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turkey-syria border show a russian war plane on fire and crashing after it was shot down of night by a turkish jet and both pilots ejected right now and russian helicopters searching for one of them, the other is believed to be dead and welcome to your world this morning i'm stephanie sy. >> i'm del walters. >> and it crossed in the air space and issued a number of warnings and moscow says it can prove they stayed over the skies of syria and we will have more but first to moscow and rory challenge and how is russia reacting to this latest news? >> well, the russians choosing their words very carefully. it's interesting listening to what they have been saying over the last couple hours or so. the official response has come from first the defense ministry and then the kremlin. what they have been saying first of all is as you have just mentioned that this plane according to the russians never
left is syrian air space. the other thing they said is at least initially are operating from the assumption that this plane was shot down from the ground and what they have not done as of yet is pinned this specifically on the turkish military and it's almost as if the russians are trying to avoid acknowledging this has a potential to be a serious diplomatic incident and something they might have to change eventually but at the moment that is the message they are sticking to. >> what can this do to the turkish-russian relationship? >> this is the thing if you are looking to the kremlin spokesperson he says it's too soon to say if this is going to have any impact on russian, turkish relations and he says that yes there was a plan for sergei fedorov the russian foreign minister to go to turkey on wednesday to talk about various things including syria,
will that still go ahead? well he didn't know and said it should be referred to the russian foreign minister and as of yet they have not commented so i think the russians are trying to workout at the moment how they can contain this, how they can stop it from becoming a bigger issue than they would like it to be. >> delicate balancing act and what about the new effort of paris attack trying to get a united coalition together to fight i.s.i.l., how will this incident effect that? >> it's unclear at the moment and it is postal that it might have little effect on that because that will be difficult to do for other reasons, the primary reason that will be hard to do is both the russians and the united states have no agreements at the moment on what is the crucial thing, the fate of president bashar al-assad and the russians would like it to stay, the americans said repeatedly he should go.
until there is some kind of meeting of minds between the russians and the united states on that crucial issue there is going to be very little chance that any kind of grand coalition to take on i.s.i.l. can get beyond a very limited tactical level in syria. >> that is rory alcohol -- joining us from moscow. >> turkey near the syrian border and why were russian planes in that area? >> we don't know at this particular moment whether they were engaged in a military campaign against syrian opposition or i.s.i.l., the turkish army issued a statement saying the first warning to the fighter jet 15 kilometers before it got into the turkish air space and then sent another
warning and then ten warnings and ten warnings were ignored and took action and shot down the plane. it fell down in an area under the control of the rebels and some factions operateing on the ground said they seized the body of one of the pilots who was incidentally killed in that particular area. >> just to be clear who the players are, russia is not only targeting i.s.i.l. in turkey it is also targeting rebel groups, in some cases supported by the united states why else would turkey be concerned with what turkey is doing near that border area? >> different reasons. one of the reasons is that turkey has been saying what exactly the americans have been saying in the past few weeks and they believe the russian military intervention is not
necessarily to take on i.s.i.l. but to pave the ground for the syrian army to stage a come back and to take some of the strategic positions and what it lost over the last four years, at the same time the turks have been saying that they would like to see the russians engage in a political dialog that would pave the way for new syria without bashar al-assad, a syria where the moderate syria opposition would take over and the turks have been saying they believe the russians are using the fight against i.s.i.l. as a smokes screen and that, in fact, they are noted as basically to strengthen bashar al-assad and talking about huge areas on the border with turkey where the russians have been operating with their fighter jets and it's a concern that the turks are concerned about, some of the russian ambassador from a few days ago in the capitol ankara
warning against continuing air strikes near the border with turkey and saying if these air strikes continue serious situation will follow. now what we see today is a sign of the further escalation in the region. >> now you talk about escalation and you wonder whether what rory reported is the russians are not fingering down the turks for shooting down the plane and if the russians are trying to deescalate and nato has just called what they call an extraordinary meeting after this incident, will this further strain ties with russia in the region? >> turkey has the second largest army in nato and it's a usual ally for nato and therefore the whole nato is has this mutual defense agreement but this is something that is definitely now
putting pressure on the international community to try to step in and find a way out of the crisis because stephanie the problem that you have right now in syria and iraq you have different key players acting and fighter jets pounding different groups, different areas for different agendas, different motives and different strategic gains and sometimes it gets jammed to the point for potential incidents like the one we saw today could be replicated in the near future and why the nato and russians and turks will have to agree on a protocol and rules of engagement in the near future to prevent further escalation but i don't think they will be able to come up to an agreement unless they agree on how to move forward in syria and what is going to be the fate of bashar al-assad and whether the syrian moderate groups some of them are backed by the americans are the one whose are going to take over if assad sets
aside or steps aside. >> reporting near the turkish-syrian border and thank you. stephanie russia first began flying the two engine and two seats jet back in 1967, the bomber is manufactured in moscow. it can be armed with several types of surface to air missiles and the code name for the super sonic jet is fencer and russia is not the only government flying this type of fighter the syrian yanukovich t libyan and ukraine all fly the su 24 as well and stay with us as we continue to follow the developments of the shooting down of a russian jet along the syrian border and following those developments through the morning. news from turkey is likely to be part of the discussions at the white house where president obama is meeting with miss counterpart francois hollande and francois hollande trying to build a stronger coalition
regarding i.s.i.s. from the par 'tis attacks and adds to the tension in the region is what we are hearing but what are you hearing about this incident? >> it certainly does and al jazeera america learned from a u.s. defense official they have heard from turkish allies about this shooting down of the russian jet and the wording here is specific the military jet was shot down near the syrian border after it violated turkish air space and the u.s. official says no u.s. military aircraft were involved in this incident at all. this certainly does add to the urgency of today's meeting between french president francois hollande and president obama. and president francois hollande comes to the meeting with aggressive stance and hoping to walk away with some assurances from the president of the united states not just of an alliance, of a cooperation but of some substance. a relationship centuries old, u.s. leaders have called france
america's oldest ally. >> our oldest friend and first ally. >> reporter: the statute of liberty a statute of that friendship and francois hollande is asking the international currenty to work together in the wake of this month's attacks in paris. >> translator: these actions confirm once again that we are at war. a war against terrorists who themselves brought war to us. >> reporter: the paris attacks thrusting france and francois hollande in the center of the fight against i.s.i.l. >> he is taking a much greater role and much greater leadership within this international community. >> reporter: francois hollande may call for more weapons in the hands of rebels. and information sharing about syrian targets. >> intelligence has only been shared after the paris attacks and this is what allowed france to under take these strikes against raqqa.
