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tv   Inside Story 2018 Ep 272  Al Jazeera  September 30, 2018 3:32am-4:01am +03

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to leave because of terrorism and the unilateral economic measures the targeted daily lives on their livelihoods tesla c.e.o. ilan musk in the u.s. securities and exchange commission have reached a settlement over fraud charges under the deal mask will remain c.e.o. pay a twenty million dollars fine and step down as chairman of the company the s.e.c. also impose a twenty million dollars fine on tesla musk is accused of misleading investors after tweeting that his secured funding to take the electric car maker private last month and egypt has sentenced a female activists teachers two years in jail for a video she posted on social media earlier this year friday complained online about the egyptian government's failure to protect women against sexual harassment those are the headlines on al-jazeera coming up next it's inside story to stay with us.
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the united states pushes forward its ambitious project of a pan arab alliance against iran but there are deep divisions brought on by the gulf crisis so can washington's desire to rope in israel along with the arab states against a common enemy actually succeed and what does it mean for president trump's middle east peace plan this is inside stuart. welcome to the program today with me peter w. washington has begun putting together a plan to forge and iran alliance with the arab countries now the u.s. secretary of state mike pompei has met foreign ministers of the gulf cooperation
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council states and egypt and jordan they discuss the perceived threats posed by iran to peace and stability across the middle east however the g.c.c. is of course a house divided once the blockade imposed on by some of its neighbors lifted before the u.s. security plan can be considered credible husham. discussion today from new york. a gathering of gold fry vel's. this is the first time qatar's foreign minister has come face to face with his counterparts from saudi arabia the u.a.e. and egypt since the four countries imposed a land sea and blockade on qatar in july last year. no handshakes no smiles and no news conference at the end of the meeting that lasted
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almost one hour two days ago saudi foreign minister. accused qatar of financing extremism adding that his country will be ok even if the crisis goes on for another fifty years but that can wait also but we have to address the challenges in our region first before we talk we talk about just working like this diplomacy is communication is engaging and this is why did you got to go because i said i was doing was going to ask you a question thank you very much but the war of words between gulf rivals but the united states of america in a difficult position the trump administration is scrambling to put together a regional alliance of countries against iran which she sees as a growing threat in the middle east during the past few days the u.s. has ramped up its rhetoric describing to her as the world's leading sponsor of
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terrorism as far as america is going is a sions dishonest by iran and saudi officials blame iran for destabilizing the whole region and the whole how can one do a month on saudi arabia believes that in order to achieve peace and stability in the middle east what is needed is to deter iran in its subversive policies this is sectarianism and interference in the internal affairs of the region such aggressive conduct constitutes a glaring breach of all international laws and treaties with. the u.s. wants to address major challenges in the middle east including ice in wars in yemen and syria instability in iraq and what it sees as iran's growing into ones in the region but its chances of building a united front remain slim as long as the g.c.c. quizes considers i should like what i just hear a new york. ok let's get going let's bring in our panelists today on inside story from new york my jobs where the
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director of the gulf study center at castle university in tehran moustapha washington journalist and political commentator and from washington hillary mann leverett former u.s. state department official and now c.e.o. of the political risk consultancy strategies welcome to you all coming to you first what's the point of this i think it's important to put this in a context this is not the first time that the united states tries to have sort of alliances of coalition against iran this was the history the deal with iran and always there was a kind that you know the regional players should play a role on isolation and isolating iran. goes over the north of there not to say this was the case and again it's iraq since nine hundred ninety one what is new and this. is that this comes up from the position of the clematis within the department of state who believes that it is enough to be away. from the reality that the
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united states does need its own alliances in the region and they need to see more involvement. from within the region with it afoot to isolate iran for this season i see that the administration this is an attempt from the bottom to the state to be active and in isolating iran and make sure that most of the players within the region are on board taken into consideration the fact that. you know there is sort of. as you know there is the gulf dispute the does affect the whole thing and it to me it basically controlled the removal of the not the state and the possibility to see success of all of this efforts mustapha in tehran there have been various iterations of something not dissimilar to this didn't get off the ground before why should or could it succeed this time. well as
