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tv   The Listening Post 2017 Ep 34  Al Jazeera  September 24, 2017 5:32pm-6:01pm AST

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ahead head of u.n. refugee agency has been meeting with refugees and bangladeshi camps to tell philip about the murder rate and violence they say is happening and man maurice rakhine state. this has been twenty fifth of august the fastest and most urgent refugee emergency in the world you know the figures but let me repeat them we estimate that four hundred then almost four hundred and thirty thousand refugees from myanmar or from northern state. poor into bangladesh in the past few week. violence to stop because it is that violence that has caused the flight of the people violence has to stop terminate chancellor angela merkel has cast her vote in a general election that she is favored to win the center right incumbent and of course later in the c.d.u. party is expected to earn
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a fourth term in office it's unlikely her party will achieve a majority feeling uncertainty about what kind of ruling ruling coalition will emerge the social democrat candidate martin selfie appeared in. line with his wife he urged people to boycott the far right. party as are the headlines news continues after the listening post keep it here. from the tropics of southeast asia to the federal islands in the far north atlantic one of the women who crossed the world for love and stage changing communities. at this time i know it is iran. hillary clinton in her own words on the field let him stunning and also refusing to accept blame for being on the wrong and the biggest political upset that hillary. was tough but major media failures i don't think the best week of it like it was our god given right now i have. a lower image of disappeared and you're at the
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listening post here are some of the media stories we're tracking this week is it too soon for some modern historical revisionism hillary clinton and her take on the coverage of her failed campaign north korea the rhetoric has gone nuclear how are the media in the u.s. and both previous handling it another thirty journalists in turkey are in court over the failed coup that led to the reshaping of the media landscape there and twitter wants to know how did the line for the president make him the toast of hollywood. if what they say is true and journalism really is the first rough draft of history then the second draft often comes in the form of a book written by one of the principals such as hillary clinton's take on what happened that's the title of her new book published last week and it's a statement not a question. clinton does start out by accepting responsibility for her failure to win the white house before moving on and sharing the blame that's where the us news
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media come in clinton's primary grievance with the coverage was the fixation on one story the journey her time as u.s. secretary of state she used her family's private e-mail server for official communications she says that that story overshadowed any substantive reporting of her policies and that that helped put donald trump in the oval office but is that really what happened or was hillary clinton killed by the same media ecosystem that helped make her what she is or was our starting point this week is new york city. when playing the blame game hillary clinton starts with herself she says she was the candidate she made the decisions and takes responsibility for what happened but not sole responsibility of the f.b.i. director saying. environment the same way the right. are still messing
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with arkansas that i don't think the press did their job in this election on the media there is data suggesting that more than a year before election day the dye had already been cast the coverage was taken from gallup the polling organization asked americans what topics they associated with hillary clinton compared to how they saw dong truck the resulting word cloud paints a picture us news consumers primarily associated clinton with her e-mails the private server saga not her policies the trump cloud was dominated by his immigration policy with any personal issues limited to the fine print i think there are some major outlets like the new york times kind of made a mistake by e-mail scandal with the same way they treated her back there is never as much evidence. the pride that anything in your birth went on with clinton and her emails but i think she overstates influence
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a little bit donald trump was able to marry the spectacle of himself and he has a big capital or person in the positive and negative connotation is that that's harm to his ideas they bring in drugs they bring in crime they're rapists he make a flamboyant speech about his war and about his china policy or whatever with hillary clinton the only spectacle or drama people could find was this e-mail drama and whether there was something she was hiding and by comparison all the things she was saying on policy seemed tedious and boring and worthy the media's fixation on the clinton private email server was a legitimate issue you know it's pretty clear that clinton set up the private server in her home to obscure her government records that being said the singular focus on those e-mails was a distraction from the major of substantive policy issues you know when n.b.c. had a national security forum presidential nominees here that actually i have
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a host matt lauer asked five questions just on the private e-mail server kind of turning it into a very sensational story secular concerning your use of your personal. stance to receive some of the e-mail she sent to secretary clinton's first. hillary clinton is hardly the only losing candidate to do cried the mainstream media's lack of substantial coverage of policy it's a common refrain however the aversion to substance during campaigns is not limited to the journalistic saw it also occurs at the other end of the news count. of the times and other papers could have handled it better but at the same time they gave clinton the opportunity to go on the record about this through repeated interview requests to talk about policy issues that were important to her campaign and time. and again she wouldn't open up a campaign to talk about even those kinds of issues that was a suspicion that any interview she granted would be the e-mail that she hillary
