Skip to main content

tv   News  Al Jazeera  November 30, 2015 8:00pm-9:01pm EST

8:00 pm
to see kobi bryant. he announced he will retire at the end of the season. he helped the lakers win five championships. the nba commissioner called bryant one of the greatest players in the history of our game. for sure. that's all of our time, thanks for watching. john siegenthaler is back today's news right now. tony thanks. we begin with the climate change summit happening in paris just weeks after the isil attacks. they meet to talk about the man made conditions that are creating a global crisis. mike viqueira has more. >> reporter: good evening, john, for president obama it's a short trip to paris but with an ambitious agenda. but there are doubts that the efforts will be enough to halt the rise in global temperatures. president obama's first stop in paris an an unannounced trip to
8:01 pm
the stage that was attacked two weeks ago. later addressing an unprecedented gathering of some 150 world leaders. >> sub merged countries, abandoned cities, fields that noening loer grow, and even more floods of desperate peoples seeking the sanctuary of nations not their own. >> reporter: the goal is to get nations to set targets. mr. obama has pledged to cut u.s. emissions by 26 to 28% over the next ten years. at the top of the emissions emitter, china. who's leader has promised to
8:02 pm
halt emissions by 2030. >> the two largest economies and carbon emitters in the world. we both determined it is our responsibility to take action. >> reporter: there was an informal meeting with russian president vladimir putin, and a bilateral meeting with the leader of india, who later touched on a chronic point of disagreement. the responsibility of industrialized nations who have grown rich over time while spewing carbon, to shoulder their share of the burden in cutting back. >> they also have the most room to make the cuts and make the strongest impact. >> reporter: still india has always pledged to reduce emissions and unlike past failed summits, the goal in paris is to
8:03 pm
get commitments from all. to help foot the moermous costs leaders were joined by bill gates who announced a plan to team with governments and billionaires in a multi-billion dollars effort to fuel clean energy research. for mr. obama this is his last best chance to help make a difference on climate. >> i believe in the worlds of dr. marlin luther king, jr. that there is such a thing as being too late, and when it comes to climate change that is almost upon us >> operator: mike viqueira, al jazeera, washington. on the sidelines in paris, president obama and president putin met face-to-face for about
8:04 pm
30 minutes today. officials say president obama asked putin to focus on isil targets in syria, not on rebel groups. steven coen who is professor of mer us the of russian studies. good to see you again. what is the significance of this meeting? >> grand as president hollande would put it. because hollande after the november 13th paris attacks on paris, called for a grand alliance, as he put it, between the west and russia. putin has said okay. hollande traveled to washington and then moscow. it would appear, at least until today -- we don't know exactly what putin and obama said, that obama has held back from participating in this grand alliance. bare in mind that hollande
8:05 pm
represents europe now. germany is behind them. so what you have is a -- kind of trying to improve diplomatic relations. >> is this a turning point? >> that's the question. cold war or containment -- i mean cold war or coalition with russia? europe has made its decision. they voted for it. but washington seems reduction. there are issues, you mentioned one of them. who are they bombing, who are they fighting? but it doesn't seem like this is the main issue any longer. >> did the attacks in paris change all of this? >> well, we have got to deconstruct the question, we know it changed things in europe. it was their 9/11, i mean proportionally, in terms of population, they lost as many
8:06 pm
people as we lost on 9/11. europe and germany won an alliance with russia to fight the islamic state. they know they have to negotiate an end to the ukrainian crisis. washington, the obama administration hasn't decided. so the answer to your question is another question. >> let me bring in one other element. isil has reportedly taken full control of a libyan city of sirte. the first arrived there a year ago, take advantage of the instability in that country. sirte is the gateway to oil fields and refineries. and russia is involved in libya as well. what is the significance of that? >> shall i be candid? >> please do. >> the decision lead by president obama and secretary of state clinton to carry out regime change in libya in 2011
8:07 pm
and then the public assassination of gadhafi, lead to the collapse of the libyan state, a terror-ridden state, and a great boost for the islamic state. you could say, steve, that's history, but if you carry out regime change in syria, these demands that assad must go, must go, the same thing will happen in syria. >> well, it sounds like a pattern, you have iraq, afghanistan, you say syria -- >> it's called regime change. but you can't blame obama and mrs. clinton, because if we're honest, it began with clinton when he bombed serbia in 1999. so we have had a foreign policy over a long period of years that comes down to using military
