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lisa stark is in chapin, south carolina. >> with just three days before the south carolina primary, there was some thought that gloafgovernor nikki haley wouldt this one out and not make an endorsement. however, this is a big win for marco rubio. >> ladies and gentlemen, if we elect marco rubio, every day will be a great day in america. >> i'm so honored that she chose to join our team. she embodies everything i want the conservative movement to be about. >> reporter: the rubio campaign was attracting enthusiastic crowds. >> we love to be here. the momentum keeps growing. these wonderful folks come out to see me. >> he had already won the
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support of the african american senator, tim scott. >> help me welcome marco rubio. >> reporter: like a prize fighter entering a ring, marco rubio took shot at president obama. with a well worn line. >> we're going to undo the damage that barack obama has done to this country. [applause] >> now, when i say this, and i say that more than once, then the press says he's repeating himself. >> trying to undue the disaster he made at the new hampshire debate, saying a phrase four times. he seems to have roiferred and threcovered andthe endorsement .
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haley healy. >> i hope he's going to win the state with a tail wind. >> recent policies suggests bush remains near the bottom of the republican field in the sait with donald trumstatewith donal. >> i think he's the most mature guy, the youngest but the most mature. he's not shouting, yelling and he knows his stuff. >> bringing america back to what it was originally, fixing what is wrong. >> sounds like donald trump. >> no, he's too hotheaded. >> the florida senator is hoping for second place in front of true. >> that gives him the opportunity to continue to fund-raise, to continue the try
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to run a strong campaign in the supertuesday states. >> he's touting an inclusive ine brand of conservatism. to become the president of the united states. >> did they just have a game on the score board or is that the 45th president of the united states? >> both marco rubio and nikki haley, mentioned as a possible vice presidential pick. john. >> lisa, thank you. republican joe watt scins a wata former you white house aide. joe take a look at this lates poll from south carolina, from mon monmon moth university.
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they choose donald trump way out in front 35% to 19 or 17, depends on whether it's cruz or rubio. it seems to me this poll shows just how close it is for second place, right? >> oh yeah, second place clearly is a very hot race right now. and although ted cruz is trying to mix it up with donald trump. it really is going to be a race between marco rubio and ted cruz. especially with the endorsement of nikki haley. ted cruz has raised a significant amount of money for staff people and all those important states for supertuesday. you still can't discount that. even if he comes in third in south carolina he's still going to be aforce to be reckoned with come supertuesday. >> and jeb bush rave raised a lf
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money. in south carolina, donald trump has really gone after jeb bush and the bush family an senator lindsay graham who supported bush. just take a look at what trump said about lindsay graham. >> you have a guy he's one of the dumbest human beings i've ever seen. i saw him on television and i think he lost it. he said donald trump, he couldn't even speak, he back shaking. he went donald trump, ah ah ah, nut job. he knows so much about the military? i could push him over with a little thimble, boom. >> what do you say about that joe? >> well normally in a political cycle, that kind of a response would not help a candidate. but donald trump has done extraordinarily well. i've been saying since the summer now, that donald trump is a candidate to be taken seriously. right now, if you look at all
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the polling data he's very well positioned to be the front runner as we head towards the nomination process. he's positioned to win south carolina substantially and to do very, very well on supertuesday. he's in great position now and it's really his race to lose. >> lindsay graham apparently hasn't helped jeb bush, if you look at the polls, lindsay graham, he was wooed by family members, apparently george w. bush and his wife laura has tried to convince nikki haley to go with jeb bush but she's gone with marco rubio. what do you think thereafter? >> that perhaps rubio has more
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momentum, clearly jeb bush has somebody that have executive leadership, having been the chief executive of florida for two terms, despite fact his father was president and brother was president, he himself has been chief executive but that's not playing well. if he comes in second or third in south carolina, that will be a big victory for him. if he comes in fourth that means he's still in contention. i expect he has to -- >> there were rumors today and you know, political rumors a dime a dozen but there are rumors that jeb bush might get out and throw his support to marco rubio. is that a logical scenario in your mind? >> well, all things being equal it would seem that he would support marco rubio, who has been for whom he has been a -- marco rubio was a protege, the reality is that i'm not sure
