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the fire department complained to us that there's so many buildings also many up this building twenty years old they don't have fire exit or sprinkler system some of them do. coping with fire for the last one decade of many major incident just a month ago seventy people died in old dhaka in an explosion at a chemical where i was within residential and commercial zone many areas are residential with semi commercial areas but their office building and the highly congested situation is quite grim here that this operation is going to continue we'll report to you more as time goes. a main border crossing between gaza and israel has opened four days after being shot down the erez crossing is one of gaza's lifelines and israel closed it after a house north of tel aviv was hit by a rocket and then it's raining jets attacked hamas targets. in gaza city first as a result of that opening he could get in the report from there what's it been like since you've arrived. well kemal i can tell you that the atmosphere here
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is one of relative calm but deepening tension at the moment we know that that egyptian delegation that i've been trying to negotiate some kind of a ceasefire between how my stomach shahade and other factions here in gaza and the israeli government they are now back in gaza sources here have told us that they arrived in the past hour that they have after leaving tel aviv israel's response to bring to those groups i mentioned here in gaza that they are going to be discussing this all with them well into the night and into tomorrow now because the suggestion delegation has come back into gaza there is a sense here that that will have a calming effect on the situation that that is going to really be the best way to try to deescalate the tensions that have built that have built up this past week but at the same time because people here are really concerned that things could get
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out of control again and in the moment because you have the first year anniversary of the great march of return those protests that have been happening on a weekly basis on gaza's border with israel people are worried that there are many factors here that could light the fuse once again and that things could get out of and and that's one of the reasons why even though kids were back in school today even though areas crossing was open again even though life is seemingly back to normal in gaza people really believe that anything could go wrong at any moment and that is why at this hour at a time when perhaps you would expect them to be a little bit more hopeful there really not so much in gaza city thank you. still ahead view on al-jazeera barry is to stability the u.s. warns what could go wrong in afghanistan of a peace deal it struck with the taliban.
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and i'm pleased to say we've got some dry weather now make his way into iran i'm afraid it isn't going to last we got a fair bit of cloud which will see the eastern side of adoration ahead just pushing for pakistan afghanistan making its way towards the himalayan plateau not a little area cloud just sliding out of iraq and you can just see the eastern side of the mediterranean what's in store for the early part of next week friday sees that cloud of rain making its way across northern parts of syria snow over the mountains just a celsius the four ankara couple will get up to about twenty five degrees but increasing cloud just making its way through that area cloud that we have across afghanistan will produce them outbreaks of rain sleet and snow for a time there was a guy through saturday watch this guys come back into iran at about eighteen celsius and then we still have that system just drifting across that eastern side
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of the med pushing across into syria on saturday eventually early next week i'm afraid that will pop up and make its way to the western side of iran so that's something to watch out for meanwhile we come down into the robin peninsula funded by for the most part twenty celsius here and some of the temperatures to go on through sassed a little bit of cloud across northern parts of the gulf could produce one of two spots right. nothing.
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the top stories for you here on al-jazeera saudi arabia has released three women jailed for their human rights campaign the activists were arrested before the ban on women driving in the kingdom was lifted last june they are still awaiting a final ruling on the case a u.n. investigator is calling on riyadh to publicly open the trial of eleven suspects accused in the murder of journalist jamal khashoggi the special rapporteur on extrajudicial executions agnes kalama also said the kingdom should release the names of the defendants at least nineteen people have died in a large fire in a high rise building in bangladesh's capital firefighting teams are trying to put
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it out with the help of the navy and air force it is believed some people might still be trapped inside. the u.k. government is to present the brags that withdrawal deal agreed with the european union for another vote in the house of commons remember the deal's been rejected twice before but this version is apparently now different enough to warrant a new votes let's talk to paul brennan about those outside the houses of parliament and westminster i guess with the week or the few weeks that prime minister theresa may has had paul this might be constituted as a winner or at least a positive step forward for her. well it's quite possibly have a last chance to win the time is certainly against her but what's been announced in the last half an hour breaking news on this issue is that the leader of the house andrea let's it was announced that there will be a vote on friday at two thirty in the afternoon. the. a prime minister's breaks it
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deal but how they've got around an obstruction from the speaker of the house who said the government can just keep bringing back the same deal over and over again is that they split the two parts of the deal there was one part the withdrawal agreement essentially the divorce deal agreeing how britain can leave and then there was a second part which was the future trading relationship what the house is going to vote on on friday is just the withdrawal deal on the speaker has ruled that that's different enough to the previous attempts to make it worthwhile having another go however there is no guarantee that this will pass and these getting support for it to to actually get the prime minister get it over the line so really very much all to play for no certainty here at all although the procedure is now becoming a little bit clearer and dare i ask you paul what happens if that vote does or is success for for a third time or are we just in more uncharted territory then. well