8:08 pm
force to remove maybe awful regimes, but the question is does anybody else ask what will replace them. so the decision to be made now is, i think, do you want assad in damascus, or do you want the islamic state, because the united states doesn't want to put boots on the ground, russia doesn't want to put boots on the ground, the most effective boots as we talk are the boots of the syrian government. it is bolstering assad's army so they can fight. if we destroy assad's army, who is going to fight? i'm not going to fight. are you? >> no. it's an important question to ask. >> yes, and it would be nice if the presidential candidates address it directly. >> uh-huh. steven thank you very much. turkey said it will not apologize for shooting down a
8:09 pm
russian war plane last week. russia has equipped its war planes with air to air missiles. turkish resorts are popular with russian tourists. officials at the u.s. embassy in kabul are warning of an imminent attack in the afghan capitol. they said there are credible reports that say an assault is expected in the next two days. the threat is not specifically against the u.s. ambassador or american citizens. there were no details on timing, targets, or method of the attack. now to washington, lawmakers are expected to agree on a long-term highway bill for the first time in ten years. the bill is supposed to tackle big issues like traffic, crumbling roads, and making
8:10 pm
everyone safer. >> reporter: it's been a bumpy ride for transportation bills in congress, members have failed for a decade to pass long-term funding, agreeing only to short-term fixes. >> eight months, two weeks, four days, very unpredictable for the states to count on the federal government being present. >> reporter: but this year a legislative miracle, the house passed a six-year transportation bill. so did the senate. >> this is a moment in history that doesn't come along very often. >> reporter: it has been up to this enormous conference committee, 65 lawmakers to resolve the differences between the two bills. >> i believe everyone in this room understands how critical our transportation system is to the economy and our constituent's quality of life. >> reporter: 60,000 bridges in
8:11 pm
the u.s. are in bad shape and a about a 3 of roads are in poor or mediocre condition. the big bottleneck? how to pay to fix all of this. >> reporter: traditionally the federal gas tax covers the tab, but it has not been raised since 1993, and given inflation and better fuel economy, the tax now brings in billions less than what is needed. still there's little desire in congress to raise the tax. drivers we spoke with had mixed views. >> it would directly impact my bottom line, so of course i'm against that. >> i think it's a good idea to keep the roads and bridges and everything safe. >> if i am sourced i would have to, but if they asked me, no, i would not. >> reporter: congress is cobbling together more than $300 billion by finding coins
8:12 pm
under the cushions. >> there is credit for passing bipartisan bill that is multi-year, but it's the bare minimum of what they had to get done. they shouldn't be that congratulatory with themselves. >> reporter: the bill doesn't just fund highway and transit, it also tackles safety issues, which congress has been up in arms over, after a record number of recalls involving tens of millions of drivers, but despite that tough talk, critics say the bill flunks on safety. >> you find when the camera light is on, they roar like a lion, but when they are in the back room writing the bill and their friends from industry are lobbying them they become weak as lambs. >> reporter: she says the house bill shortchanges the agency
8:13 pm
responsibility for safety. so, yes, congress has at long last jump started transportation bill, but as for moving forward on significant funding and safety changes, those are left for another day. lisa stark, al jazeera, washington. puerto rico is on the brink of default tonight. the u.s. territory is due to make a $354 million debt payment tomorrow. at this point it appears unlikely it will find the cash to do so. puerto rico shows a debt that its current leaders say is unpayable. >> reporter: back in june the governor announced that puerto rico was not going to be able to pay back this massive debt. since then he and other government officials have been talking to creditors, bondholders trying to figure out a restructuring plan for this
8:14 pm
small island. they haven't come up with any solutions, and they have already missed a payment. there hasn't been anything even close to getting done. people in the u.s. territory of puerto rico are living in desperate times. >> i have been following this economy for the past 40 years. i have never seen it so bad. this economy has not really come out of the recession for nine years now. >> reporter: puerto rico owes over $70 billion after years of borrowing to fill budget gaps across nearly all sectors. >> puerto rico wants do pay. the problem is we don't have enough resources. >> reporter: the commonwealth is negotiating with bondholders to reduce the load by asking investors to accept losses. who screwed up, who is to blame, and who is to fix it? >> i think all of us that voted for this for the last 20 years. >> reporter: in puerto rico?