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a matter of fact mccall that was right this is not the first time actually there been similar moves made by. you know solve the arabia in the region in order to establish a front against iran under various names like the recent antiterrorism or counterterrorism efforts but they have all remained fueled all in all these the united states has been behind a saudi arabia but they have never achieved any fruit or any goal any objective in that but this time apparently the united states is tired of seeing the soul of these failing their exams and in that dancing their original design is now they have come to take the matters into their own hands you know originally with regard to iran in recent years the saudis were given the role by the u.s. in their original resign design or two of you know subdue all pvc member states establish an alliance against iran and then widen this such an alliance to the arab
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world but in their first a step or when they came forward to subdue can't tower with regard to its winning aces that it had with regard to its influential tie. with muslim brotherhood with hamas in the palestinian issue the militants in syria especially in eastern guta as well as the ties with iran the saudis failed after more than a year or two are out nearly two years of living season to attack and eventually actually what the saudis did was iran in iran's favor when they started meddling in syria syria called for iran to help and iran's influence grew when they laid siege on khattab saw iran as its risk you path in the two countries iran and qatar saw a new chapter in their cooperation and ties so when they failed in all these attempts of the united states seems to be intolerant and now they if they are
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taking matters into their own hands probably but of course that that's why probably the foreign ministers of our coal way and omani in the recent meeting in new york of gave a positive you know response when they called iran it's red and stress than you know of the fusing iran's influence in power or containing iran's influence and power in the region most often left and i just want to know what you've just been saying that's one of the oil that is within iraq that central point to hillary mann leverett in washington hillary obviously the u.s. sees iran as a threat for u.s. strategic interests in the region and also u.s. security in terms of the g.c.c. but very clearly as well in terms of israel are those worries accurate and justifiable well i think it's important to put that into a strategic context today it's iran today it's the islamic republic of iran that
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sits in the in the middle east this region that the united states has since world war two designated as vital to american national security interests because of the oil that. generates the oil that not only it sends to consent of the united states but that it sends to europe and asia whoever has decisive strategic influence if not control over the oil not only has decisive strategic influence and control in the middle east but really around the world so this is an overriding strategic interest for the united states regardless of it's a democratic or republican administration whether it was true it's trying today or even had been hillary clinton and it's also true regardless of whether it's the islamic republic of iran today or of it was another independent power the key issue here is independent military power especially independent arab or muslim powers so today it's an independent muslim power in the islamic republic of iran that is strong and can defy the united states as it continues to try to strengthen
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a highly militarized pro-american political and security order but in prior decades it was saddam hussein's iraq that stood at the precipice of strong independent military power in the middle east and before that it was government nasr egypt that challenge the united states so this is not new in terms of the regional dynamics and it's not new in terms of the dynamics in washington but it's also important to keep in mind that today it's critically important for the united states as as policymakers see it here in washington this is not my personal opinion to keep the islamic republic of iran itself weak divided and sapped of its energies keeping it constantly entangled in military conflict and to pair that with emboldening israel and having countries that might that would challenge iran to be tied to an alliance that includes israel because once you're in an alliance in the arab and muslim world with israel there's really no turning back because your populations don't
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support that so the only way that you as a government can get support to continue to be part of that alliance is to stay aligned with the united states it's much worse for policymakers here in washington those two goals are very important to have together ok much of you want to come in the. yeah i think there's an important or significant issue here related to what they're not doing previously the united states used to go to the region with sort of coalition with european peons european nation as a whole with european union of human basic in order many even previously against iran to use european used to be on board this is the first time where the united states goes to the region so to talk to have this coalition as you know. and two weeks ago the three european countries germany u.k. and to france you know addition to. china and russia they are working on a creating
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a legal entity so they can avoid dissension against iran so there is sort of you know a new dynamic as well which which i think puts pressure on the americans to work with the regional players more comparing with the past as i mentioned europeans used to be on board this is the this is a various times american is a playing sport and they need more support from within the region. well the proposed security arrangements would be structured on the lines of nato that's what it's being called an arab nato it's reported the u.s. would expect the gulf nations to foot the bill those same countries would be expected to back a local groups against rebels supported by iran in syria yemen and also inside iraq the middle east a teaching alliance messa with police three strategic waterways the gulf a full moons. and the suez canal critical routes for global oil and trade it's hoped that military cooperation would pave the way to restoring diplomatic ties
