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i'm ray suarez and that's the "inside story." >> this is aljazeera america, live from new york city, i'm tony harris. probably approved. a british judge links russian president, vladimir putin, to the murder of a foreign spy. 263 years. a former police officer is sentenced for rape and sexual assault. dc gridlock. because of an inch of snow. with more on the way and no shows. at will smith to the list of actors not going to the oscars. how the academy plans to
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respond. >> nearly 10 years after a russian spy turned deske defectr died from poisoning, the report points to moscow's involvement. that the poisoning was probably approved by president vladimir putin >> reporter: the letter has led investigators to the very doors of the kremlin. the finding says that the russian president, vladimir putin himself probably approved of alexander lityenko's murder. also implicated the head of the
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security. >> that's a strong possibility, that he did soened the direction of the fsb, the federal security service, of the russian federation. >> reporter: the report says that these former agents, poisoned alexander li litvinenko with titletanium 210. and this was their second murder attempt. the russians called it nonsense. >> everything that's being said by the british media, referring to an open and public hearing is a lie, an outrageous lie, and i can't find any other word to describe it. >> reporter: alexander lit venyenko's son and wife are happy with the findings. and they are calling to punishing russians. >> i'm calling immediately for
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the russian intelligence, for the imposition of targeted sanctions, against named individuals, and mr. putin. >> summoned, the russian am basambassador to the uk. they called it baseless. the british government said that it will freeze the those implicated in the killing. he was becoming a british citizen, only to be hunted down and poisoned on british soil by his former colleagues. it has no legal basis alone, but with putin's cooperation
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needed when it comes to defeating isil in syria, a full-blown diplomatic brawl is the last thing that the government wants. >> alexander litvinenko, once a dedicated spy, became one of putin's critics and it may have cost him his life. >> reporter: alexander lit litvinenko, died in a hospital, vladimir putin, he accused him of orchestrating his death. he was a russian spy when he joined the kgb in 1988, and rose to level of colonel in the 1990s. his ultimate boss at the state security agency was vladimir putin. but litvinenko became
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disillusioned with the organization over corruption, and the differences got him fired. he wrote a book called blowing up russia, the secret plot to bring him back to power. the bombings in moscow and two other buildings in 1989. it was the pre-sex for russia's second invasion of chechnya. he made personal attacks against putin, even accusing him of pedophilia. >> it was what he was trying to tell while he was away. which is basically anti-western, and it took them years to get his message through. >> reporter: given polonium at a swank hotel. it came weeks after a russian journalist was shot and killed outside of her moscow
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apartment. he has long been suspect in her murder as well. his son was by his bed as he suffered organ failure. >> he said if something happens to me, take care of your mother. and grow up to be a good person. i wished that he would recover. >> reporter: after his death, his wife fought for a public inquiry. >> i believe that the truth has finally been uncovered. the murderers have been unmasked. >> reporter: but those responsible for his death will likely never face justice. >> courtney keeley reporting for us. a former marine who spent four years in an iranian prison is finally home tonight. >> i love this city, i love it's people. i'm standing here, healthy, tall, and with my head held high. >> well, that is the sound of a free man.
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emir hekamati returned home to flint, michigan today. he was arrested in 2011 while visiting relatives. he was accused of spying our an for the united states in 2012. he and four other americans were released on saturday. and he thanked president obama and his local congressman. and we just learned that the ge for flint, michigan, rick snyder is testifying on capitol hill about the contaminated water. yesterday, his office released 200 something emails, aiming for transparency. >> reporter: from the beginning in april of 2014, when the officials changed the water source from the detroit system to the not so pristine flint river, rick snyder
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acknowledges the public's concern. even with a proven track record of providing perfectly good water for flint, there remains discern over the water. an expert verifies that the watering put out meets all of our standards, and flint water is safe to drink, but residents began complaining about the smelly brown water coming out of their taps n2014, in a brief to the governor, they blamed the weather for the water troubles. warm weather conditions are not only conducive to gack tierial growth, but more quickly. and then the blame game begins, after children test positive for lead. september of 2014, the governor's chief of staff writes to his boss saying, i can't figure out why the state is responsible.
