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tv   The Listening Post 2017 Ep 34  Al Jazeera  September 23, 2017 10:32pm-11:01pm AST

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an hour they flew over waters east of north korea the closest they've got to the demilitarized zone in the twenty first century all in our other top story state media in iran of release footage of what they say is the successful test launch of a new ballistic missile the harm shot was launched just a few hours after it was on failed at a military parade in teheran it follows threats by donald trump that washington may withdraw from the two thousand and fifteen nuclear deal turkey's parliament has extended the mandate for its military deployment to iraq and syria in a special session convened in response to the kurdish independence referendum in iraq the turkish army also held a major military drill near the border with iraq ahead of monday's controversial vote. amnesty international says revenge of villages is still being burned in myanmar contradicting the government's statements that military operations had ended human rights group says new satellite images and video shows smoke rising from the hinge of villages and the catalan government says it won't be handing
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over control of the regional police forces ahead of october's referendum on independence from spain government has called the vote illegal and says it will begin coordinating all police efforts at it for now more news at the top of the hour in about half an hour's time but that's after the listening post which is next . hillary clinton in her own words on elections stunning and also refusing to accept blame on the hall and the biggest political upset that helen. was tough but better media failure i don't think faster wait a second
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a little bit like that when i got to tell you i had. a lower mature disappeared and you're at the listening post here are some of the media stories we're tracking this week is it too soon for some modern historical revisionism hillary clinton and her take on the coverage of her failed campaign for north korea the rhetoric has gone nuclear how are the media in the u.s. and both koreas handling it another thirty journalists in turkey are in court over the failed coup that led to the reshaping of the media landscape there and twitter wants to know how did the line for the president make him the toast of hollywood. if what they say is true and journalism really is the first rough draft of history then the second draft often comes in the form of a book written by one of the principals such as hillary clinton's take on what happened that's the title of her new book published last week and it's a statement not a question. clinton does start out by accepting responsibility for her failure to
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win the white house before moving on and sharing the blame that's where the us news media come in clinton's primary grievance with the coverage was the fixation on one story the journey her time as u.s. secretary of state she used her family's private e-mail server for official communications she says that that story overshadowed any substantive reporting of her policies and that that helped put donald trump in the oval office but is that really what happened or was hillary clinton killed by the same media ecosystem that helped make her what she is or was our starting point this week is new york city. when playing the blame game hillary clinton starts with herself she says she was the candidate she made the decisions and takes responsibility for what happened but not sole responsibility of the f.b.i.
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director saying. environment the same way the right. are still messing with arkansas but i don't think the press did their job in this election on the media there is data suggesting that more than a year before election day the dye had already been cast the coverage was taken from gallup the polling organization asked americans what topics they associated with hillary clinton compared to how they saw dong. the resulting word cloud paints a picture us news consumers primarily associated clinton with her e-mails the private server saga not her policies the trump cloud was dominated by his immigration policy with any personal issues limited to the fine print i do think there are some major outlets like the new york times kind of made a mistake by e-mail scandal with the same way they treated him scandals one and back there is never as much evidence. part of that anything fun on with clinton and
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her emails but i think she overstates influence a little bit donald trump was able to marry the spectacle of himself and he has a big happy alert person in the positive and negative kind of patients and that's harm to his ideas they bring in drugs they bring in crime they're rapists he make a flamboyant speech about his war and about his china policy or whatever with hillary clinton the only spectacle or drama people could find was this e-mail drama and whether there was something she was hiding and by comparison all the things she was saying on policy seemed tedious and boring and worthy the media's fixation on the clinton private email server was a legitimate issue you know it's pretty clear that clinton set up the private server in her home to obscure her government records that being said the singular focus on those e-mails was a distraction from the major of substantive policy issues you know when n.b.c.