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let me ask you first of all if the vote is successful by some frankly miracle of parliamentary arithmetic then britain will leave the european union on on may twenty second that is the new brics it date if it is not successful then the m.p.'s who on thursday sorry but wednesday try to take control of seize control of the parliamentary chamber and looked at some indicative votes didn't find one that came out that a majority but they are going to have another go on monday of next week now that will happen if the deal doesn't go through tomorrow on friday then the m.p.'s will have another chance to look at indicative votes and try and find an alternative way so these are the two options either of brecht's it by may the twenty second or more indicative votes potentially more deadlock but potentially a compromise deal comes through today friday it is then thank you paul brennan no
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westminster the pressure on algeria as president to step down continues to mount some members of the opposition say they want more than his resignation though they're demanding the removal of the entire old regime that would include the army chief the one who suggested the constitutional measure to remove the president on medical grounds in the first place his proposal had been backed up by the ruling f.l.n. party on wednesday more from national into micio. president abdelaziz bouteflika is practically left alone the mother of the presidential palace has been abandoned by the army by his own party the national liberation of france by somehow these key allies like the former prime minister ahmed here by a big trade union and more key figures are now saying it's about time to remove the president and appoint a good lesson however the opposition and the protestors are of the view that trigger triggering article one hundred two won't solve the problems of algeria and
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that one needs to be done is to find someone else they are now talking about potential candidates like former president lee i mean like. ben bait to lure to lead a transitional council to draft a new constitution and then pave the ground for a new parliamentary and presidential election now local media is talking about key businessmen isolated with the president who are barred from leaving the country it could be a sign that the army is sending reassurances to the people that while it is committed to trigger article one notion about the same time it is telling the people that anyone who has been found guilty of wrongdoing or abandoning public phones will definitely face justice in the near future but as we speak the political crisis continues to deepen and that the agreements between the army on one hand the opposition and the protesters on the other hand about a new road map for algeria if you happen to be in algeria perhaps part of the
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protests in please do help us tell the story get in touch with us on what several telegram maybe send in a video comment or some pictures from the protests the number plus one seven four five one triple one nine. now a merchant ship that was hijacked by my currents rescued has now docked in malta earlier on thursday maltese forces boarded the boat and took control there now investigating what happened the one hundred eight people on board are believed to have hijacked the ship after they realized they were going to be taken back to libya but one of the one who has more from tripoli the maltese government is expected to conduct an investigation with the migrants who are accused of hijacking get the vessel but it depends on where the crime was committed and some of those migrants could be proved innocent because the captain of the vessel according to the maltese navy stated that he and the other crew members were
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threatened by the migrants and force it to change the vessels course back to the north we understand that the migrants are afraid they could be returning to libya because the fear that they could face the same violations the usually face at the hands of people smugglers in libya. is prime minister joseph muscat we did that malta is going to follow the international rules in this respect but as for libyan coast guard libya's coast guard officials say that it's their right to capture the migrants as long as they have entered libya illegally and have sailed of libyan sure illegally we understand that some of those migrants could be proved innocent and they can apply
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for asylum in malta but some others will probably be guilty because they are accused of hijacking. the vessel. the official overseeing u.s. funded reconstruction in afghanistan has warned of risks to stability in the country even if a peace deal is agreed to the report by john comes as washington questions its role in afghanistan after the withdrawal of its fourteen thousand troops the risks apparently include the reintegrating of as many as six hundred thousand taliban fighters who may be expecting dividends from any peace agreement the report warns that economic instability could impact security if for example paychecks for armed forces and police are delayed and it says further u.s. support could be at risk if women's rights in afghanistan are not protected we spoke to in his our cut him a little bit earlier a political analyst and lecturer at our university which is afghans especially the
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youth hoping peace talks will lead to economic development if the afghan government and the international community including the taliban will take that is sponsibility to institutionalize developing the country i think that's possible but at least for five years after the taliban we all revived the national community the united states and afghan government has been storing for five years there should be a national donation. the afghan you worst is that producing over four hundred thousand youngsters from universities that can go in is not after that does that they should provide the jobs for them so yes there is that there is a mixed feelings maybe a happy future in maybe a bad future with the youngsters afghanistan are happy about the peace deal that will happen between the taliban and afghan government but the same time we're concerned about their future if there is no strategic movement and initiative board by the international community by the afghan government i think the future will be