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clinton raised hundreds of millions of dollars spent much of that money on television and radio ads i'm hillary clinton and i print this message i mean most of those ads were not policy based right they were focused on demonizing the. accusing him of bigotry i'll go backstage before a show of sexism and look at right in that said ugly face of errors of being a crook and i could stand in the middle of fifth avenue and shoot somebody trying to run in the national television ads explaining her position on health care on the environment on taxes that being said it's also the media's fault we did see a very tabloid style coverage of the campaign a lot of kind of personal discussion about personal attributes of the candidates again at the expense of a serious policy discussion. again other politicians have faced that same dilemma how much substance how much exposure is best for the campaign but no other american presidential nominee has been a woman gender is
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a recurring theme in clinton's book she talks of a continuing double standard the need to be better and work harder than male politicians and the one she was up against debating against was repeatedly labeled on the song do you stay calm keep smiling and carry on as if he weren't repeatedly invading your space or do you turn look him in the eye and say loudly and clearly back you creep get away from me i know you love to intimidate women but you can't intimidate me so back. and clinton was not just trying to get past trying to a place no american woman has reached before she was trying to get there having previously played in the eyes of the media a supporting role that a first lady. and you think you have to factor sexism and. not only the outcome of the election by the way it was covered maybe gendered is the is a better word to use and when your has become so famous for cheating on you that
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just reinforces that like further closes this trap in around you and so i would say that we have to consider the influence of the role of implicit bias when it came to the way the media covered clinton as a candidate the media didn't necessarily in its entirety treat such a distinctly but it was refracting and incredibly structured in a such a mistake society does not envisage a woman as being president and i think she had to fight against that in this country leadership qualities that evaluate charisma strength and people love it when they don't trump his arms around it gets ready angry hillary clinton couldn't do any of those things because when a man does it it's considered to be charismatic and strong and when a woman does it it's considered to be hectoring or screech i think never there were a number of studies that would but. it is hard to argue with what hillary clinton says about journalism and gender or her criticism of the media failing to properly
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scrutinize candida trump until very late in the election cycle what she conveniently fails to mention or prefers to ignore are the advantages she had with the washington press corps and news networks not named fox and the inevitable democratic nominee that crowned her the presumptive democratic nominee well before the first vote was cast in the primaries the question was not if it was when and how the year leading up to the democratic primary the major network media outlets provided one hundred twenty minutes of coverage to clinton and her campaign and only twenty minutes to bernie sanders and less than that for other democratic candidates in this race so the network news failed in many ways and in terms of elevating the policy discussion and talking about the issues we face in society at the same time the network media. very friendly to clinton and in a way provided kind of an assistance to her campaign by giving her much more coverage than her opponents what surprised me most about hillary clinton's book is
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number one it was interesting that number two recent challenge to the press and i think your program is dealing with more of the pressure do which is that many institutions the united states failed over the last year in creating the circumstances that gave us donald trump the press need to do as much self-examination as the parties themselves as all the rest of the american fabric does so i hope this will be a prod for some self-examination not to press. other media stories that are on our radar this week still with the u.s. the investigation into alleged russian meddling in last year's american presidential election continues and what feels like a snail's pace and among the organizations the f.b.i. is looking at is the russian state owned news service sputnik. sputniks former white house correspondent andrew feinberg says he was questioned on september first
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as part of that investigation he says he gave the f.b.i. u.s.b. drive containing thousands of internal e-mails from his five month stint in the job in an interview on c.b.s. news feinberg said russian news outlets are taking advantage of their american hosts we allow them to use the first amendment and our country's commitment to a free press against us the american journalist says sputnik fired him in may after he refused to ask the white house press secretary a question that his superiors wanted him to ask for the pre-election clampdown on the news media is a tactic we've seen more and more governments adopt and you can add the government of cambodia to that list among the outlets targeted radio free asia the us government funded network says it has suspended operations in phnom penh due to government intimidation another nineteen radio stations of closed in cambodia over the past month over their relationship with our f.a. and another u.s. funded radio service voice of america the election is coming up next year on prime
