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reform... >> ali velshi on target. extending the state of emergency, france keeping strict limits in place. raids to flush out others involved. >> we cannot be intimidated, that's what terrorists seek to do. >> on alert i.s.i.l. issues a threat about new york city. authorities insist it's nothing to worry about and whether to stop syrians settle in the united states for now identifying the bodies after the major raid, forensic teams
in the suburbs of paris, they are there trying to figure out if the body killed was the mastermind behind the attacks. >> good morning, welcome to your world, i'm del walters. >> and i'm stephanie sy. in france, the government is voting whether to extend the state of emergency. police are allowed to carry weapons even when off-duty. adam raney is there, what is the latest from the body. >> there's a lot of unconfirmed repor reports swirling around that abdelhamid abbaaoud was one of those killed. we were there, it was as if
grenades were used, it was a heavy raid by police with a push back and response from the suspects in this apartment on the edge of paris. they are trying to find out who are the individuals killed. now, there's no confirmed warns that it was abdelhammed abbaaoud or indeed salah abdeslam, the person who fled after the ahacks friday night. there's no confirmed reports that he was killed there. >> there's a sit of emergency in effect there. what does that mean in the city? >> well, it means that there's a lot more security, but there's a lot more power. let's look at what this looks like for people on the street here in france and paris. 100,000 security forces have been mobilized. that means there are soldiers on the street, something that french people are not generally
used to. interestingly, school trips are cancelled. students will be banned from taking trips on public transmit. to an american audience, it may not be important. it's a typical way kids in paris see paris or go on field trips is to take the metro system. there'll be tighter borders and checks. >> i flew in here on saturday. it wasn't that hard. there was a cursory check of the passport and everyone that landed. there were searches of homes, and that is a big issue in france. people are concerned that gives power to authorities, and the power to place people under arrest - without the ruling of a judge. security personnel may make the
decisions and people may be concerned that people will abuse the powers. >> there has been public gatherings since the attacks. there's a gathering behind me. but paris and france is a place where people like to protest, and it's unclear how popular this will be, between protecting the population and give up the rights. >> adam raney live in paris. >> lawmakers in france debating whether to extend the state of emergency put in place. the bill was presented to the lower house of parliament. they continue to conduct powers to conduct the searches and impose curfews and mass demonstrations. the prime minister making desire warnings as he urged them to be extended. >> translation: we have to act with the maximum amount of caution and there's the risk of
ch chemical and biological forces involved. the orders are interconnected, and the aim is so sow chaos. >> the bill will extend the government's powers for thrive month and will be presented to the upper house of parliament tomorrow. >> police in new york city are aware of an i.s.i.l. video promising attacks over images of manhattan. police insist there's no threat to the city and most of the footage is not new, there's images of times square, fifth avenue and times square, mixed with video of a man zipping a jacket over a suicide belt. >> there is, as we repeated, no city in america that is better prepared to defend and protect against a terrorist attack. we worked tirelessly to ensure that, continuously upgrading capability in the system. >> of course, we have chosen not
to show the i.s.i.l. propaganda. the n.y.p.d. is working with the joint terrorism task force and command teams to keep the city safe. >> authorities in honduras say they have interspected five hondurans carrying fake passports. they were on a flight to costa rica, and are believed to have been heading to the u.s. they are believed not to have been involved in the event last week. >> and prevention for people to enter-u.s. from iraq and syria. the president is promising is veto. >> the u.s. should move to suspend resettling refugees here. >> ramped up tensions on capitol hill over the syrian refugee programme. >> the weapons do not exist in a war-torn syria to vet individuals. >> president obama travelling in
the philippines defended the programme, saying stoking feels could help i.s.i.l. defeat followers. >> we are not well served when, in upons to a terrorist attack, we descend into fear and panic. >> presidential candidate ted cruz took the criticism. >> come back and insult me to my face. >> reporter: crews says it's lunacy to welcome refugees into the country. >> it's rich both insults were made on foreign soil when abroad, attacking me and everyone else in this country that believes we should not bring in tens of thousands syrian muslim refugees. >> crews is among the republicans saying syrian christians should be let into the united states, not muslims. >> religious is not part of the bill hitting the floor on
thursday. >> we will not have a religious test. >> the bill will stop everything in its tracks. the u.s. took in 2,000 refugees out of 4 million registered with the united nation, and the process takes 18-24 months. ryan say it should be tougher. it must be verified that there's a background investigation and not a threat to the u.s. then the head of fbi, homeland security and director of intelligence must certify to congress that the person is not a threat. homeland security must report monthly and the inspector general review certifications annually. the vetting process is rigorous. >> we will not lose site of the fact that three-quarters of the refugee population are women and
children. >> the house plans to vote on the republican billion thursday, before leaving washington for a 10-day thanksgiving break. >> and coming up, we'll talk to a refugee who fled iraq and living in michigan, about the process that he underwent. >> republican presidential candidate lindsey graham wants to step up the military action against i.s.i.l. his plan would send 10,000 troops to iraq and boost training for moderate forces. >> in the philippines hundreds of protesters as the asian pacific forum drew to a close. >> demonstrate jor were blocked from -- demonstrators were blocked, where leaders held meetings. president obama, and leaders from many countries. obama pledged naval assistance
to the philippines. he called on china to stop claiming lands. >> airport workers are on site ahead of a big travel week of the year. thousands of cleaners and baggage handlers walked off their jobs, better benefits and a wage of $15. the strikes affected all three as well as chicago o'hare. the walkouts will not impact travel the bad weather this the west, it has been blamed for flooding and landslides. the governor issued a state of emergencies, winds clocked at 110 miles per hour, three killed, hundreds of thousands losing their power, the utility company saying it may take days.
