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tv   The Stream 2018 Ep 9  Al Jazeera  January 15, 2018 10:32pm-11:00pm +03

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banks refused to bail out its three billion dollars of debt the british government says it will ensure there's no disruption to public services there are calls for a public inquiry but he fired tear gas at protesters outside parliament in athens as politicians inside debated a new series of austerity measures needed to trigger a final round of bailout loans the bill also includes controversial legislation making it more difficult for workers to strike thirty eight people have been killed after two suicide bombs were detonated during rush hour in the iraqi capital baghdad one hundred others were wounded in the attack which happened in a busy commercial district where laborers had gathered in search of work is the fourth attack on the capital in the past forty eight hours the united arab emirates has accused cattery air force jets of twice intercepting civilian iraqi aircraft during flights to bahrain qatar is foreign ministry has denied the allegation and u.s.
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central command in the middle east says it hasn't received any reports of civilian flights being intercepted in the gulf skies. there's some of us your knowledge there are the streams up next on the news for you after that by finance. i have a ok and you're in the stream u.s. president donald trump's tough talk on immigration policy has tens of thousands of people wondering whether they'll be forced to leave the country from the potential end of legal residency programs to the president's opposition to so-called chain migration we speak with
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a few of those potentially impacted to learn how they're preparing for an uncertain future. today live on al-jazeera and you tube. video. immigration policy was a highlight of then candidate donald trump's bid for the u.s. presidency now almost a year since taking office he's making a hard push for comprehensive reform this issue was suggested to us by a member of our own like community. peter here's how our white house correspondent kimberly how it has been reporting the story on al-jazeera. donald trump was defiant when asked in a joint press conference with the norwegian prime minister whether he would sign an immigration deal that does not include funding for a border wall with mexico. but you know. it's got to include the war we need the world for security we need the wall for safety we need the wall for stopping the
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drugs from boring you trump appears to be giving little ground on finding a compromise to immigration reform it comes after signaling he may be willing to yield to demands by democrats to keep in place protections for illegal immigrants brought to the united states as children the program commonly known as dhaka allows kids brought to the united states before their sixtieth birthday to remain in the country democrats want to keep it and have threatened to stop funding the government over the issue so as the deadline to reform dr rapidly approaches how are the programs beneficiaries responding to the news and what's the likely outcome we're here to help us discuss mariano martinez peroni is a university student and recipient or so and i said we have. an immigration lawyer and should be joining us all the way through our show to help break down what all these changes potentially could mean so it's good to have him out of. money on your
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story hallo there you are a doc a recipient you have papers you have legal documentation what makes you a dream what was your story. probably everything about it starting from my parents who came here for that is dream. and going on through me i just you know regular day and i guess i want to go to school i want to get a great job and you can help my family you know that's kind of the dream and how old were you when you left you came to the u.s. i was two years old. so from that time and to the days where we see of course a dreamer's in the news in the headlines very often we got this tweet from raymond he says the legislative uncertainty has been incredibly traumatic one day there's a glimmer of hope and the next day the hope is once again shattered can you relate
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to that at all this idea that you never really feel settled completely that's kind of my life people always ask me that and they kind of laugh at i guess how nonchalant i am about it now because. after a certain point like pulling your hair out and crying and stressing out and it's not healthy you know yes do you contribute the best you can go to the rallies. but beyond that there's not much you can do so you can just have that negative. outlook on it you have to i guess come to terms with. the let me share this with you i'm showing you seen this from donald trump on january the fourteenth that is probably dead because the democrats don't really want it they just want to talk and take desperately needed money away from our military now is this policy does this while you as an immigration. absolutely i
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mean just to piggyback on the stressors i was just speaking to as a practitioner wanting to give sound legal counsel to your clients there is a black hole because it's that it's that tenuous right now and. as we speak we really don't know what's around the corner. so because you don't know what's around the corner that probably makes the answer to this little bit harder but i want to bring this up from rod's rigo he says unfortunately there is a lot of uncertainty surrounding doc up except for the following he lists along the thread of things on twitter and you can check out it out there under hash tag or stream but this first one he says the injunction that allows dreamers to renew will be appealed doctor is dead this will likely be a bury a limited window of opportunity he tweeted that generally fourteenth seven thirty four pm local time what then would you advise or what should dr recipients be in talks about with their immigration lawyers so right now there is