>> reporter: and the scholar said francois hollande would like to but noted with president obama before the french leader's next stop russia. >> don't forget after washington francois hollande is moving to moscow and this will probably be the most important part of the visit, of the trip and this is why also i think that what francois hollande is expecting is to really have a clear pledge by his president counter or his american counterpart president barack obama to really have a firmer stance on the next meeting's agenda with the russians. >> reporter: talks of the future what's a major impasse the future of president bashar al-assad who russia wants to keep in power and french remember 2013 when president obama backed off threatening assad despite his use of chemical weapons. >> we have been very clear to the assad regime but also to other players on the ground that
a red line for us is we start seeing a whole bunch of chemical weapons moving around or being utilized and that would change any callus and question. >> reporter: learning from that red line france is now intent on building coalition, not just with its long time american ally but other nations concerned about i.s.i.l. stephanie of course the french president meets this week not only with president obama and the russian president vladimir putin and meets with angela merkel and hoping to get all the players on board but watch today for president obama to have concerns about working with the russians, certainly not interested in making concessions regarding sanctions or activity in ukraine as part of a broader syria deal. >> and of course this incursion into turkish air space may play into that and libby at the white house and we will carry the president obama and francois hollande's news conference at 11:30 this morning. >> the explosive belt near paris
that didn't have a detonator but did contain the same as used by the bombers in the par paris attacks and still looking for salah abdeslam and brussels shut down four the fourth straight day for a serious and imminent threat and may relax the highest alert level and could reopen tomorrow. >> warning americans traveling over seas to be careful and threats from i.s.i.l., al-qaeda and boko haram and the other groups and should be vigilant when attending large public gatherings including at stadiums and theatres. >> meeting with leaders today on condemning a resent wave of attacks there and kerry meeting this hour with israeli president and kerry met in jerusalem just a little earlier this morning with prime minister benjamin netanyahu and kerry calling on both sides to work together to
ease that violence. >> acts of terrorism which have been taking place deserve the condemnation that they are receiving and today i express my complete condemnation for any act of terror that takes innocence lives and disrupts the day-to-day life of a nation. >> earlier today a palestinian driving his car into a group of israeli soldiers and the police say the driver was shot and wounded, at least 92 palestinians and 16 israelis killed in attacks in the past few months and an american died as well. in texas a military helicopter crashed and all four soldiers on board died and the army says the helicopter was on a routine training mission. a shooting in minneapolis and five were shot on a place where hundreds gathered for days and say they are angry over the
shooting death of a black man by an officer there and all injuries are called nonlife threatening and still unclear what prompted the shooting or if there was any connection to the protest. just ahead we will continue to follow this morning's breaking developments along the syrian border with turkey, shooting down a russian fighter jet. also awarding the metal of freedom and a man who fought in what were called the fish wars. ♪
and at the hudson institute and specializes in affairs and joins us from washington d.c. and thanks for being with us, the downing of this russian jet how does this complicate things in an already complicated scenario? >> well, one complicated thing in the first place was russian intervention in syria to shore up the regime of bashar al-assad which is russia's ally in syria and which significantly can train the options in syria and areas that the european and americans were thinking about such as establishing a no fly zone and russia made it more complicated. the border between russia and turkey has been one of the hot spots of the conflict from the start between syria and turkey i mean one of the hot spots of this conflict. this is where the border to which jihad coming from europe and coming back afterwards to
fight and strike the european soil as happened last week, that is where they go through, this has been also a major area of transfer for weapons and i mean it's very urgent to try to find a way to secure this border. >> fascinated you mentioned that no fly zone, several presidential candidates have been talking about just that that there needed to be a no fly zone on that turkish border of syria, is this an example of exactly what could have happened if there had been a no fly zone with russia flying in the region and u.s. aircraft flying in the region and turkey trying to protect its borders? >> i mean, we don't have a no fly zone today and this is an accident or confrontation that we have right now, i think on the contrary we should have been able to establish some sort of buffer or safe zone in the area. the turks have been doing and pressuring europeans to act and let's be honest they have been
less regarding on who goes through this border especially as also a way to pressure europeans and americans who try to establish safe zones in this area. >> and we are looking at that graphic and the red is of course that russian jet that was released by the turkish military, it clearly would show and encourage and what the turkish government feels. i want to talk about that meeting between president obama and french president francois hollande and this is alliance that goes back to the park across from the white house named lafayette and it has been strained at times and members of congress says they will only eat freedom fries as opposed to french fries so will francois hollande get what he wants coming to washington? >> well, francois hollande comes to washington after the tear terrorist attack that struck paris and washington and moscow and his objective is to create a grand coalition to fight i.s.i.s.