people that got out you have their cars and snow, they are on the road in kansas. a storm burying the statement. some areas getting -- burying the state in 20 inches of snow. >> now we'll bring in meteorologist nicole mitchell. >> there's two systems, one in the north-west, bringing in a lot of win. in fact, two days ago we saw the higher ones with winds and power outages, and kansas - most is from a system on the east coast. it took us a day to clear out of that after the areas of heavy snow. there's a snow i had back on this, where the system comes around bringing in the cold air. we have a little bit about that. we already have some different advisories for the northern part of the state. autumn brown and beige colours you see, they are not out of the
question that we see gusts over 50 miles per hour. it's hard on the high profile vehicles, and then the blues you see through parts of the mid west, that's the winter advisory for the next storm coming in. that other one we are looking about. we mentioned the winds, some are gusting, bismark over 40 miles per hour, and then there's the rain side of all of this, we get to the east coast. pretty. everywhere was going to get it at some point in the way. there's areas of heavy rain, behind the rain where we have it, we have dense fog this morning. getting out of the end side of all of that. watch it if you travel through places. little hard to see getting out of the door. >> nicole mitchell, thank you. when we come back we expose
tensions are high at airports around the world. a bomb scare forcing a plane to make a landing. this time at bulgaria. >> a charter plane with 161 passengers and crew was fly from warsaw to egypt. that's when a passenger said he had a bomb. the plane was searched. the passenger admitted it was a joke. >> that comes after an image was released by i.s.i.l., a bomb, it
says, that took down a flight over egypt. all 261 died. now there's talk whether the u.s. security would have detected it. >> questions about the type of explosive device utilised - is it the type that would have been detected, if you will, going through our own systems. >> there's no independent confirmation that that was the bomb used to take down the plain. matthew menman is a director of an insurgency center and joins us live from london - we have lost him. as soon as we re-establish contact we'll bring him back and update that story as soon as we have the information available. >> okay. we'll go to this - in the days since the paris attack, and confirmation that a russian passenger jet was taken down by a bomb, russia stepped up the air strikes on i.s.i.l. in
syria. a meeting at the g20 could mean more cooperation between the u.s. and russia. patricia sabga has more. >> reporter: from september said an icy toast of the united nations to november's intimate huddle at the g20 in turkey. vladimir putin's military intervention in syria moved him from the sidelines of global power to the inner circle in the fight against i.s.i.l. >> i think russia has made its point that there's not a serious solution without russian involvement. >> reporter: diplomatically shun and economically sanctioned by the west over russia's policies in ukraine, vladimir putin has been pushing for a grand coalition to fight yilt since september -- i.s.i.l. since september. washington resisted opposing strikes against russia's client, bashar al-assad. attitudes have shifted in the wake of i.s.i.l.'s coordinated
attacks in paris. >> translation: so i have asked the security council to meet as soon as possible to adopt a resolution on this common commitment to fight terrorism. >> monday, french president francis hollande echoed the call, announcing that he would travel to washington next week. tuesday the kremlin said he is coordinating with the french military in syria. >> the president of the united states of america... >> wednesday, president obama signalled washington is also open to greater cooperation with moscow. >> if we get a better understanding with russia about the process for bringing an end to the syrian civil war, that obviously opens up more opportunities for coordination with respect to i.s.i.l. >> reporter: the paris attacks have given vladimir putin a
platform to sell his syrian strategy at home, with the kremlin acknowledging on tuesday that a bomb brought down a russian charter jet over sinai two weeks ago, killing all on bored. >> concern that public may flip into almost this is an opportunity, we all face the same threat and must work about if together. >> reporter: it's one thing to talk cooperation, and another to stands shoulder to shoulder on a battle feed. with anti-i.s.i.l. momentum, the days of vladimir putin, being the odd leader out in politics appear to be over china confirmed one of its citizens has been killed by i.s.i.l. in a statement the chinese foreign ministry vowed to bring the perpetrators to justice. wednesday i.s.i.l. claimed to kill a second hostage, a norwegian citizens.
norwegian's prime minister cannot confirm but have no reason to doubt it. >> i.s.i.l. is not the deadliest group, it is boko haram. responsible for 66,000. i.s.i.l. killed 61,000. they make up half the terrorism worldwide. boko haram may be responsible for another attack, a second attack in nigeria. 12 people were killed in cano, the second-largest city. the attack 24 hours after a blast killed more than 30 in yoela. we re-established communications with matthew henman, the managing director of i.s. h james terrorism and insurgency center. he is live in london. paris, turkey, lebanon - a russian plane, lone wolf attacks
in canada - i.s.i.l. - now a global threat would you say? >> absolutely, we have been saying that the threat flown by the group is beyond this. obviously over the past year and a half. it expanded into the further region into places like libya, egypt and the north caucuses. the attacks overhe past month or so, as you assigni, beirut, jordan and paris, there's an intensification and internationalization of the group's operations. >> france wants to extend the state of emergency. what will is accomplish, and why is it needed from a law enforcement stand pointed. >> one of the things of concern, not just to the security forces but to the wider european security services is the fact that almost all the attackers were known to the security
service, known as individuals who travelled to syria and foughts with the islamic state. they came out, with known locations - to a certain extent - but managed to plan and create this operation. the great area of focus for the france, german governments and others, is to better manage intelligence, to better monitor and surveil suspects that are known. >> was it an intelligence failure or law enforcement in. >> loith you can't take the two things in isolation. what, if anything, the past 10-15 years showed us, they need to go hand in hand to meet the - you know, the challenges and the threats opposed by the jihadists dedicated to carrying out the attacks. these organizations are learning
organizations. it's never enough to rests on your laurels, this she is the attackers were proficient in traditional measures used by security to monitor and detect threats and disrupt plots. more needs to be done in terms of intelligence sharing and monitoring cross boarder travel. >> people in the united states would say they heard this before, and the u.s., in the days after 9/11, the u.s. enacted the patriot act. a decade later it walked. are there fears that france is doing things now that it will regret 10 years from now? >> i wouldn't say that's the case. i think there's a broad awareness, and it's refreshing to see a lot of statements coming out, from the french and belgium government, recognising that this is not an issue that
is greater security and draconian security will defeat alone. it's primarily a social issues. the socioeconomic issues driving radicalization within immigrant communities are the primary areas that need to be addressed to reduce the threat, not just ramping up security measures. >> there's a fear the intelligence community wants power. is this an issue of power, or fear that intelligence officers will be blamed if they can't stop the next attack and they want every tomb. not knowing what it is. >> they can understand the point of view. that's the first question asked, was this a failure of the intelligence services. they are the first people put against the wall when the
attacks happened. you have budgets, security measures - why are the attacks still happening? >> you return to the old mantra that the security services have to be lucky and foil every attack to be successful. the militant groups like the united states only has to be successful once for it to crash down. the past few months showed us that they have been planning and carrying out attacks on friday. it's been disrupted. there's cells disrupted. attacks prevented, et cetera. there has been a tremendous security effort. what it shows is that if you miss one out of 100, then serious questions are asked about the intelligence services. >> matthew henman, managing director of i.s. h james services joining us from london. >> coming up, police versus
>> the prime minister promising to put more than $400 million toward boosting security in that country, forces already carrying out six raised today in connection with the attacks in paris. we are love in brussels this morning. what can you tell us about the raised this morning? >> the belgian prosecutor's office say six raised were carried out in the belgian capital, some in the district where i am now in the western part of the capital. other raised were carried out in the northwest and south of the capital, not only in poor immigrant neighborhoods, but some in some upper class
neighborhoods, as well. we get more details about the activity, the life and the network of acquaintances. >> they travel to syria early they are year. take that into account and given that the suspect terrorist is already dead, it suggestion the belgian authorities may have been taking their own sweet time investigating his activities and perhaps will raise questions should they have stepped in earlier and been more proactive in investigating his activities while he was still alive. again, we asked question to the belgian prosecutor's office, what is the state in the search
for the only known fugitive from those paris attacks still alive, >> a majority of americans are opposed to allowing syrian refugees into the u.s., that's according to a new poll from blacksburg. 58% of respondents do not want any refugees to resettle in the u.s., compared to 28% who said they were ok with the current plan. 11% would prefer to only let christians in. >> consider this, 30 years, 3 million refugees, that's just how many people have resettled
