tv Inside Story 2018 Ep 347 Al Jazeera December 13, 2018 8:32pm-9:01pm +03
undocumented immigrants you have fundamental rights and that they have to be applied in practice and that's actually through ensuring things such as a firewall which is a separation between immigration enforcement and access the services and so that they can safely report for you know if this is possibly the need to reconcile the differences between those who offer to put out saying this is not good for them and those who seem to be committed to move forward with an international platform that would tackle all the issues related to migration and refugees i think it is of course it is because this is at the end of the day a voluntary agreement it's a voluntary framework and the point is that it doesn't undermine it doesn't tie doesn't interfere with the sovereignty of nation states when it comes to migration and that's terribly important because however big you are however small you are you want to be you want to be able to have some control over who's coming in and out of your country i want to be sure that it's safe so over time as this kind of works its way through and us politics change around the world surely some people will
come back and maybe some some will leave with the important point is that the overwhelming majority of the world's countries have decided that there is now rushnell space to discuss migration that's the important thing because in the absence of this dream and we were left to the kind of rather wild west extremes of the far left social media on the far right and all the fake news that's thrown into that mix which tended to run to the agenda now we've had a kind of sit down and they've teased out many of them very intractable issues around migration they're not easy as i'm sure the minister can attest migration affects every country and every community is deeply concerned about it so finding a framework within which you can do that is extremely helpful. the fuck up children in africa you say that you are united as a continent about about the issue of migration and refugees but you know the criticism. advanced against the continent is basically its political leadership has been disconnected from reality and it is to blame for the. situation there had it
not been for the poor governance poverty viciously attack people wouldn't ever have thought about moving elsewhere well well well that could be part of the reason many people would front we must also realize that there are other factors now that. getting movement of the people. change for example you know and so these are new factors so even when you want to apportion blame. reasons such as what he does it's not everywhere and i think progress has been made on the continent and ensuring that democracy becomes a way of people to choose. leadership in but as you member states as well as in sub regions of the african continent of course in the past we cannot avoid acknowledging that the challenges which.
triggered movements forced movements of people running away from the kind of places called homes in set for some twenty states for peace and these. challenges we we have lived with over some time and i think there is also realisation. among is the leadership of the continent to see it's time we stabilized the continent and made sure that our people are able to benefit from the natural capital that this continent is in dog with and that can only be achieved when we were stability and people able to participate together and realizing the potential of their member states michel. an undocumented migrant who is watching us who's stranded in the middle of nowhere and wants to
understand how this is going to positively affect his life what a child who has been arrested or detained what his family was trying to cross into from mexico to the u.s. what some of his family is trying to cross from syria turkey all the way towards europe is this deal providing some safeties and guarantees for them not to be arrested or mistreated in the future it's an excellent question and that's the one that we will have to work out through the implementation and the devil lies in the details exactly so basically while this offers a framework the next step is how countries are going to implement it and that will be the biggest challenge so for example one of the objectives talks about providing alternatives to the tension working with civil society to actually development and to develop them so how will those also be carried out in practice governments will have to work with civil society to actually develop them so that children won't be
detained and that's actually one of the objective is to work towards ending the detention of children. it also works at providing safe passages for migrants to be able to move regularly but this will also have to be developed and the other point that i also want to mention is the cities which levels of government need to also be involved besides the national level local and regional authorities play a key role and especially cities cities is actually where many of the migrants are also gaining access to services and justice is currently. i'm back earlier with how does a lot of the whole is the had the migration and border control of the world community seal the interior and i asked him about the significance of the deal and what it means for morocco but also for africa. migration is a human matter it's not a problem it's not a mathematical equation it will happen anyway either we do. it in a safe regular and orderly manner or it's going to be done by the traficant and
criminal groups so it's an opportunity for everybody to work in the same direction so that we can have. so that we can make migration. a choice not a constraint or an obligation for migrants local has always been a transit point for thousands of migrants from sub-saharan africa if europe decides one day because we see the past and the far right and the populous governments in the in europe gaining control as they decide one day to build towards. what would be the next step for morocco morocco has built a great deal of expertise because miracle was. of country of origin country of transit and country of this to nation so we have differentiated our strategies. depending on what kind of migration we're talking about the last one was in twenty or twenty thousand thirteen with his majesty decided to grant the regularization for fifty thousand migrants there are enjoying our hospitality there are not they