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will look like dark so that's why it's an immediate problem we have to find a solution for that. well look at the crisis in venezuela now where getting enough food even to survive continues to be a very big problem yes it's an oil rich nation but it produces only twenty percent of its own food and with the latest u.s. oil sanctions starting to hit the economy so men are hoping that maybe community farms would help get them through the tough times ahead to raise about has a report now from caracas. difficulties are everywhere in venezuela these days the economic crisis has millions struggling but people say they're ready to fight back by producing their own food they have turned this small farming back us into an agricole logical project where they can grow fruits vegetables and even fish. he says the situation will likely deteriorate in
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the country when the new us sanctions take effect. there is an economic war against us and we tried to supply our families in the hospital in the area with this place we can feed seventy people every day. there are three families living here and with what they produce they're helping a local hospital people here say that they need to be ready for what's coming. on the people say that in this place they can produce almost everything to survive . on a limb it says there are over twenty thousand projects like this one in venezuela but that they need more government support. we need to teach people that they need to learn how to produce their own food this needs to be public policy we need to tell the government the budget that is invested in food production must be the same as the one invested in the armed forces. venezuela imports most of the food it
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consumes the us has impose new sanctions that will make it tougher for the government to sell oil and get much needed cash. on the part of america and we send the says there are real sanctions begin now. the same things we saw by the united states in the past were affecting individuals but they were not against the state against p.d.s.a. it was against people related to the government the sanctions were light we're going to see now is an embargo and this is going to be tough demolishing. the n.b.s. has been breeding rabbits in the farm he says people see them as pets but they could be a crucial source of protein. there also needs to be self-criticism the government doesn't know how to plan how to get organized the enormous corruption because the state continues to operate like all agog what we want to eradicate is still and it's up to our social movements to make change in this production as a way to protest. the government says people need to start focusing on producing
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food but many believe it will not be enough to help the vast majority of the population very struggling to meet every day. comes to this point in the state of france what they get every day she says it's difficult for her to find food even though she gets a six dollars pension every month. government is the worst i have ever seen i theme many things but this is the worst ever i don't even get medicine now i have this fish and i hope things change. most families say the situation will deteriorate in the next few months becoming self-sufficient is the only way many venezuelans will have to deal with their everyday life.
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this is our top story saudi arabia has released three women jailed for the human rights campaign in the activists were arrested before the ban on women driving in the kingdom was lifted last june they are still awaiting a final ruling on their case the un investigator is calling on riyadh to publicly open the trial of eleven suspects accused in the murder of journalist jamal khashoggi the special rapporteur on extrajudicial executions are kalama also said the kingdom should release the names of the defendants. at least nineteen people have died in a large fire in a high rise building in bangladesh as capital firefighting teams are trying to put it out with the help of the navy and air force and it is believed some people may still be trapped inside it has more from dhaka. we can confirm at least nineteen people like seventy people in this is according to fire department it is the rescue
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operation is still going on here you can see behind me there are fire trucks that are still trying to salvage bodies from inside the building the fire department told us that this is going to continue till tomorrow morning they expect to find more bodies the casualty figure possibly could go up among the seventy injured many are critically injured and taken to hospitals the pressure on algeria as president to step down continues to mount some members of the opposition say they want more than his resignation they demanded the removal of the entire old regime that would include the army chief the one who suggested a constitutional measure to remove the president on medical grounds a merchant ship that was hijacked by migrants it had rescued has docked in malta earlier on thursday multis forces boarded the boat and took control those one hundred eight people on board are believed to have hijacked the ship after they realized they were being taken back to libya and the u.k. government is to present the brig's it withdrawal deal agreed with the european
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union for another vote in the house of commons this is the deal that's already been rejected twice before but this version is apparently different enough in the view of the speaker of the house to warrant a vote. for you in twenty five minutes time inside stories coming up next. it may be allied to a far right party but the austrian government says it is considering banning a far right movement the reason an alleged connection with the church attack in new zealand vienna says it won't tolerate any kind of extremism but is anyone convinced this is inside story.
