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tv   The Listening Post 2019 Ep 13  Al Jazeera  March 31, 2019 5:32pm-6:01pm +03

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to actually say what's going on in their own organization now must be pretty troubling well just to be clear about it for amnesty. when we look at the report or the reports. people with felt free to speak in the reports we could to the safe space and i think that was a positive i think this was a problem that was left to string for decades right and the fact that. we say the time has come now for us to actually look at ourselves internally we cannot simply be looking at external weaknesses on the part of government business and so on because we want to as gun when gandhi said be the change we want to see in the world so i would urge not to see it as that this is like a massive issue within the organization like for example with the cases yes and i'm privy to a confidential report which which documents particular cases names and so on and
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i'm going through each one of them and i want to assure people that you know for example you know the speculation about how bad it is is this sexual harassment there which they isn't and so on but i think the approach as the leadership of. amnesty at the board level and so on that given our values given what we stand for one case or two cases of racism or sexism or bullying. one case too many and therefore we and then i've been in an amnesty for six months not right and i can tell you i've not seen the case of bullying in six months i've not seen it you know doesn't mean it's not have you know absolutely absolutely and that's part of what we've done through this process which is we've created a context now way with david's he's in the organization people are free and i encourage to actually come forward and report and so on and i've said if people
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feel that they cannot report to their manager they will all that it's a level that people can come straight to me and a few people have come to me but they've what's positive for me is that most of the people that have reached out to me every shot with solutions you know they've named a particular issue and people have quite a you know structural in systemically of analyzing it not only saying well somebody's an individual made in it but. to understand people also looking at why individual good people make bad it has and that's something we need to have the honesty to be able to do seven of your senior leadership team have offered to resign will you accept the resignation firstly i think i want to acknowledge that this was an act of courage on my colleagues it was not easy to do for them to do it collectively and so on. and and i and i think that people in other sectors in government and business must look at this as an example that they could emulate i
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will not accept all the resignations because firstly it's very important to note that all the various reports and all of the not find individual accountability in the sense no individual there were acts committed but the culture it was a culture and these folks obviously in edited the culture it wasn't them that created it so i would not accept all the nations i would make my decisions based on . the structure that we knew would need more moving forward and for those. offers that i do decide to accept i will do it in a thoughtful considered phased way so that it does not impact on our operational capacity. but certainly we want to send a signal that we are going to refresh our leadership team as we move forward and the structure will look different and ultimately the composition look different as well critics say that amnesty isn't careful enough about the company that it keeps
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back in twenty ten before your time again just so hell he was the head of the gender unit that was suspended after she urged honesty not to work with the organization prisoners on the former guantanamo detainee was sent back here in london saying he is quote britain's most famous supporter of the taliban she also said the alliance on the mind campaigned for women's rights seventy years later honesty finally cut those ties with kate. in your opinion is honesty too careless about its associations and again you know risking its credibility because of. all the details of this as you say before my time let me just say that amnesty is when i have first they stopped us and we need a bigger more bolder and more inclusive human rights movement the more inclusive challenge is that we have to work with a wild wide array of actors some in government some in business and
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the example you give is within civil society we cannot seek to have one hundred percent agreement with every organization that we partner with our that we do expect that the people we partner with we need to have a broad sharing of values while we might disagree on specific. policies so for example i would say that with the religious leaders for example. you know religious leaders are doing some really good work right now on climate change on refuse g.'s and so on and i do not think it is a problem for us to get in fact i would encourage us to engage with the faith community on that doesn't mean that we with everybody in the faith community fit community of course is divided on issues such as q. rights or a woman's right to choose and so on the different opinions within the faith community and but because we have the disagreement i do not think we should not
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have principled alliance that on it is really key i mean said that. this is not a perfect science. because organizations. that you might entertain to a partnership at the beginning might be. you know working on certain things and when the tissue changes and so on the organization my transform this is something that we have to be much more vigilant about but i am saying that we rather take. approach that we have to work with others but make sure that we have very clear principles in the principles that we have is for example ensuring that a partnership is increasing all we impact our possibility of impact ensuring that there's a values commonality and also things like sometimes we might not into a partnership not because we have a disagreement on values or policy but because by us entering into a partnership we put a human rights activists under threat because amnesty and sing into