are contributing enriching our culture it's not a matter of blocking migrants it's a matter of how we can integrate migrants within our society through the messages through the global compact offers an opportunity for the international community to work in a positive way and make migration something positive rather than something fearful leaners by the same time we have to be fair to those who are skeptical about the deal the people in europe or the united states of america who say that this is a world where you have seventy million people forced out of their homes put in four million refugees half of them under the age of eighteen why do we have to pay the price for something we haven't created our own ourselves very important question and i think it's a key question why we rightly support the rights of migrants to human rights. migrants and the rights of refugees and the rights of undocumented displaced
undocumented people and those who've been displaced we also at our peril ignore the concerns of the host communities the people living in in places where migrants are coming to it's quite easy you know in one way to be part of the of the bandwagon supporting this and we should be but if at the same time we are callous or cruel to our fellow citizens and say time that you've got a job mate you need to recompute harder we're asking for trouble and i think that's actually what we're seeing in many parts of the world we're seeing a reaction. to people who are feeling fearful for the future fearful that a migrant by take their job in fact is probably not a migrant but a robot but they might blame the migrant. unless we address those fears head on unless we reassure people that this is a journey we need to make together that the future of so many countries the well being of so many countries depends on why. we are in trouble to come pilger the african union has agreed on a vision twenty three and about the need to put an end to instability conflicts
wars and the issue of the people displaced in places like sub-saharan africa south sudan different parts of africa and your critics say basically you've failed to address those issues and then you come into the richest nations to provide you how to police a world order that you've failed to protect yourselves. there first before i respond to that i just also wants to. see those members does that i skipped you can understand you know you can't avoid. to discuss the demographic impacts of migration on their own that was doing states. you know very well that it's done to pretty plans for its people you know. very missed on the demographic. figures about a bore. it needs a plan and here all the services education and all other social.
services that acquired two need to be provided to the people by government and so the. unplanned for. arrivals influx of people for some strange ordinary and exactly you imagine especially for there was more economies. you've done your annual budgets and from noir you would this huge number of people coming with children. and that minority would occur to me to do them to be assessed in a sustained is what you suggest do you think there needs to be. a international solidarity fund for example the need there is it for compatibility in short we are saying there was missions and they're sending missions there must be something going to mint because you can do probably with the huge movements before
the people on the move if there's me to engage them and i want you to know that's also my second question about. you asking the world to do what you failed to do in terms of and put in anticipate lity conflicts and wars which were the main reason for the influx of thousands and i think we have as you know been migrants inside africa i totally agree with you but i think we have made a lot of progress in that regard and i think we have seen the country is now accepting democracy as a we all of. changing leadership and making sure that people. able to exercise their right to choose people that are able to meet their aspirations in member states and we may have challenges in a few countries of course but i think it's our desire ok one make sure that they are continent is stable and then we can explore the potential that lays on the african continent we love i think account for
a huge number of metal capital untapped reserves unprecedented definitely michel i mean this is a fast moving political landscape worldwide if you look at the map of europe there are many countries like germany spain. and many other countries where the farmer it will definitely use this particular card of the compact here in america to advance their political political agendas if they come to power they will automatically pull out of this deal. is this something that could undermine the who for the mammoth task that started in two thousand and sixteen and that. in this particular declaration. i don't think that if that does occur it will undermine the whole effort because the whole effort is still the whole of this would still be a minority of countries that in a sense would respond to i think as leonard was describing the fears of many people by truly fearing that they're left out in fear fearing that's because of the economic downturn that happens in many countries almost ten years ago they have