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a window for people that were not eligible to renu back in the fall to take advantage of that gap and the way that talk is working so far for individuals that were able to renu it timely is that they are at the very least protected from remove all up until twenty nineteen so this new wave of people if they take advantage of this little window may have at least some sort of solar cell reprieve for that window period of time what happens after that what if it is dead that's the answer that we don't know how to tell us the reality if you plan your next six months how do you do that. carefully. so i am going back to school for the spring semester but after that. roughly what from where any. doctor two years. twenty nine thousand. i gotta
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fix whatever we're going to do and pack up and go or. if i have to drop out of school and go back to work if i can continue studying how we've added even know how exactly we would be you know like take it out of the country would we you know be packed up what are called come to our house and rushed us would we be serving time do you get like a notification or a few months to prepare. it's just it's a little nerve wracking not going to live my out to are you stay with us we're going to hear a lot more from the. group to now go to story that's but she's another member of our online community about the temporary protected status program or t.p.s. it's similar to the benefits provided to undocumented t.p.s. allows people fleeing from conflict. to find safe haven in the u.s. but for thousands of salvadoran t.p.s. how does the government's recent decision to tell me. now what's them at risk of
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deportation how does a senior correspondent rob reynolds reports. in washington demonstrators gathered in front of the white house monday protesting a decision by the trumpet ministration to take away temporary protected status or t.p.s. for more than two hundred thousand salvadoran they had been permitted to live in the u.s. following disastrous earthquakes that struck their homeland in two thousand and one the troubled ministration says t.p.s. was never meant to be permanent and that social disruptions caused by the earthquakes no longer exist. el salvador is one of the world's most dangerous places it had the highest murder rate of any country in two thousand and fifteen powerful gangs operate with near impunity and poverty and unemployment are dire activists say political pressure is needed to reverse the decision and that many
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children of salvadoran parents were born in the u.s. and thus are american citizens. well after two decades living in the u.s. how are some of these salvadorans responding to the decision and the possibility that they may have to leave and joining us now is milady of us she is a t.p.s. holder living in the u.s. state of texas welcome to the show milagro i want to just start with these tweets we got from someone named ozzie to cheer on twitter he says i've grown up as an american embracing the values i once thought universal in the united states the decision to end t.p.s. is devastating to the salvadoran community the american economy and the american community at large and he gives a specific reason and this next week he says this decision will not only separate salvadoran american children from their t.p.s. holding parents but it will detract from an already struggling skilled labor sector which depends heavily on salvadoran t.p.s. beneficiaries milagro that point about separating american born children from their
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t.p.s. holding parents can you relate to that is that something that you are having to think about right now you know with the pianist like. we will be laying in the limbo again where we can all go back to work on chilled concha right now with very then you heard one of them was then euros counters and they were right no we go over there that would be like a bait gang members. only showing people we have been don't know everything. tell us a story about how you got to the u.s. . i came through at tory's vsam when i was twenty so i've been here for twenty years and i call for a to their society their feel part of this country have been done everything right in and out or permits was like i understand that it was temporary at the beginning but you know after like sixteen years it's not anymore temporarily we've been here
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like for almost two decades so it's a very long time it's really hard for us you know to to go back i haven't been in my conflict since i got here my kids they don't know their concert or theirs and these kwanzaa. no to this idea about temporary how problematic this is of the legal rights of people who have t.p.s. what rights to the actually have when you are given t.p.s. you are allowed to work and in very narrow circumstances you can ask for permission to leave the country typically those circumstances are if there is a medical emergency and or school related or business related. and that's it it's a protection against deportation but it's not a path to legal status so a lot of times you'll hear folks say hey why don't you get a green card you've been here so long they have to pass because they don't have any other way to get that status so there are few people i mean talking about the temporary aspect of this that you just mentioned to load and on one hand you have
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people who are understanding of it on the other hand you have people who are critical so esther on twitter says existing in a long term cycle of temporary status for the past seventeen years placed t.p.s. recipients of all salvador in a legally precarious situation making them unsure of their futures in the u.s. so she can understand what that must feel like here's a question though from sam and he says if the status was made for a disaster or war and catastrophic. incident that forced people to find refuge in the us and that condition is over then yes i agree they should go but what would you say to people who say this was temporary and it's not necessarily the trumpet ministrations fault that it wasn't taken away so many years ago let me tell you something when i left my calling it was better than the way we do it's right no i think right now we need more of that neighbor right now very then you don't believe anybody ben you know see we go there we're just going to go out to the. let