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the. hello and welcome to the program has a seeker the austrian government says it won't tolerate what it considers extremist ideology and it's now considering disbanding the far right identity hereon movement and investigating whether that group is a terrorist organization or that decision was made after it was confirmed the movement's leader i'm often sell no received nearly seventeen hundred dollars from the man accused of carrying out the christ church mosque attacks in new zealand but he's denied any time as to white supremacist brenton talent austria is the only country in western europe with a far right presence in government the leader of the right wing freedom party has distanced himself from the identity ariens and the country's chancellor sebastien
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could says radical ideologies on not welcome in austria. also because it's almost our position on this is very clear no kind of extremism whatsoever whether it's radical islamists or right wing extremist fanatics has any place in our country and our society. now the identity tarion movement austria is part of a larger far right identity tarion movement which began in the early two thousand identity tarion ism originally started in france and spread to western europe north america and new zealand it aims to fight what it calls massive immigration and the islamization of europe identity terry and often attack multiculturalism and use islamophobia gretry they say they fear a systematic so-called great replacement of europe's white christian population by non europeans identity ariens are considered by some to be the new media friendly
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face of far right nationalism and focus on recruiting young people. let's bring in our guests now to talk more about this joining us from vienna is michael bond a lot. a journalist author and expert on the far right in austria in berlin we have emily gore sensi research or an advisory board member to the prosecution project a research lab studying political violence she is the creator of first vigil a database tracking far right criminality since two thousand and sixteen and joining us from washington d.c. cynthia miller professor of sociology at the american university and author of the extreme gone mainstream commercialization and the far right youth culture in germany welcome to the program so michael bomba lots how prevalent is this identity tarion movement in austria and how connected is it to the current austrian
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government i mean they they are distancing themselves from this group but how and how connected are they really you know right now there is this process of distancing especially from the far we don't party which is in government but in fact there are a lot of very close and proven this between the f.p.o. which is in government and the i did to terry and movement is fascist group so what we could say is that the. group i did that area movement in itself is pretty weak that's maybe a somehow redacted with its but what is important aren't there is especially there are links to government parties emily gore says he what is it about this movement that appeals particularly to younger people. in europe and how how does it brand
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itself in a way that's different from some of the. traditional far right groups that that we've heard about in the past. well i think that one of the things that we see with this group is that they're very keen on their perception and their optics as they like to put it and we see a lot of young men in particular who join this movement as part of something bigger to be a part of and they see themselves as being slighted on many angles they're young they're white they're male and they sort of see this identity politics playing out in the media and pop culture and the identity movement is in a way its own form of identity politics targeting young men in particular cynthia how does this what what what what similarities do you draw between these groups in europe and what you're what you've seen and studied in the united states well these
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are all part of the same phenomenon mainstreaming of extremist aesthetics and some of the ideas even i think is am i was just saying you what you're seeing is that there's a softer kind of language a more coded kind of language so we're not going to talk about race we'll talk about european heritage where going to we're not going to talk about white separatism but we'll use the language every migration arm emigration depending on how that's framed and so there's a way of coding and softening and it makes it seem less exclusionary although it's not and we had we heard some of that rhetoric didn't we in the in the charlottesville. rallies that took place of course back in two thousand and seventeen and we had we had the chance for them saying jews will jews will not replaces just explain what that means and that how that's part of this what they called a great replacement. yeah the theory of the great replacement which you know comes
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from a french. far right scholar is it is about demographic change it's about this idea that i mean they also use the language of white genocide the language that that that white populations are shrinking ethnically due to demographic change and that through birth rate replacement there will be a shrinking an ever shrinking population of whites and framing that as a threat and i'll say that i think one of the challenges that that governments and communities across the world have to face right now is understanding that even if that's true we have to find ways to frame demographic change in other ways and offer an alternative to young people to to not see demographic change as a threat but instead to see it as an asset and a legal sense i mean you mentioned earlier the this movement seems to largely appeal to kind of disaffected. white men who want to be you know part of something greater greater than themselves but it also appeals
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a lot of women as well doesn't it cuts across a cuts across a lot of demographics. yeah that's true there are a lot of women in the movement there's sort of a subset of the movement called the traditionalist movement and that appeals to this notion of of heritage whether it's american heritage or european heritage which is centered around the nuclear family and the woman's role in the household versus the man's role in the household and so it's there are a lot of men in the movement but there is a strong subset of the movement that is appealing to this sort of traditional notion of femininity this traditional notion of gender roles and so what we've seen what we saw in charlottesville in particular was in this in amidst this you will not replace us mentality there was also quite a bit of antagonism towards. people who are queer or gay or transgender