in the u.s. with little fanfare. unlike much of europe, there is as detailed process in place to vet those who get here. we look at what happens after they arrive. >> after 10 years apart. angelique welcomes her relatives and most of all, her mother, to america. the journey for these refugees who fled war torn democratic republican of congress is part of the refugee resettlement program, the largest one in the word. >> we are so happy to be in america. they have been waiting so long, five years. >> at the airport, the new arrivals meet not only family members, but their case manager, who will help them over the next few days and weeks start their new lives in albuquerque. >> bus pass for her and also $25 for her. >> first with some starter
money, but also everything from applying for social security numbers, registering for school, or taking a crash course in english. >> i think the first week, for example, you start to feel the shock. they realize that they're really here. >> refugees often show up at the airport with nothing, so ahead of their arrival, the office prepares the basics, an apartment for three months and everything in it. he and his wife left kabul in august. their time, reception and replacement program is winding down and they feel pressured to find work. >> i have business degree and management degree, i can speak languaging, but unfortunately i can't find job as i want. >> you might think new york city, chicago or los angeles would be better places for strangers in a strange land to
move to, but the united states took in almost 70,000 refugees in the last fiscal year and not all of them can move to a big city. >> many refugees head to medium sized cities, including nashville, las vegas, boise, cities that aren't too big or too small. >> it's a community where people snow each other, care about each other, there's affordable housing, good jobs, the schools are welcoming and refugees find cities like that very comfortable. >> maybe a little difference. >> he keeps trying, meeting with his career counselor, working on his resume, determined had his degrees will matter if not immediately then down the line. for the latest arrivals who have not had a chaps to think that far ahead into the future, they are just glad to be alive. >> the fact that i am here is because of the grace of god. he decided i will not die in the
congo, that i will come to america. >> nephews, nieces, mothers and daughters reunited in the most unlikely place, but one of promise, safety and security. al jazeera, albuquerque, new mexico. >> protestors are camped outside a minutial applies police station. >> they want to know why an officer shot an unarmed black man and did he really pose a threat. we have more. >> it was a fourth night of protests outside the fourth precinct in minneapolis. people have camped out sips a policeman shot and killed 24-year-old mark clark. >> the official narrative has been inconsistent and changed in significant ways over time. >> there were confrontations wednesday as the demonstrators
crowded the precinct entrance, demanding that video of the i want be made public. >> the decision was made to remove the people blocking the he transand covering the security camera within the vestibule. >> they have sniper guns, sniper guns and full army combat in our neighborhoods, in our community, for no other reason than to break up protestors that are mad about a murder. >> some had guns that would look like machine guns to the public. they are not that, they are bean bag rounds, they could be gas delivery. >> protestors say police are disrespectful and not truthful about what really happened. the minneapolis police department said clark was aggressive and interfered with emergency medical technicians responding to a call. people who witnessed the insist insist clark was unarmed and handcuffed when he was shot. >> the convergence of these two narratives demands a response. >> the city's mayor has called for a formal federal
investigation, and the justice department says it will do one. local authorities are conducting their own investigation, but it could be months before the findings are made public. >> minneapolis mayor bedsy hodges said it's because of those on going investigations that she can't release the video of jamar clark's shooting. while it may someday become public, it may be months or years depending on where the investigation goes. >> have city officials released the names of the officers involved? >> no, stephanie, they actually have, 34-year-old mark wiggenburg and dustin schwartz. each has been with the minneapolis for eight years and one month. there's no word of which officer is thought to have been the shooter. >> the french prosecutor now says the suspected organizer of the paris attacks, abdelhamid abaaoud is dead. the prosecutor said he was killed wednesday in the raised
that we have been covering in the suburb of paris, saint denis. this is obviously a development we have been waiting before. there were conflicting reports. >> they believed he was there at the time of the raid but because of the severity of the raid, 5,000 rounds of ammunition fired, they had to get d.n.a. evidence and collect evidence from his relatives before they could identify the body. they believe the suicide bomber may have been a cousin and that that is a place he had been hiding out in belgium for quite some time. >> to give a little more background on him, he is a belgian citizen of moroccan descent. the original belief was that he had gone back to syria. police got an intelligence tip that he was in that home in saint denis and prosecutor confirming that abaaoud has indeed been killed. >> we'll have much more as the
story develops. >> the f.d.a. approving a new easier version of an antidote who can save lives of people who o.d. on heroin. it reverses the effects of openly yes, i do. the nasal spray version casts half the price of other antidote on the market. prescription and overdoses blamed for the deaths of thousands of people each year. >> in a man must decision that could impact the summer olympics, the world anti doping agency rules against russia. russia is accused of widespread doping in international competition. we have the story. >> the world anti doping agency voted to sanction russia for widespread doping. >> we asked for the evidence. the evidence we got didn't help us in any way. it was quite clear that they are non-compliant and were declared non-compliant today. >> the vote was unanimous. it had documented state
sponsored russian cheating in a scathing report issued earlier this month. the decision comes as no surprise to some american athletes. >> you can't give me back my podium celebration, the family celebration time. >> an american track star sees the vote as a long awaited validation. she finished fifth in the 800 meters in the 2012 olympics. two russians finished first and third, robbing her of a medal. the commission recommends the russians be banned for life. >> you can't give me the time where i'm standing there watching my flag be raised and be proud that i was able to represent my country in such a manner. you can't give that back to me. at the end of the day, it's robbery. >> the recommended bans were prompted in part by secretly recorded doping admissions by maria who won the gold medal in alicia's race and the problems medal winner. all told, wada recommend five athletes receive lifetime bans, along with four coaches.
the chief medical officer of russia's sports federation and director of the country's drug testing laboratory. the lab director is gregory, wad da accuses him of destroying more than 1400 test samples, taking bribes from coaches to hide positive test results while allowing russian secret police to patrol the lab and intimidate workers into followsifying results. wada stripped the lab of accreditation. the commission wants to ban the director for life. it believes the presence of russian secret police in the labs indicates that the corruption went to the highest levels of russian sport. last week, russia was suspended from all competition indefinitely, possibly through the upcoming summer olympic games. >> dick pound is past president of wada and author of the report. >> it was more extensive than we thought. here we have documents, as well as video recordings and audio recordings of people in the
system. >> they should be banned from the olympic and they need a complete koreanup. in terms of rio, 2016, i hope to be racing in a 100% clean women's 800-meter final. >> technically, today's vote is not final, but it is one more hurdle russia must overcome if it is to compete in the olympics in 2016. colorado rings, aljazeera america. >> very difficult to contemplate the olympics without russia. >> when we come back. protecting endangered crops. >> the effects of war on agriculture and the pennsylvania man trying to save the seeds. >> why 2016 is sheeping up to be one hot year.
abaaoud, is dead. >> 129 people dying in those attacks, 352 people wounded, the prosecutor now saying that he was killed in those raised on wednesday in saint denis. al jazeera is live in paris, adam, i am sure they are celebrating in the streets of paris in this hour as soon as the news trickleles down that indeed this man is dead. >> well, celebration may not be exactly what's happening, but a sigh of collective relief i'm sure will be exhaled by millions here in france and in paris, because this was clearly the most wanted man at this hour. he's considered the chief architect of the attacks on friday. we must let our viewers know or remind them that there are two people that were confirmed killed in that raid we were at at the early hours on wednesday, one is a woman thought to be the cousin of abdelhamid abaaoud and there might be a third person
who was killed, that's not clear yet and if so, people want to know if that is saleh abdeslam, because he is still at large this morning. the main person they went looking for was abdelhamid abaaoud. it showed they had good intelligence, and god on it in france and french people here and across europe and perhaps the word are going to be very happy that this dangerous person is no longer a threat to this country and city and others. >> as we talk about abdelhamid abaaoud, we're actually talking about a person that was involved or believed to have been involved not only in this attack but several attacks in the past. we were talking about the attack on the train that was from belgium to france and another attack that may have been planned in and around the paris area that you believe was thwarted by this raid that took place in belgium yesterday where you were at saint denis.