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a partnership by you know. raise the risk levels for four person working in the place of environment and the other problem of course is you rely don't you honestly support if you. associate yourselves with people who those supporters feel do you damage credibility they're going to melt away only they're not going to be there for you for a little so strongly about and they did this to case they felt very strongly about it nerves to be and i mean you know sometimes of course our supporters also feel strongly that one town i'm a baby was an abomination that it was a violation of international law and still is and so on so it is a you know it's sometimes not as black and white it's not like you're making and and we've learned from this and i can assure you that we will be vigilant about how we apply our approach to building a more inclusive movement that. that has certain clear principles that guide it was
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seventy honesty is of course a non governmental organization but it does accept money from governments the quote projects to educate people and communities about their human rights sounds a little bit vague how can we be sure that honesty doesn't actually be. how to pressure just spend that cash purely on projects that said government approves of well firstly just to assure your viewers that we are the ever take any money from governments ninety percent of the resources that amnesty uses comes from individual citizens around the world where the average donation being five dollars a month we think that the sponsibility of human rights education should be responsibility of government our governments of signed it is un protocols universal declaration of human rights and multiple other human rights international frameworks and it is their responsibility to educate these citizens as to what they
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have signed up to and to ensure that you know we don't have the animal ease like we have for example in the nordic countries so if you know the nordic countries seem at the moment correctly that their leaders are in gender equality but i've just come from denmark and finland with their a pledge a solution does not include constant so with a woman gives consent or not for somebody to be accused and convicted of rape they must have used violence and with the woman said yes or no and that's why we've launched this campaign let's talk about yes and sweden only changed the law last year and we are now in the process of hopefully getting denmark and finland to do so in the next coming you know coming months but should not be completely separate from amnesty should she be taking the government's money for those educational projects that should the government not be doing not as a as
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a separate projects and being completely separate non-governmental this is quite surprising you know governmental to be meant no nothing no in vogue i mean just to be clear that most non-governmental organizations in the world. taking money from government business amnesty actually takes very little money and there's a very high threshold if you go guidelines policy. and really when i say ninety percent comes from individual citizens and the ten percent where does the ten percent come from that really comes from primarily foundations and trusts which meet fairly high ethical standards and there's absolute transparency on every single grant that we have it's you know vailable in a website we reported and you lead to the global assembly and so on and we have at range of. safeguard procedures so for example if somebody wants to give anonymous donation. we would accept if people wanted to but we
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wouldn't. can place any conditions on it. and i mean nobody can place conditions on ground unless it fits in with what we had really and there's a commonality and we signed an agreement with the foundation which is working in the same area we also ensure that there's a third party even if you cation the can do deal diligence is done i have to tell you it's very complex that it takes a lot of time it sometimes means that we lose grants that we need i think the important thing that people need to know is that we in a very difficult situation and i if you just take one company let's take shell for example but where we various issues would show especially at our house slowly the withdrawing out of fossil fuels but if you look at shell and you look at child's marketing budget a lot. that is left ten times the size of all of the amnesty entity's out
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on the world's resources and in that context with the information environment within which we operate is so complex and difficult to get on message across we need to recognize that organizations like amnesty are actually fighting a really happy old struggle to get our message is out and so i make no apologies of saying to individual citizens around the world and this to belongs to people it was set up by ordinary people join us if you do and the other important thing is i say it's not just about money for me right now i would say if we're going to build a strong amnesty we need to recognize that people contribution in terms of voice is just as important and you know in terms of whatever financial contribution they can make and that is why at the moment we have a huge emphasis on c.v.s. league lowering our supporter base from eight million to twenty five million over the next. players even take money from lotteries which is essentially
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a form of gambling are you comfortable with us as well a few cases in these. law trees which stand to be sort of unconventional in the sense they are based on your postal code and it was set up for charitable purposes and there are two cases where we do and i understand there with debates on it and there are a range of other international and so i think we we we made the decision to do the systolic you before my time not. in isolation but it ensuring that was there was a group of like minded and jews that in fact some of them contributed setting it up in holland and in sweden a believe it's probably a fair question to ask but i think from what i understand that as much due diligence has been put into to ensure that it's as clean as possible so happy and well you know listen we want to be blunt all monies that he writes shall be one
