about ending climate change or helping to stop climate change. he has talked about how climate change disproportionately affect the poorest people in the world. how capitalism can push the poorest people down the economic ladder. and so this notion of justice for the people is about combining all of these things together. environmentalism, economics, and immigration. >> and reverend waldrond, a lot of neighborhoods in new york have problems with pollution, broken bottles syringes, has that gotten better in harlem? >> in some areas it has, the areas that have become gentrified, definitely. the pope is drawing attention to
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income inequality and income injustice. for those who are political leaders of a political class in this community, in this city, that is a taboo topic in many ways. but to now address it in a frontal manner, i believe it was the pope who talked about the fact that unbridled pursuit of wealth at any cost he compared it to quote from a fourth century bishop, it is the dung of the devil. we need to be reminded of that especially in the city of new york sometimes a pursuit from material prosperity in our intoxication with materialism ought to be put on pause. especially when it's done to the neglect of poor people. >> one of the things that we've been talking, and we've repeated this throughout our coverage, pope francis, he was born and raised in the argentinian capital of buenos aires. teresa, i know that the pope's visit has been getting worldwide
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reaction. what has it been like in his hometown as they see him in these events talking primarily in spanish. what has been the reaction? >> well, people here are thrilled that the pope is currently in the united states. he's on television. it's on every newspaper in the country, the argentinian press and the argentinian people have been following the pope from cuba to the united states. they're thrilled because it's taking the message from the developing world, from income inequality, poverty, the people we have spoken to are saying that the pope is taking the message of the problems that many people in argentina and in other parts of latin america are facing today. >> one of the key problems that is facing the americas, of course, is the number of people who feel that they need to flee their country in central america and make the arduous and dangerous trip through mexico and try to get to the united states. that ties in to the pope's focus on welcoming immigrants. welcoming people who are seeking a better life.
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was that ever much of an issue for him when he was in acting simply serving as a cardinal and a local catholic leader? >> well, as a pope here, he has always been known as a figure who has been close to the poor, those who lived in the slums. in buenos aires, the position he had before becoming pope, he doubled the work who worked in buenos aires slums. he's very well-known for that. when we go through the slums talking to people, they remember him being there saturday and sunday, being there eating a barbecue with them. there are many in buenos aires' poorest areas who remember him and the work that he has done. that shows where his priorities lie, priorities that he has taken to the vatican and to the whole world.
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>> during the ceremonies at ground zero, there are stories about the pope, a rab lie in argentina, talk about those ties that he had in argentina and how much he has kept up with that since he has become pope. >> well basically while in argentina he has always been proclaiming inter faith dialogue, especially among small communities. let's not forget there was an attack against the israeli embassy, the jewish community here, he was very vocal about that while here in buenos aires. we've seen him travel all around the world speaking about peace, about religion, everywhere he went. that is clearly a priority for him, and it has been a priority while he was here in buenos aires, too. >> teresa, thank you very much. a great temptation to have her
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translate what the pope has been saying. patrick, have you been able to pick up what the pope has been saying? >> the pope is speaking to the children. he's greeting them, wishing them well. he acknowledges that this is a school where many of the people come from other countries. he says that they're immigrants like him. they're visitors like him. there is some really truly beautiful messages that the pope here has for these school kids. >> reverend mike, for members of your community, the first corinthian baptist church, how much will the pope's visit tie in to your teachings over the next few weeks. >> there is excitement primarily because of what the pope is saying, the issues he's confro
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confronting, some of the radical and revolutionary stance he's taking. that's encouraging as a christian to see someone who takes the teachings of jesus seriously. he does not just engage in these disembodied process cha imaginations but embodies justice, embodies hue millties, anhumility, this is so important, especially when there is such a tendency in some religions to become exclusiona exclusionary{^l" ^}. >> they have put a focus over the last hour on service, and people working for the greater good. there is certain familiarity that our viewers have with catholic charities, but can you talk about some of the options that some of the downtrodden in harlem have if they are in trouble. is there much? are there many organizations they can turn to? >> there are many
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community-based organizations who do a tremendous amount of work. there are many religious organizations, churches like ours, first corinthians, we have a food pantry. we feed over 20,000 families a year. we have a program calls breakfast before books where every day of the week this year we feed children before they go to school. there are spaces where resources are being provided. but it's thin, so more work is needed for sure. >> we're seeing the pope and his discourse here. among the last things that he said, david, was that he asked--he gave the kids home work. the home work is something that francis has said over and over again since elected pope. it was to pray for him. there is something truly revolutionary about that. pastor mike, i hope you agree, there have been popes in position of leadership, who come and condescen condescend to
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other people. but this pope has bowed down to the people and asked people to pray for him. it shows christian faith showing that those who are first shall be last and those who are last is shall be first. this is a man who practices what he preaches. >> and as you just said, it's an emfouring moment. imagine being the child, as you just heard the pope ask you to pray for him. that is an empowering moment. it gives validation to your voice, to the voice of those children that they can pray, their voice matters. that is important. >> certainly a connection to these children now have for the catholic church to the pope for perhaps the rest of their lifetime, and one of the questions that the principal said one of her honor students wanted to ask is whether the pope would be willing to come back to new york city and go with some of their school kids to a yankees game. that's possible that the pope
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may come back as pope john paul ii did, have a mass at yankees stadium, and i guess the pope is known as somewhat of a sports fan. >> if it was a soccer game, they might have had better luck there. >> that's right. i think even with the blessings from the pope the yankees may be in trouble. [ singing ] >> i think, david, right before this we had prayers and songs offered from persons of african community in harlem. i would imagine for them as
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well, especially when there is so much negative commentary coming towards the native africans who are coming here to this country. >> we saw the picture on the left of the screen. it's cardinal dolan, how is he regarded as a religious figure in new york. >> in the catholic church he's regarded rather well. people of other faith they respect his position. they respect the seat he holds, but there is a distance between many faiths in this city. [ >> don't forget the home work.