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the real responsibility rests with the county, the city, and the kwa, the local waterer authority. and he adds that the state officials are concerned that it could be a political football. but since the issue is to help the citizens and their children, we're taking a proactive approach. in october of 2014, governor snyder requests daily updates on the water crisis, and water filters being distributed he said: said: i have press questions last night. and then the environmental quality acknowledges that the water testing should have been done from the beginning. our staff believed that they were constrained by consecutive tests, and i believe now they made a mistake. one of the last emails dated december 29th, 2014, by the independent task force created by the governor suggests where the blame really
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lies... in his state of the state address tuesday night, 20 months after the water crisis flint began, governor snyder apologizes. >> tomorrow, a special report, crisis in flint, it starts at 4:30 pacific. >> . >> financial markets in the u.s. rebounded today, largely thanks to the same commodity that had been forcing them down. oil topped $30 a barrel, settling at 29 and a half dollars, and stocks followed suit. the dow gained 1616 points today. and the nasdaq, despite the bounce back, analysts suspect that oil be cheap in the near future because of a glut in supply. john terrett has more. >> saudi arabia is producing
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all of this oil, and they played the oil card before in the 70s when the supplies were withheld. and now it's a different game completely. and crude is simply flash flooding the market as they are maintaining their own market share by knocking other producers off the board. [ bell ringing ] the dow bounced back on thursday, closing up 115 points after a wild ride on the market from the day before, since oil talk dominated the trading floor. the black stuff surged above $30 a barrel, and crude has still not found it's flaw. the problem is that the world is awash with oil. china, a key commodity cume comy consumer, needs far less oil, and in the u.s., we need less too, despite the lowest price at the pumps in a decade.
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and then saudi arabia, playing a game of double jeopardy. first up, they want to damage the chances of the high-tech oil producers, making america the second biggest producer in the world right now, and second, they want to damage iran's chances of turning a fast buck once their oil starts flowing again following the recent nuclear arms deal. >> the saudis are saying, we're not going to share the opec and they have opened the spigots as a way to not only control the market share, but prevent their rivals in the gulf from producing more oil. >> reporter: the saudis can afford to keep it up for a couple of years, and that's not true of other rivals, like nigeria, which is said to have an extraordinary meeting of the cartel. and big names in the business tell us how well they did in the last year, the 4th quarter earning season could
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play a big part in driving oil prices and stock prices in the short-term, long-term, it's anybody's guess. the longer this goes on, the better the chances of a $10 barrel of oil. great for us drivers, but too low to make drilling worthwhile for major companies. and the fear is that we could see major bankruptcies coming as a result of all of this. and that could add to the contagion. >> $10 a barrel. >> a former police officer in oklahoma city will spend the rest of his life behind bars, and then some. daniel was sentenced to 263 years in prison today. a jury convicted him last month of 18 counts of rape and sexual assault. he targeted women in poor communities while he was in uniform, and while he was on duty. aljazeera's heidi jo castro is live in oklahoma city.
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hidy. >> reporter: so tony, today when the verdict was read and sentenced him to 63 years in prison, daniel was stoic, meanwhile, in the courtroom, a murmur followed by tears of joy and relief. >> we stopped the serial rapist. >> reporter: former oklahoma city police officer, daniel will spend the rest of his life in prison for sexually assaulting at least eight women in an area where he paroled. >> i would like to thank god for those of us who believe us, and no matter how powerful he was, he had no power to do what was done to them. >> reporter: it happened in a six-month period during 2013 and 2014, while he was on duty. a jury convicted him on 18
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charges last month. jamie was his last victim. he assaulted the 51-year-old daycare worker in the back of his squad car. >> no matter who he is, tell it, don't let him get away with it. a police officer has a badge. >> previous victims had histories of drug abuse or prostitution. the state said that the officer targeted them, believing that no one would take their word over his, but lincoln had no criminal history, and she broke the case. >> i don't see myself as a hero, i did what i had to do. >> reporter: men while, the oklahoma police department has tried to make amends, by firing them and greasingly prosecuting the case. >> we're indecked to this community. and this is a terrible case, there's no way of changing that. >> no way of changing what
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happened to these victims. we can't go back and change the past. >> reporter: but those who live in the area that he once terrorized is a that they're not satisfied. calling for reform, and the system that allowed him to go through, the questions have been answered. >> do you feel safer in the neighborhood? >> safer, i know he's off the street. but to me, there may be more like him because of what happened. and i don't trust anybody. >> reporter: can you say today with 100% certainty that there are no officers committing these crimes on your force? >> we have no reason to believe that there are, and if there is ever an allegation, or a case that we need to investigate, we will do so. >> reporter: with his 253-year sentence, he will no longer patrol the streets, but in the shadows and corners, his crimes still loom.