there has been frustration among french policy makers over the last few years of lack of u.s. decisive action on the syrian issue and saying one of the turning points was actually two years ago when the famous red line established by president obama on the use of chemical weapons against the syrian population was crossed by president assad. the french president said very clearly he would be on the side of the united states and has already given orders to french jets to strike and obviously we saw this about face in the last-minute by president obama so there has been frustration and now that europe has become a new front for the syrian war with a terrorist threat and flow of refugees europeans clearly want the united states to be more involved. i don't know to what extent president obama will answer these calls and see a lot of reluctance on his part to get dragged into the conflict and he accelerated the share of intelligence actually sharing of
intelligence that will last a few days especially to help the french ramp up their strikes against i.s.i.s. in raqqa but clearly what the french would like to see is the united states more involved and also finding a political resolution to the conflict. >> one thing i want to get in before we run out of time is alliance he wants there to be between moscow and washington but now we have this situation with the turkish shooting down a russian jet. it's a thicky-wicket. >> it was complicated from the start because the french also know we don't share the same strategic objective as the russians, the russians saying they are fighting and most of the air strikes as you know have been focused on other groups like the armies and other groups that are threatening regime of assad and major disagreement on one hand the french and united states and russia on the fate of
president assad and even beyond this incident with the turkish border and even yesterday he was in iran to gain support for president assad, yeah for iran and president assad and he mentioned again yesterday in iran. but there is a risk that europeans will see russia as the only option, as the only alternative in the face of your international in syria, that is one of the risks of this week. if president obama does not announce a more forceful action, more forceful u.s. president on the syrian issue europeans will only see putin as the only remaining option. >> so there is a lot riding on this meeting and benjamin from washington d.c. and thank you very much. del 17 americans awarded the
highest civilian honor today the presidential honor of freedom and one is a native american activist who fought for tribal rights and al jazeera has the story of the man who helped win the fish wars. >> this is where the game warden has come down on all of us for fishing right here and you know i was 14 when i got arrested right here. >> reporter: early last year on the banks of the nesquali frank junior and long time activist frank adams gave me a history lesson. >> i kept getting arrested, went in the marine corps in 52, got out in 54, started going back to jail again. >> reporter: months before his death he looked back at the fish wars a century ago. >> fighting fish wars right and left all the time and just you know we beat the hell out of them guys. we had halroid bringing a load of rocks, just the right size
and them guys would come up the river with their boats and we would pepper them right here. >> reporter: it was a fight for treaty rights for a way of life for the right to harvest salmon. >> we had a treaty with the united states in 1916 and that treaty was wrote up for use of the custom and started writing lands against us and said it is army land and game warden watched us everyday, 24 hours a day. we just kept going fishing. and there were six of us who kept going back to jail, you know, 60 days, 30 days, contempt of court you know. >> reporter: their fight finally landed in federal court where frank and other activists won a landmark decision
guarantying broad fishing rights. >> i think everybody listened to billy and i think they took his message to heart. >> reporter: photographer and film maker mark anderson of the tribe who documented native american life in the northwest for decades says that victory will never be forgotten. >> billy will live forever. he was one of the people that pointed out to all the other tribal members that if we stand up and we stay together we are going to get there, we are going to protect the fish. >> reporter: billy frank junior honored with america's highest save yanukovich award. did you ever think of stopping fishing? >> no, hell, no. you know i mean our whole life is about salmon. >> reporter: he said before he died he wanted to be remembered simply as a fisherman. history will tell a bigger story. allen with al jazeera, washington. continuing our top story a nato called what it called an
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only on al jazeera america. >> welcome back to your world this morning. it is 7:30 eastern, taking a look at today's top stories. >> french president francois hollande will be at the white house for talks with president obama, the paris attacks and war against isil on the top of the agenda. >> turkish officials say a russian plane came into their air space and was repeatedly warned. it was shot down. nato has called and extraordinary emergency meeting to talk about it. we are joined now by phone with the response from the pentagon. good morning, what are they saying? >> the pentagon confirms it has
been notified by turkey, which of course is a nato ally at a turkish military aircraft shot down that russian plane, which turkey said violated turkish air space and was repeatedly warned. they said turkey has released a detailed radar path of the plane and says that basically they gave warn ins every 30 seconds for about five minutes to the plane to leave turkish air space and then turkey said its f16's fired on the plane, a two seater russian fighter plane was involved in bombing this area just fort of the northern part of syria just south of the turkish border. russia as you said has said has the plane did not violate turkish air space, but this has been a long running bone of contention between turkey and airplanes coming out of syria.
