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suffered what's thought to be the world's third worst nuclear accident that was covered up until the one nine hundred eighty s. vast areas of land were contaminated including. a city built from i.x. workers and so secret it was left off maps activist nadezhda his father and grandmother died of cancer as did many others she campaigned for the truth about the contamination and compensation for residents but fled to paris after she was accused of being a traitor so what's life like in a so called closed city why do people still live in a circus and what dangers remain we find out as in the days that could tip over talks to al-jazeera. nadezhda could be part of the thanks so much for talking to al-jazeera growing up when did you realize that you were living in
a special place a so-called secret city. and maybe i understood it when i was. school go on the river travelling visit a group of schoolchildren in the prime there came in the south and we were prevented by the leader of our group that if somebody arrived and asked us where you from we should tell it to be a from chalabi and then the there was one situation in airport one woman came and she asked me all kids where you go in your travel and we say yes and she asked us where you're from and they say we are from chile obviously we're ready for this and she told oh i'm also from chile others from which school you are and you know that i remember this terrible feeling of fear that our teacher prevented other spies is the wrong what i should tell if i feel something wrong i will be arrested
and in this moment maybe i began to think that sound feeling special in our place but i didn't know what exactly because even school we rolled the letters about where you for all where where your parents are working i always knew that my mother she's a doctor and my father is the engineer but the question was you are do what your father is doing during your job i ask it and he told me i make it pay powerful candies and did he ever tell you what he was really doing and rally t. he was working in the representation plant. which we name him on asa like here plan to congress thirty five i have never shook at his him about his job because he died when i was twelve and he was ill by very serious cancer cancer from. eighty three eighty five.
in this moment of course i have never new sound i have never known south in a bald job. of course i hear it something from my mother like a radiation song from the influence but i did not pay attention for this well for decades the outside world mostly didn't know what happened in my act back in one thousand nine hundred fifty seven the explosion that occurred tell us about what actually happened and what effect that did have on the local population the local environment my jaco was built like answer for the american nuclear bombs to produce the plutonium for soviet bomb and when they began to produce plutonium they produced many types of nuclear waste and they dampen these nuclear waste high level nuclear waste inside the river which is situated there it's a cherry where they did during three years finally they understood that it's very
dangerous because population became to be dyed to became to have make a mirror and began to gave a bit of children's with the defects and they stopped and they began to keep high level nuclear waste in underground towns and exactly this underground towns exploded twenty nine september nineteenth fifty seven twenty million curie exploded in atmosphere and the area twenty four thousand square kilometers will continue natives are there explosion was a big but at the same moment people who were working in the results go in this more when they did nothing that something serious happened because it was the first years and there were many explosions for soil to organize underground space for reactors. the people who are in the villages which are situated
around those also they were not informed they knew that something secret the build there they were created and the villages were destroyed we lost twenty five villages after this accident situation and the area like i already told twenty three thousand square kilometers will contaminate it by the genuine date us today that two hundred seventy two thousand people are dated after this accident. what convinced you that the accident and the plant were actually killing people living in the local area because officially there's been no study there are no real figures about the numbers of people who've died in the surrounding areas compared to other parts of russia have that now of course after exit in this situation was a terrible and they must of people there have a radiation disease which arrived to meet the after quantum in
a shell and it was visible it was not like a long time effect it was an immediate effect so all the scientists who and the doctors who are working in this moment they saw this consequences for this reason they took a decision to ever create people from this their natural zone after this situation there are created institutes of each which began to study health of population this institute is situated and should our bills and another institute which studies their health of population off was also is situated in the results from this more when they began to make their scientifical study of course if we had them drawls if they didn't they have never organized it because your own father died of cancer but even on his death difficult they didn't use that word did they know in the soviet time all information about the accident her secret even people
who were working in the plant in this moment like liquidators they signed special paper to keep it secret so why then do you think so many people through the decades have decided to stay in school keeps the bag given that they must know the health risks of being in that area you know the people of close that city it is a special civilization maybe we can tell sol because the clause the city of they were built in the empty place. in the forest and the people who built it they specially brought for create this city create this production and they keep secret keep ideology and grow all the new generation to continue their job to defend our motherland and people in had a very high standard of quality of life didn't they they had good education good