>> indeed, this is considered the most dangerous operating terror suspect in the country who is no longer operative. of course he was only 27 years old, but he was making a very large impact in isis acknowledge community where all they want to do is create cells, wreak havoc, commits acts of violence that kill hundreds and hundreds of people. people here are going to be extremely relieved to see that this one individual is confirmed to have been killed. he is part of a much larger movement. the celebrating here now, numbering some 14 to 15 people, so people are concerned that perhaps this one very savvy, violent operator has been taken out. the danger is no longer removed, because there is saleh abdeslam at large and still a verge attraction here in france for these fighters who want to commit acts of violence here. now they say it's because france
is targeting them and syria and in iraq. the french will say they are targeting their way of life. we're going to see if we find any new developments in the coming hour on saleh abdeslam. you have president hollande speaking in a short while trying to extend the state of emergency here for another three months. you have talk of confining people to home arrest if need be, of doing searches of homes without warrants. this is a country that wants to take control of the security situation. now they have a big, big thing to be happy about at this moment, but the work is by no means done here now. >> i wonder whether we have any further details on how abdelhamid abaaoud was killed. you've reported his cousin debt off a suicide belt, but there was seven hours of gunfire, a grenade thrown at these
suspects. any further details on that end from the french prosecutor? >> right now, no. we do know that they said they identified his remains through a new way of testing d.n.a., which makes it seem that the body they identified was quite destroyed. now that of course could be with heavy artillery, but it makes one think that those blasts may have had something to do with his death. we can only speculate at this time, because the french prosecutor is not saying how abdelhamid abaaoud was killed, but they are saying that they only identified his body, more than 24 hours later, at least that's when they let the press know about it, through this very innovative and new way of testing d.n.a. >> i know that the french parliament is debating now whether to extend the state of emergency. france already at this point has the power for warrantless house
searches. jacob ward report that had they have more legal leeway when it comes to purr saling potential suspects. i wonder whether you would expect more raised to happen and whether there were more accomplices believed to be out there as part of this terrorist cell. >> i think so, because also before the announcing of this -- of the successful killing of abdelhamid abaaoud, we had the prime minister earlier saying there could be chemical attacks, there could be biological attacks. this is a country that is on this footing, trying to prepare its people and its security forces that there are more attacks perhaps to come, so clear clearly acting on tips, on leads, on intelligence. there have been more than 400 operations and raised since friday's attacks. we can only expect there will be dozens more in the coming days. this is not going to stop or hold back french security
personnel from trying to root out any other cells, other plotters. just because abdelhamid abaaoud was killed 24 hours ago in paris doesn't mean there aren't many people vying to show what they have what it takes to make a very big impact here through extremely violent acting that will kill dozens or hundreds if not thousands of people. france is on alert still. this is not going to stop soon. there will be more security operations, more raised. it's likely the extension of the state of emergency will be continued because at least politically, it's a political and popular idea right now. >> this is a massive raid, up to 5,000 rounds of ammunition fired at that apartment complex that you were outside of last morning, police pointing their guns at you. describe for us the scene that they had to sift through in order to figure out exactly who this was that we now know was abdelhamid abaaoud.
>> we have seep pictures and video of this apartment building. it looks like an apartment from a war zone. the windows bombed out. we saw forensic investigators in complete white outfits with masks on combing through the rubble. some people were hiding in the rubble. who knows how they survived, but they were eventually arrested. it was at if the building had been the target of a military operation and indeed it practically was. there were security personnel, soldiers, police, this in a community about 20 minutes from where i'm standing. the whole building looked like it had been attacked with artillery, with high grade weapons and from all the sounds that were coming out of that building, people were responding with very heavy weaponry, as well. this was for all intents and purposes a paramilitary force that was able to receive it. i don't know every single weapon these people had, but they had heavy artillery. they were fighting back tanned it was a long standoff.
>> adam live in paris at this hour. we're going to let you go right now so you can get to the business of reporting. this news breaking, abdelhamid abaaoud is now dead. he is the suspect that was wanted and suspected of planning those attacks in paris, that massive attack. >> the english translation of the prosecutor's statement, the body was discovered in the building riddled with impacts. they used d.n.a. tracing to figure out that it was indeed what they believe is the master mind of the paris attacks on friday. abdelhamid abaaoud confirmed to be killed in the raised in saint denis yesterday. i want to bring in by phone from manchester the managing director for the killion foundation. harris, thank you for being with us. tell us what you can about abdelhamid abaaoud and his road to radicalization.
>> essentially what we have here is a person who suffered -- whether muslim or non-muslim suffering right now all around the world there is disenfranchisement and he was targeted specifically by people who believed that the only way that he could find any particular solutions to his problems was to join their gang. he traveled as part of that. he was known to the authorities. he traveled to the middle east. he went to iraq and syria and somehow managed to end up back in mainland europe. there are some reports that he actually forged his death and was able to come in with another passport and there are other people reporting sailing that he actually came in with his own passport, but either way, there was an has been a serious lack, if you like, flaw within the border controls. that's one of the reasons why france is asking for europe to
close or temporarily suspend the schengen visa, which allows people around mainstream europe and u.k. to travel freely without documents. there is concern that people who traveled to rack and syria and joined daish could well have come back via a route where controls aren't as they are in other countries. >> ahead in our next hour, the latest on a new round of raids taking place in europe overnight, as well as more details on this breaking news that the alleged master mind of the paris attacks has been killed. >> this linked the mafia and the church. >> why do you think you didn't get the medal of honor? >> i can't allow you not to go into that because that is
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>> good morning, welcome to a busy world this morning. >> we begin with the breaking news out of paris. the french prosecutor now says the suspected organizer of the paris attacks, abdelhamid abaaoud, is dead. he was killed in wednesday's security raids in saint denis. the prosecutor said his body was formally identified using d.n.a. samples. >> al jazeera is live in paris, adam was outside the scene in saint denis when that raid was taking place. what can you tell us of the confirmation of abdelhamid abaaoud's death? >> we've been looking into that right here. there was no d.n.a. testing, but it's also been confirmed more precisely with a very modern
fingerprint technology that the french are specialists in, that's what we're hearing from the prosecutor's office now. it clearly shows that perhaps facial recognition was not possible. this was a site where there were major explosions. they said yesterday, they told us that the man killed was killed with grenades and projectiles, a woman blew herself up at the scene. she is the suspected cousin of abdelhamid abaaoud, so the reason they had to rely on this technology to get some level of fingerprint off this body shows that whatever body that was left was quite destroyed and not that raisable by just vision and by looking at it alone. >> adam, this for the french was their osama bin laden. even though we're only talking about 24 hours, there seemed to be some frustration in paris. give us an idea why it took so long for officials to report that he was indeed dead.