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there was a lot of antagonism towards this notion of the erosion of these traditional what they perceive as traditional values in our society and so they're this movement sort of likes to define those roles and have certain. i say. duties for different people in the movement you know the women are supposed to go out and they're supposed to serve the men who are out there on the street and in charlottesville we saw that women were required to carry the torches on august eleventh during the torch rally and they were forbidden from attending the rally at the park the next day. michael bumbler martin sound who's the leader. of this i.b.o. party that took money from the alleged shooter in new zealand he's saying that they
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have no damn no connection to this man or what he did and that they are a peaceful or be anti immigration group that has nothing to do with violence does that fit in at all with what you've seen there basically it's clear it's a neo fascist group so if we talk about their stand on while answer now why a land that mainly a tactical stand that they have and like in public they try not to look very while and but what is clear is it was mentioned before does this ideology of a so-called great replace man which they say my the cure but they also say that they are the so-called last generation to prevent that so if you are or if you see yourself as a lost china ration to prevent something of course everything is allowed. to do
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that and they share also some common ideology like this share this ideology of supreme method they share this on the all of chile of as was mentioned before the question of women's rights of the right and so on so there is some common ground so i would say that if the i did to terry move men now tries to this then to itself from attacks like chris church that the tactical this that and they have technical differences but the ideology there are various that many similarities and michael bumble and how much has mainstream politics in europe played a part in fueling these movements because in the past. they were often dismissed as as as kind of fringe groups with very small numbers and not really a threat but we're seeing a lot of this a lot of this narrative now being taken up by some mainstream parties fear of
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immigration and so on. that's not a. i mean that's something that's happened quite a lot in the last few years how do we explain that. well. it seems that there are some far right parties which take the topic of migration forward there are political agenda they are also in government in some countries like in austria in hungary in poland but what we shouldn't forget while we are sitting here are people are dying in the mediterranean sea and it's the politics of the european union who is responsible for this mass killing and if all the major parties if the european union if the far right all then tell you that migration might be a problem and that you have to set up the border set the fences and have to accept
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that people are dying in the sea then it's clear that those who are the most radical in that position will also gain some ground and legal sense he is there you see a common thread here in in a lot of these movements in some of the rhetoric that we've heard from mainstream politicians like viktor orban for example one get hungary's prime minister he built a fence against the migrants in two thousand and fifteen and began calling himself a defender of of christian you europe there was this you know frenzied opposition to muslim immigration real or imaginary ads and this has been. something that's united along a lot of these populist right parties in germany and poland sweden italy throughout europe. yeah i think that the rhetoric here is extremely similar and what's concerning is if you look at the rhetoric and if you look at the tone and the
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language being used in some of these manifestos speeches and even political campaigns there's not much difference and if you were to without knowing which which. words came from which speech it would be very difficult to determine whether it was a politician's speech or a manifesto from a terrorist there's an incident that comes to mind where there was due to speak last march in the u.k. and he was detained by british border authorities and tommy robinson gave his speech instead and if you read the text of that speech it is almost identical in the words the phrasing and the tone to both the christ church shooter's manifesto to a manifesto written by a terror group in the united states that was prevented from bombing muslim community in kansas and the the language that we see coming out of political
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leaders in hungary poland and even the united states. cynthia when we talk about trying to combat the rise of these. groups i mean in austria the government is talking about banning banning them altogether but is that is that really the solution especially when it brings up issues of free speech and so on i mean have we got every got this backwards does there need to be a greater effort to to to promote understanding. in or race yeah absolutely great question i think that you know what we know from banning him in germany has the best is the best example of banning policies and i completely empathize and understand why the vans have been put in place on various symbols but you know you'll have schools that banned the number eighty eight because it stands for the eighth letter of the alphabet for age for al hitler and they don't want kids to display it and and kids start wearing t. shirts that say eighty seven plus one are hundred minus twelve in the banning
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creates its own kind of coding that then gets around the bands and i think we're going to see that with the facebook banning right now is that they're not going to be able to ban and monitor. coded content so i think you know i'm not saying that we shouldn't ban or we shouldn't be monitoring and surveilling and relying on intelligence but that there's no world in which that's enough and i think that what we have to be looking for are much deeper preventative solutions that that that acknowledge what both emily and michael were just saying which is that this is not just a problem of the french that that it's not just a problem that the extreme that's gone more mainstream but it's a problem that the mainstream has moved toward the extreme and so we have to address that within the mainstream by reasserting what it means to live in an inclusive democracy and helping all young people but also across the life span understand how we are going to live together in a time of significantly change diversity. emily got a sense when you look at what happened with the with the alleged shooter in new