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that given some of the bad blood between the two of them, that jeb bush would pull out of the race at this juncture still having significant money in his political action committee and throw support behind marco rubio. it's possible some point he could but i'm thought convinced woe do that. i'm not convinced that one he would get out so quickly and two, i'm certainly not convinced he would throw his support behind marco rubio. >> the longer he stays in this race, let's play this out, doesn't it help donald trump's campaign every single day? >> hard to say. the nomination is about delegates, amassing enough delegates to become nominee. if you have a candidate that does well but doesn't alast enough delegates to be the party's obvious nominee then there's always a chance for a brokered convention. if you are still able to stick around through march and april
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and still be a contender and in the game, you have a chance of being at the brokered convention. the thought is to stick it out be there for a long haulen there there for the voters and the delegates you amass. that's the most important thing in this business, we'll be looking at who has the most delegates in march and april, may and june. >> we'll talk again, thanks very much. >> thanks john. >> with the mother of sandra bland, the woman found dead in a texas jail, last summer, clinton and bernie sanders are battling for crucial minority voters. ash-har quraishi reports. >> reporter: at a rally to get out the vote in the city's historic bronzeville report,
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hillary clinton finds support from a mother. >> i present to you hillary clinton, our nation's next president. >> arrested in waller county texas, later found handing in her jail cell. >> we owe it to them to reform police practices, to maim sure that no other young woman like sandra bland is ever pulled out of a car for no good reason and thrown into a jail, where she is found dead. >> reporter: while clinton is polling strong with chicago's black voters, some are still on the fence. >> my mind is not with it but i feel her heart is in it. >> after a double digit loss to bernie sanders in new hampshire, clinton is looking to shore up her support in black voters.
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>> to outline what i intend to do to break down the barriers, it's important that we look at everything that holds people back, and yesterday my poor emphasis ant commitment was to hold down the barriers of african americans. >> both clinton and sanders were criticized by the black lives movement. last week's milwaukee debate she rebuked sanders for not standing staunchly with the president. >> today senator sanders said president obama failed the presidential leadership test and this is not first time that he has criticized president obama. in the past he has called him weak, he's called him a disappointment. >> one of us ran against barack
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obama, i was not that candidate. >> it is a strategy some political watchers say could help her in the political primary a month from now. >> it's not lost on the black americans that he chose her to be his first secretary of state. so that association is very strong, very wise strategy for her to hue closely to the president's agenda and to hue close to the president's policies. and there is a winning strategy. >> reporter: for now, clinton maintains a huge edge going into the next primary. unlike earchl america african a, it's important for the democratic candidate to be well beyond the primaries. ash-har quraishi, al jazeera, chicago. >> the nevada democratic caucuses are just three days away, the polls show clinton and sanders locked in a tight race. both candidates are courting the
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latino population, tristan atone reports. >> our culture is the lake. that's where we get our culture from. and so we do everything we can to protect our water. >> reporter: autumn harry is a member of the lake hear payute tribe. >> it would be great to come to our reservations and come to our communities to actually see what we're trying to protect and what we want them to invest in. >> reporter: native people make up less than 2% of nevada's population, spread across 32 tribal communities. the voting block is so small that useful data barely exists. what is known is native americans have at a the lowest voter turnout of any group in the united states. if candidates don' voters doesne
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candidates don't visit. >> our messages are never brought up. >> cody and her sisters, are enlisted in a program for aspiring native activists. they want programs that speak to them and their issues. >> i think we do have a sort of a different perspective on voting. there's life after us, that we need to be thinking about. and it's a lot more urgent than other people might feel. and i think that does affect our votes. >> reporter: what are you hoping to hear from candidates right now? >> i think that they can do a lot more. especially in meeting with tribal leaders, and establishing a dialogue between them and the tribal leaders. >> one thing i know, we keep politics, money and church out of the office. >> reporter: we asked
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charlotte mann to break her no talk of politics rule. she was styling elaine duncan's hair at the salon she owns on the pyramid lake payute reservation. >> anyone that is currently in power that would visit our people, i don't feel we're part of the political process. >> high reply held tribal lands and years of december enfranchisement. a nightmare for native american voters. >> hello senator sanders. >> the irony native americans in swing states like nevada could be key in deciding a presidential election or who wins the caucus if the candidates reach out to the voters and they get to the polls. >> i think bernie's ideology is similar to our communalism or tribalism.