8:15 pm
>> yes. >> reporter: the obama administration is asking the government to have access to protections it does not currently have. but it is up to congress, and it's unclear if washington will help. meanwhile, 300,000 people have left the island in the past decade, and the unemployment rate is over 12%. here in san juan puerto rico, there are many parts that look like this. just a few years ago this area was bustling with business, the residents and touris tourists -- walking up and down the streets. now poverty has taken over, and over 45% here in puerto rico, and that is three times the average on the mainland, u.s. francis is a single mother and spends a lot of time at the unemployment office. she doesn't want to leave the
8:16 pm
island, but may have to. >> translator: if i don't have money, how do i buy anything? it's tough on the consumer. i don't have money. i have no money. i can't buy anything. that's the cycle. >> reporter: maria has a job. she is a school teacher and hopes to retire in the next few years, but worries that her pension will not be enough. >> translator: once the government took out the money from the retirement plan to pay the debts they didn't return the money to the retirement plan, and neither the interests of that money. >> reporter: puerto rico governor said monday whether the commonwealth makes the payment due tuesday depends on negotiations with creditors. john, it's anybody's guess here on the island and even in washington, d.c., whether or not puerto rico will make any kind of payment tomorrow. the governor will be meeting in
8:17 pm
front of the judiciary committee tomorrow, and try to plead his case that he needs cash to get out of this turmoil they are in. whether or not anything happens out of that senate committee tomorrow, we'll have to say and see, john. >> reporter: this crisis has had a difficult impact on the people of puerto rico. what are they predicting about the future? >> reporter: well, you know, already there have been like we said 300,000 people in the past decade that have left the island for better times in florida, new york, and chicago. there is just a very low amount of jobs here. there is just not any opportunity. we have to look at the bigger picture on this. it's not just the island of puerto rico, the governor and president barack obama asking congress to consider some form of chapter 9 or bankruptcy to help the situation here. if that were to actually occur,
8:18 pm
of course congress would have to approve it, but it would seat precedence for states on the mainland that are facing crisis. on top of that, the bonds become riskier because the bondholders look at the scenario, like if a school needs to be built or bridges need to be redone, then the risk is even greater. >> robert thank you. pope francis wrapped up its trip to central african republic with a visit to a mosque. much of the car has been torn apart by violence. after the pope left, hundreds of muslims who were barricaded, flowed on to the streets. colorado shooting new details on friday's deadly
8:19 pm
attack. plus a closer look at the alleged gunmen. trump meeting, quoting endorsements. the candidate sits down with african american pastors including one who joins us live. plus age and beauty -- >> the trees i have photographed are around 2,000 years old. >> spectacular photographs and the stories behind them of the oldest trees on earth.
8:20 pm
8:21 pm
the gunman who police say attacked a planned parenthood
8:22 pm
clinic in colorado will face first degree murder charged. he is accused of killing three people including a police officer and wounding nine others. jim hooley is in colorado springs tonight. jim? >> reporter: john, you can see the police are still on the scene here at the clinic. they have been here around the clock since friday. they are processing the scene still, and they say they should be here for a couple of days beyond this evening. the hearing today was an advisement hearing for the suspect telling him what the charges he may be facing. and it lasted only about 10 minutes. >> the initial against you is murder in the first degree. the penalty for that charge is minimum of life in prison and maximum of death. robert lewis dear appeared before a judge via video.
