hike down, and that takes a day one way. the proposed tram would take people from the rim to the river in a matter of minutes. >> not everybody can go to the bottom of the grand canyon, to those places, and we tried to provide a full spectrum, and what was proposed by the developers in the escalade project, it's an angle to get this many people down to the bottom of the grand canyon. >> it should not be built. not because we say so, but it's our mother, it's the grand canyon. >> aljazeera, grand canyon, arizona. >> that's all of our time, thank you for watching. tony harris in new york >> itony, thank you and donald trump backtracking for something he said. trump said women who undergo
abortions should face punishment and promptly reversed course. but set off a huge amount of criticism from both democrats and republicans. jefort has thjohn terret has th. >> so inflammatory. msnbc released them immediately. the republican front runner suggesting women should be punished for having the procedure. >> do you believe in punishment for abortion yes or no as a principle? >> the answer is that -- there has to be some form of punishment. >> for woman? >> yes. >> in what format? >> that i don't know. >> regarding abortion is unclear, should be left up to the states. he further clarified in a later statement saying should abortion
ever be outlawed, doctors should be punished not women. hillary clinton tweeting, just when you think it couldn't get worse, horrific. whoever is the gop nominee for november, they made their announcements tuesday night. >> if donald trump was the gop nominee would you support him? >> let me tell you my solution to that. donald trump is not going to be nominee. we're going to beat him. >> i've been treated very unfairly. >> by who? >> i think by basically the rnc, the republican party the establishment. >> if the nominee is somebody who is i think really hurting the country and dividing the country i can't designed behind him. we have a ways to go. let's see how this folds out.
>> all gop candidates signed a pledge to support the nominee whoever he may be. as trump distances himself from that comment, he's standing behind his campaign manager, cory lewandowski, some polls suggest he's trailing in wisconsin, trailing ted cruz, defended his campaign manager. >> when they go to kasich, what would they do, i would fire him. when they go to cruz, what would you do? i would fire him. folks you need somebody who's going to be loyal to the country and to yourself. >> calling for lewandowski to be fired for inexcusable and unprofessional behavior. john. >> it's been a busy ski couple f days john, thank you. john kingston is a surrogate
for ted cruz, he joins us from washington. jack, what do you think of trump's statement and reversal? >> it just underscores how unpredictable fest he is. recent quin quinnipiac poll, exe my pronunciation, disastrous, frightening, i think his comments today underscore why that poll scored the way it did. he is unpredictable and people are very uncomfortable with what he may say or do next. if you can imagine his finger on the nuclear trigger or choosing justices for the supreme court or any other court, a growing number of republicans and conservatives are finding themselves moving towards ted cruz. trump is the more we learn about him the scarier it does get.
>> in particular, what are you worried about with his hand on the button? what are you worried about with him nominating somebody to the supreme court? >> i think his philosophical inconsistencies, he has been pro-choice, now he's pro-life, he has been pro-gun control now he's pro-second amendment. he has supported hillary clinton and john kerry and chuck schumer and now he is a republican. he has especially as an adult, you need someone who's consistent. i do not support either hillary clinton or bernie sanders but at least bernie sanders is consistent. there's a predictability you can work with with donald trump, there isn't with ted cruz there is, he has been a constitutional conservative. >> what states does cruz need to win and how big does he need to get them? >> he needs to get 80 to 86% of
the delegates from here on out. we would love to see john kasich drop out of the race. the more cruz versus trump campaign the more people turn to cruz from trump. what we have been able to do is go bark and go after some of the rubio delegates, some of them like the ones from my state of georgia, they are bound to the convention until rubio releases them, he says he's not going to. other states like louisiana we have been successful. we understand the system a lot better than the trump campaign does. we are going back after the rubio delegates. each state has its own rules. probably the first day of the convention is going to be the most significant day and that's when we do settle the rules for delegates becoming unbound. and we have more on the ground
