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it's junk, garbage. i could give you a long list of other words for it, and i can guarantee you that this investigation, what it will find is a big fat nothing. >> the 39-year-old manning said he has not yet decided if sunday super bowl will be his final game. that's all of our time. thanks, john seigenthaler joins us. >> we have a spot focused on the granite state. most of the remaining presidential candidates are now in new hampshire. the state's key primary is one week from today. ted cruz an democrat hillary clinton will build on their wins in iowa. their competitors are looking for an opening. lisa stark is in new hampshire where republican donald trump is holding a rally tonight. >> he is, indeed. you can hear him behind me. a very large and enthusiastic crowd here for donald trump. his first rally since he came
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in. second place in iowa trump telling the crowd that he's happy with his second place finish taking record for caucus voters who will come out in the republican caucus. he said it's okay if he came in second in new hampshire that would be okay but let's be clear he wants to come ahead here in new hampshire and wants his first victory here. on the democratic side hillary clinton is also looking to doing well in new hampshire, a state in a has been good to her in the past. >> after iowa, a double dose of the clintons to whip up support in the next context. >> i'm so thrilled i'm coming to new hampshire after winning iowa. >> it was a squeaker of a win, but the campaign will fake it. hillary clinton told her supporters they will need to work hard this week as she battles bernie sanders, who has
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a considerable lead in the polls. so even as clinton courts voters here, she's looking ahead. >> new hampshire has to decide going toe-to-toe with the republicans to make sure they don't recognize us again. >> sanders from neighboring vermont is well-known and well liked in new hampshire. >> last night we began the political revolution, not just in iowa, not just in new hampshire, but all over this country. >> the polls are likely to tighten, but even hillary clinton's number one supporter told al jazeera she has her work cut out for her. >> i any she'll win. if she ha gives a good debate and we have enough time. we'll see. >> what we saw last night we saw that old reagan coalition coming back together again.
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>> while ted cruz has a win in his column, having another one here may not be easy. >> he'll have more of a challenge. it's a different demographic here. more libertarian, and a lot less socially and religiously conservative. >> and established candidates such as marco rubio could pull out another surprise showing in new hampshire. >> i can take our message to people who have not voted for us before and bring them on. >> he's squaring off against the three governors who have spent more time here. as for donald trump, he has a wide lead in the polls, but what now after iowa? >> do we think that some air will go out of his balloon now that he's not the winner. >> that's the concern for the trump folks. he has to win here. second and third-place finish. other candidates will be emboldened to go after him aggressively. >> so for both sides the next week is critical, and a state
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voters in new hampshire are coming out. these folks have been here for hours. whoever they support in new hampshire there will be plenty of time to look at events and there will an debate on the republican and democratic side before next tuesday. new hampshire, the first in the nation primary. we'll see what happens a week from today. >> all right, lisa, thank you. and as we mentioned hillary clinton won the iowa democratic caucus. she barely edged out vermont senator bernie sanders. it was the closest caucus ever. torch trump and marco rubio were close behind. ben carson finished a distant fourth. for a closer look at a
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surprising night in iowa, senior political correspondent michael shure. >> the democrats do, indeed, have a close race. at least for now. and that the republicans are not just going to hand their nomination to donald trump. also the turnout. something that people talk about all the time is so important. well, what people thought about turn out was that it would help donald trump. when 64% of the electorate was evangelical christians in iowa, it ended up helping ted cruz. >> gogod bless the great state of iowa. >> they came out in huge numbers. according to entrance polls, 64% of all g.o.p. caucus goers identified as evangelical. >> joy cometh in the morning. >> iowa, has proclaimed to the world the morning is coming. morning is coming.