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he will be in prison for the rest of his life, and the judge ruled against a motion made by the defense team for a new trial. he did not speak during the sentencing, and instead, we heard from three of the victims, and one of the women said that since the attack, she feels like she's dying on the inside. >> heidi, in oklahoma city, and it's cold there. and much of the east coast is getting ready for a blizzard. they will shut down the bus service until monday. and congress has instructed the capital police to look the other way when sledders show up on the grounds. all of this comes after the city was caught flat footed by an inch of snow last night. an inch of snow. aljazeera's mike viqueira has more. >> reporter: even washington's mayor had to admit it was a pathetic performance.
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>> we're very sorry for inadequate response. we believe that we did not provide adequate resources in a time where it could have made a difference in last night's commute. >> dc drivers are known for losing their cool with the first sight of snow, but yesterday was just a dusting, and the result, a new meaning to washington gridlock. slipping, sliding, standing stock still for hours on the capital beltway. commutes normally lasting an hour, taking as long ago 7. and even president obama's motorcade feeling the effects of the wintry mix. blaming it on the forecast. >> what we experienced last evening from this snow event was nowhere near what the forecast had been for weather in maryland. >> reporter: officials across the region vow next time will be different. and they will soon have a chance to prove it. what's coming next could be a
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storm for the ages. friday into saturday, 1 foot, 2 feet, as much as 30 inches of snow is expected. from kentucky to ohio, into the carolinas into new england. the storm is packing high winds, with much of maryland, dc and virginia under a blizzard warning. >> we're seeing everything line up for a major storm system, affect being the eastern third of the country, and affect being at least 39 million people with snow and cold temperatures and strong winds, which are very dangerous situation if they develop. >> millions could be snowed in and worse, losing electricity to heat their homes, and there's even the threat of roofs collapsing under the threat of heavy snow. >> reporter: the thing for the storm is the depth of the snow and want potential for wet snow, because the thing that really kills us in the winter is when snow weighs down trees enough to break and fall on to power lines. >> it's kicking in.
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>> long lines as people in the path of the storm prepare to hunker down, leaving store shelves barren. >> we have had a lot of ice melt, a lot of shovels and sleds. >> reporter: states of emergency have been declared in maryland, dc, virginia and pennsylvania. political leaders are trying to get out in front of the storm. they have a lot riding on public safety and getting the roads cleared and passible. >> it could take days, or even up to a week for them to dig out all local roads. i ask marylanders to be prepared and to be patient in the days ahead. >> reporter: talk of an historic storm, and those in the most populated regions are brace for the worst. >> coming up on the program, accusations of negligence. tough talk from a california congressman about a massive gas leak near los angeles.
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>> los angeles county claims the porter ranch gas leak poses no threat to public health. but three months after the leak began, the people there are not taking any chances. jennifer london has the report. >> reporter: sam and metawere supposed to be signing loan documents to buy the home of their dreams in porter ranch, california. instead, they're packing and moving 30 minutes away. >> it's very difficult when
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your three-year-old son, brandon, says mommy, i want to go home, every day it's hard. >> reporter: the family joins and thousand other people forced to flee their home to escape methane gas that has been leaking into the air since october. >> our 13-year-old daughter has been sick as well. missed school, with a horrible cough. >> reporter: infrared cameras capture the plume, but don't be fooled by what you can't see with the neighborhood eye. enough gas has been leaking from the storage authority to fill the empire state building every day, and if you get close enough to the leak, can you hear it. >> it sounds like a hell of a lot of gas escaping >> reporter: with no safety shut off valve, the only way to stop the leak is to drill a relief well. and that's taking months. congressman brad sherman and other leaders took a tour facility this week. part of the show and tell that the gas company is making, but
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it's showing something else. >> the people who put that well down were not intending that that casing would be used to inbe ject natural gas or withdraw it. they were trying to extract oil in the 1950s. and now in 2015 and 2016, so cal gas rise on that old pipe, and does not do the testing that would have told them that there were anomalies in the pipe. did not replace the sub safety valve. and the regulators gave their blessing to the whole package, gee, what can go wrong? >> are you saying that the regulators have accepted the package. >> they have accepted a low value of safety. and so cal has match thadder standard. >> reporter: so cal gas has repeatedly said in an interview
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last week that there are no basis for claims of negligence. >> we operate in safety and see to all of regulations, and we're in total compliance. >> if you say that the gas company is in compliance, it says that the regulations are out of date. >date. >> as we moved forward, we told the governor and all of agencies, working closely to set up a framework on where we go from here. >> reporter: what is clear, the communities have been displaced, two schools have been closed. and the local businesses are struggling because the customers have moved away. >> obviously there's plenty of blame to go around from the largest natural gas leak in history. >> wha what do you plan to do? what do you personally plan to do? >> right now, we're trying to push so cal and the agencies and get relief from the small business administration, and there's a long list.