just last month, turkey shot down the drone, believed to be a russian drone, and this case, they also had asked for the pentagon to provide the u.s. to provide additional airplanes to patrol that air space. u.s. dispatched a half dozen f.15s to help turkey control its air space. we are told to no u.s. planes were involved in this action that the shootdown was conducted by turkish f-16s. stephanie. >> when we talk about the number of players on that turkish syrian border, we are talking about u.s. jets, russian jets, syrian air force jets and that area of deconfliction. in this area of turkey, we are not talking about that, we are talking about an intentional shooting down of this jet by russian fighter jets, correct? >> by turkish fighter jets. >> right. >> this is a sovereign air
space. this is an area where by the way, you don't want to stray out of the air space. syria has had some of its. syria fleiss these planes from russia and has had one shot down by turkey. turkey has in turn had one of its planes, an f4 shot down by syrian jets two years ago with that israel has also shot that down a syrian jet. this is an area people know are very tense borders and you can't fly into other people's air space, especially the air space of a nato ally. turkey is concerned because they believe the russian jets that were bombing in this area of northern sir were not targeting isil targets, but targeting these turkman village, turkman are the syrians of turkish who live in the area near that border with turkey, so were already upset about the air
cover for syria in that area. you mentioned turkey being a nato ally, has the full support of the alliance behind it, and the idea that a nato ally could shoot down a russian plane obviously makes it a serious situation. >> to be clear, the fighter jet, the russian jet did go down over the turkman mountains, so you wonder if that is part of turkey's calculation in shooting down this jet. what do you think this could do to build the efforts of this so-called grand military coalition against isil? francois hollande is in washington today to talk to obama about that very issue. >> i can tell you there's no interest at the pentagon and among u.s. mill stare leaders into getting into an alliance with russia and rememberedding legitimacy to its air campaign in syria. the u.s. has complained very loudly about the russian bombing
tactics. they're what the u.s. claims is a lack which reward for civilians on the ground. they've labeled the campaign reckless and irresponsible, says that r.b.i. routinely uses unguided munitions and is causing many civilian casualties, and as i said, primarily not bombing isil targets, but going after opposition posts. right now, the u.s. has no plans into getting into an aerial alliance with russia and this incident is just going to underscore that. >> jamey macintyre reporting on the phone, thank you. >> nato calling an emergency meeting and turkey officials ordered that meet with nato over air space on going issues with russia. we have a report from brussels. how extraordinary is a meeting like this? >> well, it's incredibly rare
indeed. there's only been a handful of these extraordinary meetings of the north atlantic council in the entire 66 year history of the nato alliance. the last time was on july 28. once again, at the request of turkey. back then, that meeting was called precisely to discuss the security risks posed by isil. now, once again, at the request of turkey, another extraordinary meeting of the north atlantic council to discuss the ramifications of the apparent incursion of this russian jet into turkish air space, because of course one of the founding principles of the nato alliance is in article four that an assault on one should be seen as an assault on all. incursion into turkish air space should be seen as an incurring into nato air space, too.
this meeting is expected to take place at 600g.m.t. and attended by all permanent member states permanently based here. they have seenor military personnel and leading figures within the nato alliance. >> all taking place against the backdrop of a city that for four days has been on lockdown. turkey wants to talk about the on going problems with russia over the air space with syria. what could possibly come out of these meetings? >> i think what will probably come out of this will be a show of solidarity, a reassertion of as i mentioned some of the guiding and founding principles of the nato alliance that bind all those 28 nations together. they are also going to have to reconsider some of the security implications for this, as well.
this is of course not the first time that they have the accusations against russia that russian jets have jib occurred into turkish air space. early on in the yearn october, when russia first started hitting targets within syria, there were two accusation of in curses. the first is when a fighter briefly entered turkish air space and they be shortly after that, a russian jet, according to turkish officials locked on to turkish jets that were patrolling the border. the first of these apparent incursions, russia says was an accident, but a response from nato was one of disbelief. now that this incident has happened, it's really changed the situation completely, heightened tensions now between nato and russia, and of course, security implications will have to be discussed in full when
ministers meet a bit later on. >> joining us by phone, neve thank you. >> we're going to switch gears for a minute for the latest on the presidential campaign trail, where there is pushback against two republican candidates, donald trump and ben carson. both claim they saw a video of seeing muslims cheering the u.s. attacks. there is no such evidence of anything being broadcast on television. trump insisted that he saw it. trump's anti refugee comments are now starting to show up in campaign ads of some rivals. i want to bring in ryan mack, the president of optimum management and called for a boycott of businesses associated with donald trump. ryan, thanks for being with us. you're not the only one calling for a boycott. the daily beef editor said
anyone who doesn't business with donald trump is supporting racism and neofascism and that his businesses should be boycotted. do you think this will make any difference in his steady and clear lead among voters? >> i don't believe because of the visible portion of the electorate that is uninformed and quite frankly racist, i don't believe it is going to make a difference in his political lead especially with his base. his base is there and is going to be there. as a society, we should speak out against those underserved, those essentially call out for racist undertone. when university of missouri, i've been picketing against those who are racist as campaigns at many colleges for years when i was a college student, but it took for the missouri football players to lock arms and say you know what,
we are not going to play, therefore taking away millions of dollars in revenue from your university in order for the president of that university to have to step down. it might not make a difference in political candidacy but will certainly make a difference to fulfilling our obligation as a society oh to call out those that are racist, separatists, even cluesist. >> i wonder since these recent comments he made about muslims and refugees on top of other comments he has made about mexican immigrants, whether you've seen your movement object facebook gain more steam. >> well, i mean, a lot of individuals have come on both sides. it's a very visceral discussion. those who are for donald trump, there's no fact, no logic that could ever displace someone for being donald trump. he has said he's going to take jobs from china, japan and mexico, never said how.
he said he's going to round up 11 million individuals who are here illegally. he hasn't said how. he just said i'm going to use good management. they are not using facts or logic. on the other side, individuals like myself against this sort of racist and blatantly separatist type of language, we have an obligation to speak out against that. >> just a quick question. is it possible, you called the electorate uninformed and racist in your first abc here. i wonder if some support trump in spite of his racism because they support his policy proposals on taxes and immigration. >> first of all, his policy on taxes are oh joke. he hasn't said how he said going to pay for it other than taking jobs from mexico, china and japan, hasn't said anything of substance or tangible. you've got a personal, many parts of the personality that individuals agree with a. you have individuals who are
very angry at the lack of productivity in american government. i'm one of them. it hasn't been as productive as it should be. hasn't been forthright in trying to carry out plans, get over partisanship and move this country forward. those individuals are uninformed and don't care about facts and logic and are enraged in the level of racism he's been showing. >> brian mack, i apologize, we'll have to leave it there. thank you. >> a federal families court striking down a controversial abortion law in wisconsin, the law required abortion providers to have admitting privileges at nearby hospitals. the judge said that is an unconstitutional restriction on abortion. the u.s. supreme court could decide the issue nationwide. >> parts of california expect rain this week, but it will do to end the state's monumental drought now in its fourth year.
the patched land isn't stopping plans to build a new town in one of the dryest parts of north america. >> sand, shrubs, dry and desolate. some see this stretch of desert as inhospitable, just as nature intended. others see an opportunity to build big. 8500 new homes, schools, restaurants and retail. >> we're standing on the northern boundary of the proposed paradise valley development, which is in essence a new city. >> it's a proposed new development in one of the fastest growing regions in california. picture a place like this, palm springs, once a barren brown desert, too. the valley's development boom in the midst of the state's severe drought is unsettling for i don't think time resident john.