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>> cruz relied on the religious vote, and he took a risk by opposing ethanol subsidies. it clearly worked. he had the support of the conservative representative steve king. >> i believe that ted cruz is the candidate, who is the answer to my prayers, the candidate who god will use to restore the soul offing. >> this combination was too much for donald trump to overcome in a state that saw polls pluck wait between the two. >> we finished second, and i want to tell you something. i'm just honored. i'm really honored. >> they tell me that we have no chance because my hair was not gray enough and my boots were too high. >> marco rubio's bronze-medal finish may identify with those who are seeking for an alternative to cruz and trump. but the democrats provided drama
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late in the morning when they gave the win to hillary clinton, though barely. >> i won it. it's a lot better to win. >> senator bernie sanders may end up winning more of the popular vote in the state. for sanders it was an impressive showing from a candidate who was at a huge organizational and polling deficit for many months. but got out his voters. entry polls show sanders won 84% of voters 17-29. >> what iowa has begun tonight is a political revolution. >> sanders was able to spend many months campaigning here in iowa where the democratics favor him. that won't happen in other states. even if new hampshire provides a good result. there were two winners here. hillary clinton won most by not losing, and ted cruz, who was able to turn out the voters and turn back the phenomenon of donald trump, at least for now.
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>> now the race moves on from iowa. some of the conservative voters we spoke with here are hoping that they sent a candidate out to the rest of the country that won't fade as some have in the past. also iowa does not fade away itself because when it comes to november iowa is still a swing state in this election. >> that's michael shure. now ben carson is accusing ted cruz of playing dirty tricks. carson's team claims the cruz campaign spread rumors that carson had dropped out of the race. it followed a report that carson would be taking a break and going to florida. cruz is now apologized to retired neurosurgeon. james astle in johnson iow, iowa, tonight. what headlines do you see coming out of iowa? >> this is not a normal election
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finish in america. about 60 of the vote on the republican side went to ted cruz, donald trump, and ben carson, and yet what we saw was normal politics reasserting itself after such a strange unconventional campaign. i think the ground game of ted cruz really did put donald trump and some of his inflated predictions for himself rather back in his box, and what was perhaps most striking of all for me was the late serge by marco rubio to some extent united the somewhat conservative main treatment republican vote and took some votes off of donald trump, it would seem. >> is this a surface wound or is it fatal? >> we can't say it's fatal. he moves on to new hampshire, where he has an enormously
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strong lead. that is likely to be cut back a little bit. it is deincarcerated and he has los--it is deflated, and he has lost that aura he has worked up over the past seven months or so. he must-win new hampshire. >> those are picks of donald trump we're watching right now in new hampshire. you mentioned that you've got donald trump, senator ted cruz, ben carson, it really does form a large majority of outsiders. those who really, you know, want to throw th others out. even if marco rubio has a good showing, it doesn't look like, at least based on what we're seeing in iowa, that the establishment has enough votes to win the majority of the votes
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in new hampshire. >> no one has the majority of the votes right now. we're looking at a protracted, messy, still for some time unpredicted three-way contest between ted cruz, donald trump on the establishment side marco rubio, and how the late force also play out, consolidate the vote. we may even end up with a contested co convention. i think we can be pretty sure of that three-way contest going ahead. >> what i was just saying, though, it does seem, again, the outsiders, the non-establishment candidates have real strength in the republican party like they've never had before. do you see this as different from four years ago, eight years ago? >> yeyes, there clearly is.
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there is a general disaffection with the establishment going right across the political spectrum. it's left to right but especially pronounced on the republican side. donald trump has harnessed in speckly well. he's expanded that anti-establishment vote. but it's apparent in ted cruz's picture. his success of the two. also in ben carson's fading appeal. i think we can look at long-standing factors and the polarization working unworkable politics. longstanding, this is also very much a harvest of the financial crisis, and the rather recovery of wages especially with the americans in the middle of things. >> james astle, it's great to see you. thank you very much. now to the water contamination crisis in flint, michigan, where an unknown number of children have been dealing with lead
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ex-pour. and the fbi is taking in a criminal probe of what happened and who is to blame. andy is in flint tonight. >> we're at the house of prayer where hundreds have hone up for a gospel concert. the pastor here said they want to lift up everyone's spirits. and when they're done they'll have thousands of cases of water donated from all over the country. their' not the only ones demanding some answers. >> the fbi says it's teeming up t with the federal agencies and federal prosecute necessary michigan. the fbi said its focus will be on whether anybody violated federal law. on tuesday, flint's mayor called for the speedy removal of all
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lead pipes starting with those at the highest risk of exposure. >> we want to start with the highest risk homes of kids under six and pregnant women this must happen immediately. i'm mother rally obligated to use every bit of the power and authority my office has to make flint's water safe. and the city successful for the people who live and work here. >> under a state-appointed emergency manager, flint switched it's water supply to save money. instead, it used polluted water from the flint river which led to corrosion and supply lines and led to contamination in residents' tap water. also the top environmental official made her first trip to flint since the start of the water crisis. promising to dedicate all the resources which she called sobering. >> we're not going to resolve
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this problem overnight. it will take both short- and long-term commitments. we're here for the long haul. >> mccarthy has ordered a trace in the epa's response. but they made it clear after switching from detroit's water system in 2014, led to the crisis. >> we're here today because of the state appointed emergency manager that the city of flint would stop purchasing treated water that well served them for 50 years and instead purchased untreated water and not treat that water. all to save money. >> that former emergency manager that she blamed is darnell earl.