>> well, it probably took about 24 hours for them to report that he was dead, because of this test they were conducting or it could have been they knew and they for whatever reasons, we can only speculate why the government wouldn't share that information earlier, but they perhaps knew and didn't share it. all we know is well into the night and early into the morning, you had french high ranking fiction and prosecutors saying we have not identified the body yet and just less than an hour ago, they have now identified the body, so it shows that that attack from their perspective was a successful one. it followed five days in which there was a sense of unease here, in paris about these two fugitive, now one, saleh abdeslam and we don't know if he is dead or where his whereabouts are, people heard that saleh abdeslam had been checked by police before crossing into belgium, that perhaps abdelhamid
abaaoud returned 249 past year back from syria. people were feeling that their country and security personnel were unable to offer protection for the average citizen, because they have this idea of terror suspects going in and out of the country without difficulty, thumbing their nose at the officials. the security raid, which was basically a military operation happening on the outskirts of paris was a successful one bid standards of people who they met their goal and hit their target. that will make people feel a little more confident in their security forces. they are well aware that there are going to continue to be lapses here, suspects are somehow going to get past authorities. we are talking about a free and open society, just as in the united states and rest of western europe, where people are used to getting around and not being bothered by police, now we have these emergency measures that are going to be passed by the senate any moment now. they already passed the lower house. people are going to give up some
of their civil liberties, they're going to have more presence of the military on police, more rights by police to search houses without warrant, detain people, put them under arrest without the ruling of a judge. the truth is the situation is not in control. the french are well aware of that but happy this successful raid is reported to have -- >> adam -- >> find, target and kill this aggravated leader of these attacks. >> adam on that note, i'm looking at the scene behind you. when osama bin laden was captured and killed, literally people in the united states spilled out into the streets, that were sporadic celebrations in the cities. has the news not trickled down that abdelhamid abaaoud has indeed been killed? >> no, people know everywhere around here, people are talking about it. i don't know if i've heard many french people call him
specifically their osama bin laden. of course, your comparison is a good one because these attacks are the worst attacks that have taken place on french soil since world war ii, but i don't think in the french imagination he represented the same thing that osama bin laden did, by blowing up these two icons of u.s. economic might, the word trade center, that was so dramatic and the hunt for osama bin laden so long that it created this sort of icon of evil in tent in the united states. this person wasn't really well known to most french people before this week, so the fact that he was caught, we have to say within less than a week, not caught, but killed, i'm sure has something to do with the fact that he's not so well known that we're seeing campaign corks going up in the street. that doesn't mean that the french don't feel a little safer and happier that this news is made public now. >> also this morning, we're getting a closer look at just
what happened nearly a week ago in paris that you heard adam talking about. this is the security video, chilling, first published by the daily mail showing the shooting of a cafe, the gunman straying the room with bullets and incredible luck of a woman escaping. the gunman held the weapon over her head. you can then see the woman getting up to run when the gunman was away. at least 14 died in those attacks at that cafe. >> next door in belgium, the prime minister is promising to put more than $400 million towards boosting security in that country. forces there are carrying out raids in connection with the paris attacks. al jazeera is live in brussels this morning. carl, as you know, abdelhamid abaaoud has been confirmed killed by the french authorities. he was from belgium. give us the latest on the security situation there.
>> as we know from the prosecutor's office, there were seven raised, some in the district we are now, some in the north of the capital and south of the capital. the belgian prosecutors are saying that one person has been arrested, although hasn't identified them and hasn't said whether that is a man or a woman, but in general terms, the prosecutor's office said that those raised were destined really to find out more about the life, the activities, and the network of acquaintances of a 20-year-old who was one of a jihadi hit squad. he blew himself up outside the stadium in paris, and the occasions are that they were looking to try to find out more about who else he may have had in his network of associates. following that continue that he made to syria earlier this year, what that also may suggest, as well is that the belgian authorities until the paris
attacks have been very slow in trying to pin down returning jihadis and what they have been up to. there are know on going operations focused on the whereabouts of saleh abdeslam, the only known surviving fugitive of that history squad and has managed to elude a massive manhunt for six days. >> he was born in brussels. the french parliament i also discussing emergency laws. how are politicians in belgium reacting to the heightened security situation and awareness of vulnerabilities there? >> today, we've been hearing from the belgian prime minister, saying that belgium now needs tougher new measures to try to deal with the potential gee ladi
threat. belgium in comparison to the size of the population has more foreign fighters that have left belgium to go to europe than anywhere else in europe. when people are arrested, they can be detained for 72 hours, extending the current period from 24 hours and also perhaps tagging suspects who may be on a watch list. all of that has to be voted by parliament. >> reporting from belgium, carl, thank you. >> we go now to republican canning man steve king who joins us from cat hill. thank you for your time. you probably heard the news that paris is confirming that the and would mastermind of the paris attacks on friday has been killed. what's your reaction? >> well, stephanie, i'm glad. i'm glad that he was one of the people that were killed in that raid, and i'm glad that we don't have to psycho analyze him or defy him or have his name be
smeared over the newspapers and the media and television over the next months, as trial would proceed. maybe there's information that he had in his head, but i think it's better just to get this done and say to the world this, that if isis is going to come into western civilization and try to kill us, however irrational that reasons is, there are hundreds of millions of us and we will eventually take care of them and every time they attack us in our homes, in our home communities in our home countries, that increases the intensity of the reason to go and eliminate the caliphates and the first place to do that is syria and iraq. >> you were in the region, actually, relatively recently and we took the liberty, i hope you don't mind, of lifting a couple of photos you ever on your twitter feed. you were in serbia recently and met with migrants, in iraq, and met with kurds there. i believe this is a picture of you with kurdish children near erbil.