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>> pray for me. that's your home work. to everyone who is in harlem today. again, almost entirely in spanish, david, validating, acknowledging, staying close to people, not letting language get in the way. of course, this pope is well fit for that as a native spanish speaker. >> let's see if the microphones can pick up any conversations as they lead the our lady queen of angels. [ piano music ]
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>> again, 250 students and lots of people from the neighborhood have been gathered and waiting for the arrival and departure our lady queen of angels and where they will be in the next five-ten years they've taken a dramatic effort to combine resources from other catholic schools to survive, but the number of parishes, the number of catholics-- >> in east harlem there used to be eight, but no--parishes, now there are four. it's parallel to the number of diocese cross the country. it's not that there are fewer catholics. there are more catholics in the city today than there were in
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1991, but the number of priests from that time has gone from 2,177 to only 1343. >> that also--you saw that in some of the pictures. the principles, some of them have this image maybe it's a wrong stereotype. the people who are in charge of the catholic schools, it's the priest or the nuns, but now it's lay people because there are not enough priests an nuns, and so you have a lot of lay people serving in that role and that requires a different type of economic model to keep the schools functioning. >> that's entirely right. it was the case where the priests and nun was fulfill these roles. in the 1960s they opened up a full range of other services to the people. it may be i may be a case where priests and nuns no longer hold those positions but they still
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say mass and hold services so they'll need to confront this significant shortage of number of clergy as the current clergy age and retire and beyond. >> walking by one of the cameras, so we might be able to pick up what he says going out the door. >> i can't help but go back to the woman milli who made another comment. she said it feels like hope it there. imagine what that means when you live a particular life, where you experience sometimes daily, weekly, the eclipse of possibilities, to say that in seeing the pope you feel like hope is coming. and in many ways for many people today i think they'll say that hope came to harlem today. >> indeed. roxana saberi is outside of our lady queen of angels hoping to
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get a departure shot of him, roxana, take it away. >> david, a lot of people are still out here on the sidewalk. they've been waiting out here some all day some from last night. they're hoping, and it sounds like that they're seeing down there the pope coming out of the school, which is just one block up. they're hoping to catch him as he arrives back down here towards central park. a beautiful mix of people out here. a lot of immigrants, people were all every the country and some from overseas. they have their cell phone poised ready to take a picture and perhaps a video. we'll squeeze in a picture with donte. you said that you have lived here for quite some time. why is it important for you to be out here to see the pope? >> very important to me. i came to hear his message that he has for the whole world, especially for the united states
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and the congress. you know, they don't the things they are supposed to do, maybe now they'll try to reconciliate the democrats and republicans, everybody, because we have to be united to see the world get better, especially for the poor people. >> as an immigrant, what does his message mean to you? >> to me, i have a lot of things. personally, i immigrated here. i have a lot of opportunity, but a lot of people are critical of the poor people, the homeless people. they need more opportunity. government and other people are supposed to do better for those people. especially with me, i have a lot of opportunity. >> thank you, donte. i hope to catch another glimpse of the pope here in a few minutes. david, he should be coming down the street pretty shortly. we hear the motorcycles starting up here. which is a sign that they're going to be ready to escort him down the street. >> i know you can't see him.
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he just stepped in to the four four-door fiat. we're lifted in terms of the images from our lady queen of angels, one of the fourth graders who happened to be in the classroom today. he said it's cool to be meeting the pope when you're only eight years old. this is crazy. he'll wave his he has his entourage. the number of people in the neighborhood who said that they were cleaning up or they were painting or redoing their shop across the street or having people sleep over so they could get a glimpse of the pope. they may not get a chance to meet him, but just to get a glimpse of him. the sense of hope that exists in
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this community now as a result of this, how do you sustain it? >> i think what the pope enbodies is a transcendent visionary, so to speak. i liked what donte said, the hope is that what the pope told congress they can now get to the work of helping people who are struggling in this country. i think there are spaces of hopelessness in harlem, but today it was punctuated by the presence of the one who embodies compassion, love and grace. that embodiment gives another possibility. >> they're headed right by where roxana saberi is going to be. the kids were chanting, patrick,
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it was a particular catholic church chant or were they just singing? >> they were chanting francisco, chanting the pope's name. he just lit up. we didn't expect up what the words were, but you could see him in the backseat of this now iconic fiat, the small car that he drives around in both washington and new york. >> i'm told they were chanting holy father, we love you. again, 250 kids from our lady queen of angels, st. anns, st. charles. >> david >> well, with so many cellphones, and so many people
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trying to run a stream, to broadcast the pope driving by, it often causes cellphone coverage around him to be spotty, and some of the other connectivity is not necessarily going to work. so you can imagine for people who have an opportunity who see the pope who live in a tough neighborhood, people are immigrants, and english is not their first language. and 70% of the kids in this school have to rely on federal food programs for their lunch. the inspiration and the hope and the energy that the pope delivers is pranc perhaps be remarkable. the first corinthian church, and also the chiro of theology, and mark, what do you say? >> i've been looking at the pope, and i've been struck by
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how many people are saying, he's our pope, and they're not catholic, and it's because of the unifying message that pope e francis has been consistent with, and also this work of affirmation that often gets undone. i feel in many ways, he's my pope as well because of the message. because i can resonate with the message. it is the message of jesus. it is the push, the reminder that we ought not to get to a place we forget those who are marginalized and underserved. that in many ways, we must take seriously our responsibility as human beings, not just as catholics or protestants, but as human beings to confer the dignity of human beings, regardless of where we're from, or your status or position, everyone ought to be treated with the same equality of dignity. >> the picture that's going in
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and out there, that is of central park. the most visited urban park in the united states, and it was the first landscaped park in the united states. a lot of symbolism with the pope, making the next scheduled visit. but what the pope is going to do is transfer from the fiat to the cherokee, the jeep, the pope mobile. and there are some 80,000 people hoping to get a glimpse of the pope as he passes through central park. our own paul beeven is with the people in central park, looking for a view, and paul, this is so important as far as symbolism and the catholic church, and nature and the environment and tell us where you are, and what people are hoping to see and what they're anticipating. >> well, david, i'm on the roof, looking down on the west part of central park, in between 58th and 55th street.
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and you might be able to hear that roar behind me. there are at least 68,000 people here at this turn. it's a little more than a mile, 72nd, down through this section on to 59th on its way, down to madison square garden, and 20,000 people enmarx but as you mentioned, throughout the park, 80,000 people. >> we're losing palm, but it's more than 800 square acres, and which part of the park will the pope go to? we know it's going to be on 72nd down the southwest side. and people who are familiar with new york will recognize
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that that's the part where the extra ball fields are, and not too far away from the central park zoo. and of course that's the next event, with the connection to nature. and we're going to talk more about that in a second. but the other thing that we want to bring you up-to-date with, for the last hour and a half, we have throngs of people on the sidewalks, outside of madison square garden, and the people have been jammed trying to get into a concert that started at 3:00 this afternoon, featuring people, including harry connick jr., and keith o'hara, and norm lewis, and martin sheen, and gloria estefan. and it's a concert designed to get people into madison square garden at least two hours before the pope goes no for an evening mass. the sidewalks have been jammed with not only onlookers, but there has been a very long line on eighth avenue.
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and again, people think of madison square garden as part of the sports venues. madison square garden, where they have the fights, and went to show you a video that shows the crowds lined up to get into madison square garden, and our own bisi onile-ere is outside of madison square garden, and this is where the pope is going to say mass. and there's this massive concert going on right now. bisi, what do you see? >> well, i can tell you, david, the picture behind me says it all, here in madison square garden, and there are thousands of people lined up, hoping to get a glimpse of pope francis. as you mentioned, the event tonight is expected to attract 20,000 people. and millions more are expected to tune in. there are so many people out
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here. they are so excited. the excitement has been building for quite a while. and you have people here from all different faiths. i talked to a lot of them. and they said that the opportunity to see pope francis is an opportunity that they did not want to miss. david? >> bisi, a lot of us associate madison square garden with, right now, because of all of the performers who have been there, and an interesting story. billy joel was supposed to give his monthly concert there tonight, and when it was announced that the pope was going to go, he agreed to move it to tomorrow night. and traffic has never been easy getting in here, but how many side streets are on blocked off and how difficult is it for people to move around down there? >> it is extremely difficult. security out here is tight. i've seen police cruiser after police cruiser, and there are
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several streets blocked off. i'm told that getting out of penn station is very difficult. and bus routes are shut down. so the authorities are warning people, if you're not here, it's not a good idea to try to get in, because if you do, it's not going to be easy. >> bisi onile-ere, outside of madison square garden, and we to the take you now to central park, and this was the pope's schedule. he was speaking yesterday from the white house about the environmental challenge that we're all facing, and he has written in his encyclical and he told the members of congress, that it's important for all of us to enter into a dialogue with all people about our common home, and the pope has made it clear that part of the catholic kurt of care that patrick is going to talk about in a moment includes protecting nature. so with that setup, patrick, tell us why central park, and how this fits in to the overall theme that the pope has been trying goat across this week.