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me show you some pictures from your family so i can show our audience it's not just about one people individual people it's about connecting with families as well this one i think this is about as american as apple pie disney hollywood studios we've got you know mom him a lot of growth and you know happy edwin and these two little munchkins who are they. yeah they are my kids they're my to little ones ok another picture here with you again how it's interesting to see how american do you feel right now do you feel like you're from el salvador you feel like you're from the u.s. well i am from my old club out of my quantity but i feel that i'm belong to be it's going to have been here for so many years i love this country i love the people in the people they made me feel like i'm part of them i never feel any discrimination or anything from anyone so this is kind of straight is kind of mixed feeling i don't know how can i express the feel do you even think about it we cannot go back
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whole country that i don't even remember how we looked like. so later we got this comment from someone watching live on you tube. if the u.s. doesn't heed expel people in the tens of thousands may these victims of forced migration be eligible for asylum in other developed countries is that something that you're even recommending for people to find other countries that may take them well that's a personal choice for a lot of people that's just not an option especially if you've been living here for decades to be sure if t.p.s. or it when it's terminated or whether it's t.p.s. or talk of the question of what happens we will ice show up at my door will i be carted away in a bus or in a caravan to the border traditionally in the past that under the table world and so very well likely that will happen again and that's what people will do especially if you've got mixed status families where half of them are here illegally they're
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not going to just pack up and seek refuge in another country because this is home and so that person who commented earlier about the precarious situation that they're in that's a reality and i don't know that the answer is deportation. stick around a bit more for our roundtable at the end of the show we now move on to the fight to keep immigrant families together president trumpets frequently voiced his opposition to family based migration that's an intensive and sometimes costly process that allows us citizens and green card holders to sponsor relatives for permanent residence or critics of the current system say petition should be limited to parents and their children trumps administration has also endorsed legislation promoting a point based system pro immigration groups though say such reforms are less about the economy or national security and more about the government picking and choosing what sort of immigrants can come to the u.s. so what does the future of immigration look like for people hoping to build new laws and communities in the u.s.
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here with us to help answer that question richard davis he's a community activist in new york everything from guyana riches in the last couple of the last year in the community around the guy and he's commuting around what is changing the way they think about their immigration status if that documented or undocumented what's like being in america right now. we my family actually came here on family perfect visas the reality is this particular topic hasn't really gotten a lot of attention and conversation in the community because of comments that the president makes a kind of monopoly monopolize rather than narrative and bigger. daca topics about you know do. ice raids in communities but this specific topic which is one. guy in his community uses or marilee to come to new york but families across the world used to come to the united states is one that's on the road and
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really hasn't gotten a lot of attention or discussion even in the community and i say he said immigration customs enforcement right there we get this this graphic comes from numbers usa which is a group in the united states who want to control immigration and they say from one person one family member look at all of the number of people who potentially could end up coming to the united states now a lot is quite a lot of people from one family member over the top it's over the top when you look at it from a practical perspective there is a wait time when you when a family based petition is filed and that wait time is further expanded when you're sitting in a waiting for a visa so for instance if you are file if you're a legal resident filing for your adult child the wait time for that adult child is roughly nine years if you're a u.s. citizen filing for a sibling the wait time is roughly thirteen years for them to get
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a visa and that time is even longer if you're from china india or the philippines and so and mexico scuse me and that's because those countries are disproportionately overrepresented in the immigrant pool and for some of them that wait time pushes that twenty years so it's almost laughable when folks. talk about this chime chain migration idea where it's a domino effect where you come in and then within two years your whole family is here it just simply doesn't happen that way there's a very narrow group of folks that can apply for a visa and have it immediately available to them everyone else has to wait in line . the wait times you took the words right off of this tweet from e.j. thinking the same thing he said there are lots of misconceptions about so-called chain migration one is after mexico the next four countries with the longest visa wait list due to family based immigration are the belittling india and china so a large part he says attacks against family based immigration are attacks against