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zealand this was a young man who claimed to have developed his own violent belief all by himself he went on the internet he traveled through europe he bought the weapons in self he hone his skills in a suburban shooting range no one there suspected that he was preparing a massacre so i guess my question is how do you how do you start i mean he wasn't on anyone's radar so how are you going to stop. something like this happening again . well i think that you we have to look at the modes of how these people are radicalized we know where these communities are we know the groups that they're chatting in we know the types of behaviors that they're embracing and it is difficult to to identify that the that shooter before because you don't know who it's going to be and that's sort of the whole point that's the this idea of leaderless resistance or stochastic terrorism that has been promoted by the far
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right groups since the late one nine hundred seventy s. the idea here is that rather than having a commander or a cell or any sort of directed attack that the rhetoric is clear in what is necessary in their in their eyes for what types of violence what types of public activism needs to be done to spread their message and so there doesn't need to be a group you know cell there didn't i i have no reason to believe that he told tara to go and shoot up a mosque. but the rhetoric is clear and if you again read their words that they're saying they're elevating that that temperature of violence they're trying to form oppositional groups they're looking at muslims as an oppositional group they're looking at as an oppositional group and it becomes clear to these to these people when you immerse yourself in that culture. some percentage of them are going to
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decide to act out violently and so in order to identify and stop those threats we have to figure out a way to lower that temperature. michael bond villain how much of a role has social media played. in fueling all of this i mean we had this announcement from facebook. that they were going to shut down all of these white nationalist groups and that's that's obviously something to be to be commended but the internet is is such a vast platform there's nothing to stop these groups from just going somewhere else . to to to have all of their discussions and so on so i mean it's an endless battle isn't it well of course it play some role like. the group i did the terrorist movement they might have like two hundred activists in austria but they went first trial because they understood how social media works and of course others helped them like current austrian wife child because the instructor from the freedom party
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she shared her contributions spider i did to tarion movement on facebook helping to make them strong but on the other ahead and this is lot of social media phenomenon alone like trauma not isn't also an artist in the night and so it is they had no facebook and no twitter and still they were able to rise so same before it was mentioned before this question of the lol of right wing terrorism there is some social base for them there is some base in society for them and that what gives them the possibility to gain successes and to get stronger and cynthia when you look at the the rise of these. white extremist groups in the u.s. it's not something that just popped up in the last couple years it's it's clearly something when you look at the numbers it's clearly something that's been on the
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rise for quite some time yet we're only here batting it will only hearing about now in in the last couple years why is that i mean is there a sense that the government just kind of took its eye off the ball in this. well i think that we know that these groups have been around obviously for some time there were traditional groups the k.k.k. the arion brotherhood in prisons we had the patriot militia that started after the vietnam war but those who were always regarded as french they had an aesthetic kind of appearance that made them come across as quite french and very clearly not part of the mainstream and i think what we've seen over the last couple of years is the . that these groups have both expanded their base and they also have cleaned up their static in a way that makes it difficult for people to recognize them and recognize their ideas are as violent and as extremist as they are and i think this gets back to that question of whether ideas can be violent and i think we're seeing that even groups that that a spouse nonviolence you know are expressing violent ideas that if followed through
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to their logical conclusion have to result in violence and so that's i think where we're seeing a broadening of the base and more visibility and of course an amplification over social media and and those and the more violent acts that have occurred over the past few years so so there's a whole range of things happening but it is moved out of fringe groups into more mainstream broader base you know unquestionably there's no doubt about that. how incumbent is it upon the authorities to to do more to promote tomorrow promote awareness of these groups i'm not just talking about from a security point of view i'm talking about getting getting the wider public at large to be to be more aware of this. well i think that it's the place to start with that is with education and with improving access and knowledge to people of different cultures people of different backgrounds we see that that helps when
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young people grow up in environments where they have greater access to a variety of cultural experiences and so i think that that's super important to start with that there is certainly some degree to which law enforcement needs to or could play a role and they have largely been neglectful of white nationalist groups and white supremacist violence particularly in the u.s. and western europe over time but i think that part of what we need to do is is to look at this idea of regulation verses. sort of leading people to come to these values on their own and if we. creep if we keep building a society where our schools are segregated where there is class divisions in terms of who has access to what types of experience and education that's really going to
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continue to breed this sort of hate based movements you know we don't see that the people who are populating these these groups in these these activist circles they're not be what most people think they're not lower class generally they're middle class they're white and they have access to good education what they're not what they don't have access to is a wide range of cultural experiences and that is sort of brief leading to this shock that they have now that they're starting to see things like immigration into europe or into the americas all right we're going to leave it there thanks very much to all three of you michael banville it's emily go sense cynthia miller ages thanks very much for being on inside story and thank you as always for watching remember you can see the program again any time just go to our website i just did a dot com and for more discussion there's a facebook page that's facebook dot com forward slash a.j.