republican experience, more contacts with the republican party. because ted cruz has been a leading conservative. so you know, even though we've got to get 86% of the votes -- >> the that's a lot. >> -- the delegates from here on out, it's going to be very, very tough. we think we can get there because of statements like this week and what he has said in the past now is going to be coming out. his statement about muslims for example. >> well -- >> the more statements he makes like this john, the more people say wait, let me go back and review some of the other things he says. >> let me talk about john kasich because he just talked about whether or not he would support the nominee if it's donald trump. would you support donald trump if he is the nominee? >> i'll support him over bernie sanders or hillary clinton because i still think a continuation of the obama policies under hillary clinton would not be a good thing for national security, not be a good thing for jobs and the economy. bernie sanders's spending is
washington on steroids, as you know. i think he has proposed $18 trillion in new spending. i do think though, this does underscore the importance of the house races and the senate races. and as you know the senate is up for grabs. so i think a lot of the money in washington and olot of the interest groups if you will and i don't mean that in a derogatory sense, but a lot of them are going to focus be on who holds the gavel in the senate. >> when i look at other cable news channels all i see donald trump. i rarely see ted cruz. between lewandowski and the abortion controversy today, let me ask you. has donald trump taken all the air out of the room and how does ted cruz get attention? >> you know he really does -- somebody told me recently that he has had something like 1.6 billion in free earned and
unearned media. and that he is the one they were talking about. in fact i was actually in turkey and participated in egyptian television show this weekend. and here we are overseas talking about donald trump more than any other candidate. but i do think that as you go down the home stretch the delegates who were voting in february and march, maybe a protest vote, maybe a little bit more superficial maybe a little bit less information in the ballot box. but in wisconsin voters are saying, these stakes are real and look at the unfavorables of donald trump. they are higher than nixon post-watergate. his unfavorablity is so high, there is almost no way he can win an election in november. as our delegates are seeing that, you know, electability really counts. maybe my counterparts in some of the early voting states of new
hampshire and iowa, they needed to get it off their chest and have that protest vote with the outsider candidate. the closer to the home stretch the better ted cruz is looking. narrowing the field from 17 to three candidates. >> thank you very much. >> thank you john. the fbi has finished its examination of hillary clinton's e-mails and home server. moving quickly to a conclusion win way or the other. david schuster is here with that. david. >> john after a year of investigation federal investigators are preparing to interview hillary clinton and will decide whether to seek criminal charges. >> thank you, my goodness, wow! >> while hillary clinton fights for democratic presidential nomination, sources tell al jazeera that investigation into her personal e-mail server while
she was secretary of state has reached a federal state. the fbi led by james comey has finished be investigating you clinton's e-mails and server. together they are now exam 96 eg the evidence, analyzing relevant laws and interviews key figures during the investigation. those interviews will include fe leefelipe rynes and be hillary clinton herself. officials expect director comey to make his recommendation to attorney general loretta lynch about potential criminal charges. >> mr. director. >> thank you, attorney general lynch. >> the two appeared together in public last week on an unrelated
matter and while sources say they have discussed the clinton investigation the only public acknowledgment has been that comey's comment to congress that he is deeply involved in the case. >> this is something i'm following very closely, get briefed on often, and we do all our work promptly professionally and independently. >> as part of that effort, nearly 50 agents are assigned to the clinton investigation, brian pagliano's testimony has been assured in exchange for are failure to prosecute. clinton admitted that using her private e-mail server was a mistake but she did nothing illegal. >> i did not send or receive any be e-mails marked classified at that time. >> clinton continues to build up
her delegation count. and ads against donald trump. >> turning against each other. well, this is new york. and we know better. >> reporter: clinton's rival bernie sanders has won six of the last seven democratic contests. he keeps hammering the contrast between his populace campaign and the wealthy donors fueling clinton. >> i'm not going to rich people's homes begging them for contributions. >> soon this could be overshadowed because there's every sign clinton e-mail investigation is quickly headed to conclusion whether it's for exoneration or indictment. the conclusion will come in weeks not months and they add hillary clinton's interview with the fbi which will coming in days will be crucial.