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>> central park serves a number of purposes for the pope's journey, and one of them is that many new yorkers wouldn't get a chance it get a glimpse of the pope. a lot he's moving in the small fiat, going by quickly, so there are two pope mobile phases of the trip. one down yesterday. and today, a trip through central park. more than 93,000 people asked for tickets. they were given out for free in a hotly from the mayor's office, and people have been scalping them for $500 apiece. >> and i imagine that didn't go over well with cashed nal dolan. >> and the pope didn't like it either. but central park, the most visited urban park in america. a place where new yorkers go to escape urban life and get close to nature in all of its forms. this is a pope who consistently
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said and perhaps emphasized more than any other pope before him, that it's not just enough for people to believe that they're the lords of the environment, as some think that the book of genesis said. but rather, to take care of the environment and be stewards of it instead. >> coming through central park, and we're going to talk about the park and the six of it, and the pope's message of environmentalism. but we want to talk more about the event ta we just saw at our lady queen of angels, with an impoverished community in harlem. and you can appreciate the impact, and we have heard that it's going to have on some of our most needy and vulnerable citizens. particularly those who are first generation americans. we have our own jennifer london, who has been following a lot of immigration issues in los angeles, and of course people around the world and around the united states have been focusing on the pope's concentration on immigration.
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do we have jennifer london? i'm sorry, you're in philadelphia. and it's not just the immigration there, but it'sas issues of homelessness that are in philadelphia. so tell us what you've got. >> well, the city of brotherly love is waiting for the arrival of the holy father. he's scheduled to arrive at 9:30 tomorrow, and he will give a private mass at the cathedral, just over any shoulder. and then we expect him to talk about religious freedom and about immigration, and certainly, the people in this city that i've been talking to over the last few days, are saying that they will be ready to hear more about immigration, because it has been such a divisive issue here in the united states, and one person i spoke to, she's a nun from chicago. and she said immigration is not politics and that's what the
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pope is reminding us. immigration is about people. and it's appropriate. it's the job of the people's pope to remind everybody that at one time or another, we were mostly immigrants too, so we're expecting to hear more about the immigration issue tomorrow. but on sunday, the pope is scheduled to meet with the u.s. bishops, and he'll then be going to a correctional facility here in philadelphia. and david, during that time, we expect him to wash some of the feet of the inmates, and this is something that the pope has done when he visited other correctional facilities, and we expect him to do that tomorrow. and we expect him to cap off his two days in philadelphia with a public pass, and it willl be followed by a concert. aretha franklin and andrea bocelli, and then the pope goes to rome on sunday night. >> two days ahead in philadelphia, starting tomorrow. but as you see the pope's
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entourage with the concert coming up to the pope mobile, and soon to be going to the 80,000 people standing by at central park. i saw you shaking your head, reacting as jennifer london talking about how this pope is going to be washing the feet of the poor. >> again, i was taken by that. because i think cha what he's doing, he's bringing dignity back to people who are often overlooked in our culture, and marge lynnlized and rendered irrelevant. and he's doing that, not only that but taking his mandate as a priest, as an example of the faith. when the scriptures talk about the greatest among you will be your servant, that greatness is not about how much money you have, or what possessions you own, but greatness is about the ability to serve. and that's what i take away from this.
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>> reverend, any thoughts on -- you see the pope transition from the fiat into the pope mobile, and the missed aspects of the pope's visit, you can go to central park any day of the year, and find the most eclectic mix of nationalities, wealthy, poor, those with nice clothes, and those who don't. some with beautiful apartments on park avenue, and central park west, and those coming in from the bronx or from harlem. >harlem. >> the melting pot often simmers, and you see the six there, but we speak about ecological differences, and the pope's phrase, it's our common home. and he reminds us, we share this planet together. and not only do we bear the responsibility of taking care of it, and being stewards of it. but also bear the responsibility of taking care of each other. so i think that children to
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nature, it's a natural transition. >> it has been a pleasure having you with us. >> appreciate it. >> again, we're looking at the live pictures of pope francis, in the pope mobile, and he came in for those trying to figure out how he got into central park, he got in through the east 72nd entrance from the's. in the northeast of harlem, and entered that way. i little bit about central park, for our viewers not familiar. and it's not many of you, because there are 35 million of you who visit central park every year. it was designed by the famed landscape architect, frederick olmsted more than 150 years ago. and this part was not developed because of the marshes and the rocky nature of it. but a number of merchants and
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landowners felt that for new york to be a great city like london and paris, it would need prominent park. so the city essentially through eminent domain confiscated 08 acres, and over the years added another 100. and asked the architects, frederick olmstead and calvin, and they spent decades putting the park together. just about everything in central park is landscaped. and it includes extensive walking paths, horse pacts, two ice skating rinks, including one that becomes a swimming pool in the summer, the central park zoo, a wildlife sanctuary, a 106-acre, $1 billion reservoir, and a walking path that encircles it, an amphitheater, seven major lawns, 20 enclosed children's
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playgrounds, and it goes on and on and on. and central park is one of the most filmed spaces in the united states when it comes to movies. there are more scenes filmed in central park than anywhere else. [ cheers ]
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>> the reason our video is shaky, there's a camera on the back of a flatbed truck that's going in front of the entourage there. and were all of the interference from cellphones and what not, and as any bicycles will tell you, the roads in central park are not as well paved as people would like. so it's a little bit bumpy. but tell us about the security for pope francis when he's out and about at the pope mobile, waving at people. >> protecting pope francis has become one of the largest security operations in u.s. history. and even just walking around madison square garden this afternoon, i spotted the new york police officers, and
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new york it state trooperrors, secret service officials, and the vatican swiss guard, sending in their own personnel to be alongside of the pope. and we have seen a little bit of back and forth between the pope and his security. we can hear some of the security officers saying things like, let's keep it moving, keep it moving, and on wednesday morning, we saw a classic example of a little girl, a five-year-old who jumped over the barricade and made her way to the pope, and he wanted her to come over, and naturally the pope won, but i'm sure that for some on hand, are there any surprise that's come? >> there's a little path, it's essentially a big loop that goes throughout central park. six miles long, and based on the route that the pope is going, he's going to go for a mile and a half or so, and on this route, the 80,000 people
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able to get tickets through the city of new york, and tell us how the tickets were distributed and who got them. >> there have been a lot of lotteries in connection with the papal visit, david. one for the park tickets, and the other, tickets for mass. in the mayor's office, allowing anybody who is a new york city resident to sign up. there were 93,493 requests for tickets, and fewer than half of the people got lucky and fewer than 43,000 tickets got them. even as the video goes in and out, people on the side of the road are 8 or 10 people deep. a colleague of mine sent a picture an hour ago of peopling waiting to get in central park, and even then, the lines were wrapped around the corner as they were going through bags. so there are tens of thousands of people there. and even more people, as the
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papal motorcade goes from central garden, and 20,000 people arrived, waiting for the mass to start at 6:30,. >> and pointing out these are two of the events that the pope has the greatest opportunity to engage large numbers of people to see him visually, with the 80,000. and as you mentioned, the madison square garden. and our own paul, we have established a connection with him in the park, and paul, what are you seeing. >> we're getting a large group of slow moving motorcycles and a lot of cheers off in the distance, which would suggest that perhaps the pope is finally getting closer. we have had waves of anticipation, and as you see how many people are holding up their cellphones on babies on shoulders, and now the motorcycles have passed and nothing is hang. so we're still waiting here.