health care good food yeah you're on soviet try we were like your state inside the state we always were on the leadership of the moscow. group the. quality of life and it was a big contradiction with the people who believe in iran and on the quantum unaided area because they are they were really poor become the major in the clause that sits it's like air like a bottle of glass reason roof and where is the picture around so people who are inside they see the picture which is their own and the government just open the open the this bottle and give you their food and then closed so we are a little bit is a late society and even then the information about all can diminish and we all pound it was ninety. eight nine hundred eighty nine
in this small amount. this special propaganda is right for us for people close a city like here of course of the real some accident but it was not so terrible like the people around asked try to imagine and of course they're evil but they are evil because they made a marriage between their family inside the families with a close relative so they were blaming inbreeding and people having alcohol problems that's why i said yeah exactly you set up an organization to try and help people living in. how do people respond to you and what were you trying to do to help them i was in the conference environment conference in one thousand nine hundred nine and the process and from the environmental department of our nuclear city made the report for me it was like a shoulder because he told the proof and he was official from our city and he was
telling the about quantum in nation after teacher dumping and he told about contamination off the xor them and also he was talking about current contamination because there is a current contamination and i was shocked and i write and ask you why you did not tell why you does not delve is the story in our city he told me nobody in our closed city does need this information people prefer do not know in this moment you know that it was like a milestone for me all the possible make right place in my head and i have this i have decided to create enjoy and defend the people in the thousands. that human rights public department. we began to go quite a professional n.g.o.s to defend rights of people who suffered from my accidents and for people who live in the closet secure for russia but there were attempts to
effectively silence you to intimidate you to believe you tell us what happened for . first moment. my yok try to control us for example our first program which was a defense of pregnant women rights. the public relations option arrived to. check us is a retail something for pregnant women the baltics in the ninety five to seven it was like a little bit paranoid of all their ammo and two files and for the fees be they forbidden our fills the home so so logical research because it was my dream to make a sociological research of mentality of people close a city into falzon eight it was a story of. intimidation for on payment taxes that they had no answer that our charitable money it's profitable we should pay taxes for this money and it was
a long time prot service to hear us we visit all fees be people took in their god two children god and his a visit of somebody for my maternal to clean you can i go there they arrested all we called but finally be wronged in the court and we were checked many times but this last story is a record nation asked like you for rain the agent ensure we didn't survive it. i think that beginning of last story if this is a case it's much more terrible case for me because i identified the diff off six old go in little village horrible car which was born in two thousand and five which died in two thousand and eleven from the cancer off lever and this cancer will officially connected with the influence of radiation on hugh grant market and it was a situation very cynical because grandmother who was liquidator she's
a life of the market is a life and the little girl died and i tried to receive the compensation of unpicking era damage for mom and we applied to visit application in local court but we were rejected and called to told us that in ninety fifty seven there was not legislation about unpick you need them and and so today this mother can't to receive this compensation and it was very loud in our region and when we many people called me and exactly this story was the base for the recognition asked all i care for a new agent because of the court and also that it was political activity to criticize the judgment of local court to to try to change policy or for russian federation in direction of victim of my yako then the. original t.v.
show on the feel my new clear heart of russia the head of. that major of our city who was the head of local fees be told that i destroyed to nuclear shills of russia tried to create carlson nuclear calls a city and call that reactor for me it was from one side it was a little bit funny because i knew that i didn't do it but at the same moment it was a really serious because houston. when my ever cape town the federation of human rights advised me to leave i did it because you know that activity again the. security of russian federation it's a crime a state reason. punished man it's to mean two years of prison so you came to paris with your children how difficult
was it for you to leave russia to leave us i had a true feelings filled feeling was i felt myself like a traitor of people because you know all that many people in region they connected with me their hopes on justice even in any cases we did not receive the rules alt's sometimes the fight for your rights it's also results it's like a fight for justice against unjustice and this is a moment i feel myself. i own laws the rules i feel that i was absolutely. outside a situation. like i lost the connection because my people. it was a really difficult even when i arrived in paris i refused to ask a political refugee during three months because i rolled many placation to russian
prosecutor to. phase b. about the why the channel for russia. russia twenty four accused my organisation in the spill not do you have the evidence as all these do you can you give me some film which prove it and i hope maybe if i receive the good answer i can beg for me of course the paris was not there is like for people who are arrived here for another goals for me towards the city or for example my act now is used to reprocess nuclear waste not just from russia though from other countries including i think norway and germany. do you think that mark is capable of handling the amount of waste that is being sent now and is it being planned to be sent there in the future i think that my arc is not comparable to reprocess nuclear waste because our reports say so of nuclear waste is