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he's now refusing to testify in congressional hearings tomorrow. democrats are asking for rick snyder governor of michigan, if he can compel early to testify tomorrow. >> bill cosby in court. and the latest on the winter storm that brings blizzard conditions to the midwest.
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>> the jet had just taken off from mogadishu and was 14,000 feet when the blast happened. the pilots turned the plane around and landed safely. there was no immediate action for that explosion. the first major government offensive since the start of the russian airstrikes on september 30th. meanwhile, in geneva, opposition groups canceled the scheduled meeting to syria. they're condemning meetings. secretary of state john kerry in italy with
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representatives from more than 20 countries to talk about the next phase in the fight against isil. kerry said that the u.s.-led coalition is ready to intensify its efforts but said the u.s. is opposed to ground forces in libya. hashem ahelbarra has more from rome. >> taking on isil reminds a top priority for the international community. the gathering that was established in 2014 to stem the rise of isil in iraq and syria says there is a long way to go. the ongoing fighting and the deteriorating humanitarian situation in syria is likely to push the defeat against isil. the within why u.s. secretary of state john kerry urged the syrian government to allow aid to reach those badly affected in places. >> children are suffering, not as a result of an action of war
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but the consequence of absolutely intentional tactic. and as i mentioned that tactic of using staff aggravation as an instrument of war is directly against the law of war. >> key players in the coalition like saudi arabia and turkey insist that isil won't be defeated as long as bashar al-assad stays in power. this is another potential battleground for the coalition. libya has been marred by in-fighting. an off shoot of long coastal area of the door step. the additional coalition is considering a military operation to stem the rise of isil. >> we know that the more daesh is squeezed, the more it is tempted its terrorist activities elsewhere. by targeting other countries and
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we are witnessing renewed activity in libya and in sub-sahara africa, or by looking to strike inside our own countries. >> but libya remains politically divided. the government was announced a few weeks ago but was soon rejected by the internationally recognized parliament in the east. the political en pass played into the hands of isil that continues to expand in the oil rich northamption african country. despite the ongoing airstrikes with isil and iraq and syria, the group controls huge swaths of land and is expanding in africa. there is a growing consensus that for military action against isis to succeed it should be followed by a diplomatic push to end war in syria and infighting in libya. al jazeera, rome. >> michael lions is al jazeera's
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national security contributor, and he's in our studio. mike, welcome. secretary kerry came out and said members of the coalition against isil needs to intensify efforts in libya. what does that mean? >> short on detail. didn't give any more information with regard to what that means. secretary carter came out today and said some of these partners have not done enough. they've got a plan, they say, but they have not put out any kind of detail. >> this seems strange to me. it seems like every month we get a new plan or a new sentence that seems to send the u.s. government strategy in a different direction. >> and the statement they were going to degrade and destroy isil, and what we're doing is isolating them and keeping them contained. they're going to toss this over to the next administration while this gets worse. >> how can the u.s. address libya when it has not solved
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syria. >> you have russia now really putting a wrench in the works of any kind of peace agreement that could happen here. and you lay over a rock. you've got a new american commander who wants more troops, potentially new command center afghanistan. so the military strategy, i think, is very disjointed. >> you mentioned a great deal of turnover because of the wars the u.s. has carried out. how difficult is that for the government, and has this been the right strategy? >> in some ways we fought 13 wars over last year at a time. while each of these commanders has to get their feet wet and assess the situation we have a new one going into afghanistan, is he going to get new troops? i don't think so. >> you're suggesting that the obama administration is simply going to stay the course, and let the next administration deal with this? >> they're fundamentally going to contain the situation there, and perhaps they'll get a break.