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minister hun sen's government has also shut down an english language newspaper the cambodia daily over and big u.s. allegations of tax evasion the paper's editor douglas steele has been barred from leaving the country the new york based committee to protect journalists says if cambodia wants to be viewed as a democracy this campaign of intimidation must stop in turkey thirty one journalists at a newspaper that is now out of print have gone on trial facing possible life sentences over their alleged role in last year's failed coup the former employees of the amman daily and its english language sister publication today's amman face charges of membership of an armed terror organization and attempting to overthrow the government through their newspapers links to a u.s. based opposition figure for to look who was accused of backing the coup some on turkey's largest selling daily was seized by the government of march of two thousand and sixteen. and changed its editorial to an overnight supporting president heir to one before being shut down completely in july of that year turkey
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is now fourteen months into its state of emergency and has reportedly put more than one hundred seventy journalists behind bars since the failed coup making it the world's worst jailor of media workers another fifty thousand in turkey have been arrested and more than one hundred sixty five thousand subjected to legal proceedings on suspicion of links to the ruling movement the turkish authorities have frequently called on the u.s. to extradite the cleric a request that so far has been denied and. for months now the leaders of north korea and the united states have been goading each other in a war of words over the unthinkable the possibility of a nuclear war with each missile test each nuclear test conducted by pyongyang donald trump has responded with aggressive rhetoric usually delivered in one hundred forty characters or fewer the un's general assembly got a taste of that this past week when president trump threatened to totally destroy
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north korea if the u.s. is forced to defend itself or its allies as the u.s. news media have learned a striking the right tone and not being alarmist over this kind of story presents its editorial challenges sandwiched between north korean propaganda and the unpredictability of the trump white house is south korea where the media are also trying to keep a level head all the better informed and more cautious in tone the newsmakers the south korean media are covering are also struggling to make sense of what's coming out of washington the listening posts to me not to ravi now on the distance between most of the global media and this particular news story and how the further the media are from the korean peninsula the more imminent the prospect of nuclear war seems to be. with stakes this high. thank you no my intensions will disagree and president
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trump warning the regime today against making any more threats toward the u.s. they will be met with a fine. this is the kind of news story that doesn't need sensationalizing. but still look at the coverage and it's there outright from north korea which is a whole no. talk about this more possibility of misperception miscalculation even though both sides don't want to walk our sort of rhetorical motion back from you significantly raise the possibility that somebody might actually do something foolish or more likely to get into a miscalculation or through a cop that is right by them especially now media coverage is probably more important than ever because we know that the president of the united states is an avid. consumer so recently i watched m s n b c and more than once they just repeated that kim jong un is a madman the chinese would allow a madman on their border you know this man with weapons is
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a mad man the art of the deal meeting dr strangelove that's not a very good analysis he wants nuclear weapons for strategic purposes but if you were just watching that show will you come away with this crazy is this a person who is rational enough and you have to worry that. there isn't a decision makers generally but specifically now no president from. able news. sometimes news outlets aiming for brevity shorthand their inaccuracy and sensationalism that's where the regime in july the head of the cia suggested washington could be considering options to move kim jong. un replied saying it would quote strike the u.s. with a powerful nuclear hammer if the united states tried regime change. the shorthand version in a headline in u.s. magazine newsweek left out the second half of the north korean statement i think
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there's a huge double standard when it comes to the threats that are imposed by north korea and and u.s. threats because you know north korea is seen as the axis of evil the communist state of the rogue nation related to missile launch the dictatorship mysterious and secretive nation that irrational and doing something unpredictable and dangerous is creating an almost god like image from somebody's home whereas the u.s. is seen within the paradigm of democracy and freedom and rationality whatever it is forced to defend itself or its allies we will have no choice but to totally destroy north korea. north korea is one of the most isolated countries in the world there are just too far the news bureaus in pyongyang of the news agencies and if foreign journalists are sometimes invited in to witness big events or we could still see
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a missile launch today but getting access to not putting in sources is a significant challenge for reporters. that the lack of access to what's really going on creates suspicion and ultimately feeds the rumor mill that speculation turns into news stories video games scenarios and even film plot yours to kill the leader of north korea when rumors about strange customs or something weird up online it's easy to believe that they're true and as a package over time you get the impression that these are people that are fundamentally irrational and strange really have nothing to do with us and that's a common feature in wars always your enemy is the other very difficult to understand barely human maybe in some ways it makes it seem like a bit. joke as well as kind of something better to do like planting crops than