a very complicated technology and like a final point my yard crecy of the many many. types of nuclear waste it's a high level nuclear waste middle level nuclear waste and low level nuclear waste and until today my yacht continue to dump a different type of waste in different nature will resume watts reach just to change this state used yesterday it was a natural lake today it's a technical reason why ours but it just pay a park who changes state years and the problem is today that my yard can't to hobble by this and then you can always continue to damp to go to the open ri where around to each we have four villages visit population five thousand
people one of those recent incidents there were reports of a radioactive cloud went there floating over europe russia denied that it had indeed come from that particular area around us ask around nyack what do you believe i suppose that it could be over in the of the terrific ation of reprocessing plants what they're make in this all in the they mix the glass the is a nuclear high level nuclear waste. you don't understand what this happened exactly you just know the truth then you should be keeping this came nearer and also there was a field which normally should take they must to change a trigger and maybe soften happened in this. if we analyze the story of all my accidents from nine hundred forty nine into two thousand and seven. this accidents will never recognize it by my jacket
it's always the society who press them or prosecutor i think in this situation they will be continue to know because my yard it's not only local enterprises it's a part of the global process to receive. markets of nuclear waste and now in the region and even a level of. contrary they tell about the who are from our call corps and from our name enemies organize and these provinces because. you know it's always much more easy try to find any me. instead told me to yourself guilty should countries that send their nuclear waste
to moksha they bear some responsibility for what happens to it then because of course russia's being peddled money to take this waste and reprocess it mine my acct. i was sure that the russian takes money i think the nuclear departments restart them takes money. i think that foreign companies should not send their nuclear waste in russia in my jacket exactly first of all because the air are really quantum in nature there and the population suffered continue to suffer today and i think there is a sound feel like a game because. the commands she gives for my yok right to make are a process because usually when they're my yok want to receive. a contract with different contrie is then known that you know that this situation is really guta.
we stopped down nuclear waste in the nature of the reserve waters and the teacher river and we improve the air and improve the situation but like a person who a lawyer or people who still sofie i can construct a that it's not true of for example if you go to their fishel site of my yuck you can see the official report that my dad stopped to dump nuclear waste in the end of sixteen years but why they did not publish the judgment of chalabi court that the former director of my yuck. accused the in quantum in nation of teacher eva into falzon sicced its a prosecutor who made the expertize and who can state that in two thousand five
hundred sixty tons of nuclear waste inside the teacher eva and the water in teacher was a real uclear waste and the population continued to leave there they don't want to publish that information and i think when they receive the documents to. have a capacity to make this international contract they wire and there is no outside international jurisdiction is there of what happens at my ak is there anybody monitoring what takes place there. you know that before the situation this route then you know i really believe that somebody off outside like international agency of the mccann's you. control this situation but now i see no now i think no because you know that i am in this direction during twenty years and i had no any contact with
a person of international edge and see and even for example we had a meeting during corman calls for for example during climate change conference and i tried to make a question about this always still or not not my yup it's a military problem of past even no i. believe in two years in france and i have a possibility to taunt the people in the national level and i sound some letters for some people in international edge and say i receive this conduct and know any ounce of i don't know maybe they're afraid me. so how worried are you that they could be another serious accident at my ak. you know every every day when i go to sleep i think about my yard my dear god save my yard because part of it creeps are really all the and also on the commercial interests is much more
higher than the interest of nuclear safety and you close security i think can leave office and you nuclear accident and a final thought do you still hope to return home do you want to go back to russia would you ever go back to. yes i would like to back in russia i would like to back in my city in my region because first of all i would like to be connected with the local people i should see the situation by my own eyes and also i would like to continue my job to defense people to improve the law and. i miss my your role i miss my city even it's a nuclear hell and they should propose a thank you to ground zero and to a i to a. on
just about the billion. dollars of debt it's not just about the banks it's not just about the governments it's about real people. the scene for us where they're online what is american sign in yemen that peace is always possible but it never happens not because the situation is complicated but because no one cares or if you join us on set there are people that that are choosing between buying medication and eating base is a dialogue i want to get in one more comment because this is someone who is an activist and has posted a story join the global conversation at this time on al-jazeera. hello i'm barbara starr in london these are the top stories on al-jazeera yemen's government has accused the southern set.