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had a national security forum presidential nominees here that actually i have a host matt lauer asked five questions just on the private e-mail server kind of turning it into a very sensational story secular concerning your use of your. stance towards some of the e-mail she sent to secretary clinton's first. hillary clinton is hardly the only losing candidate to do cried the mainstream media's lack of substantial coverage of policy it's a common refrain however the aversion to substance during campaigns is not limited to the journalistic saw it also occurs at the other end of the news cameras at the times and other papers could have handled it better but at the same time they gave clinton the opportunity to go on the record about this through repeated interview requests to talk about policy issues that were important to her campaign and time. and again she wouldn't open up a campaign to talk about even those kinds of issues that was
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a suspicion that any interview she granted would be the e-mail that she hillary clinton raised hundreds of millions of dollars spent much of that money on television and radio ads i'm hillary clinton and i print this message i mean most of those ads were not policy based right they were focused on demonizing from iran and accusing him of bigotry i'll go backstage before a show of sexism i'd look a right in that said ugly face of errors of being a crook i could stand in the middle of fifth avenue and shoot somebody trying to run in the national television ads explaining her position on health care on the environment on taxes that being said it's also the media's fault we did see a very tabloid style coverage of the campaign a lot of kind of personal discussion about personal attributes of the candidates again at the expense of a serious policy discussion. again other politicians have faced that same dilemma how much substance how much exposure is best for the campaign but no other
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american presidential nominee has been a woman gender is a recurring theme in clinton's book she talks of a continuing double standard the need to be better and work harder than male politicians and the one she was up against debating against was repeatedly labeled . do you stay calm keep smiling and carry on as if he weren't repeatedly invading your space or do you turn look him in the eye and say loudly and clearly back you get away from me i know you love to intimidate women but you can't intimidate me so back. and clinton was not just trying to get past trying to a place no american woman has reached before she was trying to get there having previously played in the eyes of the media a supporting role that a first lady. and you think you have to factor sexism and. not only the outcome of the election by the way it was covered maybe gender is the is
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a better word to use and when your has become so famous for cheating on you that just reinforces that like further closes this trap in around you and so i would say that we have to consider the influence of the role of implicit bias when it came to the way the media covered clinton as a candidate the media didn't necessarily in its entirety treat such a distinctly but it was refracting and incredibly structured in a such a mistake society does not envisage a woman as being president and i think she had to fight against that in this country leadership qualities that evaluate charisma strength and people love it when they don't trump his arms around it gets ready angry hillary clinton couldn't do any of those things because when a man does it it's considered to be charismatic and strong and when a woman does it it's considered to be hectoring or screechy and i think there are now a number of studies that would back that up. it is hard to argue with what hillary clinton says about journalism and gender or her criticism of the media failing to
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properly scrutinize candida trump until very late in the election cycle what she conveniently fails to mention or prefers to ignore are the advantages she had with the washington press corps and news networks not named fox and the inevitable democratic nominee that crowned her the presumptive democratic nominee well before the first vote was cast in the primaries the question was not if it was when and how the year leading up to the democratic primary the major network media outlets provided one hundred twenty minutes of coverage to clinton and her campaign only twenty minutes to bernie sanders and less than that for other democratic candidates in this race so the network news failed in many ways and in terms of elevating the policy discussion and talking about the issues we face in society at the same time the network media. very friendly to clinton and in
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a way provided kind of an assistance to her campaign by giving her much more coverage than her opponent what surprised me most about hillary clinton's book is number one it was interesting number two recent challenge to the press and i think your program is dealing with more of the pressure do which is that many institutions the united states failed over the last year in creating the circumstances that gave us donald trump the press need to do as much self-examination as the parties themselves as all the rest of the american fabric does so i hope this will be a prod for some self-examination not to press. other media stories that are on our radar this week still with the u.s. the investigation into alleged russian meddling in last year's american presidential election continues and what feels like a snail's pace and among the organizations the f.b.i. is looking at is the russian state owned news service sputnik. sputniks former
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white house correspondent andrew feinberg says he was questioned on september first as part of that investigation he says he gave the f.b.i. u.s.b. drive containing thousands of internal e-mails from his five month stint in the job in an interview on c.b.s. news feinberg said russian news outlets are taking advantage of their american hosts we allow them to use the first amendment and our country's commitment to a free press against us the american journalist says sputnik fired him in may after he refused to ask the white house press secretary a question that his superiors wanted him to ask for the pre-election clampdown on the news media is a tactic we've seen more and more governments adopt and you can add the government of cambodia to that list among the outlets targeted radio free asia the us government funded network says it has suspended operations in phnom penh due to government intimidation another nineteen radio stations of closed in cambodia over the past month over their relationship with our f.a. and another u.s.