>> before we talk about new developments, we need to do a better job of just handling what we have. we need to live within our means. >> one of the dryest place ins north america, it gets water from a large underground aquifer, imported water from the state and the colorado river. these supplies don't last forever. >> there are plenty of opportunities for growth and development within the existing urban areas of the co chill la valley, more than enough for the next 60 years. to build a new city out here is just something that is just not really feasible. >> the district was recently fined by the state of california for missing its water reduction rate by 9%. >> the development will be built
on the northwest shore of the salten sea. it was approved by the count of riverside. juan perez is head of water management. >> our water districts are indicating that over the period of time that there will be that can be provided to the site. >> how do you trust in the water districts to there's enough water for these developments when they're missing mandatory restrictions now. >> we do rely on them. >> can you trust them, though? >> we certainly have a strong relationship with the water district, and they have shown us over time that they are very cognizant of their supplies. it's important to keep in mind that these projects we are talking about in some cases may build out over many, many decades. >> transforming the desert into lush thirsty cities is part of
the frontier spirit that built the valley and and the likely to slow down, even as the promise of more water could be difficult to keep. cochilla voluntarily, california. >> we are following several major stories. there is a huge storm system that will affect traveling out west. >> and could bring rain as far south at southern california. here's the system already. we started watching this come onshore yesterday. higher elevations, we have areas of snow and that's going to be snow with high winds. we have areas of ice, places like on the washington oregon border that is cricky. >> you want to be careful traveling. these are all the different places, the brighter purposes. these with the winter storm warnings. this goes into parts of california and the rain heads farther south than that. great news for the ski resorts, but not for the travel. here is today, and then as we get into the next couple, this is on the move.
this is also bringing in much cooler air for the northwest to follow what we've already had in other pores of the country. through the course of the day today, this continues to move interior. by tomorrow, some of that initial moisture hits the midwest and this is two days, so this is thanksgiving, a large core of moisture through the central united states, an area of ice and behind that, more of this snow. we're going to have travel troubles as we get through the negligent couple of days. this is wednesday and then thursday, very wet, stormy, snowy for some of our big hubs, even like chicago. >> that bears watching, nicole mitchell, thank you. >> the bat toll remove a former president, woodrow wilson's names from buildings p.m.
school. his teacher thought it was a bomb. he was detained, then suspended. the attorney said muhammed and his family were traumatized by what happened. >> protestors are demanding the name of the school's most famous leader be removed from school buildings. they say it has to do with his racist past. john henry smith has the story. >> prince to that is reviewing its naming policies after this, students led by the school's black justice league occupied the office of school president for nearly three full days last week. >> at this moment, we are choosing to remain in that hall until all three of our demands are met in full. >> chief among their demands is that the name woodrow wilson be removed from the famed school of public affairs and from another complex. he was president of the united states, but he was also an
avowed segregationist who praised the ku klux klan. while he was in charge, no black students gained admission to prince to that. he systematically removed black officials from the federal government. after negotiations with the student protestors, princeton's president released a statement about wilson, saying "while much of his record had a very positive impact on the shaping of modern princeton, his record on race is disturbing. as a university, we have to be open to thoughtful reexamination of our own history." >> black princeton students say the prominent presence of wilson's name is one of the factors that makes them feel unwelcome. >> there are many instances where i questioned my presence here, felt uncomfortable in my black identity. >> this comes at a time when other schools are reexamining the complicated legacies of the people behind the names on their buildings. george town is taking the names
of slave openers off two buildings and clemson is considering a similar move. starting next semester, princeton officials say their board willis to the opinions of the entire prince to be community before making a decision. >> along with considering removing president wilson's name, princeton officials will implement a cultural training program for all faculty and staff and set aside a dedicated space on that campus for just black students. >> what is the argument against strubing the legacy? >> the name is a brand name of sports that has meaning in the marketplace and to many graduates. number two, the slippery slope argument. where does it all end? it's difficult, critics will argue to find a great person who's legacy is not tarnished. >> his legacy is huge as far as the league of nations.
>> let's talk about baseball diplomacy. on the field in cuba where one of cuba's best clubs walk away with a 2-1 win against penn state monday. it was an exhibition game and marks the thaw in relations between cuba and the united states. >> residents are struggling with seoul's new slogan, i seoul you. no one knows what it means. >> i seoul you. i don't get it. is this a joke. >> it inspires countless memes like this one. a competition is launched for the best parody. >> i think it's supposed to be like i heart you.
>> i love new york. >> turkey shooting down that russian fighter near its border with syria. >> president obama hosts french president hollande at the white house. the fight against isil is at the top of the agenda. we are back in two minutes with more. >>it's crazy money that you can make here. it's a ticking time bomb. >>do you know what chemicals have been in that tank? >> my big brother didn't wake up the next day. al jazeera america's... >> today they will be arrested. >>they're firing canisters of gas at us. >> we have to get out of here. >> it's like a conveyer belt of storms.