john. >> you wonder how late in the campaign they could indict her. >> not longer. justice department guidelines say you can't do it within 90 days of the election. comey wants to wrap it up be very much before the election. >> be national security correspondent jamie mcintire reports. >> well, john oops the world has yet to witness an act of nuclear terrorism. making a nuclear bomb requires a lot of technology but a dirty bomb is much easier and is a true weapon of terror. because it sows maximum fear with only a minuscule amount of radioactive material. as leaders from more than 50 countries arrive for the two day
nuclear summit in washington last week's attacks in belgium are fresh in their minds. the ability for bombers to wheel their explosives into a terminal, leads to what if scenario. what if i.s.i.s. didn't pack their bombs with nails but with radio logical material? that keeps joe sirincioni up at night. that i.s.i.l. or other terrorist group could obtain radioactive material for a dirty bomb. >> it's almost unbelievable that i.s.i.s. won't try to do something like this. >> so we're here at vermont and l street northwest in the heart of washington, d.c, just blocks frut white house. whafrom the white house. what would happen if someone would set off a radio logic al bottom here?
>> it would go down to the white house just a few blocks away, contaminating the white house. it might spread up the mall to the capital, contaminating the capital. >> but it wouldn't kill anybody right away. >> no one would be dead unless you were right next to it. it is the poisonous material that is be if you breathe in a speck of this, increase your ability to get cancer five or ten years out. that's the risk. >> you wouldn't be ail to work here or live here for years? >> everybody would flee in panic, flee the city even though five or ten square blocks were contaminated and no one would come back here for risk of getting cancer. it would take years for crews to scrub the buildings, to scrub the sidewalks, to get rid of the radioactivity. >> last year i.s.i.l. operatives recorded hours of activity at
the home of a be nuclear operative. >> it would be very dangerous and deeply troubling if i.s.i.l. was able to get its hands on nuclear material or even a nuclear device. and it does underscore why the president has made securing nuclear material around the globe a top priority. >> reporter: experts say the irony is that even as progress is made securing nuclear stock piles the risk nuclear terrorism has grown, particularly because of groups like i.s.i.l. back in 2009, president obama expressed the hope to secure all loose nuclear materials during his first term in office. as he convenes this final nuclear summit of his administration seven years later, it's clear he has fallen far short of that goal. is john. >> jamie, thank you.
iran's leader says mixes are key to the country's future. supreme ayatollah khamenei has called for iran to avoid further negotiations with the u.s. his latest comments offers support to iran's hard liners who have been widely compromised for obligatio ballistic tests. >> white officers involved in the shooting death of a black man last year. tonight rallies are being held in protest, in memory of jamal. bisi onile-ere is be there, bisi. >> john, there are several rallies planned here throughout the city of minneapolis being driven for civil rights groups who are pushing for criminal charges to be filed in this case. one organizer i talked to said
they are planning for peaceful protests but police are ready for anything. >> the criminal charges are not warranted against either officers mark ringenberg or justin schwartz. >> prosecutor mike hennapen made the decision,. >> schwartz said that as the officers approached clark he, clark, had, quote, this thousand yard stare, end quote. >> in the early morning hours of november 15th last year minneapolis police responded to the report that clark b had abud his girlfriend. laying out the evidence in the case, he also released witness
and police video from the night of the shooting. contemporary to some witness reports, freeman says the investigation found that clark was not handcuffed during confrontation. clark refused to take his hands off of riggenburg's gun. >> schwartz said he got the curves and could not get them on clark. ringenberg repeatedly told schwartz, he's got my gun, he's got my gun. ringenberg recalls hearing schwartz say, be let go of the gun or he would shoot. clark said, i'm ready to die. >> the director of the local be naacnaacp group questions the be