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worrying about what styles of hair women and men should be allowed to do i think. a relationship with north korea is very of that it's seen as very otherworldly and may make some threats from the western side more palatable and this. serves in the interests of north korea's opponents and their military interests because you have this very simplistic frame good logical rational people versus crazy monsters and i. care about them and they're prepared to have millions of their citizens die and this actually hinders understanding north korea's very rational motivations. missiles and nuclear weapons. north and south korea have been in a standoff for more than seventy years in south korean media the proximity to the conflict and access to some information from north korean defectors has produced
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a different more informed journalism and. the donald trump factor has sent a jolt through the south korean media landscape. on this u.s. president and the possibility of american intervention in the region conservative outlets traditionally hawkish and pro-u.s. find themselves in the same camp as liberal outlets that favor diplomatic engagement and are often skeptical of u.s. involvement. in mid april chosen in bull published a newspaper headline articulating fears of trump quote going on north korea the increased tension since the term presidency have also pushed political discourse in south korea to the right with conservative media outlets opening
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a debate that was considered closed a long time ago the possibility of a nuclear ised south korea and there's a lot of anxiety from governments which when you talk about nuclear weapons really scares a lot including conservatism conservatism so many points from the president because they're more hawkish on north korea so over to you a little known when you know it's been you know. doesn't go to work in a regular training my truck is just so unpredictable me so erratic and some of the things he said about our trip and so sharp want to program right and that anything except you're going south korean president. sometimes. there is a crucial component to the story historically and in the one nine hundred fifty s. the u.s. played a lead role in intervening against the north korean invasion of the south. that war never actually ended there's been an armistice in place since one nine hundred fifty three some episodes of the us his role in the north south conflict through the cold war and since have been forgotten or lost in sensationalist coverage they
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want bilateral negotiations with the people that have never kept an agreement in their life and that also contributes to the matter to him that north korea is soley responsible for the escalating tensions and that each crisis is a new one i do think there's a kind of historical myopia of media reporting on north korea the historical context is very important on north korea and partly that's because the north korean government and military remember the history of the korean war by contrast in america of course the korean war you know forgotten they came in very quickly after the second world war when it was just a lot of war fatigue and so people won and trusted in at the time and there's not been that much study of it since then either. months of news coverage of the verbal to and fro between washington and pyongyang have done little to clarify or improve what we know of the so-called hermit kingdom. north korea remains closed to most of
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the world much of the u.s. media continue to push incomplete sometimes captured representations of the country and for the two leaders caught in a war of words there has been little effort to tone down the tension or the rhetoric. and finally to call the white house communications office a shakespearean tragedy would be at the very least premature but there is a line from macbeth the does seem to fit some of the dearly departed individuals names like spicer's gorka and vanity paraphrasing now nothing in his life became him quite like leaving before quitting his job press secretary sean spicer was criticized for constantly lying to the american people now the. spicer gets to do comic cameos at the american t.v. industry's annual love fest the emmy awards spicer did get some laughs at the event but plenty of hackles from the cheap seats on social media was the next time. there
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anyone who can say how big the audience is sean do you know. when you and me period.
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the nature of news as it breaks many of the people here came to this camp with injuries and illnesses already with detailed coverage the border between china and north korea stretches for more than forty the part of it kilometers long like the
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demilitarized zone the obvious fear here is very relaxed from around the world the water that comes in the trucks they lift pump water from the shallow holes as if he is full of sediment and of course the high risk of disease. i just want to make sure all of our audience is on the same page where they're online and want to produce to us citizens here and what puts people of iraq by one and the same or if you join us on saturday i was never put a file been looked at differently because i'm doctored than all the people that i'm a watch this is a dialogue tweet us with hash tag into a stream and one of your pitches might make the next show join the global conversation at this time on al-jazeera. we understand the differences. and the similarities of cultures across the world so no matter how you take it al-jazeera will bring you the news and current affairs
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