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from doha everyone on come on santa maria this is the news hour from al-jazeera saudi arabia releases three female rights activists after months and detention and the u.n. calls on the saudi government to publicly open the secret trials of suspects in the murder of jamal. and barbara starr in london with the top story from europe that gamble for tourism may as part of her breaks a deal will go back to the british parliament on friday. also the news at least nineteen people have been killed in a fire in an office tower in the bangladeshi capital. and sport it's a job he'd always during to doing after remarkable run of form the only governor for sure is confirmed as manchester united manager on a permanent basis. we've got breaking news on two fronts concerning saudi arabia this hour first the saudi
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government has announced it has released three women jailed for their human rights campaign and these activists were arrested before the ban on women driving in the kingdom was lifted last june they're still awaiting a final ruling on their case eight other women are also facing charges. some of them told a hearing on wednesday they had been sexually harristown flogged by guards while in prison. and then there is the u.n. investigator calling on riyadh to publicly open the trial of eleven suspects accused of involvement in the murder of journalist jamal khashoggi the special rapporteur on extrajudicial executions agnes kalama so the closed door hearings are falling short of international standards she also called on the kingdom to release the names of the defendants let's talk about this the united nations representative for amnesty international joining us on skype from new york sharing the types of things which. is calling for would seem normal and logical however that type of
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pressure on saudi arabia is there any chance of it working. well we're seeing the sort of pressure that's been exerted on saudi arabia that has led to this one tiny step forward for these three women at least they've been temporarily released so there is some sort of hope that there is pressure that can be exerted but this is a whole different this is a whole different thing when we come to talk about too much to show she and this trial has been different from the start because saudi arabia is very much trying to paint their mother should she ask oh really as as an internal affair this is a trial that they are you know that's taking place in saudi arabia they say that they've invited various representatives from france from the u.k. from russia from china from the u.s. to observe this trial and they are following international standards here is the un special rapporteur coming out with this statement today saying that it is falling
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below international standards that this is not an internal affair when you decide to murder a journalist on foreign territory in a foreign consulate and so it's a very strong statement by the u.n. and let's hope that it doesn't fall completely deaf is the problem i guess though surely not to be too negative about it is that the assumption is that it goes all the way up to the crown prince mohammed bin someone it's not just dealing with the saudi judicial system is dealing with the royal family right up to the heir apparent and if there was even a hint of him being involved or if they were to admit to anything like that it just wouldn't be allowed would it. well of course sag eurabia is is claiming the exact opposite though they're saying that we've identified these eleven people because we don't know the identity of these people we don't know anything sorry to the government if anything we don't know anything about it it's all being done behind closed doors the saudi arabia saying that we've identified these eleven people and
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and this is a fair open trial that we've invited some foreigners to even so that if they have nothing to be afraid of then why not actually open it up why not allow for human rights observers for the u.n. themselves to come and to come in and observe for journalists the last time time again to the trial why don't they let them in as well so you know you can't have it both ways you can't stand there and say we are following our judicial process we have nothing to hide why don't people who are to blame but then also not allow any sort of transparency you know the fact is that when this trial you know comes to its end so you will expect that this whole martin goes to bed because they've you know had their trial and they and they've had their proceedings there's no way that the international community will accept this and if indeed there has been no transparency in the trial and that's what we really have to remember here cheering can i ask you as well just briefly about the other story we've got the three saudi
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women who have been released from jail human rights activists again it's only a small step but i guess it's a step in the right direction. exactly i mean this is a temporary release and so we always have to be very careful with this sort of media is a not blown out of proportion but yes i think that it does show that some pressure has come to bear you seen in the past few months the kind of constant pressure that we've seen including from the un themselves and joint statements by various states of the human rights council in geneva just a few weeks ago that sent a strong message to saudi arabia that we are watching what you do and there's no there's no question that saudi is under a certain amount of pressure but it's very important that we keep enough at this point that we don't allow this. these trials these small bits and pieces that we get to detract from the bigger question and the bigger issue here which is about