investigation. >> it is a pattern that officers have been allowed to kill with impunity. we're not going to tolerate it anymore. >> clark's death sparked weeks of protest. ahead of wednesday decision, the chief of police urged scam. >> we're peaceful and we've always been peaceful and that's what we've always called for but let the city know that the blood is on their hands at the end of the day. we don't know what's going to happen. we are going to be out there trying to control the peace but at the end of the day, it is in god's hands. >> the federal government is still looking into this case to determine if there was any wrongdoing in the investigation. in the meantime, where jamar clark grew up and was raised, on the north side, where the shooting took place, a lot of the businesses closed early,
>> president obama is commuting prison sentences for 61 inmates now serving time for drug related convictions. most are nonviolent offenders but a few were also convicted on firearm convictions. >> it has been one of my top priorities for us to bring about a more sensible, more effective approach to our criminal justice system. it is my strong belief that by exercising these presidential
powers i have the chance to show people what a second chance can look like. >> most of the prisoners whose sentences were commuted today will be released on july 28th. seattle police are taking part in a new scientific study of narcan for heroin overdose. 60 police officers will collect data on the job over the next six months as part a first time study. sabrina register reports. >> she was known as the rocket because she could throw a soft pitch, a softball pitch at 65 miles an hour when she was about 12 years old. >> penny says it was around age 12 whether her younger daughter used drug. first turned to alcohol and marijuana to self-medicate. >> it escalated to cocaine, she
went into treatment for three months, in arizona, came out and stayed clean and somebodiers for about sisober for sixmonths. then started on other drugs. >> she was attending aa meetings, things seemed to be better. >> we were trying to go pill free, drug free of any sort. then she overdosed. >> her story is playing out across the country, grappling with how to than explosion of heroin abuse. >> it's not just the same urban areas increasing more heroin use. what is really shifted and it's really fortunate understanding why we need these tombs that can be scaled up quickly, more geographically and demographically into people in
their late teens and 20s. >> dr. caleb banta green has been studying these drugs for years and advocates for narcan, malocone, that can reverse a heroin overdose. >> it has to be in the right place at the right time. >> reporter: seattle's bike patrol is now testing that theory. be 60 officers will carry narcan which costs $100 per dose, this officer has seen narcan revive a parent. patient. >> i was awe struck how quick it was. >> the seattle police department with help from researchers here at the university of washington is the first study in the country. if the research is positive, seattle could eventually have
all officers carry narcan. >> i feel like the world is so cheated. because s left us so early. >> legate says she's determined to fight for people like mara, because every life is worth saving. >> every person is not a throw away person. she would say, we're not throw away people. i know she's cheering us on. >> the food and drug administration is loosening rools for usrules for a pill kne abortion. abortion rights advocates have been fighting laws that require doctors follow the fda label directions for drug. others argue that the labels did not reflect completely usage. coming up he's a strong
trump supporter, she can't stand him. the plan to develop part of the grand canyon and why some say it would permanently damage the national monument. . been put on hold. >> we're prepared for the fight that we know we're facing. >> twenty-one people were killed, nearly all of them transgender women of color. >> we have a reason to wake up and live just like everybody else. >> it's easy to demonize something that you don't know. >> they forget that you're human and everyone deserves some respect. >> one woman, one man! >> marriage is a civil right! >> if they redefine marriage, what is it to be? >> they are pushing social change on some people who are still very resistant. >> i'm willing to face my consequences as you all will
face your consequences. >> the next big day in the battle for gay rights at the supreme court. >> we absolutely believe this is a state's right issue. >> all we're asking for are the same rights everyone else has. >> gay marriage is legal. >> this momentous, historic, landmark decision. >> same-sex marriage legal in all 50 states. >> we just felt like we had to be here. >> our human dignity is being recognized. >> this is just a watershed moment. >> i saw some other people that actually started to cry. >> this ruling will strengthen all of our communities. >> i couldn't be prouder of our country. >> there's no gender. there's just people. >> i finally get to blossom into the beautiful flower i am. >> al jazeera america. proud to tell your stories.