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i think bernie is like a warrior for our people. >> try to recruit caucus voters. >> we should at the very least peerpt in the system if they're going to give us a shot to change it. we could be a deciding factor and that's really important. >> reporter: some have political reasons not to vote at all "like" cody. he prioritizes his tribal leadership ahead of american leadership. >> is he good to affirm rights to self determination and coloniacolonialization. >> is anybody even thinking republican? >> no about. >> why not? >> none of the republican candidates what they stand for are in line with any of my viewpoints. >> just ideology and --
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>> that leaves hillary clinton and bernie sanders vying for attention even if there are questions about their sincerity. the challenge now, how to get the vote out in communities that have traditionally been excluded. >> the elk river chemical spill in west virginia. freedom industries was blamed for that leak. today, the company's former president was sentenced to 30 days in federal president with six months of parole to follow. robert ray is in west virginia. robert. >> you know it's all over for former president of freedom industries, gearp gar gary soutt
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that doan mean th doesn't mean e residents are happy with the sentence. >> he pled guilty to the chemical spill, forcing tap water to be shut off for 300,000 residents. >> tell me do you think the state of the people of charleston, i know this is a nervous day for you but is there anything you can say to us? nothing at all, sir? don't you think you owe it to the people of charleston just to make some sort of apology or comment for 300,000 people that couldn't drink water, don't you think? don't you think sir? sir? can't you answer? can't you answer the questions? can you answer the questions? >> after nearly two hours inside the courtroom a federal judge handed down southern's sentence. he will spend 30 days in federal prison if florida? , have six months of supervised release and pay a $20,000 fine.
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federal judges have now sentenced, southern was the last, the others received sentence is ranging from probation to fines to 30 days in jail. but many residents and local officials say the sentences are too light. >> to me it does seem like a slap on the wrist. and it was disheartening to hear that he was taking a private plane back to florida while he coughecaused a lot of devastatio the community. i have mixed feelings. >> southern had faced the harshest penalty to all the officials. up to three years in prison and $300,000 in fines. federal prosecutors recommended a sentence of 21 to 27 months and freedom industries which filed bankruptcy was fined $900,000. the judge said it was symbolic because the company doesn't
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exist anymore. >> john, the judge also said that gary southern was not a criminal today. we should point out these were misdemeanor charges these executives were at and that's why these sentences were so minimal. the $20,000 fine, the 30 days in a minimum security prison. we should also note that gary southern today in court did apologize not for the chemical spill but for his behavior, when before the press corps he stood with a bottle of water, all the while the residents couldn't drink it, he said he wasn't feeling well and he cut the press conference short. that's what he apologized for. he took a private plane back to his residence. john. >> thank you robert. coming up the pope's visit to a mexican border city, juarez, where the crowds have
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been following the pope and his mass tonight, where it has been completed. large crowds lining the roads to get to see pope francis. plus, my conversation with the brother of ted kazinski and how he became the unibomber.