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saudis very poor human rights record and its continuing crackdown on dissent sure in-town drugs from amnesty international joining us from new york thank you so much for that ok let us bring in my own bashar our senior political analyst here in studio with us let's stay with that story initially the story of the saudi women who have been released i mean the cynic would say it's a it's a p.r. . exercise at a time when saudi arabia needs some good news and needs to be at least seen to be doing the right thing look i think it's more than a symbolic step more than p.r. step and yet it is very little and arguably late why why is this both something to welcome but something to be cautious about something to work on because those women really shouldn't be in jail. certainly shouldn't have been tortured and certainly they should have been harassed about be that as it may now some of them are out conditionally on bail and hopefully the rest of them will be
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released but why in this time well yes on the one hundred it's international pressure but also if you live anywhere in the western world where would you friends are you would notice that every single day there is a story of some sort that is covering negatively saudi arabian every week there's a new breaking story about some violation of some sort in saudi arabia i think the pressure has built up so much on saudi arabia in recent weeks and months including the war in yemen including the fiasco visit. including the prisoners including and so on so forth that i think saudi arabia concluded that happed to release some of the pressure perhaps letting go of some of these women might help face up all these challenges so they might take that step small steps as we say but the
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types of things if i move to jamal khashoggi the types of things with agnes calamos calling for an open trial named the defendants allow it to be an ad that's not going to happen because as i said you can make tactical maneuvers on the female prisoners. but when it comes to. the trial an open trial a serious a show trial will definitely lead to some of those who are truly responsible for the crime and as we've heard from so many of the friends including cia directors and and various western intelligence agencies and others that this couldn't have been done without the clear involvement of the crown prince and i can't see the crown prince being called as a witness or any of the any such like case so in the end of that this hour there is going to have to continue to make this as
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a short trial in order to gain some sort of good p.r. but in the end of the day clearly this was a huge mistake on the part he was crime on the part of the so you're jeem and that's why i think this was probably just hope they would hope for it to go away one more thing i want to ask you about a slight tangent but as i read here on al-jazeera dot com us a. saudi ally u.a.e. official saying arab countries should be more open to israel on the face of it it's sort of makes your ears perk up and then you think will actually is that just admitting what already goes on it is admitting and still it is shocking i mean there's nothing surprising about it it's still shocking for an arab country to be saying that all these years was a mistake that in fact it wasn't israel's aggression occupation. initiation of war. and so on so for the blame but no or the arabs should have really been open
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things are all these years well we know that a good number of arab countries were open to these are all these years and when egypt and jordan even cut that had diplomatic relations with israel during the peace process when israel was truly engaged in some form of diplomatic process but when israel refuses to engage on the basis of international new un security council resolutions there is really no point at all these years they have been a third party called the united states called europe that were involved as third parties to mediate and they failed why because israel would not return to the nine hundred seven borders would not recognize a palestinian state would not withdraw from occupied east jerusalem as on so forth but why the why now well now it's because the united states putting pressure on the likes of the united arab emirates beharry and saudi arabia egypt and others to come forward and support the so-called deal of the century which now is really coming
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out for its true colors which is a trap of the century of sort whereby the united states is basically dictating a not a solution of but rather the dissolution dissolving instead of zol the resolving the palestinian question by getting the gulf countries like the u.a.e. and saudi arabia to contribute money to the palestinians under occupation so that they can live better under israeli control that's of course not acceptable to the person ians but i think the u.a.e. and others now will in the end next few weeks and i'm not sure if they're going to bring it up tomorrow and the foreign foreign ministers meetings or in the arab summit on sunday you know we will of course look for the. thing that political analyst thank you. one more element to fold into this and that is the u.s. energy secretary who has authorized several companies to sell nuclear power technology to saudi arabia and others according to the reuters news agency which
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says the companies have actually requested the deals be kept secret the kingdom is planning to build two.

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