>> turn key shooting down a russian fighter jet, now tate though is getting involved. >> president obama hosts the french president at the white house, talking about stopping isil in syria. >> a palestinian man attacks israeli soldiers just as secretary of state john kerry tries to calm the tensions. >> fighting for his land, a native american activist gets one of the nation's highest
honors. >> good morning. welcome to your world this morning. i'm del walters. >> i'm stephanie sy. breaking news from the turkey syria border. >> these images show a russian war plane crashing after turkish jets shot it down. both pilots said to be dead, nato calling an extraordinary emergency meeting at turkey's request. al jazeera is on the turkey-syrian border with the latest. >> the turkish army has released a new statement saying that it intercepts the russian plane 15 kilometers before it got into the turkish air space and issued a warn and then a second warning, third, fourth and then
when the warnings were ignored, they took action and shot down the military plane. syrian activists on the ground said they saw the two pilots ejected, one of them was killed on the spot, and his body is with some factions affiliated with the syrian opposition. this is an incident that is likely to strain ties between russia and turkey, but highlights the delicate situation in syria where you have different players intervening with different agendas. i think this is going to put more pressure on the international community, the americans, the russians and the turk to try to agree on a modus omodusoperandi and engagement to prevent further incidents in the future. i think to come up to some sort of agreement won't be an easy task, because you have different visions about how to move forward in syria.
the russians say that bashar al assad will stay in power. it's only the syrians who will decide his future. the turks along with the americans have been saying that assad should have no future in syria. it's the syrian people who have to agree on a new alternative. >> a short time ago, vladimir putin told russian media that the downed jet is a stab in the back from turkey. he said this could have serious consequence for turkey russian relations. we have this report from moscow. >> it's interesting, listening to the russians speak at least officially. they are choosing their words carefully. first the defense ministry and then the kremlin. both saying the same thing, that this plane absolutely did not stray from syrian air space. they are also saying, working under the assumption this plane was shot down from the ground. what they have not done yet
officially is specifically pin this on the turkish military. there is at least the possibility that this might have been something that the rebels themselves did. what it seems is that the russians are trying to avoid the possibility for at least the moment that this could be a big diplomatic incident between russia and turkey. so when dimitri paskov was asked, he is the russian spokesperson, whether this would impact turkey-russian relations, he said it is too soon to answer that. whether he asked if this would impact the planned visit of sergey lavrov to turkey on wednesday, will this impact that, he said that's an issue
for the russian foreign ministry. the russians are trying to make this as contained and limited as possible, it seems. >> turkey summoned the russian ambassador to end the campaign be ended along the turkish border. >> russian began flying that jet and it can be armed with several missiles. the code name, finster. other air forces all fly the same plane, as well. >> the shooting down of that jet will be part of talks today between president obama and french president hollande. he is trying to assemble a grabbed coalition to fight isil. libby casey is live at the
house. good morning. what is the pentagon saying? >> a u.s. defense official tells aljazeera america that the u.s. did hear from its turkish allies earlier today, saying that the turkish allies shot down this russian jet and the wording here is important that the russian jet violated turkish air space. now. [ officials saying that american forces were not involved in this incident, stephanie. >> that crash will certainly be featured, i imagine that meeting tailed between president obama and french president hollande. >> absolutely. this will be changing certainly the conversation in the oval office today. president hollande comes through on the heels of meeting with british prime minister david cameron. later this week, he speaks with the german chancellor and then goes to moscow to meet with russian president vladimir putin. he hopes to go to that meeting with putin with allies, with
support, knowing that president obama is certainly standing with the french, not just in solidarity after the attacks in paris but hopefully with guarantees and promises on the tail. president hollande would like more of a commitment over arming rebels in syria, also getting more intel. the key may be collaboration rather than coordination. there is concern about what sort of work, done with the russians. the major difference between the americans and russians being the future of president assad in syria. the russians want him kept in power, the u.s. does not, so just how closely all of these countries can work together is definitely in question. president hollande may be the more aggressive partner at this meeting today. >> libby, thank you. >> stay with us. in just a few minutes, we will
talk to the former ambassador to nato about events. >> officials analyzing an explosive belt that didn't have a detonator but contained the same explosives used by those in the paris attacks. they are still looking for a suspect, saleh abdeslam. and brussels shut down for day four because of what officials are call a serious and imminent threat. the high level alert may be relaxed and the schools apartment metro could open tomorrow. >> the british prime minister is stepping up his nationed defense. >> as the murders on the streets of paris reminded us, isil is not some remote problem thousand was miles away. it is a direct threat to our security, at home and abroad. the word is more dangerous and uncertain today than even five years ago. mr. speaker, not one of these
capability is -- this is clear eyed self interest to he sure our future. >> he wants to increase spending $270 billion, money to buy war ships and aircraft. he plans to ask parliament for the authority to launch airstrikes against isil in syria. >> the state department warns american traveling overseas be careful. a new worldwide travel alert citing threats from isil, boko haram and other groups say americans should be available gent attending large public gatherings. >> secretary of state john kerry is meeting with israeli and palestinian leaders and condemning a wave of attacks. he met with trial prime minister benjamin netanyahu. he called on both sides to ease the silence. >> this is a challenge to all
civilized people. we all have a responsibility to condemn that violence, to make it clear that no frustration, no politics, no ideology and no emotion justifies taking innocent lives. >> earlier today, a palestinian drove his car into a group of israeli soldiers and police. the driver was shot and wounded. at least 92 palestinians and 16 israelis have been killed in attacks in the past two months. one american has also died. >> an investigation is underway in fort hood texas after a military helicopter crashed. all fore soldiers onboard died. the army said it was on a routine training mission. >> five people shot as a protest near minneapolis. hundreds have been gathering for days, angry over the shooting death of a black man by a police officer approximately all of the injuries are being called non-life threatening. still unclear what prompted the shootings or if there was any
connection to the protest. >> a storm system is bringing rain and snow. let's bring in nicole mitchell with more. just in time for thanksgiving travel. >> a lot of people are looking at this going oh, because people are going to be on the roads. more drive than fly, but a lot of people through all these different modes. now we have everything from the snow and the higher elevations, rain in the lower and even especially right along the washington and oregon border, some areas of ice. a lot of local officials are saying, you know, through the next couple days, don't travel if you don't have to. i know some of you will. this is the time to have that winter car kit with you you if you do. most under different weather advisories, all the way up to the brightest pings are the winter storm warnings where we are definitely going to be seeing those conditions. right across the borders, ice advisories. the higher elevations could see