8:23 pm
>> do you have any questions about any of these rights, sir? >> no questions. >> okay. so does the public defender wish any additional advisement? >> no, your honor. >> under the colorado system it is not a question i can answer now. it will be at the time that he is arraigned. after his arraignment we'll have 63 days, anything we decide will be of public record. >> reporter: he said he will consult with federal prosecutors next peek about possible hate crime charges. three people were killed at the planned parenthood clinic. dear lead a recluse i life in a rural area. his neighbors say he was
8:24 pm
strange, anti-social, and strongly critical of president obama. also on monday, penrose hospital in downtown colorado springs were placed on lockdown for security concerns. this is where many of those wounded in the shooting have been treated. the suspect is due back in court here in colorado springs on december 9th, next week. at that time he will face the formal charges for the shooting here last friday. john. >> jim hooley, thank you. investigators say the motive behind the planned parenthood clinic is unclear. >> reporter: after the shooting at a planned parenthood pass illty in colorado springs the suspected gunmen went on a
8:25 pm
verbal ramp as he was being arrested. he rambled about president obama, abortions and said no more baby parts. it's a rallying cry that has been echoed on the political right. >> we have seen that across the country from all sorts of speakers in the last few months. i can't believe that this isn't contributing to some folks mentally unwell or not, thinking that it's okay to -- to target planned parenthood. >> reporter: the phrase no more baby parts a viral response to videos post d online last summer by an eighty abortion rights organization that claims planned parenthood trafficked in baby parts for a profit. the most infamiliarer to and inaccurate rhetoric has come from carly fiorina. >> watch a fully formed fetus on
8:26 pm
the table. it's heart beating. it's legs kicking. >> reporter: the video showed no such thing. over the weekend, fiorina and other republicans focused on democrats. >> what i would say to anyone who tries to link this terrible tragedy to anyone who opposes abortion or opposes the sale of body parts this is typical lef-wing tactics. >> to say that we would like to retaliate by sending some mad man into a clinic to kill people. god knows that's not what anybody would want. >> reporter: but bernie sanders issued a statement saying: the videos put planned parenthooded at the center of a debate in washington over government funding. the republican-controlled congress has until december 11th to pass a finance bill to keep the government running. some conservatives want to let
8:27 pm
the government shut down unless president obama agrees to end federal reimbursements to planned parenthood even though no federal money pace for abortions. and five different committees have been investigating planned parenthood since the videos came out. republican presidential candidate ben carson. >> we get into our separate corners and we hate each other. we want to destroy those with whom we disagree, it comes from both sides, so there is no saint here in this equation. ♪ >> reporter: meanwhile the memorials continue in colorado for the latest victims of violence against the facility or a clinic providing abortion since 1993 such attacks across the united states have now killed 11 people. david shuster, al jazeera. coming up next on this broadcast, courting african
8:28 pm
american voters why donald trump had to make a quick change to an event today. and the pressure students are putting on college administrators to do more about allegations of racism on campus. after this.
8:29 pm
8:30 pm
>> the only live national news show at 11:00 eastern. >> we start with breaking news. >> let's take a closer look. hi, everyone, this is al jazeera america. i'm john siegenthaler. ♪ race in politics, how donald trump is courting black religious leaders -- >> we will be working very, very closely with everybody, and we're going to be solving a lot
8:31 pm
of problems. >> and stirring up new controversy. in custody, the death of freddie gray sparked protests and violence in baltimore. now the first officer goes to trial. plus spy masters -- >> this country has better go on a war plain now. >> reporter: a new documentary with a rare look inside the secret world of the cia. ♪ donald trump met in new york today with dozens of african american religious leaders. the republican presidential candidate claimed that he would be endorsed by the group. no endorsement was issued. trump has recently come under fire after saying a black lives matter protester who was kicked out of one of his rallies deserved it. >> well, you know, the tone has taken me to first position in every single poll, including state and including national
8:32 pm
poles. the beautiful thing about the meeting is they really didn't ask me to change the tone. i think they want to see victory, because ultimately it is about we want to win and win together. >> trump says the religious leaders are calling for results in the form of jobs. paster steven parson is the founder of the richmond christian center in virginia. he attended that private meeting today. the reverend of baltimore tweeted prostitutes for trump, don't let black pulpit become a poll. what is your response to that tweet? >> that is very unfortunately. he wasn't there. so it's unfortunate that he would make a comment like that. it was a total positive meeting, and we had an opportunity to talk to him, know his heart, and
8:33 pm
it's unfortunate. >> you say you are for donald trump 10%. >> 100%. >> he said today muslims went wild in celebration of the 9/11 attacks in the united states. governor christy said that never happen. you say? >> i say the most important thing is america and our country, and i feel donald trump is best for america, and best for minorities. >> he says he wants surveillance of certain mosques, do you agree in >> absolutely. >> he said maybe he should have been roughed up talking about this black lives matter protester. do you agree? >> that was one of the issues that we addressed. and we found out that he didn't even know the american was an african american, and certainly not a part of the black lives movement. >> he tweeted crime statistics show blacks kill 81% of white homicide victims. and that is simply not true.