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funded radio service voice of america the election is coming up next year on prime minister hun sen's government has also shut down an english language newspaper the cambodia daily over and big u.s. allegations of tax evasion the paper's editor douglas steele has been barred from leaving the country the new york based committee to protect journalists says if cambodia wants to be viewed as a democracy this campaign of intimidation must stop in turkey thirty one journalists at a newspaper that is now out of print have gone on trial facing possible life sentences over their alleged role in last year's failed coup the former employees of the amman daily and its english language sister publication today's amman face charges of membership of an armed terror organization and attempting to overthrow the government through their newspapers links to a u.s. based opposition figure for to look who was accused of backing the coup some on turkey's largest selling daily was seized by the government of march of two thousand and sixteen. and changed its editorial to an overnight supporting
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president heir to one before being shut down completely in july of that year turkey is now fourteen months into its state of emergency and has reportedly put more than one hundred seventy journalists behind bars since the failed coup making it the world's worst jailor of media workers another fifty thousand in turkey have been arrested and more than one hundred sixty five thousand subjected to legal proceedings on suspicion of links to the ruling movement the turkish authorities have frequently called on the us to extradite the cleric a request that so far has been denied. for months now the leaders of north korea and the united states have been goading each other in a war of words over the unthinkable the possibility of a nuclear war with each missile test each nuclear test conducted by pyongyang donald trump has responded with aggressive rhetoric usually delivered in one hundred forty characters or fewer the un's general assembly got
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a taste of that this past week when president trump threatened to totally destroy north korea if the u.s. is forced to defend itself or its allies as the u.s. news media have learned a striking the right tone and not being alarmist over this kind of story presents its editorial challenges sandwiched between north korean propaganda and the unpredictability of the trump white house is south korea where the media are also trying to keep a level head all the better informed and more cautious in tone the newsmakers the south korean media are covering are also struggling to make sense of what's coming out of washington the listening posts to me not to ravi now on the distance between most of the global media and this particular news story and how the further the media are from the korean peninsula the more imminent the prospect of nuclear war seems to be. with stakes this high. thank you no my intensions will disagree and president
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trump warning the regime today against making any more threats toward the u.s. they will be met with a fine. this is the kind of news story that doesn't need sensationalizing. but still look at the coverage and it's there outright from north korea which is a whole no. talk about this the more possibility of misperception miscalculation even though both sides don't want to walk for two or almost in the background you significantly raise the possibility that somebody might actually do something foolish or more likely to get into a miscalculation or through a cop that is right by them especially now media coverage is probably more important than ever because we know that the president of the united states is an avid. consumer so recently i watched m s n b c and more than once they just repeated that kim jong un is a madman the chinese would allow
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a madman on their border you know this man with weapons is a mad man the art of the deal meeting dr strangelove that's not a very good analysis he wants nuclear weapons for strategic purposes but if you were just watching that show will you come away with this crazy is this a person who is rational enough and you have to worry that. there isn't a decision makers generally but specifically now president from. sometimes news outlets aiming for brevity shorthand there in accuracy and sensationalism that's where the regime in july the head of the cia suggested washington could be considering options to move kim jong. un replied saying it would quote strike the u.s. with a powerful nuclear hammer if the united states tried regime change. the shorthand
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version in a headline in u.s. magazine newsweek left out the second half of the north korean statement i think there's a huge double standard when it comes to the threats that are imposed by north korea and and u.s. threats because you know north korea is seen as the axis of evil the communist state of the rogue nation related to missile launch the dictatorship mysterious and secretive nation that irrational kim jong un and doing something unpredictable and dangerous is creating an almost god like image from somebody's home whereas the u.s. is seen within the paradigm of democracy and freedom and rationality whatever it is forced to defend itself or tell lies we will have no choice but to totally destroy north korea. north korea is one of the most isolated countries in the world there are just too far the news bureaus in pyongyang of the news agencies and if foreign