places seeing over a foot in some cases. this is beneficial. ski resorts that aren't open try to do so in time for the thanksgiving holiday. that's a big ski holiday for some. some moisture gets to southern california. not at much, but even little bits obviously beneficial for the drought. this is ushering in cooler air. we know we've had cooler air for the rest of the country. this slowly moderates over the next couple of days. there is a little snow heading through the northeast. this is just a few flakes, not watching too much this morning. the big system of course is the one we have to the west. this pulls through the rockies into the day tomorrow. tomorrow we start to see a little moisture, but this core of the moisture, this is the two day forecast out for thanksgiving, some heavy areas of rain and behind that snow, i'll break down the travel forecast coming up in the next half hour. >> followed by black ice friday. nicole, thanks. >> nato calls an extraordinary
air space before turkey do you understand the jet. >> nato now calling and emergency meeting at turkey's request. they say they want to talk about it. turkey saying it has had on going air space issues with russia. >> it's incredibly rare. there's only been a handful of these extraordinary meetings of the north atlantic council in the entire history of the nato alliance. the last was july 28, once again at the request of turkey. back then, that meeting was called precisely to discuss the
security risks posed by isil. now at the request of turkey, another meeting to discuss the ramifications of the apparent incursion of this russian jet into turkish air space, because of course one of the founding principles in enshrined in article for, an assault on one should be seen as an although an owl, that this apparent incursion into turkish air space should be seen as an incursion into nato air space too. this meeting is expect to take place at 5:00 p.m. local time. it will be attended by all 28 member states who are permanently based here at nato headquarters and may also have live link ups with senior military personnel and other figures within the nato
alliance. >> an important guest on this issue joining us now, a former u.s. ambassador to nato. ambassador volcker, thanks for being here with us. a russian jet shot down by turkey, a nato member, could that be seen as an act of war by the russians? >> i don't think the russians will want to see it that way. this they wanted to make an issue out of it, they could, there's no doubt about it. i think we have to look at it from a couple of perspectives. russia has been fighting inside syria to back the assad regime and go after rebels there. they have been trying to operate within syrian air space. this is not russia seeking to attack turkey. that being said, russia has been careless about turkish air space. the turks have warned the russians including apparently in this incident -- >> is this necessarily carelessness, because as you say, nato warned russia in
october that it faced extreme danger if it violated turkish air space. i know this is going to sound provocative, but were those russian pilots, both of whom lost their lives deliberately sent on a mission that moscow knew could end like this? >> i don't think that that was the in tent behind it. there are three possibility, obviously. they didn't know what they were doing and did it by accident, they were just being careless or loose with the air space, or it was a deliberate provocation by russia, which i don't think russia wants to do. in terms of the middle option, which i think is the most likely, that's just, you know, with your flying a jet, the border is not exactly straight, you're trying to get advantage, angle how you want to approach target you want to hit. i think they are being very loose with it and thinking that
turkey wouldn't really respond and that in fact proved to be wrong. at this point, i don't think russia wants to make this a cob applicant with turkey. i think russia's interest is to stay focused on supporting assad and now may be trying to pivot and say look how dangerous this whole region is now, we need europeans to join the effort in trying to bring about a peace in syria. >> putin's response just in the last half hour is that this was a stab in the back by turkey. assuming your estimate, that this is not necessarily an escalation we'll see between nato and russia or between turkey and russia, what is next? there is this extraordinary meeting that ankara has called. it's a rare meeting. how would you expect nato to respond? >> with nato, first off, it's a consultation under article four, which is when a country perceives any kind of security
risk, it can convene a meeting with nato to discuss it. it's not the same as article five, the defensive collect clause that implies if you're invoking that nato should respond in some way. it's not there yet. i think nato will issue a right to defend its air space and stands with turkey in the event there is an attack against turkey, nato would spots. there's no evidence that this was an attack against turkey and nato is not going to get further involved in the conflict at this point. >> we do know rush is an important player when it comes to syria and the issue of isil. does the threat now posed by isil force europe to reexamine its relationship with putin despite the fact it that incurred into the air space of a nato ally. in other words, is it necessary to make concessions to putin
given russia's importance in syrian diplomacy? >> i think the europeans are already reevaluating this very, very quickly. after the attacks in paris, we already started hearing from voices in france. we've heard a little bit from president hollande that the greater threat right now is isis rather than assad. instead of calling for assad's removal or some different settlement in syria, they are gravitating toward the russian point of view, assad stays in power to create stability. i think that the u.s. is actually right on this one in terms of analyzing the situation. assad's killed close to 300,000 of his own people, created
4 million refugees and 11 million total displaced persons from this conflict, many streaming into europe. they are all suffering horribly. there will not be peace in syria, the sunni's will not stand for this as long as assad stays in power. getting behind this russian effort may sound like short policy in the short run but in reality is going to extend and prolong this crisis involving more suffering and will not lead to a solution. from the american side, i'm concerned while we may be right in our analysis about what may happen with assad in power with russian support, we are unwilling to do anything ourselves to bring something different about. we appear to be in a very marginal position as others are acting more decisively. >> i keep hearing this from different analysts that the u.s. needs to employ a more serious strategy against isil. what is a more aggressive u.s. posture against isil look like short of u.s. ground troops
being sent into a region for you? >> first offer, we start with the question of what's needed without ruling out ground troops, let's see what's needed and then decide what makes the most sense. this is a very, very serious problem that has created refugees, all these people killed in the conflict, and has spawned all these terrorist attacks and terrorist threats, including in europe, including when we see in belgium today, including claims by isis they are going to strike washington if they are able to, so this is very, very serious. we shouldn't just rule things out and say we don't do this or that, but hope it goes away. in terms of a real strategy, we need a no fly zone over syria or parts of syria. i think we need a safe zone inside syria. i think we need to go after isis in its headquarters as the french has been doing aggressively amounted u.s. should be part of this effort. we need to destroy isis and make sure she have no actions to income, oil, no control of
cities, no control of territory. they need to be obliterated. with doing that, we can with more credibility and force then start the pros of working with others in the region, including neighbors, turkey, including the kurds, saudi arabia, the u.a.e. carve out a space that is safe for syrian people. with balance on the ground, you might have the prospect of negotiations and maybe settlement. negotiations now are doomed to fail, because the forces are all on the side of assad with all the russians there and no one is going to be making compromises. >> how is that easily done especially when you see an incident like today, where you have turkish jets up there, you ever syrian air force jets flying over this border between turkey and syria, a no fly zone, would the russians be onboard with that. >> first off, nobody said it would be easy. this is not easily done.