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but it has to end with having regulations on natural gas storage facilities. >> reporter: aljazeera wanted to speak with the agency for natural gas, but we were told that they would not be on the interview. instead, no comment on any remarks made by congressman sherman and we can not offer any interview at this time, but what we can say is safety is our top priority at porter ranch. they rent on to say that the agency is issuing emergency regulations, such as testing, but those are pending review and will not take affect until february. that's not good enough for the monjos. >> i don't trust anything that they have to say. can they guarantee in a it's not harmful? i would like to get that in writing. >> reporter: the residents are not only sick, but tired of
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waiting, and they are taking their calls to shutter the entire storage facility all the way to washington. [ chanting ] jennifer london, aljazeera, porter ranch, california. >> still ahead on the program, putin accused in the death of a former kgb agent. and the oscars, rolling with criticism.
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>> the uk's inquiry into the death of alexander. >> so is this the machine who approved alexander litvinenko's murder? putin probably gave the go ahead. russia has poured scorn on the reports of course, and it's ministry of foreign affairs said that the uk itself has something to hide. >> more than once, we have said that interested in the death of lit vinyenko and the death of other russian citizens, sometimes under strange circumstances in great breton. >> reporter: but russia is no stranger to political killings.
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late winter night in 2015, and a body lies on a bridge in central moscow. a former deputy prime minister and critic of vladimir putin. a chilling signal, his opposition colleagues concluded, since my those guarding putin's authority. he had been shot meters from the kremlin's walls. in 2019, a lawyer called serge mag ninski had exposed a tax refund fraud, only for the authorities to turn the tables and jail him for the very same crime. the same year that litvinenko was killed, a journalist was gunned down in her moscow apartment building. she had reported for years on the bloody years of chechnya, and these only the most infamous cases.
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the full list is much longer. journalists, lawyers, activists, opposition leaders, all murdered, all had in one way or another sided against russia's political elite. russia may be a modern capitalist state. but according to some, there are aspects of its authoritarian past that it still clings to. [ speaking russian ] >> >> interpreter: it tells us that 70 years of soviet rule, that the kgb, putin, and one of the instruments is murder. >> so did putin approve litvinenko's death? >> i think that the evidence is circumstantial, and interpretive, and yet there's a strong body of opinion, in britain included, that
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everything which goes wrong, putin is responsible. there is very little there's very little evidence of that. >> reporter: regardless, criticizing the kremlin may be as dangerous in the 21st century as it was in the 20t 20th. >> it is. and a professor of international affairs, she's also a senior fellow at the world policy institute. and niƱa, good to have you back on the program. and it has been too long. this is a hot report. it's being debated in the west. and in the uk obviously. some tough talk there from david cameron, but what can they do? >> i don't think that they can do much. the word probably cancels it out. because when you say that the kremlin was probably involved, and that investigation was gone for about ten years, what the kremlin is saying back is that
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it's politically motivated, and it is, it's politically motivated. it was and the kremlin has a way out. >> and he's already saying that it's politically motivated. how closely did you follow this? >> well, everybody knew it was a big, big story. it was a huge deal, because in 2016, it was only putin's second term as president, and he was two years into his second term, and he was incredibly popular in the west as well. and the economy was booming, he was a great democrat, and he was still being good friends with george w. bush. so everybody was expecting that probably the ffb, not the kremlin was involved in this murder, along with other
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murders that we just mentioned on the program. but it was swept under the rug and done over. and so now when it's resurrected ten years later, putin says, you don't like me and therefore, you're doing what you want. >> what do you think about the rub between these two men, litvinenko and putin? >> there was not that much rub. >> he was a critic. he accused him at one point of being a pedophile. >> there was a lot of critics of putin, and a lot of people say things about putin that putin doesn't like to hear. and a lot of them are being prosecuted, depending on how important or unimportant they are in their criticism. but actually, i am of the school of thought that putin doesn't necessarily, and most likely does not give those orders, and i think that there's deniability. the issue is that it's part of the same russian culture that gives everybody else.