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but 80,000 people, cheering papa, chanting, and waiting for the big moment, which appears to be coming any moment now. it's almost getting funny. people are so excited. and then they try to calm down, and then it surges again. >> what's your exact location in the park? we'll try to figure out if the pope is coming up to you or not. >> okay, so we're on the southwest corner of the loop road, between 60th and 61s 61st, across from 16 park west, across from the trump hotel and towers here, right by column bus circle. so well, we have a bunch -- here comes what looks like a tactical team now. it seems they want to stay closer. >> paul, this is going to seem funny, but i'm going to estimate that the pope is maybe 5 or 6 minutes away from you if you're at 61st, because i recognize that rise, at 68th,
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because there's a terrific children's playground on the upper left of your screen that you can't see. that's my geography there at central park, and you mention all of the people trying to take pictures, and cellphones, are people in a good mood? are they jostling? >> oh, yeah. we're right up against the fence, david. so we're starting to get a little bit of pressure from people, very friendly, and people trying to carry cameras to the front to get pictures, and for those who can't seem to get close enough, it's very festive, very warm, and no sense of pushing and shoving, aside from just the natural impulse to get closer to the big event. it has been this way all day long, as the crowd has really built, and i think that we're maxed out now. if you're not in, you're not getting in.
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>> how difficult was it for you to get into that southwest section of central park. >> i know that play ground. and it's not happy at that point. here comes a large -- >> we just lost paul, but that was great. not a happy hill for those who run the new york marathon. it goes on a loop, and when you run 25 miles -- >> it's close to the end as well, right. >> you have another mile or so before the end, and this is when -- just, you know, the pope, when you run the marathon, you have people screaming and yelling, and i have to ask you about the idea of again, nature in the catholic church. of all of the things, the pope, there were lots of places he could have gone. he could have gone up 5th avenue and gone up broadway,
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but the idea was what he saw in copacabana beach a year ago, but the significance of the park itself. >> to be in the park is to be amongst nature. and pope francis talks about it himself. the importance of human kind, situating ourselves within the natural world. for many many years, christians were taught that because the book of genesis said that adam and eve were given the world to tame and subdue and have dominion over t. we should expand and so forth. but more recently, theologians, and pope francis has been the most visible person in the christian world on this. saying no, god didn't give human beings the world to do as we please, but god gave human beings the world to take care of it. and so the park is a great exactly of that. it represents a group of people from the 19th century that
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you were talking about. up to the central park conservancy of today really taking care of nature, of this land which we have in common. it's not owned by anybody, but it's the common property of all. and it's a beautiful symbol of what pope francis is trying to talk about when it comes to nature and the environment. >> the pope is just about to go by paul, in the midst of it, and take it away. >> he just passed by, and we just see his back now going down the hill. the feeling was extraordinary, and it's hard to put it into words. there's sort of a hush that passes as he came into view, and then the roar just resumes again, and the pope going by. very very smiling to the crowd. and again, now people are trying to follow, and it's very difficult because he's just packed in here. but the moment has passed, between 60th and 61st, and
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he's heading now to 69th street. and proceeding from here. as we all know, it's our madison square garden. but a lot of hurry up and wait for a brief moment. so now, i think that people are wondering what to do next. >> idea, and now that he's down at 69th, he's going to be getting out of the pope mobile in a moment and getting back in the fiat, which is behind him, and exiting central park. so a mile, mile and a half that he travels on the loop. and then down to 59th. and there's cardinal timothy dolan, pointing out things about the park itself. but people keeping track, he entered at the east 72nd entrance, and then the loop that our own pope has described as not the most friendly hill of joggers. what do you think, patrick? >> this was a remarkable moment. i can't imagine what the feeling had to be like for
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those people. i said before, they were packed in 8 or 10 deep. and i think that i was half wrong. 18 or 20 people deep. and as he passed by, some flags being waved. and mexican flags, flags of other countries, and flags representing where people have come from to immigrate to this country, and this pope has really drawn all sorts of people together. catholics, protestants, religious and non-religious people, people more conservative. and for the most part, everyone seems to find a way of connecting with this pope. as authentic and human and speaking directly to them. and as our next guest said, recognizing their human dignity and where they came from. >> when we got the schedule, he was going to be doing this motorcade through central park, and there was a question of why didn't he choose to do mass in central park with hundreds of
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thousands of people as pope john paul ii? >> the arch diocese of new york, and the arch diocese of washington were put in a really interesting position by this trip. because the whole reason pope francis is here in the u.s. at all is to attend a major worldwide vatican event called the worldwide meeting of families, and it has been going on for the last four or five days, and it will go after he leaves. and interestingly, david, this was scheduled even before he became pope. and that's meant to be the climax. the big event and so they were asked, why doesn't he do something big here? they said, we don't want to upstage philadelphia. so it will be on sunday night at that major mass. 1 and a half million people expected. and that will be the huge event of this trip. >> before he became pope for years, he and pope john paul ii, and pope benedict xvi, is it possible when you're a cardinal, and you're having
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casual conversation with the pope. and they have gone to the united states, and they talked about what they saw and what it felt like to be there. >> that's a good question. one of the things that we know about pope francis, before this trip, he spent a lot of time with cardinal dolan. and he said, i don't understand your country. and please explain your country to me. and i think that's beautiful in a number of ways. it's very disarming and honest, and it also says that for his whole life, he has had the united states of america at the center of his vision, and people and why he has not come here before. this is a guy that has always focused on the margins, and the poor, and it's not that he doesn't think that the u.s. people need his focus and presence, but he has been focused on giving it to other people. so jorge gregorio, i'm sure that he would have listened with interest, with argentina.