would have been a few years ago, but it keeps getting more complicated and difficult. that being said, i don't think russia wants to be in conflict with the u.s. or turkey or our countries. i think if we were to establish some lines, we would communicate them to russia, just as they've communicated them to us. i think we could probably find a tacit way of avoiding coming into conflict. doesn't mean we are freeing on everything, but with military professionals on both sides, we could set the lines clearly to avoid coming into contact. >> thank you for joining us this morning. >> president obama facing growing pressure to do more in the fight, including the possibility of sending in ground troops. al jazeera takes a look at that. >> the attacks in paris shocked people in the u.s. and reminded them of september 11. the question for the u.s. president, from rival politicians and the press, isn't
it time for the u.s. military to take out isil? >> the equation has clearly changed. isn't it time for your strategy to change? >> have you underestimated their abilities. >> why can't we take out these [bleep]? >> given the fact that there are enormous sacrifices involved in any military action, it's best that we don't in which shoot first and aim later. it's important for us to get the strategy right and the strategy that we are pursuing is the right one. >> there is appetite from the public for sending in u.s. you ground troops. before the paris attacks, 54% supported the idea, 38 opposed it. in another poll, taken after the attacks, support jumped to 65%, but in a third poll, results were split. 44% supported sending american troops, while 45% were opposed. the mixed opinions are evident around the country. >> america sees itself as a
super pair, it's their duty and our responsibility. >> we could have our troops there for a year, and get rid of isis, great, but that's not going to be the case. >> we've tried that twice, right? didn't work out so well, especially in iraq. >> the obama administration said it had already been increasing its effort, attacking isil oil supplies, and increasing intelligence sharing with france. >> as one capital breaks up a cell, we have to connect the dots. >> monday, the u.s. secretary of state called for calm. >> what we need to do is not succumb to fear. people need to not panic. >> while there's speculation that president francois hollande might ask the u.s. for more military cooperation, analysts say that won't be enough to defeat isil. >> countries have to think about working together and undercutting the instability that allows isil to flourish,
whether it's war or politics, but these conditions are allowing isil to survive, despite u.s. bombings so far. >> for this more patient approach to work, the u.s. may have to ignore the emotions of the moment. al jazeera, washington. >> much more on our top story, turkey shooting down that russian fighter jet near the syrian border. >> more, including russia's reaction.
detect immigration violations.yo >> let's go to the former c.i.a. operative specializing in security issues. she joins us from washington, d.c. you hear one of the presidential candidates on the campaign trail talk about databases. >> we're several years from developing a three row and robust database, but certainly this is our future and is going to be a hot button issue, the issue of privacy versus security is going to come up with this issue, because people want security, they want to be able to vet refugees, but at the same time, are american travelers going to be comfortable with having their faces scanned. >> stephanie and i were talking about this as we watched your package and spotting the refugee who wants to be a terrorist is
like finding a needle in a haystack. how good is the current facial recognition technology? >> the technology is good, but it's only as good as the date that that's inputted. if there's good data going in, you're likely to get a match, but the top matches are based on a percentage of probability, so it can't be one hub% accurate. the fact is that this technology will never replace a t.s.a. agent, border or customs agent. you're always going to need a human being to make that final call about whether or not the identity is accurate. >> if i'm a bad guy, i figure out ways to circumvent anything, which is why we have our infrastructure being hacked. is there a way around facial technology and will the bad guys figure that out real quick? >> well, so far no. i mean, i think that this is going to be a major stumbling block not just for bad guys but for people in my former
profession, spies who are used to traveling in alias and masking their identity. this is going to make it much harder, but it will likely make us much safer. >> lindsey, thanks for being with us. you can watch "tech know" this afternoon at 3:00 p.m. eastern time right here on aljazeera america. >> honored for fighting for his rights. >> we'll tell you the story of a native american advocate receiving the medal of freedom today.
>> this is al jazeera. >> hello, this is al jazeera live from doha. our top stories, turkey shoots down a russian military jet near its border with syria, saying the aircraft violated its air space. both pilots ejected from the plane but reported to have been killed. moscow said it can prove the jet wasn't in turkish air space. >> this is a stab in the back. the pilot did not threaten anyone. >> russian's president warns of serious consequence for its relationship with