>> potential trouble for donald trump. his favorability ratings are sinking as he heads into the next round of primaries. contests that are critical to him clinching the republican presidential nomination. adam may is with us on that story. adam. >> you got to wonder if donald trump's star power is beginning to fade. less than one-third of americans now screw hi view him favorably. assume he goes on to win the republican nomination, swing states in florida: >> tell me the deal with the wall. what is the deal with the wall? >> shirley and her husband john don't see eye to eye on donald trump. typically a republican voter, she's trying to understand her husband's strong support for the gop front runner but couldn't
bring herself to vote for trump in the republican primary. >> i was going to look at all of them and see but i couldn't do it. >> reporter: the couple owns a catering company and they've hosted debate parties with friends. >> we need somebody who's no outspoken, give us what we need, secure our borders, bring big corporations, bring big companies back to america, we need to be the leader. >> as a small business owner how does this influence who you are going to vote for? >> this country was founded on small business and entrepreneurs, and the way our hands are being tied you know what i'm saying i think can he loosen that lynch on us a little bit. >> reporter: are you ever concerned you're watching otv
character versus someone who's a genuine politician? >> he's never been a politician, he's learning as he's going, he has a lot to learn. >> are you okay with a president running our country who is going to do like let me at him i want to get him, close to blow people up? come on! >> according the polls, only 31% of americans view donald trump favorably down from 37% in january. which begs the question: is trump losing his luster? >> i think getting to know him over the years on television just his persona people have thought he is similar, he dos ds understand my situation even though he's so different. >> diane ash is studying donald trump. >> what is the so-called halo
effect and how is that affecting donald trump's support glermers? >> the halo effect is, if you are a great athlete i'm going to assume that you are smart or kind or generous or honest and i think with mr. trump as a celebrity, lot of people like him, think he's entertaining and certainly he's successful. they like him. you say you're going to like him no matter what else comes along. i like him period. but i do think there's a limit to that over time when a person goes against your personal beliefs and faiths. >> could personal beliefs trump trump's celebrity? >> they could trump his celebrity. >> showing hillary clinton beating trump by eight points in a general election matchup.
that gap could widen as anti-trump pacs target him. >> a woman who is very flat chessed is hard to be a 10. >> shirley stamper is still considering trump but tired of the attacks on women and as a volunteer who works with the homeless she wishes trump would speak more compassionately. >> i would need to hear more about getting homeless off the streets. what are you going to do about that? that's in a lot of big cities. what are you going to do with the small business people that are struggling? let's get these veterans into some homes. i've seen a lot of veterans that were living under bridges, services have shut them down. i guess i just need to hear more of the heart stuff. more of the stuff that we need to see. from somebody that believes in
us, get out in the streets with us, see what we deal with on a day-to-day basis. >> reporter: lot of couples struggling with this decision and how to come together as they head into the voting booths. when you look at the numbers a little bit deeper trump's favorability rating is lower among women, higher among white males. and that's been steady for months now despite controversy after controversy after controversy. >> after controversy. adam thank you very much. >> after controversy, yeah. >> members of libya's u.n. backed government arrived in tripoli today, that's despite warnings from rival factions not to do so. formed under a peace deal last year that started out of chaos be when moammar gadhafi was
deposed five years ago. refugee camp in calais is known as the jungle, there were protests and clashes. now a makeshift camp has grown up in paris and officials are moving in. emma hayward reports. >> early morning and police in paris are moving migrants from a makeshift camp not far from the city center. it had grown in recent weeks. by daylight some people were still in the stalingrad station station which has become their temporary home. we visited the camp just a few days ago. residents from countries like sudan, eritrea and afghanistan. conditions had become increasingly difficult. >> i don't want to die. that people like me, all in, i don't know what can i do. i don't know, i talk to who, who
is understand? >> many people ask us not to show their faces, fearing their families would learn the conditions they are living in, in the heart of europe. farid told us he had worked as a translator in afghanistanhere his brother was shot dead by the taliban. >> i'm trying to go to the u.k, i was in calais for five months to go to the u.k. but there was no convey to get there. i am a block away, i hope there is a way for us. >> reporter: local volunteers have been working to try to hopp those in need. more than 6,500 people have been be offered temporary accommodation until june. >> it is the duty of the state to help these people.
they live in appalling conditions. i invite you to look at their accommodations. for them it's not a life. >> reporter: while offers of temporary shelter will be welcomed by some a stable, secure future is what the people who ended up living under this bridge really want. emma hayward, al jazeera. >> coming up next on the broadcast. redevelopment in be atlanta and the fight to preserve the city's historic past. and these live pictures from tulsa, oklahoma right now where a tornado warning has been issued. a severe weather system is moving across the country.