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>> and surely, great public parks around the world. and we have seen that be somewhat of a theme for this particular pope. when he goes to other countries, havana, rio, and every place that he goes, there's an effort to go to a public spacious where you don't have to be wealthy to get in. and in this case, you had to have a ticket. but people can go and mix and mingle and it doesn't matter what material goods you have, and as long as you can get in, you're there. >> that's exactly right. and this is one of the many ways in which people have found that this pope seems to speak to christian values of mercy and acceptance, that in some of the previous cases h. the popes emphasized the hierarchy and the difference between the clergy and the lay, and the difference between people. and that's why people relate so well to francis. he seems to be willing to give you a hug and look you in the eye and call you by your name and not care where you have
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come from. and that's why people followed jesus in the first century. >> at this point in the day, you would think that somebody as old as francis is, in his late 70s, and he has one lung, and you think about the events today, he spoke to the united nations, and he went to ground zero, to the 9/11 memorial, and all the way uptown to harlem to speak at a school, and he spoke at central park, and now he's going downtown to madison square garden, that's where he's going next, it seems exhausting. >> it is. it's certainly not a schedule that i would be happy to keep up day after day. there's one piece that you left out, david. every day, between 1:00 and 3:00, there are no scheduled events, he goes back to the vatican embassy, and i hope that he takes a nap and has the
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luxury of putting his feet up for a second. he has a crowded schedule. but this is a person incredibly engaged at each of the places. certainly his joy and happiness increases with each day. he's getting closer and closer to the people each day. but it is. it's a punishing schedule. and remember, before he came to washington, he was in cuba for four very action-packed days s this is his sixth day on the road much. >> we're at the corner of madison square garden, which sits on top of penn station, and it's a central hub, not only in terms of train stations, a train station for amtrak in new york it city, but there's a subway hub, penn station, and madison square garden, it's an arena that sits on top of it, and for the last hours, 20,000 people have been inside of madison square garden, enjoying a concert with harry connick jr., and gloria estefan and jennifer hudson,
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and the concert, which is a warmup for the mass, and trying to draw people inside of the garden before the pope gets there, and there of been people out on the streets. and our own bisi onile-ere is outside of madison square garden, and bisi, what do you see? >> well, i have a feeling, david that, the pope was getting close. just a few minutes ago, we heard the crowds out here chaptering his name, pope francis, pope francis, a lot of excitement, and the crowd continues to grow by the minute. there has to be tens of thousands of people out here today. mass begins at 6:30, expecting about 20,000 people. millions of people are expected to tune n and i'm told that the theme of the mass, of the service, will be about peace and justice. just to give you an idea of just how intense it is out here, rewards t with regards to,
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there are many many street blocks, and in or out of here will be very difficult. so the authorities are asking people, if you're not already here, don't try to come in. again, thousands of people out here wait for pope francis to arrive, and we are expecting that that could happen any minute, david. >> what is the security like? they put up the iron fencing to keep people off the street. and is that the same where you are? a block in either direction, looking at the lower behind corner, and you see the circular building, and bisi, it would be off-camera across the street, and what's the security like where you are, bisi? >> well, i can tell you, david, they have the street here, and this is 7th and 33rd, and they have it blocked off so people can't actually walk into the from. we're still seeing some cars drive through every now and then, and we see people on
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bikes coming through. but as time passes and the pope gets closer, we see that some of the traffic has died down considerably, but you have officers on every corner, every street block watching the area, and we see helicopters flying from above, and as i mention, the security out here is extremely tight, david. >> starting to come, and it looks like they're going down 8th avenue, the corner of 34th and 7th. right in front of that where you see the subway there, the entrance to 1, 2 or 3. and that would be on the east side of the entrance to madison square garden. and also known as 110 plaza, there's an office building that literally sits right on top of madison square garden, and it's a very busy part of midtown manhattan, so for all of the people trying to get into the concert. and they have 350 events every year for madison square garden. it's home of the new york knicks, and the rangers hockey team, and there are concerts
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and dog shows and circuses and bull riding, and it has been home to political conventions. it's nothing new to have an event there, but you have a major event like this, a mass that the pope going to be leading, and people who want to get a glimpse of the pope as the motorcade passes by. >> all of security going -- >> right to the corner of 34th and avenue, in just a few moments, it's just remarkable. patrick, your thoughts as we're looking at this. >> it's remarkable, david, just to see people on the sidewalk for a glimpse of the motorcade, let alone the pope in the pope mobile, and it testifies to interest that so many new yorkers have, whether they're just passersby, or trying to get home in work and stuck in the crowd. we have been talking a lot about security. new york has handled this visit with a lot more aplomb in some ways than philadelphia.
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and there of been controversies in philadelphia. where large parts of the city have been shut down. a colleague of mine down there, said that the situation is militarized. new york is accustomed to many events. and the president barack obama visits regularly, and there are dozens of things going on now with the united nations general assembly, and they have this wonderful way of making things work without disrupting people's lives all that much. so penn station, this major transit hub, originally was going to be closed during the time of the mass, and a week ago, they announced.
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>> thinking about the possible object of the pope's visit, and this gets back to the question of central park, and madison square garden, the first major event. 197 1, the fight of the century, fraser beat muhammad ali. >> that's right,. >> philadelphia, we talked about how the philadelphia events are where the pope wants to place his focus, and he has been talking throughout the trip of the subject of the family, which is the reason he's going to philadelphia is so important to him. and who knows what instructions the new york and washington churches were given on how to manage this. madison square garden has a few virtues. pope john paul ii spoke mass there in 1979. so there's a press department
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for this. it's a small space, compared to large spaces like central park or yankee stadium. but it's big enough to fit in 20,000 people. this is the hotter ticket. you had a 40% chance of winning the government lottery, and getting into the mass is much much more difficult. many of the tickets were given out to parishes around the city. and they used different methods, lotteries, and in my own diocese, we were given 40 tickets, and they gave about 1 dozen students, and a dozen faculty and a dozen alumni. and the jesuit priest had to stand in the same line as everybody else did, though he's going to be one of the celebrants of the mass. >> it's a security issue. >> and i think that it's a lovely touch on the part of pope francis, or in the spirit of pope francis. they could have put together a
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special entrance for priests, and the priests are standing in line with everybody else. >> it's a really interesting point, because when i was talking to a law enforcement person, about why madison square garden? he pointed out that this is a secret service controlled event. and in 2004, this blocked off several streets, and there was a sky bridge, with the public library, and a bridge in madison square garden, and he pointed out that this is a facility that the secret service is very familiar with. it's a controlled environment. but there's a way to accommodate the vatican's need for this to not be overdone. >> it's a nice balance, and who knows what enhancements have been given over the years to the garden for precisely these sorts of events. it will be a grand mass, and a beautiful mass, and it will be a little incongruous that the panners from the championships of the knicks will still be up
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there, and the american and the canadian flags will still be up there, and we're told that the concession stands will be open, but they won't be selling alcohol. >> you can still buy pretzels, chicken fingers, whatever you want. and some of them would be turned into confession. so 56 places in madison square garden will be available for priests to hear catholic's confessions. >> but again, it's something that people outside of the faith may not understand. it's something that sounds somewhat not dignified. going to a place where you normally buy a pretzel and a beer, and you can still buy the pretzel and a hotdog, and you can give confession. >> jesus was born in a manger, so certainly catholics and christians are familiar with important things happening in incongruous places.