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and the critic comes out who actually decides to president the boss. >> and that it really doesn't go all the way to the top. >> it can happen because -- >> did you really just say some low level flunky -- >> absolutely, i think that's how -- was killed. there was a flunky who was doing a favor to putin, and killing her on his birthday as a gift. i don't think that the president himself does give official order, and therefore, the report says probably, because actually, there's no real evidence. >> gotcha, so now there's talk of more asset freezes for those implicated in the report, including uk travel bans, perhaps against vladimir putin, that's not going to happen. >> he's actually going -- according to what we know about russia, inside of russia, by the way, which is already in
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dispute, that he may have been involved in that. so the two people who were directly implicated are the ones with travel bans and frozen assets, but they're waiting also not traveling, so it really doesn't do much for putin, though he can spin it in his favor. >> nina, great to see you, as always. international affairs. she's a senior fellow at the world policy institute. and great to have you back on the program. >> thank you. >> secretary of state, john kerry, said today that u.s. and iraq are working together to locate three missing americans, the iraqi prime minister al-abadi in davos, switzerland, and three american reporters were kidnapped over the weekend. and he said that they're just missing. today, the iraqis named several shia groups suspected.
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they're calling for the immediate release of ther correspondent who has been missing for two days. he had been covering intense fighting ifight. he shared objectivity to the outside world. and still ahead, seeing the forestthrough the trees. how lawyers and environmentalists teamed up to build a better business plan, and the ocean phenomenon.
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>> the logging industry in oregon has been working for years to make it more sustainable. and it has been positive. we report on new found productivity on the frontier. >> so you see that fir there, that wouldn't have been here in the past. >> he runs a collaborative group for ten years. loggers and politicians and scientists and politicians try to find common ground. this area was logged heavily without much thought for the land for a century. >> the government increasingly litigated and shut us down, so they were impacting our livelihoods and what we knew and valued as a lifestyle.
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and when that happens, it creates a lot of anger and distrust. >> reporter: less timor cutting meant more growth, more tree infestations and more fuel for fires, and similar conditions exist across the acres. but getting tree huggers and tree cutters to sit down and be talk is never easy. >> it never happens until everyone's back is against the wall. until everyone is losing. we weren't getting enough wood to keep our mills going, and our backs were against the wall. and where the environmental community was losing were in terms of fire and insect damage. >> they used research for thinning projects, and volunteers contradicted thousands of hours of work in the woods. the amount of timber coming out has tripled, enough to keep the local mill operating and the log trucks rolling, but the
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u.s. forest service has the final say on any land management proposals. >> we live in a legal system. >> many call them a drop in the bucket. he works for a company that buys and sells milling machinery, but he has no local customers left. this nearby mill used to be the area's biggest employer. the enormous buildings are used to dry hay now. >> our county keeps getting smaller and smaller. people finally can't hang on anymore. some may move out of town. >> mark sees hope. >> it depends on communication and where you're willing to go, and admitting that you may have been mistaken in the past on the way to do things, and if you can have those
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conversations, the land management can move forward in good ways. >> so sea levels are rising, and it's not just a slow phenomenal we will see decades into the future. the affects are happening now. king tied is hitting san francisco, and the water is expected to rise a foot higher than usual. and anymore, runways attar airports and businesses could be underwater. >> this is the embarcadero, san francisco's waterfront, and it's inundated by seawater. we're in the middle of a king tide. and you know how tides work. the sun and the moon basically pull on our oceans, and yank on them by their gravitational pull. and every so often, you get a spring tide where the sun and the moon align, and their gravitational pull is hard or the ocean, well, right now, we're in the king tied,
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especially closer to the sun, and it means that the high tide is about a foot and a half higher than it typically is. and you combine that with the el nino weather patterns, and you look at another foot of sea rising. and in a storm situation, with 3, 4, 5, feet of see level rise. this is a glimpse of the future. this is the kind of sea level rise that the alignmenttologists say that we're going to see around the united states and the world by 2100. the lives of tens of millions, maybe hundreds of millions of people are going to be affected. their drinking water, the infrastructure, and the roads they live o. all of those things will be inundate bid water, the same way that we see it sloshing up and down today.
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so the city managers are going to cope with years of that by the end of the century. >> that's jacob ward reporting from san francisco, and what the academy plans to do about its racial divide.