>> and welcome back everyone. we're looking at live pictures from tulsa, oklahoma, and as the camera moves back here you'll be able to see what appears to be a rather large funnel cloud. we've been talking about severe weather moving across the country, big storm system moving across the country now and it looks like this funnel cloud has barely touched the ground. ominous pictures in tulsa tonight where a tornado warning has been issued for this area and that is funnel cloud that
was just on the ground just a moment ago. we're watching it and if we get more information we'll bring it to you a little later. atlanta is the scene of a new battle pitting progress against preservation. at issue a series of columns that date back to before the civil war and a possible building sale that could put one of the standing pieces of the city's pre-war history at risk. robert ray has more. >> reporter: atlanta, a modern city with a rich architectural history, dating back to the rebuilding after the civil war. though it's hard to tell because nearly all of those pre-and post-war structures are gone. this structure is for sale for reportedly around $3 million. >> unbelievable colonnade and colossal columns and up the
hill. >> as a matter of fact, margaret mitchell, thoofer gone wit authh the wind mentions those columns. >> the columns are very few items in atlanta that are antebellum that survived. >> reporter: atlanta is not known for preserving its old classic homes. we are in a neighborhood that is surrounded by classic structures. this one didn't even exist here until recently. it was moved four miles, cut in half and put into this classic historic neighborhood so the preservation could continue. amateur historian raymond ke rvetionkeensays other cities hae
better. >> atlanta has a different attitude. it's always been a progressive town, it's been a mercantile town, it's been interested in profit. and they have just torn down and demolished everything that's really old. >> reporter: and while atlanta's history is often hard to spot, it does still exist. perched on a hill, surrounded by magnolia trees, awaiting a buyer. >> if i had money and not interested in make money i would love to see it now in some way, i like how big and important it looks and how different it looks. >> reporter: gone with the wind, the other structures may be, but not the columns. >> where should i go, what shall i do? >> frankly, my dear, i don't give a damn. >> representing the old south but for how long? robert ray, al jazeera, atlanta.
and now to a controversial new plan for the grand canyon. developers want to build a development on the eastern rim together with a tram. critics say it would change the landscape forever. jennifer london has more. >> leave it as it is. words made famous by president teddy roosevelt when he designated the grand canyon a national monument in 1908. it was later declared a national park a world heritage site and listed as one of the seven wonders of the world. attracting more than 5 million visitors every year, the south rim is the most popular, but now the east ritual, from the desert lookout, if developers get their way, the view won't look like
that anymore. imagine a visitors center, the so-called escalade project would bring shops and a tram to a pristine part of the canyon untouched by tourists. the land belongs to the people of the navajo nation. >> the whole canyon for me is a representation of who i am, where i come from. >> renee yellow horse a member of the navajo nation says when she first heard about the project she thought it was a cruel joke. >> the escalade development. when i first heard bit, it was through our local newspaper. it was drawing, the tram could go down to the bottom. i looked at it in the open newspaper and i laughed. i thought it was hilarious. somebody's playing a joke. >> you didn't think it was real? >> i didn't think it was real. i thought it was like the onion news or you know something laughable. >> why didn't you think it was
real? >> because it is unfathomable to dig into the heart of the -- the side of the canyon, to put in towers, to develop an area where i go to pray. i laughed, and then i disbelieved and then the more i read, i got angry. don't they know? this is the heart of our sacred places. >> the developers, confluence partners, say the escalade project will bring jobs and prosperity to an area in desperate need of economic rescue. two past navajo presidents have thrown their support behind the project but the current tribal leadership wouldn't talk to al jazeera. on the project's website you can hear testimonials from tribal members. >> i'm ten years old. i like the grand canyon escalade
project because it means a better life. >> this project directly benefits our people and will bring people from all over the world to experience navajo culture. >> but opposition among many tribe members like renee yellow horse is fierce. they accuse developers of misrepresentation. >> they said we're going to cram it down your throat whether you like it or not. you don't desecrate your most sacred places and then expect the people to be appreciative of that. you don't go to the sistine chapel and set up a ferris wheel and then give only 8 cents on the dollar to the pope. >> we were hoping to speak to the developers about the