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this pope has spent a lot of time promoting confession, and he said that catholics should get back to confession. and it's something that has fallen largely out of use with catholics over the past few decades. i'm sure that the pope is involved with the nitty gritty details of the mass, but his emphasis on confession, a meas to be healed. and he talks about the church as a hospital. and there's something very franciscan about that. >> and the reconciliation is huge. >> reconciliation, and confession. >> the fiat going by. >> he's in 7th avenue, and he's going to go in the east entrance of the plaza, and perhaps the entrance for penn station, and the office building, you walk underneath the office building, and there you get to madison square garden, and it's been used for the new york rangers and
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knicks, hockey arena, and last week, madonna performed there. >> and billow joel. >> he's normally on friday night, and i mentioned madonna because there's with of a kerfuffle, because one of the things that madonna did during her performance last week, she had pretend nuns dancing in a strange sort of way. but that's madison square garden. >> and that's madonna. >> the hope was that everybody attending mass would have been there in the mast two hours, and they did have this amazing concert that featured hairy connick junior, and gloria estefan, and martin sheen, and patrick, do we know in they were successful in drawing people two hours in advance that the security was hoping
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for? >> certainly people were there early. i saw the sheet of instructions, and they were pretty strict instructions. they said if you're not there by such and such a time, bad things will happen to you, but people really want to see this pope. we have been hearing so many stories of people waking up at 4:00 in the morning just to watch the motorcade go by, and people in harlem, getting people around the streets. one of my colleagues had to go down to 23rd street. >> that looks like somewhat of a rock concert. and it's a concert. the upper part.
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and we also stand in the back, where the stage would normally be. > >> it seems that things are ready, and we don't know what's actually happening. i don't know if we can listen in on madison square garden. >> right now, it's nothing, and we're told that the pope was brought in through the loading dock, so it's contrast when you're the pope, and you're trying to do what vips and world leaders have to do. and that is go through entrances because of security, and presidents see kitchens more than they do the entrances to hotels. >> and we were told that he was going to arrive a little bit after 6:00, and he's in that case 15 minutes early, and my guess is that he may use that time as he did to catholic university on wednesday to, take a second trip around the
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arena in the golf cart. he relishes individual people. but he's going to come in wearing his traditional white garb of the pope. and he will eventually go off stable somewhere, and he will vest in the traditional vestments. >> the green, because it's not a traditional day for catholicism. >> some have said that it's green because he's such an environmentalist. and that's a happy coincidence. but this is called the end of the order time. the end of the season easter, and before christmas, and so catholics all over the world would be wearing green. >> the west side of madison square garden, the pope came in on the east side, and bisi, what are you seeing from your vantage point? is the crowd dissipating now that the crowd has gone by and is inside of the building?
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>> reporter: yeah, people are leaving the area x. the pope passed through 5 minutes ago and because there are so many people out here, they have their cellphones out and on twitter and instagram talking about this. and the moment the pope came through, we lost our live install unfortunately. but it was quite a sight to see, he was waving to the crowd. and you heard a lot of people gasping, a lot of oh, wows. really appreciate it. >> we just want to stop, this is a live picture from inside of madison square garden, and he's in the golf cart, on the floor, and he's going to be traveling around greeting people there. but don't let me interrupt you. continue with the thought there. >> as i mentioned, a lot of people were in awe having this rare opportunity for a lot of people to see the pope, and to
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see pope francis, the mass starts fairly soon, at about 6:30, and some people will be making their way inside of the doors for worship this evening, and others got what they were looking for, and that was to see the pope in person and in flesh. as i mentioned, the security is extremely tight. and the traffic is beginning to move a little bit, but it's still a lot of police officers out here. a lot of officers with dogs, and a lot of helicopters in the sky, and getting in and out of here is very difficult. it's tough luck trying to get in there, it david. >> inside of pope francis' doing a 360-degree tour in the golf cart there. and the significance of white roses and flowers, and people hand it to the pope and he place its like he did this morning at the 9/11 memorial.
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>> it's a lot of things, the white candle and the 9/11 memorial with roses, the pope is the one catholic clergyman who wears white. a lot of people think of a priest with black and white color, but he wears white to show that he's set apart as the head of the church on earth. and this pope has omitted a lot of the fancy things that his predecessors have also worn. some of our viewers may be used to seeing pope benedict xvi, looking like what looked like a cape or a hat on his head that was red velvet. and this pope has opted consistently just to wear the whitecap. it may be because he's a jesuit priest. it's one the largest orders, and they don't have a habit like the franciscans or the dominicans. and he traded his black suit
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for a white suit. and he has been wearing this whitecap since he was elected. >> let's listen to what the people at madison square garden are hearing right now. [ cheers and applause ]
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♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> words cannot describe when the pope is blessing people, particularly children with disabilities. >> it's so beautiful, david, this is such an emotional moment. even watching it on tv. you can sense the closeness of the pope.
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the golf cart stopped at some point, there was a young boy who is head was shaven, and another young girl with oxygen in her nose, and another young man with down's syndrome it looked like. such an incredibly compassionate young man, and he takes the circuit at st. peter's square, and he stops for people who are disfigured and in wheelchairs and people who are paralyzed. we have been talking so much in the last few days about how this pope has special care for those who are on the margins. it's hard to think of those who are more mainlinelized than those who have serious disabilities. and this pope showing his compassion not for the rich and famous, but the least among these. >> and caring for children with disabilities, the challenges are more enormous than the rest of us can appreciate. and to see such emotion from a
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mother there, tearing up and crying to get a blessing from the pope, and knowing that the pope is essentially thinking of her in that instant and her husband and daughter. >> the word we used in harlem, validation. you are just as important as anybody else, and your son or daughter is just as loved as anyone else, such a profound statement. and it's a statement that only someone like the pope can make. >> i wonder if therefore we just saw one of the other enduring images from the pope's visit. and then a few days ago, outside of the vatican in washington, again, with the disabilities as the pope stopped and greeted. >> and he was 20 minutes late to meetings in the united states, and i think that itself is a beautiful symbol of where his priorities are.
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>> here, he goes into a mass of 20,000 people. and some 1,000 priests, the royalty of the catholic church in new york all there, and he's leading with these kids and their families, and just a couple of them, stopping to bless them and provide some sense of hope and inspiration for them. >> it's incredibly moving. you're right, words cannot describe it. just the level of validation and level of love and compassion that these people must be feeling right now. and everyone watching. [ pause in captioning ] we're going to take a quick break and have more from the mass in madison square garden, pope francis in front of 20,000 people, giving hope and inspiration to the entire city today in new york and across the united states. more after this.
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it has been quite a remarkable day and talked about the need for peace and went to ground zero. went to a school in east harlem and met with immigrant children and disadvantaged, poor, a catholic school that tries to help them. the pope went to central park where 80,000 people were able to wave at the pope and shout as he drove by by. i are looking at madison square garden home to the knicks and rangers and now the hot ticket tonight as the pope leads mass there in front of 20,000 people. the pope is changing out fits as he prepares for mass to begin in 15 or 20 minutes. while we wait we want to get you
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up-to-date on some of the other news that broke today. it has been a very busy news day. in washington, house speaker john boehner, republican, says he is leaving it is poacht. he explained this afternoon. >> just yesterday we witnessed the awesome sight of pope francis addressing the greatest legislative body in the world. and i hope we all heed his call to live by the golden rule. last night i started to think about this and this morning i woke up and said my prayers as i always do and i decided today i'm going to do this. it's as simple as that. >> he appears to be the early favorite to succeed boehner and
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a lot of people. wanted. he will resign at end of next month and have reached a deal to keep the government funding and funding for planned parent hood that might cause the dhoj boehner next week. >> president obamaa holding a dinner at the white house for the chinese leader and the two discussed several hot button issue including cyber threats and dispute over territor nethe south china site. >> support peace and stability
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of the south china sea. the rowntries involved should address through peaceful means . >> i raise our very serious concerns for growing cyber threats today i can announce our two countries have reached a common understanding on the way forward. >> the leaders embraced a united nation accord that says niergt country will target the critical infrastructure in peacetime. the. >> the pope will lead a mass in
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just the next five or 10 minutes. the pope in a golf cart made a 360 degree tour around the floor most pointedly stopping and greeting children and their parents. the children with disabilities. we are joined by the chair of theology at fordham university. for people not familiar with catholic mass, explain the symbolism. >> the catholic mass reenacts what christians believe happened at the last mass, the last supper jesus had with his disciples. he took bread, this is my body and took wine, this is my blood and said do this in remembererance of mee. from the first couple of decades people have reenacted this ritual holding up bread and wine and making them sacred. we are watching the entrance procession to mass.