i want to talk about these migrants. that is a major political discussion happening in this country. what did you talk to when you met these migrants? how did you approach them and what was the experiences they shared with you. >> if the pictures of the children i think are up on the screen, there are just a whole cluster gathered together. i walked among them just to chat with them. they don't understand me, but i understand them, but there's annal language that is part of just body language and a hand signal language. the little girl up on my shoulder was down in the middle of the crowd, we couldn't get her face in the picture, so i picked her up. i could have taken that whole group of kids home and over sunday, we could have described every one of them to the families in the community. they get to your heart. we have to step back and look at this objectively and ask ourselves, what are we trying to accomplish. can we bring all of the people out of the stressed areas of the world and move them to the united states and think we're helping either them or helping the world, but someone needs to be there to rebuild syria,
rebuild iraq, rebuild the areas that have been destroyed by the caliphates. i've been dealing with the syrian christians, with the caldians and remotely with the yazidis. they want an international safe zone. i know the kurds will agree to that. if the sunni arabs in iraq will agree and i think they will, that is an effort that can come together as a long-term solution that relieves this pressure of refugees. >> i want to go back to your discussions with the kurds in a moment but first want to ask you about this bill on the house floor today that is intended to intensify the vetting of sir i can't be reef gees in this country. i don't think anyone here is saying allow everybody in, but we're talking about some 10,000 syrian refugees that president obama has said he will allow in in the next fiscal year. are you supporting that bill in the house? >> i expect to vote no on it. i'm not in enthusiastic
opposition of it, but i want to send this message that this administration can't vet anybody. i've dealt with them for years on the southern border. they simply opened up the gates and turned the border patrol into the welcome wagon. >> the administration actually doesn't vet the refugees. the refugees are first vetted by the u.n. high commissioner on refugee affairs. they are determined to be refugees and vetted for two years. there are some eight syrians a week that get let through, that's how vig russian the vetting process is here. >> i can see your point, but i'd ask you also to consider my point that many of those coming out of the middle east don't have a legal existence in their own country, many of them if they do have when they leave syria, iraq and walk into europe, they tear up or throw away their identification and create a new one verbally at each point of entry. i've traveled this all the way through to sweden and back
again, hungary, croatia, serbia, iraq, kurdish region as close as i could get to the isis lines and there's no possible way. on top of that, even when the state department has brought people in from that part of the world, they have been radicalized here in the united states. it's a haystack of humanity and in that hay are the needles that are terrorists now that they can't discern from the hay and some of that will be radicalized into needles of terrorists, as well. >> where should the humanity be in the u.s. response to the syrian refugees. >> the humanity is in the blood of americans that have soaked the ground of that world. the humanity needed to be in the president of the united states when he decided not to leave
troops in that part of the world. we have to try with the president, a commander-in-chief that has no will and no will to do what must be done, what the world knowsust be done. if we're being pushed into this by a socialist president of france, i'm glad president hollande is doing that, but it's embarrassing to watch our president following a lead that he should be actually one out front. >> just a quick yes or no question and we have to get back to the breaking news out of paris. would you support the deployment of u.s. combat troops to fight isil in iraq or syria. >> i wouldn't say yes to that today, but i would say special forces on the ground with the kurds and soon arabs with unlimited air support will get the job done. let's try that first. >> we continue to follow that breaking news out of paris, the and would mastermind is now dead, 129 people killed in those attacks, 352 wounded. >> we're going to speak with an expert on stopping those kinds of attacks, next.
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saint denis at the very last check point, half a block away from where this very big gun battle took place. the detectives have had a gruesome job overnight. they are in there and i can see them now, three or four of them next to their police van and many more armed police. they have had to go in with bags to collect evidence, because the gunfire, the explosions, more than 20 police grenades thrown in there left very little that was immediately identifiable. that is why it took so long for the body of abdelhamid abaaoud to be positively identified. they say now from the prosecutor's office that they were able to do with it a fingerprint and indeed they got him. that is a major victory for the intelligence services here, who have been accused even in parliament today of being three and five steps behind these attackers that attacked paris so brutally on friday, so being able to at least not capture him, but locate him and kill him
and newt really aize him and probably avert another major attack in the heart of paris, because there was a lot of arms and ammunition in there, a very big victory for french intelligence at this point. i think just walking around here, people are bewildered, mouths open and somebody hung a sign on the barrier just in front of me saying thank you to the police for the risks they took. as you know, five policemen were injured in that, stephanie, so it's a very big victory for the police that they were able to get him and a sense of relief on the street that another fugitive is not on the run, but there are others, the bomb maker, some of the -- one of the brothers involved in the attack on friday night, so it's not done, but it's something positive, at least to people feel here. >> just trying to connect the dots here, because his cousin detonated a suicide vest that in same apartment, so do we know whether abaaoud was killed because of his proximity to his
cousin or by french authorities? >> i haven't heard from french authorities. the cousin exploded that vest about an hour and a half into it. there has been a tape released where the police yell through the door to her when they were unable to preach the steel door initially, they say where's your boyfriend, she answers back he's not my boyfriend and she starts firing with a kalashnikov rifle. she started yelling at police saying help me, help me, drawing them closer to her so she could fire on them. it would seem has how long abaaoud survived that gun batting we don't know, but part of the wall came down, part of the floor caved in so some of the people arrested were buried in the rubble. was he killed immediately in that bomb blast? very likely, but we don't know for sure. >> dana lewis reporting from the heart of saint denis where that
that is apocalyptic in their vision of killing as many westerners as possible, and therefore the talk among our public policy leaders about actually putting boots on the ground feeds into the very narrative that these people want to use in order to recruit and train and fits right into their narrative. >> is the world to act like world war ii londoners, when the bombs fall, they walk out, go shopping and put up their laundry? >> the world war ii narrative or world war three narrative the pope talked about saturday, this is not world war three. instead, we need to turn to paris and say this kind of policing operation that succeeded today is the model going forward, not world war three style, multi-national
campaigns. >> even though abaaoud is dead, they will be talking about the threat to washington and new york. is the west making a mistake when it comes to how it brands isil by showing the victories over and over again, but not their defeat? after all, only defeats are from target video from zone strikes and balling raids. >> we're making a strategic mistake showing this over and over again, we allow them to repackage it and saying they are very afraid of it, very very strung, we are your caliphate. neither is islamic, nor is it a state. they are a death cult and a terrorist organization. by repeating over and over again that they have so much land and that they're, you know, a giant
military force actually feeds within their narrative of keeping their population basically as slaves and the areas where they're located and that doesn't do us any good as far as counter terrorism goes. >> but how is -- >> there is far more concern -- go ahead. >> in the old days of war, the war was won by to quote one general, we kill more of them than they kill of us, the pentagon saying the 20,000 members of isil have been killed yet replaced by another 20,000 to 30,000. is that the message that society should be putting out? >> well, i think that isis is very concerned about losing their local population and the battle because they no longer have able fight either or people they can tax. if people start leaving the islamic state, they have no basis on which to repopulate
their ranks. we need to think about that these refugees coming tier, europe, to the united states are actually the very people who isis is trying to keep within their caliphate, so us saying we're bog to turn away refugees can be repackaged into their slick media presence and repurposed back on to the local population, saying look, they don't even want you, you better stay here and we know that in september and october, the islamic state spent massive amounts of resources trying to convince their local population to stay there, like we're going to give you money, we're going to make life better for you. and now, they have sound bites of leaders across the world saying they don't want people leaving the islamic state, they don't want refugees and that is the exact provocation that was intended in these paris attacks. >> it is not only a war of weapons, but a war of words.