controversy and criticism, but they declined to make themselves available while we were here. >> your sister's not in. >> we did have a chance to talk to the park superintendent, dave eeubaraga. >> the fundamental issue is it degrades the overall experience. the views will be impaired within 30% of the park where the visitors come. the night sky will be jeopardized. there is no water in the place they have designated for development. >> how do you balance the need to protect the grand canyon but also with the need to develop it and make it accessible to people? how do you balance those two things? >> other than a few parking lots and a transportation system, this place is, and you can look around, this place is what it watts in the early 1900s. so what they've seen for last 85 to 100 years is what people will come to experience and it's what's behind us that's the most
important. >> reporter: the time line for the escalade project is unclear but one of the biggest points of contention is the proposed tram. the canyon floor is sacred to native tribes and special to visitors because it is so remotel and isolated. if you want to journey to the floor of the canyon you only have a couple of options. you can go by mule, that takes about four to five hours. or you could like down. that takes about a day, one way. the proposed tram would shuttle 10,000 people per day from the rim to the river in a matter of minutes. >> not everybody can go to top of the mountain everest, not everybody can go to the bottom of grand canyon. not everybody is going to go to place those places so we try to provide a full spectrum and what was proposed by the developers in the escalade project was an angle, they want to get as many
>> in tonight's arts segment, eric bogosian, the actor and playwright, is also a best selling author. his latest work is about the people who hunted down the victims of the a& yearm armenia. genocide. >> i heard about the a armenia genocide. this was a young engineering student who saw talat five years after the genocide, felt he was excelled to shoot him, he did, there was a trial, he was acquitted and i felt this would make a great movie. a movie that would talk about
the armenian genocide. >> but this story was bigger than that. >> sololam tatlarian wasn't just a student, he was part of an assassination squad. in 1921 and 1922 they tracked down these form he turkish leaders. >> a band of assassins. >> probably 20 people but the key killers the actual guys with guns in their hands numbered about six or seven. there were spice, there were other people working and they knocked off six major turkish leaders from the oat stowman empire. >> it's very personal for you. when you talk -- ottoman empire.
>> my grand father was a survivor he somehow got out of asia minor in 1915 with his life. he was about 20 years old. and when i was a little kid he used to sit me on his lap and say, if you ever meet a turk, kill him. i was really little when i first heard those words. and of course as a little kid i didn't really know what to make of any of this. even the stories that he told me the horrible stories from what had happened, they didn't even call it a genocide in the '60s. over time as an adult i had to sort of rethink, what was he really thinking about? what really happened over there? so for me there is a personal part of it to kind of learn more, really get the details. and it turned out to be quite a complex tapestry. it is not as simple as good guys and bad guys although there is no question -- >> are there good guys? are the assassins the heroes of
your book? >> the assassins are the heroes of the book because they were here rows theros to the armenia. they did something that was ex iexistentially necessary. to memorialize these that had been so brutally killed, to this day turkey doesn't acknowledge officially there was this concerted planned killing of these civilians. >> why? >> why don't they admit it? i would say they don't admit becausadmit itbecause they don'. >> the white house doesn't call it genocide either. >> there is a state department relationship to turkey that i feel and many of us feel does what turkey wants them to do and
they don't need to do what turkey wants. i think it's -- i hate to use the word cowardly but i really don't see the united states, the most powerful country on earth needs to do what turkey wants them to did. >> so what do you want people to take away from this book? >> i think this is an amazing story and i think anybody interested in history has to know this history. this is a situation, i've never heard of anything like this. if somebody can tell me about a group of people who basically remove an entire government in retribution please tell me where this has happened elsewhere in history. i also think if you are going to be interested in the armenia genocide you have to know about this story as well. because this is sort of a punctuation point, just like the arrest of eichman after world war ii. , this is part of the genocide because this is part of the
armenian answer to the gendz. >> it is a fascinating story, operation nemesis. we'll look for the movie. are. >> thank you. >> that's our broadcast. thank you for watching. i'm john siegenthaler. "ali velshi on target" is next. >> i'm ali velshi. "on target" tonight, america's cold war in the caribbean is fast coming to an end. the united states and cuba are taking steps to end more than half a century of disagreement. yet the embar go is in place. cuba is in t