tv Listening Post Al Jazeera October 11, 2015 7:30am-8:01am EDT
now, i know you haven't forgotten, in case you have, there's the al jazeera website to keep up to date with the developing stories, and a lot of background and interesting opinion pieces and some wonderful photographs as well. aljazeera.com. [ ♪ ] hello, i'm richard gizbert, you are ot "the listening post", and these are some of the media stories we are tracking. journalists reporting on syria,
a multifaceted story with a russian angle. turkey - a columnist beaten up. how do news outlets in india and pakistan covered a bilateral relationship - the answer is not very well. two years in the making - a time lapse look at austria when russian war planes entered syrian. air passion and dropped their bombs, there was plenty of questions - where did the bombs fall. the kremlin's security was scrutinized. it came from further to the west, including media outlets in the u.s. like cnn and the "new york times", which is interesting, since that channel and newspaper had another story,
the bombing of a medecins sans frontieres hospital by an american gunship in which more than 20 were killed. the approach that cnn and the times took to that story, the terminology and timeline revealed much about the way the u.s. media covered war planes compared to the zeal that they brought. this is a media story with multiple date lines, motorcycle coe and afghanistan among them. our starting point is syria the weather forecast for syria, delivered from moscow on the state-owned news channel. partly cloudy with a chance of collateral damage. [ speaking foreign language ] >> this is part of the whole
russian propaganda and russia's war on terror, statements like this is weather is great for air strikes, without, you know, talking about what is going on on the ground. [ speaking foreign language ] >> the mainstream media, of course, try to support the move and see it as a positive for russia. and one of the main arguments is that it's better to fight terrorists abroad than at home. it's another reason they do not want to lose its position in the middle east. i want say 100% of media has this approach. they argue that it could backfire to russia, that the risk of conducting terror attacks in russia by i.s.i.s. can increase significantly. so there are several views on that. the dominant, i would say is
supportive to air strikes in syria. >> if you watch russian tv, they have taken a chapter out of the american war on terror. everything is about russia's war on syria, where it files and comes russia, and they save the day. >> we have seen it from the jindoism from the russian, from the american media as well. childrening we go to war, we don't want a fair fight. military commanders should be allowed to three everything at the enemy. >> . >> britain carried out a unilateral target in syria. the main papers carried the head
wam, bam, thank you. the tabloids were vadsy. we all have been in a challenging time. war is the first option, rather than the last. to assess the coverage, it is helpful to look back at the coverage from over a year ago. >> as the moon moves into a new phase, so does the war against i.s.i.s. when a coalition led by the u.s. and saudi arabia, jordan and the golf states hit targets from the air. >> 9:00 p.m. u.s. air strikes light up the sky. >> since then times, terminology and the tone changed. >> when russia bombs in syria, they are concerned with the
inaccuracy. they waged air strikes against i.s.i.s. there's not much concern. >> it's inherently indis crim nant. it's an act of bias. >> the main narrative here, i think, is that the hypocrisy with which the united states conducts policy. on one hand it conducts air strikes itself abroad. and in the majority of cases. collateral damage. the operation in syria, to blame it for civilians casualties. >> win paying attention would have spotted ner amp of
different standards replied to similar stories. when a hospital was bombed. killing 22 people. headline righters tied themselves into editorial not. it's not easy to report a story but saying who was responsible. they strayed. we tried to get their sons to their critics. neither replied. >> the "new york times" headline said the u.s. maimed for av ban bombing. the u.s. bombed the hospital. when it's russia behind bombing the media jumps to it. without confirming facts. the russian bombing caused
casesuality. how the media behaved to take the talking points and put that up on the air. casting doubt, coming up with reports in the "new york times", the washington reports. we are not sure if it was bun by the americans. if the americans couldn't do it. we find "new york times", 'washington post' seem unwilling to grabble with the issue. often they are defenses and we don't have enough information find the people to trust. it's a tiny organization. we have tracked hundreds of allegations as civilians caused by the u.s.-led coalition.
we can do it. they can't. >> the first wave of strikes is not whether the u.s. media can do the reports, it's a question of will. >> given the pressure the kremlin exerts, they, too, lack the will. journal it can conditions in the two countries are not the same. neither is the out put. similarities is inescapable. >> how many kids have they thrown away? >> "faultlines". >> what do we want? >> al jazeera america's hard-hitting... >> today the will be arrested. >> ground-breaking... >> they're firing canisters of gas at us. >> emmy award-winning, investigative series.
other media stories on the radar dash turkey has a general election coming up. it's conflict in the south-east, movement burgeoning and journalists are feeling the pressure, on october 1st. a columnist for a turkish paper and a host of a programme was beaten outside his home in istanbul, by four men, and hospitalized. last month a columnist issued a warping in the pro-government newspaper saying "we'll crush you like a bug if we wish, it's only because we have been merciful until now that you are still alive." last month officers in istanbul were attacked by pro-government supporters unhappy with the secular papers's coverage of the a.k. party accusing it of coring the p.k.k. prosecutors launched
an investigation into the alleged terrorism grouch. a video posted online showed them man handling two journalists. the reporter says he works for a kurdish newsagency. a cam raw man is with the gun tv. this past week hundreds marched in istanbul under the banner free media cannot be silent we reported on an episode of the west bank, in which two journalists were assaulted. their equipment destroyed. another reporter suffered fatal injuries, suffering after protests. she was on the air within hours. hannah, an-israeli-arab reporter was going live, covering an outbreak of fighting in east
jerusalem, when she was wounded by a stun grenade stolen by the police. the injuries appeared to be serious, but he was back on the air that same day. [ speaking foreign language ] . >> some suggested she may have been encouraged to go back on the air. it's not easy to get reporters accredited and getting a journalist in on short notice would have been challenging. israeli police used riot dispersal means. whoever is present risks getting injured. security forces have shot down a privately owned television channel and arrested two of its journalists.