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>> it is now 8:30, we continue to follow breaking news out of france this morning. the french prosecutor now confirming the suspected organizer of the paris attacks, abdelhamid abaaoud is dead. >> he was killed in wednesday's security raids in saint denis. the prosecutor said his body was formally identified using d.n.a. ample. abaaoud was initially believed to be in syria but after the attacks, french investigators realized he had managed to return to europe. adam is live in paris. what can you tell us about the confirmation of abaaoud's death? >> we know the totally blown out apartment was quite destroyed. they used a sophisticated way of getting his fingerprints off that, so may have also been using d.n.a. what we're hearing is that they relied on the sophisticated
fingerprinting process. that tells you they could not recognize the bodies in that apartment after this raid. it was a very, very intense operation. it lasted several hours. more than 5,000 rounds were fired, they were explosions. people in the area thought they were under attack before they realized that police were coming into the community. this but ail measures was a successful operation by the security personnel that were sent out there, hundreds of people, the military police, national police and about 24 hours after it ended, they confirmed that it was indeed abdelhamid abaaoud who was killed. there was also a woman who blew herself up at the scene and she i see thought that have been his cousin. >> what about reaction around you to this news, at dam? well, so far, i wouldn't call it muted, but i would not call it celebratory. we're in the heart of paris right in front of this memorial
to the victims of friday's attacks. people have been saying of course they think this is good news, but no one that we've spoken to has sounded what i would say celebratory. they have a little more faith that the security personnel will continue to carry out successful operations. many people want evidence gathered from these people. of course, it's successful that they killed abdelhamid abaaoud, allegedly, the architect of this attack, but people have told us and i imagine telling officers would want the chance to speak to this individual, but the truth is, they went in there, probably wanted to arrest him. they met an incredible amount of force. they had to respond, likewise with force that is the security personnel, and so it sounds like they did only what they could do, which is go in heavy and that led to the death of two people, if not a third. we've been hearing reports that possibly security personnel think a third person was killed, but so far, no positive identification of a third body,
and what they will be wanting to find out is if saleh abdeslam was killed in the attack. he is considered to be involved in friday's attacks. he is still at large. we know that he allegedly crossed into belgium in the days after the attack in a car that he was driving was found here in paris. >> there are on going raids there. thank you. >> let's go live to dana lewis. is there a sense that you heard adam talking about this third suspect, is there a sense that he may be in that rubble or have you been given any indication that anybody escaped? >> certainly in the initial hours after, there are the concern by security on the street, police were going into the crowd of journalists looking and they were concerned there was a runner, maybe they missed somebody. i think they don't know if saleh
abdeslam is in there or if he was still on the run at this point. just looking down at that crime scene, i now understand what has been going on there is that there is very little left inside that was -- that they could navigate. i'm trying to find a very diplomatic way to talk about a very gruesome crime scene that they could navigate quickly. 5,000 rounds fired was just by the police and the police at one point got so desperate trying to get in there, 20 grenades were in there, so there was absolutely nothing. there was a piece of spine blown up on to the window out to the road. they were in there, i could see them in full forensic suits with small bags collecting evidence. i think it's fortunate even in 36 hours, it's almost 36 hours that they've been able to come out with an i.d. of abaaoud and saleh abdeslam is still on the
run. >> tell us how close you are to the apartment complex where 5,000 rounds of ammunition, the standoff lasting seven hours, the firefight lasting an hour. >> the firefight went on sporadically after that. even though an hour and a half into it, the majority of the shots i can say were probably fired, it continued to go on after that. as you know, there were some team sometime hiding in the rubble in there. they were unsure and unable to enter as the believe started to collapse down around them. i am about a half a block away. the make that part of saint denis is open and very active and people are just walking from their stores, from their clothing stores, from the shoe stores and just walking up and staring over that barricade. some hung a banner thanking police. whether that represents the whole neighborhood, i think there is generally a sigh of relief that the french intelligence agency is accused of being so many steps behind
this attack on friday and the individuals they have known for sometime were able to track these guys down and take out to a major member at least in europe of isis. as a recruiter, abaaoud has been linked to a number of terrorist attacks. he seems to have crisscrossed back and forth if you believe his statements on some of the isis propaganda sites, crisscrossed back and forth under the noses of french intelligence officials constantly and he has boasted about it. >> dana lewis live by phone from saint denis. this video is about abaaoud and after that video, that is the thing that horrifies to many people, he is driving the truck dragging little bodies of enemy combatants behind him and those combatants had already been killed. >> joining us by phone is former f.b.i. profiler mary ellen o'toole. thank you for your time. you heard our reporter dana
lewis say there is a sigh of relief. i wonder from a perspective of intelligence is that what we should be breathing, a sigh of relief given that with him, the mastermind of paris probably took a lot of information and intelligence with him. >> yes, but still, the general public needs to have the opportunity to see a suction and to be able to have a sigh of relieve, because otherwise, you don't want to have this consistent sense of public fear and public panic, so people do need to breathe that sigh of relief and see that these are human beings and that they can strategically be taken down and psychologically, that's very important, and it's also very important to put the mental out to isis, because there's a very distinct message that at some level, many of them will be getting in this attack and the aftermath of this attack.
>> do you believe that abaaoud, who has been seen in videos for from began da and in magazines, do you believe that his death could inspire more attacks within europe? >> yes, i do. the simple answer to that is yes, i think that there will be people standing in line to replace him and that's the youthful glorified isis member perspective. the other perspective, the reality from the general public and what these youthful members don't understand is that they're really like in animate objects, like chess pieces that can strategically be knocked off the board and easily replaced by other people. that's the message that we need to put out there and not that you can have a glorified forever international state and martyrdom, because the reality of that crime scene, according to your reporter and i've been to many crime scenes is that it
is gruesome and when you have to go in and identify somebody, a full bodies human being using tiny little pieces through d.n.a. analysis, you have to identify them, that's a very strong statement, and if you want to die like that, that's not a glorified death. >> at this point, we do not know what killed abdelhamid abaaoud. we know that there were seven hours of gunfire, that a grenade was thrown by french authorities into the apartment and there were explosions, but we also know his cousin, a woman detonated a suicide vest. how important is that to the post narrative, how abaaoud was actually killed in this raid? >> i don't know that they'll ever be able to say with certainty, depending on the condition of the body. it sounds like the body was found in i'm sorry, but many different pieces, so they're not going to know with certainty if it was because of the explosives, if it was because of the gunfire, or if it was in part because of some kind of
blunt force trauma, so what they'll do is they'll have to probably more or less keep it open ended, because it could be a combination of all of those things. >> what do you think is important for us to be asking and learning about abdelhamid abaaoud and his accomplices, all of which at this point, fed rocca modrrini saying are european citizens? >> well, i think the messaging is very important and the reason that i say this is because this is a very youthful group of individuals, and they respond to messaging, and the messages of to be very distinct and they're going to be in great opposition to what this youthful band of young men are hearing, because they're hearing i can replace him, i can have this glorified international profile and the message that the media and the general public have to say is that you're only viewed as an object. you're easily replaceable,
you're strategically taken off, you will be part of a gruesome crime scene that doesn't lend itself to a forever international state of martyrdom, and i think that messaging has to be out there, along with the importance of when you have a group of military and law enforcement who are prepared to have a standoff with you for seven hours, that's a very powerful messaging, and i think we have to get on their level with the messaging. >> mary ellen o'toole, a former f.b.i. profiler joining us by the phone, thank you. >> again, the banner at the bottom of the screen tells it all, abdelhamid abaaoud is dead. we continue to follow the breaking news out of paris. >> the suspected organizer of friday's attack is dead. stay with us.