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>> pope francis completed his visit to mexico tonight with a politically charged visit to the border. the pope prayed, laid flowers at the border in honor of those who died trying cross it. howheidi zhou-castro is in mexio tonight. heidi. >> the pope issued his blessing across the international boundary through the border fence and to the community in the united states which he turns was one family with the brothers and sisters here in juarez,
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mexico. the pope matched that symbolism, that image equally strong with his words, directed at the migrants who made a perilous journey to reach the united states. >> translator: a step, a path, loaded with terrible injustices. victims of slavery of kidnapping and extortion. many of our brothers and sisters are the products of human trafficking. >> reporter: and the pope called for compassion for the hundreds of thousands of central americans who have made that journey. and he also compared them, the polite of those central americans to refugees around the world, calling the current situation not only a humanitarian crisis john but a humanitarian tragedy. >> did he also talk about the violence in juarez? >> reporter: certainly that has been the other message he has been sharing on this trip to mexico. today in his mass saying that it is:00 not to be complacent, that it is time for change here in
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juarez which just until recently was known as the mow dangerous city in the world -- most dangerous city in the world. in juarez more than 100,000 people have died in the last years from drug wars. the pope is says it is now time to publicly denounce the drug trade. >> it's hard to measure crowds but can you give us a sense how many people turned out for this? >> reporter: i think it's easy to measure when you can't move your elbows, john. this place was packed. i'm hearing just 200,000 people filled this viewing area alone. not counting the hundreds of thousands more who lined the streets of juarez waiting to catch just a glimpse of the pope and of course, on the u.s. side there was the sun bowl stadium that also filled with spectators trt americafrom the american si. >> heidi zhou-castro, thank you very much.
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now to the south china sea, where it appears that the chinese has deployed missiles on undisputed lands. jamie mcintire has more from the pentagon. >> reporter: john, the timing would not seem to be a coincidence, coming as it was three weeks after choifn disputed a sail-by by a u.s. ship, and president obama convened the meeting of southeast asian countries. >> on woody island, china claims as its sovereign territory. woody islands is one of the parasails, an archipelago in the south china sea which china, japan all claim.
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a range of 125 miles, drew an immediate rebuke from the u.s. which says putting military hardware on a disputed island, rebukes a statement made by xi jinping last year. >> when president xi stood in the rose garden, he said china will not militarize in the schiepts. thersouthchina sea. but there is evidence every day of militarization of one kind or another. >> within 12 nautical miles of another island, to challenge china's excessive military claim. china argues that it has every right to set up what china's foreign minister called limited necessary and self defense
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compounds. territorial claims in the south china sea, which also includes building up reefs and converting them into man made islands. the u.s. takes no position on the sovereignty dispute, but as he wrapped up a meeting of south asian nations in california president obama called for all sides to lower tensions by ending the construction and militarization of contested areas. >> any situations should be resolved peacefully, such as the upcoming convention of the u.n. of the seas which the parties are obligated to abide by. >> defense secretary ash carter says china's unilateral actions were informing the u.s. to beef
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up posture and make action more difficult. >> we will continue to be as we have been for seven years, the permissiblal military power there but it is -- the pivotal military power there, but it is turning everyone who might otherwise be perfectly willing to work with china in security terms as we would in principle, is turning them against china. >> reporter: despite the potential threat that surface to air missiles could in theory pose to military and commercial aircraft the pentagon does not believe china is seeking a military confrontation. secretary of state kerry says he will have serious conversations with china in the coming days and urge through negotiation not through bullying or force. >> thank you jamie. four f-22 stealth fighter
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jets carried out the mission, of north korea's rocket launch. seoul says it was a missiles test, pyongyang says it was only a satellite. joint military drills are set to begin in march. coming up next, why apple is rejecting a court order to unlock the iphone of one of the san bernardino killers. and a hospital held for ransom by hackers.