a presenter on universal tv, and the channels east africa director were arrested october 2nd. the channel was raided. two members of the parliament from interviewed about groups brought in to quell the al-shabab movement. universal tv has been warned by security forces to stop the anti-government propaganda. this is it not the first time a media outlet has been shot down. left year authorities raided the officers and arrested staff members. it's been almost 70 years since india was partitions to create india and pak stag. the british pulled out leaving two countries, two populations and a pandora's box of geopolitical tensions in south asia, india and pakistan have fought three wars, accused each other of terror of the attack,
and battled over kashmir and tensionsers reflected in the news media. pakistan is often characterized as a terrorist state and suspicions of an indian hindu agendaa underline political discourse on the country. the media are a casualty of the tension. since 2014 there has been no indian journalists based in pakistan, it's been longer since pakistani reporters have been based in india. the air waves of both countries are jam-packed with channels whose output amplifies tensions. "the listening post" on cross-border coverage on the indian subcontinent. >> this was set to be an eventful year for india and pakistan. after negotiations the two countries agreed to hold talks in august. the first formal talks in
three years. before it began, the question came up of kashmir. >> talks were off, and media and both countries reported. woth media came to me, hostile. neither is prepared to accept that they could be at fault, and they are inclined to anticipate the point of view of the national security establishment. there was a hostile press in india. >> trying to sabotage it. >> what they were doing was that they turned it into a boxing match. >> talking to them again.
this is not a tone of journalism, it's naive, immature and pointlessly hostile. >> in pakistan. it is the enemy. and they used a phrase which is (speaks foreign words). it was used not very often in pakistani media. both sides took the position that the others is hostile. >> there has been an unwritten rule since the '90s. india only credits two journalists and vice versa. in 2011, radio pakistan withdrew the correspondents from new delhi, and the two indian journalists were sent home. the visa extensions refused. the situation meant media outlets in both countries staffed the cross-border operations with locals.
>> there was an argument linked up to the camera, and a conversation from a studio. i can sigh from my experience from having been there, that it's not the conversation that you have for 10 minutes, it's living with pakistanis, dealing with them in their deaths and births. these are nuances that you gets when you go to she is places. i'm not sure that the placing of indian correspondent in pakistan or pakistani correspondents in india is a solution. the problem is the systems are chromed by intelligence agencies. >> the big events in pakistan,
whether it was elections or the assassination or a bomb blast. indian media turn to colleagues across the border to get their repper stage. media will call and ask for our assessment of indian stories. there's a level of trust. where it doesn't exist is relations and they have gotten worst. there are journalists that try to take them out of the bold. security was crumbling in august. two channels covered the story in a different way, together. from yis llama bad they -- islamabad, they broadcast. and also from a honda indy
channel. >> the host from one side asked questions of a panel from the other. anywhere else it would be commonsense. it was extraordinary, in that it was to civilized. >> they were both sitting in the story, peaced together across the border. there was is loft of it was like the perverbial twine that will never meet. >> i have been covering the indian pakistan relationship it's been difficult. there's not a common understanding of anything.
there's not a common understanding of agreements even if signed by both sides. in india growth began in the 1990s. pag stan's media grew from a single broadcaster to dozens of chanls. news outputs from india is banned. the focus on neighbours is not as sharp as across the border. >> pakistan is the best indian media. it says there's a wound in the indian psyche that they have not come to terms with. the wound is passed on from generations to generations. the swings are incredible.
you take out the lobby. or you have to go and join bolly wood lobby. let's a lot of space where it does not take place. >> there's decades of history weighing on journalists. a revolution. taking bilateral relationships, twisting perceptions and there's pressure from above. the government things of media. and the pakistani government does likewise. the media has to understand regardless, you cannot be guided by one side of the story.
>> my colleague learnt, and this is what is happening. it mirrors what the two governments want to do. if they say they want to talk to each other. they can't mirror that, and fall into the embase, and then the -- embrace, and if the governments fall apart, the media falls apart. the media will not separate itself from the state consumers in south asia looking for something different in the way of coverage have options online offering a balanced perspective. among the desire for peace is a campaign launched in 2010 by the john group, pakistan's largest publisher, and the times of india, owning a big selling daily. editors say their aim is shaping the media discourse, and steering it away from rancour and decisiveness.
the campaign struggles to make an impact but has grown online. the website focuses on collaboration between indians and pakistanis, and features interviews and articles, and hosts summits and debates. in india, there's two other wib sites for indo pack issues. there's one, a tag line run to the media, and a wire. a new venture. over in pak stance, a few prominent people follow on twitter. the current pakistan editor - there are two columnists to follow. zi eidy is a former advisor to the pakistani ministry of former affairs.
finally, time lapse photography dates back to the 1870s, to a horse racing track in california, and a debate of whether all four of a horse's hooves leave the ground simultaneously while the horse was trotting. they were unable to tell by a naked eye. a photographer was brought in. through a series of experiments, time lapse photography was born, a development contributing to the development of the motion picture. today the technique is used to bring landscapes and city scapes to life, as shown by this nest shot in austria. these are with the vienna based production company called film spectacle. they spent two years, shot 600 sequences and used five terra bites of photos. austria is a picturesque country. we'll see you next time here at the "listening post".
i'm ali velshi, on target, imperfect alliance. america and saudi arabia may share military but not always alliance. i'll look at the differences the middle east is on fire. united states policy in the region is coming undone in places like iraq, syria and yemen, we are seeing civil wars, power vacuums, i.s.i.l., al qaeda, and interference from individual players like russia, iran and saudi arabia. the saudis, of course, are america's allies in the region, with u.s. coordination, saudi arabia is