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we're going after infrastructure. we're trying to do more things and take down their capability of generating more revenue. >> what sort of grade does the u.s. government get when it comes to syria and isil? >> i think we have to take ownership of libya in particular. going back to syria we have not led on any level from the world's perspective. even though now you've got other forces acting on the situation. when soil $29 a barrel that hurts the iraqi government and their ability to fund their operation. most other nations are scrambling because that have as well. >> do you think the u.s. military is able to--is this the way the u.s. military would like to handle this? are they being led directly by president obama? >> i don't think anyone in the military wants to send 100,000 troops back to iraq, but i do think that the military does think that they can do more, present different courses of action. and get americans close to the
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battle, maybe not inside the battle, but at some point we have to stop sending radios, blankets and training missions and realize we have to get results. >> thanks, mike lions. north korea plans to launch a long-range rocket this month that can carry a nuclear weapon. south korea says the north will pay a severe price if this goes ahead with that launch. no. china, the new lunar year. it's not going well. freezing temperatures and a lot of snow left 100,000 would be passengers stranded in one station. it's a potentially dangerous scene because there were so many people and they were trapped inside. china is expecting a record number of train passengers for the new year celebration. women in combat. why some in congress are
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skeptical. and renters' rights. why arkansas families have little recourse when landlords fail to provide the basics.
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>> today the senate on armed services committee listened to testimony about whether to let women serve in combat. >> john n theory the debate over
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whether women can serve on the front or commandos was settled last year when they opened all military jobs to qualified women, no question. now the question is anything but settled. >> more than two ours of senate testimony over the experiment at twentynine palms, california, where there were mixed units. they came under immediate pfeiffer by john mccain, for dismissing the results without observing the training firsthand. >> so you with a straight face make claims that the study was flawed and biased, even if you didn't go see it, the study being performed. >> he argued that the experiment was not a true test because the troops only had to pass a
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minimum fitness test to take part. >> no one had to meet a standard for these ground combat units. nobody. there were no standards in there. >> women's advocates including many military veterans say that the marine corp experiment was a thinly disguised way of excluding women from the infantry. among those critics. >> the design of those research over all was very flawed. first of all, these female marines were screened for the basic physical fitness task over competing in large part with male marines who had huge experience in training and experience. >> they were too quick to dismiss the physical differences between men and women when it came to performing group tasks, something concede who had admitted that in combat size matters. >> being big, strong, and having
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a certain body mass gives you an advantage. >> there was broad agreement that standards may never be lowered to accommodate women, but some senators are highly skeptical that the promise will be kept in promoting women in the military. >> it's hard to imagine down the road, five years from now, ten years from now if we don't have successful graduations from this physically demanding program, it's hard to imagine that this conversation won't take a different tone and i don't see how we can guarantee that in the future these standards will not be diminished. >> the last thing in the world a woman needs is to join an unit with everyone looking over their shoulder saying, well, you're not the same as we are. so i don't think anybody here thinks that standards should be lowered. >> the middle services have their orders to begin opening
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jobs to women as of this spring. the top generals have promised to salute smartly and carry out the mission. it all comes down to those standards as the navy secretary put it just as there is no good arguments for lowering standards there, is no good argument from keeping someone who meets the standards of serving. >> a vote to overturn a presidential veto has failed. the legislation was in attempt to repeal part of the affordable care act and remove federal funding from planned parenthood. the house overturned the veto, it was 281-186. it failed to get the majority that it needed. house republicans are gearing up for budget fights with the white house. one area is the battle against heroin. presidential candidate i in
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2014 opioids including heroin were involved in 28,000 deaths. now to california and the attorney general that state filed criminal charges against the southern california gas company. socle gas is reported to refuse announcement of the leak. it claims that it does not pose a threat. in arkansas state housing laws offer little protection for renters in many cases landlords can require full rent payments without providing even basic services. "america tonight" christof putzel has more. >> what is your biggest fear? >> why do you stay? >> i don't have no money, and i don't have where to go. >> on september 21st, just furs