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when pope francis will come in, there will be five cardinals, 38 arch archbishops or bishops present. there are deacons, and men studying to be priest. there are 1,000 priests robed in white. we see the bishops wearing their, for lack of a better word, pointy hat. they are miters. they show authority. at the back will be the pope who will be wearing a miter and has a staff with an imaging on the cross. let's stop and listen to some music â [music]
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together by six women and the altar is made by three students from a lincoln hall boys haven a school for at risk youth. >> pope francis is just beginning the ritual of mass with the sign of the cross. >> bear our hearts and heart
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>> forgive us our sins and bring us to ever lasting life. >> amen. â [music]
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the holy spirit. one god forever and forever. >> amen. >> speaking[speaking in italian]
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>> explain the significance of this. >> in every catholic mass one, two or three readings from the old testament and the hebrew bible. from the book of isaiah. the catholic church has special readings for every day of the year. on special oications occasions s possible to substitute.
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these have been specially chosen. most catholics are used to hearing this on christmas eve. it's the people who walk in darkness have seen a great light and skipping down a paragraph, a child is born to us, a son is given us. a proclamation of the foreshadowing of jesus in the words of the prophet isaiah. â [music] â [music]
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>> the burning there explain the symbolism. >> it has been used by many religious traditions. in the christian faith incense marks something as holy. it is used in four different spaces in the mass. if t is used for the book of the gospels the four biographies for lack of a better word for jesus. it is for the altar where the pope will say the prayer over the bread and wine. you will see it used on the pope
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and priest, the third way and on the people as well. here we see the deacon carrying the book of the gospels in procession while people sing alalleluia. this reading from the gospel of matthew will be sung rather than said. it is a sign of how solemn this mass is. we hear other music. much writen by a woman we believe the first woman director of music for st. patrick's cathedral. >> the lord be with you.
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everything from the holy gospel according to matthew. [crowd answering] jeesesjesus said to his disciplu have heard it was said an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth. but i say to you offer no resistance to one -- when someone strikes you on your right cheek, turn the other to
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him as well. if anyone wants to go to law over your tunic hand him your cloak as well. should anyone press you into service go with to go a mile, go him twoa 2 miles. give to the one who asks of you and do not turn your back on one who wants to borrow. you have heard what it was said, you shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy. but i say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who
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persecute you that you may be children of your heavenly father. for he makes the sun rise and causes rain to fall on the just and the unjust. for if you love those who love you, what recompense will you have? do not let tax collectors do the same? and if you great your brother solely what is unusual about that? do not pag ans pagans do the sa? so be perfect, just as the
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heavenly father is perfect. the gospel of the lord. [crowd answering] >> we just heard the last of the readings that will be used at this particular mass and see pope francis making his way to the pulpit to deliver his homily what many know better as the sermon.
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][speaking in italian] >> the words the people who walked in darkness have seen
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a great light. the people who walked caught up in their activities and routines amid their successes and failures their worries and expectations, the people have seen a great light. the people who walked with all their joys and hopes and their disappointments and regrets, the people have seen a great light. the people of god are called in every age to contemplate this
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light. the light for the nations. this is what elderly joyfully expressed. the light meant to shine every corn are of the city -- corner of the city on our fellow citizens, on every part of our lives. the people who walked in darkness have seen a great light. one special quality of god's people is their ability to see, to contemplate.
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even in moments of darkness, the light in which christ brings, god's faithful people can see, discern and contemplate his presence in the midst of life in the midst of the city. together with can say today the people walk, breathe and live in the midst of smog have seen a great light, have experienced a breath of fresh air. [applauding] living in the city is not always
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easy. a multi-cultural context presents many complex challenges difficult to solve. the big cities are a reminder of the hidden riches present in our world in the diversity of its culture, traditions and historical experiences. we see the big city bring together all the different ways in which we human beings have discovered to express the meaning of life, wherefore we -e may be. but big cities also conceal the
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faces of all those who don't appear to belong or are second class citizens. in big cities beneath the roar of traffic, beneath the rapid pace of change so many faces pass by unnoticed because they have no right to be there. no right to be part of the city. here the foreigners, their children go without schooling are deprived of medical insurance, the homeless, the forgotten elderly. these people stand at the edges of our avenues in our streets in
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deafening an anonymity. they become part of an urban landscape which is more and more taken for granted in our eyes. and especially in our hearts. knowing that jesus may still walk our streets that he is vitally a part of the lives of his people that he is involved with us. fills us with hope. a hope which liberates us fr thm the forces pushing toward isolation, lack of concern for the lives of other, for the life
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of our city. the hope which frees us from empty connect connections from t analysis or sensationalist routines. the hope which is unafraid of involvement, which acts acts whr we live and work. hope which makes us see even in the midst the presence of god as he continues to walk the streets of our city. because god is in the city. [cheering] light traveling through our streets, how do we encounter god
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who lives with us amid the smog of our cities? how to encounter jesus alive and at work in the daily life of our multi-cultural cities? the prophet isaiah can guide us in this process of learning to see. he presents jesus to us as a light and now he presents to us jesus as a wonderful counselor, the mighty god, the ever lasting father, the prince of peace. in this way he introduces us to the life of the son so that his life can be our life.