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>> so hollywood has a
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diversity when it comes to nominations. all 20 of the categories, lack of a minority nominee. and some of the biggest and brightest are speaking out. will smith and his wife, jada pinkett smith, are announcing theiring intentions to stay away from the february award ceremony. >> the academy reflects the industry, in hollywood, and the industry reflects america. there's a regressive slide toward separatetism, toward racial and religious disharm knee. and that's not the hollywood that i want to leave behind. >> wow, joining me now, lola oginaki, cultural entertainment. and lee hawkins for the wall street journal. good to see you.
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we were together over the summer, right. >> yes. >> let me start with you, that's will smith's critique of hollywood, and what's your critique? >> there's definitely a diversity problem, and as spike lee said and as i've said in covering this industry, it has a lot to do with the fact that african-americans are not gate keepers and owners in this industry, and as a result of not collaborating economically to make some of these things happen to get the green light potential and to learn how to be able to finance films, they're in a situation. this is something that doesn't happen overnight. it's something that happens over decades, and it's hard for individuals to do it without the collective group involved. >> local a. you've been following this for years now, and what's your critique of hollywood? >> it's nothing new. and until there are systemic changes, it's not going to change. if you look at the democratic
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makeup of the academy -- >> are you ready for this? 94% of the academy members are white, 77% are male, the average age of academy members is 62. >> that is indeed correct. >> what do we expect? >> more it startling numbers, only 2% are black, and 2% hispanic, and american indian and be asian combined only .5%, so how can you vote if you're not given ballot? >> what are we to expect when the demographics speak? in way? isn't this exactly what we should expect? >> it is, how can you expect an outcome to be different when the voting is so prominently white? what do you expect? and the interesting thing about how the academy is comprised, you have to be invite to become a member, and two current members have to ratify your invitation, and then if you
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make it to the final round, the board of governors has to ratify that invitation. so that's how it worked. there are only white men in the room, and they're only inviting people that they know, and the same people have to be ratified by the other two people in the room, guess what the demographic is going to look like. >> i want to play a sound bite by spike lee, who has been lighting this issue up, and he has been for decades. and he's talking about what's happening in the c suites in the studios. let me play this and have you piggyback with your comments. >> some type of rule, to quote a yes. in the nfl, if a head coach opens up in the executive position, you can not hire anyone who interview minority candidates. well, you can't find a qualified candidate. that's bs. >> so lee, the rooney rule, the
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national football league for the hollywood studios? >> that was the concept, the black coaches outperformed but that's the thing, there's a quantifiable outcome and result for sports, and it may be an apples and oranges comparison, but it's an interesting concept that spike has raised. but he's putting the onus and the pressure on the industry to make the change, and the question is, what can black celebrities do within their own power to make this change? >> so here's my problem with this. you apparently, with this entire debate, aren't black people, women, hispanics, completely capable, within their own power, to be absolutely disruptive of this own system? >> well, they're more capable now, because they have the tools. you can actually make a film on your iphone, like the women who made the film, tangerine, but
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that's an incredible film, made on their iphone, by two transgender woman, and the man who played a transgender woman, he's nominated. do you understand? you can go outside of the system. but you be nominated. >> let me be quiet. >> let's look at history and what sammy davis jr. did, and nat king cole d all of these people were able to sacrifice and say we're not going to play this venue as a result of segregation, and what's required, with any kind of boycott situation is collaboration. you have to -- >> from finance, you have to be your own distribution. is that -- >> if black celebrities were doing it back then, the question is why aren't they able to do it now? individuals have done it. oprah winfrey, tyler perry, and you need 50 tyler perrys to get that seat at the academy and
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make it make a difference in the layup. >> but tony and lee, if you think about it, celebrities can boycott all they want to. it's up to the movie viewer to boycott. unless you tell these people, you use your dollars to communicate to hollywood, there's no incentive to change. hollywood doesn't see black or white. they see green, and so if you decide you're going to cot and your group says, i'm not going to watch another hollywood film. >> ride along two is a success. >> which won't be nominated. >> but if that's a successful film, and that's making money, does that say to hollywood, let's make more films? i know it probably sees let's make more comedies. >> correct, it does, and you can make comedies with the understanding that they will never be nominated. lee, you want to add something? >> there's not unification
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among black celebrities. you have pacification. >> what do you mean. >> i mean they're complaisant. has there been one meeting about this? other than making an angry tweet or a youtube video, have they met as a group of people to
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