>> we're continuing to follow breaking news out of par requires. the french prosecutor says the suspected organizer of the paris attacks abdelhamid abaaoud is dead. >> prosecutors confirming he was killed in those raid's wednesday that took place in saint den necessary. they're also confirming that the woman who blew herself up during that raid was his cousin, as we have been reporting. we want to go to a specialist
and terrorism expert. we've been talking to several people about what happens next, the messaging on this, because messaging is very important to isil. should the mental to the west be if you join isil, there is a good chance you will die and death will not be pleasant? >> i think that fundamentally misses the point of what isil or daish is all about. if we stop thinking about them as another run of the mill terrorist organization and as an apocalyptic death cult, what they want is to die in the name of god, in the name of their brothers and sisters in arms. we need to not give them that narrative to them. instead, what we need to say is you aren't important. you are not part of an international movement. you are insignificant, but we need tomorrow that -- >> ant that just -- >> go ahead. >> isn't that whichful thinking because we live in a world where if somebody walks into a theater
and it doesn't matter whether or not they're a member of a terrorist organization or lone wolf gunman who decides he wants to do something to get his 15 minutes of fame, how do you not report what happened in france, how do you not report what happened in aurora, colorado or mass killings we have seen so much of in these recent days and years? >> the media indeed needs to report on these organizations and attacks but there's also a different audience. the audience that we need to be thinking about and interlocutors are modern imams who could take the message and say you are not going to be part of something interesting, not going to be part of something that will glorify you in the after life. those are the people who need to step up the conversation with would-be radicals, not counter terrorism officials here in the united states, because they're not going to listen to them. >> i just wanted to weigh in,
have you weigh in on this question of religion and how much that should be emphasized. you are saying it is the responsibility of imams and clerics. we have been talking to another guest, also a terrorism expert, although based in london. also he says these people are radicalized before they even get to religion and beyond that, as i've been reading about the profiles of a lot of these isil suspects, oftentimes, they just started with petty crime. is the focus on religion really the way to go? >> well, it is an after the fact kind of thought process. these people that are joining isis may not even be koran literate. they may not speak very good arabic. what we see in the profile is these people are isolated from socio political, from economic interconnections, so they may not have jobs, may not have a lot of friends. they may be orphans from prior conflict. we see that over 50% of those
foreign fighters going and joining isis actually already have a brother, a sister, a cousin, who are there all right, and then they become radicalized, not because of religion necessarily, but just because of these familiaral or friend like connections. jihad is kind of an after the fact justification, so what we need to do in the west is build institutions that actually integrate would be jihadists first and get jobs for them, integrate them into the economic and socio political wins and rejecting refugees, closing down borders are not the way to do that. >> mr. day, thank you very much. >> i want to go back out to al jazeera's adam rainy live in paris. the french parliament has been meeting throughout the day. talk about what lawmakers are doing in response to the
attacks. >> indeed, they've basically extend are for three months the state of emergency that's been in effect since friday. let's take a look at what that means. what it does mean is that so far, more than 100,000 security forces have been mobilized, not just in paris, but across the whole country. french people aren't so used to seeing soldiers on the street, but with this state of emergency, will see the military out as well. school trips are being canceled. students will be banned from taking public transport on field trips, as well. that may not sound that important to an american audience in a country where not nearly as many people take public transportation, but in paris, a city, greater paris where more than 10 million people, most kids go on field trims on public transportation. there are going to be titler borders, more checks at bus stations and airports. they keep saying that.
when my team came through, we had the same experience of keying cursory border checks. some people's passports weren't looked at. mine was looked at only fast enough for the personnel to know i was coming with a u.s. passport. they're going to have warrantless searches of homes and also the power of house arrest. that's without a judge signing off on it. again, they will be able to ban protests in public and france is a country where people like to protest. we're not hearing a lot of complaints about this, but if this goes on for much longer, people are not going to be happy about every point of this state of emergency. >> adam reporting from paris, thank you. >> the main suspect may have been captured and killed,ing but the threat still continues. police in new york city saying they are aware of that new isil video that promises even more attacks over images of manhattan, police insisting though there is no specific threat to the city. they also point out that most of
the footage in the video is not new. there are images of times square mixed in with a video of a man zipping his jacket over a suicide belt. we choose not to show the video. then you see him in the video building an explosive device. >> there is, as we have repeated frequently, no city in america that is better prepared to defend and protect against a terrorist attack. we work tirelessly to ensure that, continuously, upgrading capabilities in our systems. >> we are getting a closer look at what happened nearly a week ago in paris. this is security video first published by the daily mail, showing the shooting at a cafe. you can see people diving for cover as the gunman sprays
bullets. a woman escapes. he held the weapon over her head and it jammed. you can see the woman getting up to run, the gunman moves away, at least 14 of the people killed in those attacks dying in that cafe. >> you can only imagine the trauma those survivors are experiencing. we continue to follow the breaking news from paris. >> the reported death of the alleged architect of the paris attacks.
we continue to follow breaking news out of paris. >> the french petitioner said the suspect organizer of the paris attacks, abdelhamid abaaoud is dead. the prosecutor said he was killed wednesday in the raid in saint denis. they confirm the woman who blew herself up during the raid was his cousin. >> leaders are looking at better protecting citizens. one is the use of networks of sensors and cameras. we look at the new technology. >> a ripple of gunfire, recorded and identified by smart rooftop sensors. they are sent within seconds to the police. >> this is kind of interesting here. this is an accumulation of gunfire vents over the last 30 days. >> along with precise details of the shooting. the technology is in use in 90 cities, mostly in the u.s., part
of an effort to combat gun crime. european cities now considering how it can be used to help them respond to threats in much the same way a fire alarm works. >> they are clearly engaged in some gun play, testing this weapon out here. >> the particular case of the paris attacks, our technology could effectively be that fire alarm for gun shoots, allowing officials a get there sooner and mitigate the consequence of on going engagement of an active shooter. >> coupled with software, cameras have been developed to track people's movements either in vehicles or in this example, when someone is seen leaving a package on a rooftop. >> cameras are fast becoming the tools of choice for many of the world's city, but they come with
a trade-off. the citizens in those cities have to ensure that any loss of privacy is offset by the city becoming a safer place to live. >> for some, that balance that not been achieved with cities too quick to install new technology and yet to see useful results. >> we focus so much on mass surveillance, just putting everyone under surveillance. we have lots of date that that is not necessary, not needed from people who are completely law abiding. there's no reason for governments to get their data, but we take the money out of traditional techniques that would identify persons who do pose a risk. >> making sure it is analyze in an effective way is a major challenge, one cities around the world are contemplating as they seek to keep they are citizens
safe. >> we continue to follow the breaking news out of france. the alleged master mind behind the paris attacks is dead, abdelhamid abaaoud is dead. they maintain the suicide bomber, the woman who blew herself up was his cousin. >> some french citizens may be breathing a sigh of relief, but there is still at least one final active from the attacks on friday that is not accounted for, saleh abdeslam, a citizen of belgium. we have across in belgium and paris covering breaking developments. for now, that is it for us here in new york. i'm stephanie sy. >> coming up from doha, the very latest on the death of the suspected otherwiserring of the paris attacks. >> your world is back tomorrow beginning at 7:00 a.m. eastern. for the latest news at any time, go to our website at aljazeera.com. have a great day. at day.