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between cata and the blockading states washington is also hopeful of including israel in any deal as hillary was mentioning there and if israel's relations militarily improve with the arab countries then diplomatically conditions would be better to push for the so-called deal of the century for peace in the middle east hillary can i just put that one back to you why is there this need to simplify it in a region that can never be simplified why i call it the arab nature because you know if you look at countries like oman and kuwait they've had good relationships granted spasmodically with with whoever is in power in tehran so why is this dynamic to put it in a box and call it something i think that really is a political dynamic here in washington that it's easier for politicians here to be able to sell it domestically as the united states having this a lot this arab alliance that something easier to sell here i don't think it has
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real strategic meaning and you can see that in terms of how the department of defense handles it and it's interesting to see how the department of defense is approaching this entire this entire issue just as you had secretary of state pompei a meeting with the foreign ministers of the g.c.c. states jordan egypt you had secretary of defense mattis here in washington in fact . calling for or in fact putting him in process. to withdraw or to draw down the patriot anti-missile patriot batteries in bahrain and kuwait so there's a real question about whether the us military is involved i think it's much more of a political dynamic and one that president trump is pushing both to show that he is in control in the middle east before the november midterm elections here and as he goes into his two thousand and twenty reelection campaign that he has a firm anti iran pro israel strategy with these arab countries generically defying
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because he doesn't really care about any of them individually to give him a political a political push here in the united states in his domestic politics mustapha is there a risk as far as the leadership where you are is concerned and could it possibly be this if you try to codify the relationship between disparate countries diff disparate religions where they are with those countries led by reckless leaders quotes i'm using the word advisedly is there a risk here that you make reckless leaders more reckless more dangerous if you will all all to be honest with you i doubt if any of these arab nations would take a hostile move against iran unless for the kind of terrorist attack with that we saw last week there was a sponsored according at least according to iranian officials it was a sponsored by the saudis the u.a.e. and the united states that's the kind of cooperation that the they've been running
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you know in an area of military the united states is trying to advance its regional design are now at the expense of the regional states the arab states i doubt if there would be any meaningful or all influential in significant military move against iran but in area of economy as well as security in. politics there will be moves and there have been many moves underway in the last at least two years just of for example the united states use the billions of dollars of some of the op ed for the hollers in order to meddle with iran's foreign currency market in the u.a.e. iran has announced that it wants to move its foreign currency market to a number of countries first and foremost to qatar and china now as you see as far as of the saudis were supposed to leave this of quad lieschen or nato or whatever
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it is against iran the catteries were never subdued and the they had relations improved but now that the us has picked up their role in order to coordinate the first because it's a major war powered the categories as well as coal weight in oman they have at least of of around their of somehow of their variable support for this. in new york is there potentially a huge negative a quid pro quo if you will because if you tether certain arab countries to this u.s. administration would certain arab countries then feel that they have an umbilical cord that could in theory pull the u.s. military into very live conflicts so you could see a situation where external players say in the three and a half year ugly ugly war in yemen they might then bring to bear an expectation that the u.s. should have military people on the ground engaging in the conflict and them to
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think so when it comes to the issue of iran i think this administration. according to what i know is more focused on. putting more pressure on iran the issue the issue of. you know to change was will there's been. discussed in the past and i think this administration. may be. acting as they are moving toward the gym change especially in the membrane that. john bolton is very close to the president but there are there are two main things we have to keep in mind in this context the first one is that as i mentioned the united states now is actually playing solo against iran not as it used to be and i think that that will push that'll put more pressure on the administration to think