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wonderful counselor, the gospel tell us how many people came up to jesus to ask, master, what must we do? the first thing that jesus does in response is to encourage, to motivate. he keeps telling his disciples to go, to go out. he urges them to go out and meet others where they really are, not where we think they should be. go out again and again. go out without fear, without hesitation, go out and proclaim this joy which is for all the
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people. the mighty god, jesus, himself becamei manual, god with us who walk along side us who gets involved in our lives, in our homes, in the midst of our pots and pans as st. teresa of jesus liked to say. the everlasting father. no one or anything can separate us from his love. go out and proclaim. go out and show that god is in your midst as a merciful father who, himself, goes out morning and be
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morning -- and evening to see if his son has returned home. and as soon as he sees him coming runs out to embrace him. [applauding] an embrace which wants to take up, purify and elevate the dignity of his children. a father who, in his embrace, is glad tidings to the poor, healing to the afflicted, liberty to captives, comfort to those who mourn. prince of peace. go out to others and share the
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good news that god, our father, walks at our side. he frees us from anonymity, from a life of emptiness and selfishness and brings us to the school of encounter. he moves us from the fray of competition and self-absorbion and he opens before us the path of peace. that peace which is born of accepting others. the peace which fills our hearts whenever we lookupon those in
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need as our brothers and sisters sisters. god is living in our cities. the church is living in our cities. [applauding] and god and the church want to be leaven to the dough and want everyone to stand at everyone's side as they proclaim the marvels of the wonderful counselor, the mighty god, the eternal father, the prince of peace. the people who walked in the darkness have seen a great
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light. and we, christians, are witnesses of that light. [applauding] >> god is in our cities, the church is in our cities. what did you make of the homily? >> what a beautiful summary of pope francis' message here for new york. that was the same line i wrote down too, god is in the city. pope francis reflecting on what the experience of so many people who live in great cities like new york truly is. he said at one pient point peops others by unnoticed because they
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think they have no right to be there and name aid whole bunch of category, foreigner, the homeless, those who don't have medical insurance, those who are disadvantaged and marginalized in other ways and said this this situation of darkness there is a light. that is the light of god and cries for pope francis. the church, he say sthere too. he is constructing for the church a message of what he calls encounter, going into the city and leaving the fancy churches and going into the poorest neighborhoods as he went into harlem this afternoon. this is a homily that was deeply religious and deeply spiritual. you couldn't hear it without thinking the pope was sending out to 25,000 to do this work throughout the world. it was endearing, it had a joke, people laughed and then at the end we heard something so rarely
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heard in a church, applause. three times the pope was interrupted with applause, a sign of how much this congregation in this very unlikely church, supports his message. >> for all of god's works and we trust in his unfailing love and concern for all peoples. our heavenly father ask for his peace. >> let us pray to the lord.
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â [music] >> the players are going to come in several think wells now, gaelic, mandarin, english, french and italian. the eucharist the next section? >> the income long the next lone eucharist is the consecration of the bread and wine. the languages here are significant. the pope preached in spanish, he has been speaking parts of the mass in english and will speak in latin, but here we pick up on languages that are either important to the history of the church in new york or important to the church in new york at this very moment. gaelic marking the irish roots in this great city.
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mandarin a growing group of catholics from china and in china and english, french and italian. even the choice of languages here trying to capture the breadth of catholicism in the country. >> the themes throughout the day seem to have all been tied together with the pope's homily and those who have been marginalized and we have seen that earlier today with the charitys in east harlem and stopped and extended a hand and prayers to children with disbabilitys. >> this is a pope believes everything is connected, the plight of the poor and environment and situation of people who have been discarded in our modern culture. >> much more of the pope and his mass at madison square guard only other side of this break. you are watching al jazeera america.
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and emotional visit to ground zero. we'll have complete coverage of the pope's visit and all the days news at 7:00 p.m. eastern. >> and welcome back. you are watching al jazeera's continuing coverage of the pope's mass at madison square garden. they are in the eucharist and some of the hymns being sung. patrick how different is this mass compare to the typical mass? >> the pope is there. and there are 25,000 people. which leads to really interesting logistics for this next part of the mass. as we have been talking about,
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we moved from the liturgy of the word readings of the bible are given and the pope reflects on them and we are into the eucharist, the consecration of bread and wine and they are handed out to everyone who is there. the pome pope will consecrate more than 25,000 small waifers of unleavened bread that will be distributed by over 200 people to the 25,000 who are there. ideally the bread and the wine would be offered. it would require a lot of wine. they will use nine lighter, a full case of wine to give to the priests and bishops there. what we are seeing is people bringing the gifts up to the pope which will be placed on the altar. >> howe are they chosen to be able to go up to the altar and have their blessing from the pope? >> we don't know. if a parish there is a people who have taken on a special role
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in the church. we don't know who these individuals are. >> 25,000 waifersers to distribe through the yowd. >> the vatican is good. 25,000 is a small number for a papal mass. we were talking about why this mass is smaller. the final mass of pope francis' visit will be in philadelphia, 1.5 million. that's the challenge kicked up another 60 times. and yet they manage to do it. there was a papal mass in the philippines with over 6 million. >> it requires many who are assigned different sections of the church and crowd to do it. >> that's right. and the right set of aifls to bring people in andush -- isles to bring people in and -- aisles to bring neme from place to place. this is a lengthy prayer that
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has singing inter spersed. it would be said in the language of the country where you are living, english or possibly spanish. here it will be said in latin the traditional language of the church. until 1964 for many searchrys all catholic masses were in latin. here it's a way to symbolize the bringing together of all the people into this one tradition and latin was the common tongue at the time. >> it looks like incense and oil. >> he is putting the incense seeds into the burner which is what makes the smoke go up. the person who has the thing that contains the incense will incense the pope or maybe the pope will incense him and he will walk around and incense part of the crowd as well.
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as i was saying before it marks the setting of something aside for god. here the pope is incensing the altar and table to consecrate the bread and wayne. he will walk around it and incense it. the pope himself will be incensed and the crowd where all catholics believe god can be found. as we continue to see the moap pope moving around the altar and incensing it, what is being sung is a piece called "how lovely are the messengers." it is how lovely are the
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messengers who preach the gospel of peace. throughout all the lands they are glad tidings. this is specifically for peace and justice. hitting on many of the themes the pope has captured talking about peace between nations, peace in cities and peace between people. there we see on the right hand side of the screen one of the assisting clergy incensing the crowd. and giving the incense back and we'll get to the pope for the eucharistic prayer. >> brothers and sisters sisters, [crowd answering]
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may the sacrifice of your son, the king of peace that signify peace and unity strength and and among all your children who cries. [speaking in latin]
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>> just a quick programming note. at the top of the hour we will go to our regular al jazeera america newscast. tony harris, it has been a remarkable day with pope francis in new york. it started with him visiting the united nation and talking about the environment and his hope for peace. he spoke at a catholic school in harlem attended by impoferished.
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there was a big political earthquake in washington, d.c., house speaker john boehner announced he will be resigning at end of october. he faced something of a political insurrection by republicans as early as next week. he was there with pope francis in congress with the first ever speech by a pope to congress. he decided to make it the expend yes, he wanted to leave now and thought he would stay on until the end of the year and decided now is the time. we'll have tony harris with a wrap of the best pictures of the day and best reporting in washington coming up in a few minutes. final thoughts as we see the mass continue. >> this is a splendid end to a really beautiful day for the pope. so many themes we have seen him touch upon are classic francis, the environment, inequality and
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justice. he said god is in the cities and is confidence the world and church are not opposed to each other but need to work together for peace and justice. >> on behalf of everybody, thank you for watching our coverage of pope francis. he is in philadelphia tomorrow and sunday. the coverage will continue on al jazeera. our regular newscast at the top of the hour. all the run down and full highlights on the video and imagings from the day pieced together in two minutes. thank you for watching al jazeera america.
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>> live in madison square garden, pope francis is celebrating mass right now for about 20,000 worshipers. it has been, as you know, a busy day for this pontiff. he addressed the united nations, and ground zero. i'm tony harris. we're going to begin with a major news out of washington d.c., the resignation of john boehner, and the white house dinner for xi jinping. here's the white house -- we don't have t


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