felt left out and so it's really important to counterpart the lism and to try to make sense of where people are coming from and to understand their fears but migrants are never escape to go for that migrants are part of the solution to many of the problems migrants actually are vibrance they enrich our societies and so that is actually what the world community is recognizing and also recognizing that this is part of our shared humanity i mean it's it is historical that we as a species have always migrated so actually the. adoption today is only one step further and acknowledging what we've always done you know we're not a nation that is you know i'm trying to get so i spoke about the strains of the issue of my wishes not putting on. country is the self like africa europe still has a massive potential follett economy it was able sometimes to handle the issue by questions like africa where come to the top bring huge political and economic process and we
see in the past which is basically the increased number of refugees in those places it is something that is alarming for the international no visual my wish and i think you if i may have taken the glass half full approach to this thing the contrast i would suggest is that africa is one of the most dynamic parts of the world if not the most and what we've seen in asia what we've seen in china over the last twenty years and in india we will be seeing over the next twenty years in africa as you add. a billion young people to the to the population as megacities grow we're already seeing it there is an enormous energy in africa there's enormous and economic growth of course there are problems undoubtedly there are conflicts conflict of course there are but the bigger picture i think is one of great optimism and one of the extraordinary things we see in west africa is the ecowas where you can travel visa free and get on the bus from one country and
travel to four or five countries without anybody stopping you and this is not creating problems this is actually creating economic positives so long may that live on long may that be an example to the rest of the world of course if you were running out of time looking forward to talking to you in the near future about the implication of this major agreement that has been reached here in the city of marrakech in. morocco stephen. michel a boy. thank you very much for being on the inside story with us and thank you to all for watching you can see the program again by visiting our website dot com for further discussion go to our facebook page that space will always last story you can also join the conversation on twitter. the whole team here. and in.
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you're watching al-jazeera courses here and also coming up. there are a lot of bad actors in the middle east we just don't need to condone any more than we have to be u.s. senators are expected to vote on whether to pull military support for the. fighting in yemen. sri lanka's top court rules unanimously that it was unconstitutional for the president to dissolve the parliament. the parliamentary party does have confidence. britain's prime minister survives a vote of no confidence but now faces the challenge of reworking her deal to leave the e.u. . we're getting reports saying that a palestinian has shot dead two people in the occupied west bank several others have been injured it happened at an illegal israeli settlement near ramallah that
comes after israeli forces killed three palestinians in separate operations the first happened in the old city of jerusalem israel says the suspect stopped two police officers two other raids took place in the occupied west bank the military says they were planned operations to find suspects linked to attacks on israelis are a force that joins us live from west jerusalem harry just talk us through what happened here. well yes this latest incident took place just a couple of hours ago the army says that an attacker came up of the main route sixty the main north south arterial route through the occupied west bank and came across a group of civilians and soldiers at a bus stop on that road just east of just northeast of ramallah just south of the illegal settlement of of got out of the car and started to shoot two people are
said to be dead according to emergency services two others injured one seriously with a head wound one whose condition is said to have been stabilized this has led to a major hunt by the israeli military for the perpetrator of this attack and that has led to a pretty extraordinary security situation now prevailing around ramallah of course the seat of the palestinian authority it is the the main political center in the occupied west bank in the absence of a palestinian state in the capital needs jerusalem and that is now been declared. a millage a closed military zone and so all of the checkpoints in and around ramallah are closed roads are entirely gridlocked on social media people are offering each other accommodation because there are very scant possibilities for people to travel and to get home while this manhunt for this attack it takes place and all of this
coming after already an extremely bloody few hours we've seen three separate incidents in which three palestinians were killed in these well two planned operations and one in response to an attack in the old city of jerusalem these things don't generally happen in a vacuum areas so would it be fair to say that the separate three separate israeli operations are under the umbrella of one bigger operation. well certainly the first two operations were very much targeting those that were suspected of carrying out two extremely high profile attacks in recent weeks one two months ago at an industrial zone in the occupied west bank called bar can like all israeli settlements in the occupied west bank it's viewed as illegal under international law there was a palestinian employee an electrician at that site who is suspected of being the perpetrator this attack in which two israelis were killed two of his coworkers