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day before christmas, the residents the apartment complex in little rock, arkansas, received a notice that was hardly in the holiday spirit. >> the 65-year-old carolyn ford was among the 100 families who were told to vacate their homes because the complex had been condemned. >> did you ever think you were going to be in a position like this? >> no. >> what are you going to do? >> i don't know. i really don't. >> the fire chief found the conditions so bad he called them life-threatening. among the problems were widespread mold, exposed wiring and faulty plumbing. >> when you moved in here had you heard stories about this place? >> yes. >> but you still moved in. >> only ones who would take me because i didn't have no money. >> this grandmother's plight is not uncommon. tenant advocates long considered
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arkansas to be one of the worst places to be a renter. if you're a low income renter your options for housing can be especially weak. >> the roof fell in. >> the roof fell in? >> yes. >> was anybody living there? >> yeah, they were actually asleep at the time. >> fernandez is also a resident a at alexander apartments. >> oh, my god, this is a dead animal. >> yes. >> for tenants the legal recourse is limited. landlords aren't required to provide the basics, working plumbing, heating, hot water, unless it's written into the lease. >> alexander apartments is one of at least three complexes to be condemned by the city in the last year and a half. for tenants the negative impact of arkansas' landlord tenant laws have been well documented. >> we're not taking any media at the property. >> we tried speaking with jason
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bolden, a real estate attorney and landlord who owns the alexander apartments along with the other properties. >> i have no comment. >> the residents had sued the city to keep the complex open. for now the court has granted them a restraining order, and for some residents it's their only hope. >> what are you going to do if they condemn the apartment? >> i don't have no place to go. >> are you going to a shelter? >> i don't have anything. >> christof putzel, al jazeera, little rock, arkansas. >> can se--you can see more of christof's report tonight. three teenagers are under arrest in connection with a fatal shooting at an homeless encampment. three people were killed, and others were wounded last week. in what the locals call the jungle, charges have been not
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announced against the teens ages 13, 16, and 17. police are not yet suggested a motive for the shootings. department of justice investigating another police department excessive force and racial discrimination. the review is expected to take more than a year. tv icon bill cosby appeared in a pennsylvania court today. he's trying to get the sexual assault case against him dismissed. also in court a former prosecutor who decided not to charge cosby in the case over a decade ago. john terrett is in pennsylvania. john? >> john, good evening to you. this is a modern court case, but it is rooted in events that took place more than a decade ago. and at it's very center was a deal struck between the then district attorney and bill cosby
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not to prosecute the comedian intended to be forever? entertainer bill cosby arrived in court in pennsylvania looking every one of his 78 years. there was one issue, a 2005 non-prosecution agreement with a previous district attorney rule out prosecutor cosby. the case stems from a case where an employee who claims that cosby drugged and sexually assaulted her. they had several reasons for not charging cosby, because she did not report it incidentally, and she made inconsistent statements. on cross examination, he made it clear that he thought cosby had
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inappropriately touched andrea constan but that her evidence did not add up. all of these things created a situation where she ruined her credibility and would not be believed by a jury, he said. he also said that the decision not to prosecute cosby 11 years ago meant that the comedian could not take the fifth forcing him to testify in a case where she hoped would bring her some measure of justice. celebrity lawyer gloria allred is watching the case carefully. she represents many of the more 50 women who claimed that cosby assaulted them, women for whom a civil settlement would be their best address. >> mr. cosby would seek to exclude evidence that he, in fact, gave quaaludes to women when that was his testimony. does he want to exclude the truth?
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i thought mr. cosby always wanted to have his day in court. now he appears to want to dismiss a day if in court, that criminal case. >> bill cosby has repeatedly denied any wrongdoing. and john, one of bill cosby's accusers in california has withdrawn her lawsuit because they could not corroborate any of the evidence she brought forward. now they have to decide to scrap the case completely or go with bill cosby's 2005 deposition or go on without that 2005 deposition. we'll know more tomorrow. >> thank you. in nebraska the storm moved across the plains. several states are bracing for nor snow. meteorologist kevin corriveau is here with more.