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american families so one misconception in his view richard what is something else you think people don't realize about this so-called chain migration. you know i think when i think about it when the president was running he talked about make america great again everyone i think began to see what he really meant was to make america wait again there's no sure there's no surer path to making america right again or wider than limiting family preference visas this is an avalanche of people coming over the border the long wait times there are different wait times depending on the relationship there wait times depending on the age of the person if there are minors or there are adults there are also different wait times a pending on the assets that the person has in the foreign country or how skilled they are the reality is though for example my my grandmother is here now
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and she had to go through a liver. not a liver transplant but a transfusion and this procedure is not available in guyana and this is the only country that she was able to do it show i'm sure here with us now because of this these are these are the kinds of things that only separate families but permanently you know affects the livelihoods of people all around the world richard i want to bring that money ana and malcolm back into the conversation so we can see all of you here also that will stiffen thoughts of immigration status. but do you see a connection between your experience that you're having right now in the united states sanjana. i sorry no i mean i definitely do because i think we all have that common feeling of you know we love this country we love the people we want to be a part of it we consider ourselves a part of it and that at the same time be completely rejected by the majority of the nation will half of the nation especially when as richard was saying about
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making america white again and especially being minorities. and donald trump recent comments about. african nations and the nations he actually does want immigrants from and the nation being. it's a little awkward and it's very sad and really troubling specially well for me. so i wanted to share this tweet two tweets from her and she kind of wraps it up in this way she says the fear generated by legislation among immigrants is felt in many ways immigrant families are separated across borders without work permits or employment options dwindle their access to education is limited the fear caused by not knowing where you might work or live is what causes that distress. can you relate to this feeling at all and what does that look like in your own life that distrusts with how are you coping with it. you know this is really you know if you
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wish and we hope you know we have to turn all these negative into a we need to try to go or in talk to all lawmakers to make sure we know the i think we're going to change some people thinking but we know there. are great people here in the united states and i'm sure they thinking before and so we need to work with them with those people they think indifference is there a different staying. in the way that the administration is fighting immigration and how the american people think about american immigration i think it depends on where you live the demographics of whatever region you reside in we happen to live in a very diverse in the d.m.v. the d.c. maryland virginia area and here i think over all the perception and the appreciation of immigrants in the in the general fabric of the community is very
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much appreciated but if you listen to the rhetoric on the news you'll get a completely different perspectives based on either what people are exposed to or what they choose to listen to through the news and oftentimes realities are not in sync with perception here is what one person online is doing about that this is c.n.n. on twitter who says as a family we're looking at lawyers educating ourselves on how they can change their status this is specifically about t.p.s. to some other form of residency though of course it might up apply to others as well she says personally i'm responding by getting involved in the movement we need to make noise. richard mary on the is that something that you agree with. but there really we need to make noise we need to be all together we need all to be joined this campaign we need to spread the word and we need to call to all the law makers to all hell do you know their families not only are they already been
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released and these countries yes are just as i think we are also to build our alliances you know the black community is a target for this administration the muslim community is a target for this administration we have powerful centers of influence of political influence of our across this country and communities of color really have to band together and this is a moment under this president for minority communities to really work together because this isn't just immigration this isn't just a black issue this isn't just a muslim issue this is something a really goes to the fabric of what we believe america is. i. agree with sorry i just completely agree richard think is it turning water into human rights issue this is going way beyond race and we really need to get together and if you really want to make something work it can't just be darker people are talking about that we have friends i mean i know i actually friends and other people i have friends that know about our situations like that they are i mean
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again out and talking going out there you know and the community to get involved ok maliana magro richard and lloyd i thank you so much for being part of this conversation of course it will continue online to slash tag a.j. strength and so watching everybody. on the fringes of some of those mega city. mega slum is perched on stilts. the floor. of the cities are beginning to develop even for terry
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