police. forces say that they tracked him down to a building in a refugee camp just outside the northern city of nablus and they went in there at about one thirty in the morning the shin bet the israeli security service in a statement said of those a gunfight that he was armed and was shot dead and in an earlier incident just north of ramallah they were targeting the suspect in a more recent attack one which took place just last sunday outside offer the same nearby settlements in which there was a drive by shooting injuring six people including a pregnant woman whose baby was then delivered in a hospital prematurely because of the injuries that that were sustained that baby died just a few hours before this operation took place that man also shot dead so certainly there is there has been. a concerted effort to try and find and if if not capture
then kill these two men and now we're seeing potentially retaliatory attacks of course not yet confirmed taking place and a worsening security situation in the west bank. harry for the moment thanks very much let's just for three seconds take you live to the swedish turn of rimbaud north of the switch capital stockholm because we are expecting a briefing any moment now from mr griffiths the u.n. special envoy to yemen the talks between the government representatives on the hoof these have spent the past week or so focusing on the country's main port data and the country's main airport as well they've taken the future and what should be done to solve the issues surrounding very specifically the city of ties off the table as those talks draw to a close it's not the end of the talks is the end of the opening session of those discussions mr griffiths this time last week when he was flanked by the swedish
foreign minister margaret wall street of course he opened up the talks and set the bar quite high because he announced that there would be a prisoner swap affecting thousands of people on both sides of this four year long war as soon as mr griffiths appears there in that auditorium and starts giving us his take on where he thinks these talks of got so far what they've achieved and what they have yet to achieve we will go back in fact that. mr griffiths there with the swedish foreign minister and antonio tatars who was if you've been watching our inside story program he was in america this time yesterday at that migration conference taking place that my colleague. was covering will stay with these pictures because obviously the three key players involved in this as in terms of being outside external players who want to see
peace being established or at least seeing the confidence building measures towards a meaningful peace process being established there that looks like we're going to hear from mr gutierrez first. i suspect there is some analysis going around the past twenty four hours saying of the discussions have gone down to the wire on wednesday night local time but they would people would always say they've gone down to the wire because you've got to lock people into the same the same space literally of the same headspace to get them on the same page to get them talking about those things as they have broken down the big issues so they can deal with one issue at a time mr griffiths is now talking let's have a listen to what he's saying. big thank you very much. thank you very much. your excellences
ladies and gentleman of your friends. i would like to thank. the foreign minister merkel twelve's term and the swedish government photos think these events and for your warm welcome. i would also like to send my special environment into the fits and these themes for their tireless efforts indies and do for many governments play the crucial role to make this happen i would like to thank the saudi led coalition the sultan its of oman and the government of kuwait for their concrete supports to make it happen and also the international community and specially the group of ambassadors to yemen that have been hearing see than to support these talks your inputs is been extremely valuable but most of all i would like to extend my sincere gratitude to you
distinguish members of the yemeni delegations sank you for coming years to these casts a better future for yemen and what you have achieved so far is an important step for the people of yemen and i think. the conflict in yemen has been going on for forty years now four devastating years of suffering for the yemeni people as we all know yemen is the world's worst humanitarian crisis more than twenty four million people see quarter of the population need some form of assistance or protection some twenty million people are food insecure. and ten million of these people do not know or they will obtain their next meal but you the parties present here today ever the possibility to change these you have the future of yemen in your hands and
we have a precious opportunity and i'm glad to see that you have made zero progress even sweeter than you have been working hard during these weeks it has yields several important results that is an achievement but there are also pending issues and we will move on with those pending issues without interruption we want to make sure that we make progress at any moment for the benefit of the yemeni people i spoke to president hadi this morning and you expressed his full support and appreciation of all the accomplishments you have made here and i sank in for these i also like to take the opportunity to thank the leadership of unsettle our and their allies for their constructive engagement with our proposals you have reached an agreement on or they the portent city which will see a move to
a really prime month of forces from the port and the since the and the establishment of a guard order it a governorate wide ceasefire that the un will play a leading role in the ports and this will facilitate humanitarian access and the floor wootz to the civilian population and it will improve the living conditions for millions of yemenis. we have also reached the move to understanding to ease the situation to ease and i believe this will lead to the opening of humanitarian corridor orders and the facilitation of the money before coming here you have already agreed on a prisoner exchange now you have agreed on a timeline and details for implementing the exchange allowing thousands i repeat thousands of yemenis to be reunited with their families and finally a very important step for the peace process you.