8:34 pm
what do you say to that? >> yeah, he tweeted that, and found out later that it wasn't true. >> you are not worried about any of that? >> no. we're in a political battle here, and a lot of the things are just things that are being done to cause, division, controver controversy, but we know his heart. >> has he put african americans on his boards of his businesses, or put them in positions of power in his businesses? do you know anything about that? >> i can say he has created businesses that have hired thousands of minorities -- >> but there is a difference between that and putting them in upper management. that's what presidents do when they vie to make a diverse administration. do you think he has diversion companies? >> i don't know enough about his performance of the people -- >> do you think you should? >> no, because what encourages me about donald trump is the
8:35 pm
fact that he is a wealthy business owner and he knows how to create wealth -- >> what track record does he have of supporting african americans with his business? >> well, he has hired a number of african americans. number two, he has created businesses, and that's what we need as far as the country is concerned. and he also has books out where he encourages people to be financially literate and become wealthy. >> are you a republican or a democrat? >> i'm a black conservative pastor that has always encouraged by congregation to vote for the candidate that believes the most closely to what we believe. i peach around election time, i encourage your people to vote for people who believe the way you believe as a christian. >> so what sort of reaction have
8:36 pm
you gotten from your congregation because of your endorsement from donald trump? >> i haven't gotten any negative -- >> none? >> none. from my congregation. but most of our people vote for the candidate that believes to the issues that are most biblical. >> why didn't they endorse him? >> some of them that was the first time they had ever spoken with him. they had an opportunity to hear the man's heart and then take what they heard, go home, pray about it, and then during election time go ahead on and vote. >> do you like what he said about latinos in america? >> what? >> when it comes to immigration, he said we ought to round up all latinos who don't have documentation and send them back to mexico. >> no. what he is against is illegal
8:37 pm
immigrants. >> that's what i mean undocumented workers. >> yeah, they need to go back and become legal. >> should the united states round them all up and send them back. >> well, it's a process. let's give them an opportunity do it. >> should all muslims be registered in the united states as donald trump suggested. >> we need to find out who is here and who comes here -- >> he is suggesting that we -- all muslims ought to be registered in the united states. >> right now we need to know who is coming here. so there has to be some type of knowing who is coming into our country. >> isn't that similar to what happened to the japanese in world war ii? >> no, i wouldn't say that. first of all during that time, we weren't experiencing what we're experiencing now with terrorists, where christians -- >> we were at war with japan. >> yeah, they came and bombed pearl harbor, but this is a new
8:38 pm
thing that we have never experienced before as a country. >> and you say what should happen to muslims? >> i'm saying we need to know who is coming into our country -- >> there are plenty of american muslims in this country right now. people are born and raised here of the muslim faith. >> first of all you need to find out what he means -- >> but how are we going to find it out? aren't you going to find out in meeting like you had today? >> at this particular meeting which only lasted for so long, but we were able to ask him questions and find out his answers and most of the people that were there, i feel as though were satisfied with his answers and responsible. >> pastor it is good to see you. >> okay. >> thank you very much. prosecutors in minneapolis have filed charges against four
8:39 pm
men. witnesses say the men hurled racial slurs at the protesters last week. demonstrations have been non-stop since the killing of jamal clark earlier this month. in baltimore, jury selection started in the case against william porter, one of the six baltimore police officers charged in the death of freddie gray which sparked pass protests in april. 75 of the juries questioned today say they are familiar with the grey case. john terrett has more. >> reporter: good evening, john, and that's why they are coming back tomorrow for more intense questioning to determine whether they really can give a fair trial in a case they already know so much about. a very complex case at that. william porter the first of the six officers charged in freddie gray's death arrived at the courthouse.