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or to come down to one hundred before moving to the any kind of military action or regime change the second issue i think there is also doubts about the solidarity and the unity within the region against iran i think even the talk about the nature . it doesn't sound that you know they believe this can be a reality they need to do a lot before getting to the point where actually they have all of those countries on board keep in mind that every of every one of these countries has its on measures. you look at the g.c.c. and this is the severe kind it's impact on reach all countries look at situation in jordan and egypt so there are you know i think obstacles which will complicate any kind of further. i would say been of benefit to the not to say from all of this however again we have to keep in mind that the
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administration and sort of this administration now is trying to push things and i think the secretary of the state from pale is getting the message from the white house they have to be more active ok the pressure on iran and that is what they are doing now i think in this context we have to see more action similar to this and putting a lot of pressure on the countries so they can work. good on iran new to future especially with a new sanctions will come in next month understood go hillary you've already touched on this point can we just flesh this out a little bit if if this is a go in six months or you say in the arab states say yes we are on board they say yes we will fund it israel then has to be introduced into the big family relationship as some sort of associate member as apopka that therefore then surely changes the mood music across the entire region which is a plus but then an israeli prime minister would presumably be pressured to deliver
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on something that no israeli prime minister is ever going to deliver all well and i think you saw the prelude to that this week in new york on the sidelines of the u.n. general assembly where this extreme pro israel group here in washington called ironically the foundation for the defense of democracies called an anti iran summit that included the foreign minister of saudi arabia the ambassadors of bahrain and the united arab emirates and the head of the israeli mossad together with the u.s. secretary of state pompei o n and national security advisor john bolton so they've given you this prelude this week of how these countries could work together how they can appear on the same podium how they have similar interests but i wanted to also flag an important point that may be counter-intuitive i think by secretary of state pompei all calling together the g.c.c. states foreign ministers the egyptian and jordanian foreign minister it was
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a message to saudi arabia that the united states is no longer so enamored with the saudi foreign policy and the what the what the saudis have done for the united states because it really forced the saudis to accept a lot to sit at the same table as the three foreign minister who has been saying for over a year that there is no way that the saudis could ever accept really anything about . the current situation and doha so it was a very important symbolic. subordination of the saudis very very public symbolic subordination and i think what you see happening is you know. the u.s. government trying to really weaken any are we control more of what the saudis do and to get them ready to go even more publicly more often ok the israelis and whether that in the end leads to any concession from the israelis there may be some who hope for that but there would be absolutely no basis in u.s.
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foreign policy history to conclude that understood very last briefing will point to my chips where he in new york if the arab nato actually happens mr trump has got to be seen surely within that context in that framework as an honest broker of peace in the middle east nobody sees him as that across the region not really not genuinely so how does he square that and how does he pay attention to individual needs and individual demands the kind of demands and the realisation of those demands that hillary was touching on ten minutes ago i think the whole the whole. attempt to have this need to. you know has strewn link with the trump. personally and is administration to put something on the record before they move to the second second the presidency i think he is he's keen to have some achievement in foreign policy now there is the deal of the century is not moving as they wish
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now that is it seems to them that's it is it hard to achieve to say that is there and i don't need to but in reality in reality you know this region is very complicated and in the since one nine hundred ninety three with the whole debate about peace a process basically iran all of these efforts actually has failed to achieve anything and this not forget the. united state they wanted they wanted you know out of the out of country and regional players when they are angry at a club when did decided to go to the deal with iran they fought a good bit on that on and i don't see that agent that's a member that the two thousand and sixteen done without any consultation with any of those countries and they once did decided to go with european union to sign that so i think some of these is in the mind of countries and they remember how they write this that knows them alone two thousand and fifteen felicity's and i think this is an attempt to come not sure we'll need to have
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a serious impact on the region and a real need to have a serious fruitful results to trump himself as well guys there are times i wish this program was an hour long not such a minutes long today was one of those days thank you so much for your contribution today here on inside story you've been listening to my chips will be mustapha last session and hillary mann leverett thank you to you two for your company to check out the website you can watch the program again click on the icon al jazeera dot com you can also talk to us via facebook that's facebook dot com forward slash a.j. inside story or talk to us on twitter at a.j. inside story i'm at pizza topping one for me and the team here in doha thanks for watching i will do it all again tomorrow.
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