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journalists are sometimes invited in to witness big events or we could still see a missile launch today is something but getting access to north korean sources is a significant challenge for reporters. that the lack of access to what's really going on creates suspicion and ultimately feeds the rumor mill that speculation turns into new stories video games scenarios and even film plot you want to kill the leader of north korea when rumors about strange customs or something weird pops up online it's easy to believe that they're true and as a package over time you get the impression that these are people that are fundamentally irrational and strange and really have nothing to do with us and that's a common feature in wars always your enemy is the other very difficult to understand barely human maybe in some ways it makes it seem like a bit vague. joke as well as kind of don't you have something better to do like
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planting crops than worrying about what styles of hair women than men should be allowed to do and i think that this can contribute to a relationship where north korea is very good it's seen as very otherworldly and may make some of the threats from the western side more palatable and this. serves in the interests of north korea's opponents and their military interests because you have this very simplistic frame good logical rational people versus crazy monsters and i. care about them and they're prepared to have millions of their citizen die and this actually hinders understanding north korea's very rational motivations. missiles in nuclear weapons. north and south korea have been in a standoff for more than seventy years in south korean media the proximity to the
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conflict and access to some information from north korean defectors has produced a different more informed journalism and. the donald trump factor has sent a jolt through the south korean media landscape. on this u.s. president and the possibility of american intervention in the region conservative activists traditionally hawkish and pro-u.s. find themselves in the same camp as liberal outlets that favor diplomatic engagement and are often skeptical of u.s. involvement. in mid april just an ill bill published a newspaper headline articulating fears of trump quote going on north korea the increased tension since the term presidency have also pushed political discourse in
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south korea to the right with conservative media outlets opening a debate that was considered closed a long time ago the possibility of a nuclear ised south korea and there's a lot of anxiety from governments which when you talk about nuclear weapons really scares a lot including servicing conservatives are so many points for the president because there's a more hawkish on north korea so over to you a little known for you know it's been you know. this doesn't go to work in a regular white truck is just so unpredictable me so erratic and some of the things he said about our trip and so sharp want to program right and that anything except how you're going south koreans but presidents. sometimes. there is a crucial component to the story historically and in the one nine hundred fifty s. the u.s. played a lead role in intervening against the north korean invasion of the south. that war never actually ended there's been an armistice in place since one thousand fifty three some episodes of the us his role in the north-south conflict through the cold
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war and since have been forgotten or lost in sensationalist coverage they want bilateral negotiations with the people that have never kept an agreement in their life and that also contributes to the matter to him that north korea is soley responsible for the escalating tensions and that each crisis is a new one i do think there's a kind of historical myopia on media reporting on north korea the historical context is very important on north korea and partly that's because the north korean government and military remember the history of the korean war by contrast in america of course the korean war you know forgotten they came very quickly after the second world war when it was just a lot of war fatigue and so people one interested in it at the time and there's not been that much study of it since then either. months of news coverage of the verbal to and fro between washington and pyongyang have done little to clarify or improve
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what we know of the so-called hermit kingdom. north korea remains closed to most of the world and much of the u.s. media continue to push incomplete sometimes catches representations of the country and for the two leaders caught in a war of words there has been little effort to tone down the tension or the rhetoric. and finally to call the white house communications office a shakespearean tragedy would be at the very least premature but there is a line from macbeth the does seem to fit some of the dearly departed individuals names like spicer's gorka and vanity paraphrasing now nothing in his life became him quite like leaving before quitting his job press secretary sean spicer was criticized for constantly lying to the american people now the. out spicer gets to do comic cameos at the american t.v. industry's annual love fest the emmy awards spicer did get some laughs at the event
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but plenty of hackles from the cheap seats on social media well the next time you're at the listening post or anyone who can say how big the audience is sean do you know. you. and me period.
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