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>> apple is taking on the u.s. government challenging an order from the federal court. the fbi wants apple to unlock the iphone.of one of the san bernardino shooters. apple says it wants to protect the privacy of all of its users. jacob ward is in san francisco tonight, jake. >> john, this may seem like a simple case, a known mass murderers phone, and the fbi has asked apple to break into that phone. but this one restrictive case has turned into an all out war of privacy. >> right now, if you try the guess the pass code too many times, the phone allows beings over an hour before you can try again or at worst, the phone erases itself. pass code on saeed farook's
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phone, as necessary to find it. millions more earlier models that could be affected. but the white house says this is not a threat to privacy for anyone else. >> they are not asking apple to redesign its product. or to create a new back door to one of their products. they're simply asking for something that would have an impact on this one device. >> apple's encryption scheme on newer phones already makes the fbi's request impossible for newer devices but apple says it is drawing the line and will not comply. this may be a well boin bounded. it is a relatively outdated phone but it has reflection for technology, encrypted in ways that even the manufacturers can't break into. if apple in this case is compelled to build a back door into their own devices privacy
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advocates say that could be the end of privacy to everyone. >> it's about democracy, lgbt activists here in the middle east, you name it. privacy is not just human right, but it is a social good. >> the question is this: if apple creates software that a federal agency can use to break into a single iphone connected to a known terrorist, is that worth the possibility that another agency a foreign government or another terrorist could use the same technique to get into millions of other iphones? john about an hour ago, sundar pichi the ceo of google tweeted an important post from tim cook, ceo of google seeming to line up behind the ceo of apple, the battle for privacy is on. >> this started months ago when
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the fbi director stood up and said look, we're having trouble getting the information we need from some of these phones and we need help. clearly, the line has been drawn. now give me a sense of what you think about this. i marine before we had iphones, before we this this sort of software, the federal government simply tapped a telephone and loifned the what was said. -- and listened to what was said. why is this different from that? >> this is an unusual circumstance. we are talking here what seems on the face of it a simple request. this was granted on this public court by a single judge. it is not a widespread surveillance as we have seen from the nsa. what's the problem here? privacy advocates say by introducing a back door that law enforcement could use let's say that you have nothing to worry about that you don't know any you know dissidents or you are not a human rights worker and you have nothing you would be
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embarrassed for your boss to see that's on your phone. putting all of that aside, privacy advocates say, that would make that back door the number one target of all the hackers around the world, everyone would try get that piece of software. it's far more easy to get that software in this day and age than it would be by tapping someone's phone back in the day. the issue is not just so much evil-doers and whether or not you and i have committed a crime. it's about protecting all of the things we carry on our phones, our social security numbers, our bank account information, our whereabouts from moment to moment, all of that is held on the phone. google and apple are arguing that we have to hold those to higher standard than we ever have before. >> jake ward, thank you so much. the white house will pay justice to antonin scalia on friday. a private ceremony will be held
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in court saturday morning followed by the funeral mass which vice president biden will attend. the governor of illinois is once again demanding billions of dollars of cuts in an everyday to end the budget stalemate. the eight month standoff is already affecting state programs vital to its citizens. >> kristen ward is a nurse that treats drug addicts, ward was a drug addict herself, spent months in jail and finally hit rock bottom before coming here. >> the environment was what i thought a very safe comfortable place to heal and grow. i was at a bottom that no one wanted to help me. and this was the only -- this was my only choice. >> reporter: but most of the services here are going away because the state is locked in a budget stalemate before first
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term republican governor bruce relger and a democratic state legislature. this is longest the state has gone without a state budget and the state has not paid about $6.5 billion of its bills. each side is blaming each other. >> the majority party in the general assembly know thought that just raising taxes to fund those services, they could do it. they haven't even moved a finger to go do that. >> we ought to gi get which, sit down and what do we do to solve this budget problem. state parks have been closed, payments to lottery workers have been delayed. >> we are just adding to the amount of people in illinois who can't access services. >> the floor that ward works, medically assisted detox will stay open but another floor for cold turkey detox is closing as for the resident hauls for
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female addicts, robin edwards. >> it's making it harder and more difficult for everybody. >> the patients here will have other options for treatment but the director said it's like ford shutting down and gm and chrysler having to pick up the slack. >> the simple nature of going someplace where you are familiar, where you trust the staff, that's going to be gone. >> it's going to be a fight to get into treatment centers because all these people are closing all these places and people want to get in. they want the help. >> reporter: lutheran social services says the state owes it $6 million for services and hasn't made a payment in seven months. so it's laying off 750 people around the state, affecting nearly 5,000 patients and senior citizens. >> like purely knowing i deserve to be happy. >> reporter: there is no patience around here for the politicians in this budget stalemate. >> if it's about the money, they're going to be paying for