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>> meteorologist: that's right. one storm, two major weather events going on. you can see here on the satellite image, this is the area of low pressure that i'm moving to parts of iowa. we're going to break it down first of all down towards the south where we're seeing that severe weather. tornadoes did pop up across parts of mississippi as well as alabama. we want to move in closer and show you where that threat is going to continue for the rest of the evening. these lines have been pushing up from the southwest to the northeast. we've seen tornado warnings, which had been dropped, but we're still under a tornado watch area for most of this area. here is where we saw the line of tornadoes eight of them so far. that were reported. that's the preliminary count that we're watching right here. so for tornado watchings we're looking at the southern part of mississippi. the western part of alabama as well as parts of tennessee and kentucky as well. not just that, but with all of
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this rain then comes the flooding, and over here towards around the area of jackson, mississippi, we're looking at flash flood warnings that are now in effect. we're looking at the heavy snow making its way to the north. i want to show you what has been happening in parts of minnesota. highway 14 is a dividing line in the area. anything south of highway 14 in terms of highways and state roads is now closed as of 2:30 this afternoon. so far we have seen about 235 accidents on the highways in this area. and if you were planning on flying out of minneapolis, five and a half hour wait for that area. i want to take you back and show you what we can expect to see in terms of the blizzard. that is still in effect here across parts of nebraska as well as kansas and part of iowa and also minnesota. that is going to last all the way through the evening with very strong winds. you can see we're looking at omaha picking up 27 with high
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winds to the west and very low visibilities where you see that area of blue and purple. that is white out conditions right now. >> all right, kevin, thank you. and coming up next on the broadcast. early warning. how the pacific northwest is getting ready for a possible mega quake.
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>> texas officials reporting the first known case of the zika virus reported in the united states. it was contracted sexually, not
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by mosquito bite. the world health organization said zika, which may be linked to severe brain damage in newborns is considered an international emergency. summit was held at the white house, the top priority advancing the deck texas of west coast earthquakes. researchers are working on a new early warning system. alan schauffler is in seattle. >> there is still no way we can predict when and wear an earthquake is going to hit, but we can get a warning from a couple of seconds to a couple of minutes about when the roughest shaking is coming to specific areas. that could be enough time to save thousands of lives and shorten the recovery time. >> scientists are looking for a few seconds of advance warning
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developing a sensor system that will they will them quickly when an earthquake ritz. >> it will quickly determine the size and location of that event and transmit that to use necessary population centers with how long it will take them to experiencing the shaking. >> earthquake, earthquake, strong shaking expected in 21 seconds. >> those few extra seconds could make a huge difference in the warning can be spread to the public fast. >> it could save many thousands of lives. >> the west cost has particular reason to need that extra time. time that could be bought by an expanded sensor array. >> we're sitting on a ticking tomorrow bomb. for the pacific northwest it's not if but when this part of the country, not normally
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experienced with earthquakes will experience a magnitude 9 earthquake. a major area of interest, the cascadia seduction zone that stretches from california to vancouver island. it's where two pieces of the earth's crust collide with one sliding under the other. >> it gets stuck sore it forces the north american plate to buckle like this and every 300 five years it will let go like that. that's the earthquake. that's what generates the tsunami. >> evidence that something like this will happen here in the future is written in the past. >> these are 99--these are from 1999. >> these are old. >> yes. i know these cores better than my neighborhood. >> this is what we think is probably the biggest earthquake
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c ascadia happened. >> it happened in 1700. how often, wear and how powerful are key questions. >> and are we overdue? >> for the more part for seattle and vancouver, we would have to say no. we're roughly 315 years until an average 500 year cycle. you wouldn't say that is not necessarily over due. >> for the southern part? >> we're 150 year into a 215 year cycle. >> he's seeing a one in ten chance on the northern end, and completing the earthquake early warning system could take three to five years if proper fund something in place. and proper funding is a lot of money. >> the initial investment would be $38 million right up front, and then $16 million per year on
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going for continuous operations and fema estimates the damage from earthquakes on the west coast is roughly $4 billion a year. >> so a good investment. >> a very good investment. >> japan and four other countries already have systems like the one the seismic center has started and wants to finish. so how will this enhanced warning capability actually help when an earthquake hit? methods can be developed to do things like stop mass transit systems. stop machineries. people could have time to get off a ladder, to get under a table to, get away from dangerous chemicals or an electrical site. a doctor might have time to drop a scalpel or laser if they were in the operating room. and it could help with something as simple as opening the doors immediately on fire station and ambulance bays so emergency
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responders don't get stuck in their garages when they're needed most. it might help them to get to the places they're needed much quicker. >> as you know the obama administration announced new building standards today. what do you know about them? >> yes, that's right. they said moving forward that any refurbishing or any new building of federal buildings, that work has to be done the very stacketting earthquake proving standards. anything major in construction in federal buildings. they're hoping that will lessen any damage in a major quake, but it will shorten the time it takes to get those buildings operational again and get people back to work. shorten that recovery time. >> allen. it's good to see you. thank you very much. coming up next. my conversation with singer song writer todd rungren who produced music for some of rock's biggest stars right after this.