8:40 pm
while jury selection got underway inside, demonstrators protested loudly outside, their chants clearly audible inside the courtroom. >> mr. grey's death was a homicide. >> reporter: william porter has pleaded not guilty. but publicity surrounding the case is one of the toughest hurdles. >> the biggest challenge for the defense is the climate right now for a police officer charged with manslaughter or criminal act against an unarmed civilian. >> reporter: protests have taken place all over the country. porter's trial is getting underway on the heels of a murder indictment on the heels of a chicago police officer. grey suffered a spinal injury after he was arrested during his
8:41 pm
transportation in a police van. prosecutors say officer porter caused his death when he failed to secure grey with a seat belt. this video reports to show porter looking on as grey is shackled and placed in the van. >> he doesn't step up to seat belt him. is that a crime? does that rise to the level of such unreasonable conduct on the part of an officer? not every wrong is a crime. >> reporter: it was a deliberate failure to do their duty. >> reporter: billy murphy sees the case differently. he represented freddie gray's family in the civil case and reached a $6.4 million settlement with the city. >> every one of the officers who was in a position to know, and had a duty to know, his medical condition, just ignored him. and that's called fall feasance in office. that's the theory of the
8:42 pm
prosecution's case. >> reporter: the driver of the police van stopped around 9:00 am and asked porter to check on gray. and according to report in the newspaper, gray asked for medical help. the van made another stop to pick up another suspect. paramedics weren't called until 9:24 when the van reached the police station. grey's statements and those of all of the officers accused will likely raise complex legal questions, but in grey's neighborhood, the answer is simple. >> somebody needs to pay for what they did to that boy. somebody needs to pay for that. because six police, and then he goes in the hospital and dies? spine injury? no. >> reporter: trials for the other five officers charged are scheduled from january through march next year. and judge barry williams says he is determined to get through jury selection and get the case
8:43 pm
proper underway by the end of this week. >> all right. john terrett, thank you. the chicago police officer accused of shooting laquan mcdonald 16 times free tonight. bond was set at $1.5 million for the officer. he is charged with first degree murder. van dyk needed to put up 150,000 to get out. he was spotted leaving jail late this afternoon. he is due back in court december 18th. tonight students at ithaca college in new york state have given a vote of no confidence to the school's president. the vote is symbolic, but reflects the views of many student protesters. andy is in ithaca, new york. andy? >> reporter: john, ithaca college is roughly 6,900 students, a little over half voted in this online poll, and
8:44 pm
of those 71% said they wanted to give the boot to the school president. protests have flared up at ithaca college in recent weeks. students have complained of racial insults at campus meetings, and a fraternity that advertised a party of preps and crooks, in which the crooks were asked to dress in baggy pants and bling. that lead the student government to launch an online vote. students were asked to vote on whether they had confidence in the leadership of the school's president to address the problems. >> the fact that people are voicing their discontent and worry about what is going on, because -- i mean, speaking personally, i am aware that there is racism around here. >> reporter: but she admits she
8:45 pm
didn't really feel those tensions at ithaca, until the protests started flaring up. >> there are people who are going to say this is pampered kids -- they can't handle the reality. but anyone -- if you are going to vouch that these issues aren't issues, that's pretty crazy to vouch. >> reporter: still stephen wrote a column warning that political correctness not trample all of the voices on campus. >> i know i'm not going to be on the same page as everyone. people are not going to agree with what i say in many situations, but having that out there ensure there is a more equal playing field for all students. >> reporter: another student admits she hasn't felt racial tennings, but says the president has had the opportunity to address racial issues on campus and haven't. >> he and his administrationn't
8:46 pm
have done anything to address the issues that faculty and students have. >> there is a faculty vote coming up in a couple of weeks, and if both votes are no confidence, the board of trustees will have to step in to the issue. they hired a racial diversity officer, and put body cams on officers, but for the students it might be a little too late. coming up next on the broadcast, the spy masters, all 12 living cia directors on how the agency changes after the 9/11 attacks. ♪
8:47 pm
8:48 pm
there's a remarkable new documentary out that takes a rare and unprecedented look inside the cia. it includes interviews with
8:49 pm
every living cia director and focuses some of the most controversial tactics in the post-9/11er -- era. the new documentary, the spy masters, cia in the cross hairs is an unprecedented look at the agency. >> killing somebody no matter how bad they are never sits easily in people's souls. >> they each sat down for interviews. they clashed with each other and the current president on many issues, from torture -- >> i will not accept the use of the word torture. >> you can't do that, it's illegal. >> to drone strikes. >> they are killing a lot of people with drone strikes that
8:50 pm
would be better to be captured and interviewed. >> present at the july 10th, white house meeting, our national security advisor, condoleezza rice, and other top officials -- >> there will significant terrorist attacks against the united states in the coming weeks or months. the attacks will be spectacular. al-qaeda's intention is the destruction of the united states. ♪ >> this country has got to go on a war plane now. slam my hand on the table. >> what happened? >> yeah. lifted up. >> chris is the executive producer of the spy masters. great to have you on the program. >> thanks for having me. >> this is an interesting documentary. i want to go right to the news that you created with this documentary. it is almost infuriating to know
8:51 pm
that the u.s. knew about these threats but weren't able to act on them. in particular, july 2001, what happened? >> it's a chilling picture that the head of the counter terrorism center paints. george, the director of the cia submitted authorities for a paramilitary operation in afghanistan to pull al-qaeda out by the roots. the response from the bush white house, according to tenant was we don't want to look at this yet. we don't want the clock to start ticking. i canned him what did that mean? and he said they weren't ready to decide what their terrorism policy was going to be. now fast forward to july 10th, within 24 hours, they had seven specific pieces of intelligence, predicting imminent attacks. it wasn't clear where they might be. they might be overseas.