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it with jail or prison and it's going to be more money. >> even the alcohol rehab clinic where frank got clean years ago is now closing and he and kristen fear for those who are just like they used to be. andy rosegen, al jazeera, chicago. an attempt to prevent contaminanting the country's blood supply with zika virus, importing blood from areas without an outbreak rather than using local donations. there have been no known transmission he through blood transfusions in the u.s. but two possible cases were reported in brazil. now to a cyber security case in hollywood where a loss has paid $17,000 to hackers, to regain control of private and confidential patient records. jennifer london reports from
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l.a. >> pharmaceutical orders and the emergency room, means hospital staff are resort to handwritten notes and faxes. some emergency room patients being transported by ambulance have been diverted to other medical centers. a recorded phone message from the hospital seeks to reassure patients. >> we want to assure you that patient care has not been compromised, we need to address this incident. >> the thing that someone can walk in and kidnap that information is scary. we all know our own medical history and we all know we want to keep it confidential. it's just one more breach in the cyber crime environment. >> reporter: in an e-mail to al jazeera the fbi confirms it's investigating a cyber-compromise at the hospital in order to confirm the person or group responsible, but we're not at liberty to provide specific details. ransom attacks are increasing
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and becoming more sophisticated according to a global network security report. in 2015 there was a 25% increase in these types of cyber attacks. it happened to a south florida plastic surgeon two years ago. >> all we flew there were these internet blackmailers saying we would have to pay us in bitcoin immediately or we would lose our files forever. >> after paying in bitcoin he received the access. >> this will happen unfortunately more and more. >> jennifer london, al jazeera, los angeles. >> 20 years after the arrest of the unibomber a conversation about his brother, ted kazinski and his life growing up.
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>> it's been almost 20 years since ted kazinski, the man known as the unibomber was captured at his remote cabin in montana. placed or mailed 16 bombs that killed three people and injured another 23. the search for the unibomber was you one of the longest manhunts in u.s. history and they would never have found him without a tip sister, david kazinski.
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has just written a book, every last tie. and i asked him why he decided to write the book after all these years. >> in the aftermath of these tragedies, for example the one involving my brother, we have a tendency to demonize and to humanize, we are a pretty normal family. >> people often described you as a tortured hero. is that how you see yourself? >> i think tortured is too strong a word. our brother's violence has cast aa chad shad owe but we are at peace with what we did in terms of stopping the violent. in that sense i would feel tortured had we not done what we did. >> describe your family growing up. what was ted like? you say he was a good big
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brother. very intelligent. >> well, he was -- he was special, in many ways. but primarily, he was special because he was so smart. he skipped two grades in school, graduated at the age of just turned 16, got a scholarship to harvard university, i think his i.q. was measured at 165 at one point. he was certainly a very good big brother to me. there was seven and a half years' ebs difference betweeyea. ted tended to be withdrawn, not very social, didn't have many friends. >> you became a mental health professional after your experience. he was diagnosed as skit phren phrenic. impossible situation for families like yours? >> about half the people with
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schizophrenia don't know they're ill. we tried to strategize, talk to a doctor ted knew in montana. but it seems like h we were clutching with straws. >> you hadn't spoken to your brother for more than 20 years but it's clear that you still love him. is there any way to reconcile? >> i guess all i can be is patient. i don't write to ted occasionally. it's a little harder after 20 years to kind of know what to say. when mom was alive i would share some -- how she was doing. i would want him to know if he were ever to reach out, ever to write back, invite me to visit i would certainly be here, and i love ted as a human being, i really despise what he did. >> in some ways is this their
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therapeutic for you? >> i hope so. i'm also aware of other families that have gone through these kind of situations, and i hope in some ways to speak for other families, too. to help the public know that one person doesn't define an entire family. and that most of the -- you know, most families with a mentally ill family member are not responsible for that family member's illness. >> one of the things people i think don't know is that it was actually your wife who figured out what the fbi couldn't. how was she able to do that? >> well, you might have to ask her. it's still an amazing mystery to me. you know at one point the fbi had 125 agents working full time. they were pretty clueless. linda had actually never met my brother but she had been privy to lots of family conversations. she knew his views on technology and began putting two and two
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together. more than two and two but she iss she's a very intuitive person also. >> we'll have more on kazinski tomorrow when i talk to his wife, linda patrick. we take a look at the look of silence.