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>> in tonight's art segment we talk with todd rungren. his work helped define music in the '70s and beyond. hits like "hello, it's me" put him on the map. and meatloaf's "bat out of hell" made him a pioneer. i asked how many instruments he plays. >> technically i only play the guitar. that's the only instrument i'm comfortable playing in front of other people. [ music ] but most of the other instruments that i have played, i just learn as much as i need to know to get the sound i want out of it. >> you've had so many hits that have weathered the test of time. did you know when you wrote them, did you know when you played them that they were going to be hits? >> i never set out to write a hit record. at least not initially. there were points in time when i
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figured music came so forme formulaic that i could deconstruct a hit and write to that. "hello it's me." that was the first hit. it's haunted me ever since like an albatross. >> but you also wanted by many, many talented people to help produce their music. >> when the nas broke up about 18 months after it was formed. i left the band. after the second record i had enough hands-on experience in the studio to take on the production. >> did you like performing better or producing. >> at the time i didn't even think of myself a as a performer. >> you didn't? >> having--continue to go write songs, you know, i was still into music. i was still into the idea of making a record. i was not into the idea of
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either putting a band together or going out and fronting as myself because i didn't think of myself as that kind of performer. suddenly i came to find myself being the reluctant performer. i had to go out and learn to be in perform in front of people after a hit record. >> that didn't come naturally to you? >> not at all. >> it was hard? >> i emulated--as you can see in some of these pictures. >> well, i'm looking at this picture, and this doesn't look like it was hard for you. >> i thought of myself as a guitar player, i was comfortable on stage playing guitar. i could jam all night long. but being a singer, i didn't learn to be a sing center my teens like most people do. most people if they decide to be in a band, sing, they step up
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front and they start developing those skills. i didn't have those. so when the record came out i was able to sing in the studio because you can stop the tape and take a breath and start it up again. but when i went out live i couldn't sing for 20 minutes straight without losing my voi voice. >> but they also call you the rock-n-roll maverick. >> well, that's what happened, more or less. i decided to make a record like nobody had made a record before, or like i had ever made before, and i was going to put everything in my brain on to the recording media using the least traditional kind of filtering. first, it was never allowed to be said oh, that doesn't sound like a single. we don't care. it's not supposed to be a single. it's supposed to be something that nobody has ever heard before. [singing] your. >> you're performing, you're
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writing, you're putting out albums. what is this like for you so long after your initial success. >> i'm working harder than ever, actually. a lot of it is because of changes in the music business. that previous structured where you had some sort of guaranteed cash flow from a record label. you would have a multi million deal and you have an advance on those records. those deals don't really exist for many artists any more. i had to go back to what artists had done before there was a recording medium, and that was performing live. [singing] and the secret is, and it's amazing how many artists don't even understand this, is that the lifeblood of an artist has always been live performance. [singing]
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>> you made a lot of incredible music and made a lot of people happy. we're proud to have you on the program. >> thank you. >> that's our broadcast. i'm john seigenthaler. we'll see you back here tomorrow night. ali is next. i'm ali velshi, "on target", something fishy in the food supply, the government says genetically altered salmon is fit for consumption. not everyone is eager to eat it. the u.s. food and drug administration sparked a debate about genetically modified food by improving franken fit - the f.d.a.'s decision that