8:52 pm
they might be in the u.s. on july 10th, george tenant called the white house and said we're coming over now. he goes there with the head of counter terrorism, and black slammed his fist on the table and said we have to go on a war footing now. viewers can judge -- >> but it didn't happen. >> viewers can make their own judgments as to how the bush white house reacted. >> all 12 directors of the cia sat down with you. >> we started with george hw bush who is revered by the cia. the last holdout was george tenant who hasn't given an interview in eight years. and imagine on your watch as cia director you had the 9/11 attacks, the enhanced interrogation program, and weapons of mass destruction in iraq. the most surprising thing,
8:53 pm
perhaps is the extent to which the cia is a house divided. we called it a battle for the soul of the cia. torture is one example. >> they talked about drones too. >> yes. >> what was the most interesting thing they said about drones. >> leon tells the story of this ethical dilemma he faced as cia director when at the funeral for one of his officers, he gets word that the cia has a major terrorist in the cross hairs of a drone over pakistan. and panetta calls the white house. they essentially say this is your decision whether to pull the trigger. there were women and children in the shot as panetta would put it. and he said ordinarily we wouldn't take the shot, but this was a major terrorist. panetta described how -- he is a
8:54 pm
devout catholic, and makes the decision to pull the trigger and take out this terrorist, knowing it would cause collateral damage. >> what is the most disturbing thing you found in this film? >> the cia as one director put it, can only buy you time and space. every director to a person agreed that we can't kill our way out of this. as michael heydone put it, if the policy makers don't have the courage to address that space to address terrorism, you get into a cycle where you kill people frifr. >> thank you very much. the spy masters now available on show time any time and show time on demand.
8:55 pm
there are many obstacles to a peace agreement between israel and the palestinians. >> i'm going one on one with israeli's minister of education. he is the leader of the right-wing jewish home party. his party platform calls on israel to expand settlements, and rejects the establishment of a palestinian state. that's on target tonight 9:00 eastern. john? >> thank you. coming up ancient trees and the photographer that found much more than branches and leaves.
8:56 pm
8:57 pm
8:58 pm
in tonight's first person report, beth moon, this photographer spent 15 years finding the most ancient trees from around the world. >> ancient trees, portraits of time is a series of works that i have been doing for about the fast -- past 15 years. it chronicles the life of some of our oldest trees. they are around 2,000 years. i base the criteria on size, historical interest, or age. i did a lot of research to find
8:59 pm
these trees, and often people sent pictures of trees to me or i got tips from travelers. i'm constantly learning new things about trees all the time. they all have different stories to tell. the wittingham ewu has a mccob history. it is said that the murder of marry queen of scotts was photographed under this tree. and the oak witch is supposedly the tree that robin hood and his men hid in. in south africa, i was told this tree was the meeting place in the 1970s for anti-apartheid fighters. i'm amazed at how they have been
9:00 pm
able to survive through the ages, and how resilient they are. they are remarkable on so many levels. >> remarkable photographs. that's our broadcast. thanks for watching. i'm john siegenthaler. ali is next. >> i'm ali velshi. "on target" tonight. obstacles to peace in the middle east. entrepreneur turned hard line politicians, naftali bennett. the middle east is consumed by violence, with war, devastating cungs likdevastatingcountries ld syria.