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>> in 1965, between 500,000 and 3 million indonesians were slaughtered by those in power. however, those responsible have largely gone unpunished because they still run the country. the oscar nominated documentary the look of silence looks at the man who confronts the men who killed his brother in the attacks. joshua oppenheimer and the center of the story. take a look. >> the look of silence is about what it's like to live as a
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survivor of genocide when the perpetrators have have never been removed from power. in 1965 in indonesia there was a genocide in which somewhere between half omillion and 3 million people were killed in less than a year. the u.s. government had supported the indonesian military in overthrowing the president of indonesia and replacing it with a military dictatorship. all likely opponents of the military dictatorship were killed and the perpetrators have been power ever since. and the survivors have consequently had to live in fear. and the look of silence one survivor, the brother of a victim, goes and visits and confronts all of the men involved with murdering his brother.
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>> audi is an optometrist, and while asking these men to take responsibilities for what they've done, he is testing their eyes to know what they see. >> we know these are old people, they need eye exam, eye test. while giving them a free eye test i asked them the questions about 1965. and they were very open. in the end they found out that i came just to confront them. they became angry and they wanted me to stop. >> reporter: the perpetrators have all been too happy to boast about the most grizzly details of whagriz grislydetails of whae
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since 1965. they have cloaked their grisly deeds in a perpetrator's victory that celebrates what they have done. >> this has been so long. i want the perpetrators to say that what they did was wrong. that's how i got the strength. i don't want my kids to live in fear. >> reporter: audi had to learn this in school even as his mother would tell him day after day, about his brother's murder. it was like an echo that would never fade. >> so in the beginning i told joshua that i have to meet the perpetrators. i insisted. and joshua said no, because it was very dangerous.
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>> reporter: he said if i can approach the perpetrators, showing them that i'm willing to forgive them if they admit what they did was wrong, they would reconcile what they did with the perpetrator's families. >> i am deel deepl deeply for identification. thedeeply disappointed.they done whatsoever. >> i warned that we may have to evacuate very quickly and while shooting, we may have a get away car, and we might have to escape. we had audi's family with their bags packed and a ticket, ready to leave the region, if anything went wrong and audi was unflinchingly courageous. i receive threats through social media, e-mail, anonymous phone
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duels a number that i keep active just so i can monitor these kind of threats. audi luckily has not received any threats since the film came out in indonesia. it had a wide public release just over a year ago. audi has been seen widely, as a kind of national hero as someone who's finally had courage to break the silence. the film is in the spotlight right now because it's nominated for an oscar. >> the oscar really brings the attention to the film and the more people watch it the closer we are to reaching the goal. >> we're using the nomination to demand that the united states declassify its documents, acknowledge its role in these crimes and acknowledge truth justice and reconciliation in indonesia. >> you can see the film online
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and on demand. our profiles of the rest of the oscar nominatedocumentaries continue in the coming weeks. that's our broadcast, thanks for watching, i'm john siegenthaler. ali velshi is flex. >> i'm ali velshi. >> i'm david schuster in for ali velshi. "on target" tonight. donald trump a long shot for wing the nomination, has even the democrats worried that he's going to roll all the way to the white house. there is no dismissing donald trump. just three days before the south carolina republican presidential primary, this polling shows that the no holds barred realat

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