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cent that has been is absolutely key and i would do some prayer for you. i mean that's just the reality and we need to accept it right but within the accepting that we have to have certain principles and values that we hold true to and i will try certainly as the second example of arms to moving forward that we have been very at the call approach to where we take money from and how we transparently let the world know we'll be taking money from and that's been in the past but i will be sure that we do with even more strongly in terms of transparency and whole community thank you for talking to al-jazeera thank you thank you very much i. rewind continues i can bring your people back to life i'm sorry with updates on the best documentary. the struggle continues but from back to now
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use distance revisiting. we're going back to a poor south african neighborhood where music and tradition come together in an annual competition. the. only reward. and your husband gavin worst lee when fourteen i just broke down the back duel between ages described as being of african appearance still on the run before all of this happened. i wasn't scared of black people or people of color or. whatever the focus on african gang crime began in march twenty sixth seen when violence broke out at the moon the festival at federation square in the center of melbourne to gird shoot of african young people coming together and knowing there was a fort bragg at it because of my rolling all if you lot some of it was because the place because i mean all of them started choice and they just people and that
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crowded already been in the media up to tom a lot of political pressure on these people to be chronic and to see the race whole human gets blamed for the actions of the few. people have to be a cipher have to feel sized aside there's a lot of perception issues i think that we need to deal with this while. israel reopens two main crossings into gaza following the killing of four palestinians during mass protests. one child is there a lie from a headquarters and. also a heads more than just
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a local election the vote in turkey that's being seen as a test the president's order wants threatened. ukraine's president hopes to retain power in sunday's election by fighting off the challenges of a comedian and a former prime minister no drilling for oil in the arctic a u.s. judge rules donald trump's executive order unlawful and invalid. hello. the two main border crossings into gaza are open again for the first time in six days israel lifted restrictions on sunday morning after a weekend of mass protests along the fence dividing gaza and israel for palestinian protesters were killed and two hundred forty others injured as palestinians marked one year since beginning a weekly march of return. is joining us from gaza to tell us whether there's been any confirmation from hamas on the border crossings that are now reopened and
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whether there is any deal in the works. that even the hamas does confirm that the crossings have been open but there has not been any further confirmation about finalization of this deal between the how mouse other palestinian factions and israel there is a cautious sense of optimism here in gaza today that a deal might be quite close it's expected that in the coming hours it will be announced that restrictions on fishermen here will be eased and that they will be able to fish anywhere between twelve to fifteen nautical kilometers away from the coast here in gaza that of course would be a boost for the fishermen here who have not been able to enter the waters these last several days all that being said it's quite tricky the mood certainly has been deescalated the tensions aren't at the level that they were in the past week and certainly there was a lot of restraint that was exercised at those protests yesterday the year first
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year anniversary of the great march of return protests but how much has said several times that right now the ball is really in the israelis court that they are at a crossroads they are waiting to see what exactly the israelis will do and when they have also asked repeatedly for there to be guarantees that these steps that might be agreed to will be implemented and they would like to see a timetable or at least a commitment to a timetable now we know that the egyptian delegation that has been mediating between hamas other palestinian factions and the israelis that they have left gaza once more that they are on route to tel aviv to try to take hamas his demands back to israeli officials once that meeting happens we'll have a better idea of what exactly is going to happen going forward but again i keep coming back to the same point today when we've been speaking which is that really the mood here has been a restrained one the past few days we were at the protest site yesterday on gaza's
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border with israel there were flare ups intermittently but the fact of the matter is it. as far more contained than people thought it might be there had been a real sense of worry that things could get out of control yesterday that it could turn extremely violent at the end of the day yes there were four deaths reported there was anger about that but also you had a mouse and islamic jihad volunteers that were there that were trying to constrain the protesters who were trying to keep people from running toward the finns and because of that there was an extraordinary measure that was taken yesterday evening in which the spokesman for the israeli army actually praise how much for practicing the restraint they did for trying to contain the protesters so a lot going on but i keep coming back to the idea that the mood is much calmer than people feared it would be after all the escalation last week at a time when tensions are high because you're right around the time of the israeli elections as well right now things much calmer people a lot more cautiously optimistic than they had been last week. all right somehow june thank you well talks between israel and the palestinians are set to dominate
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the thirtieth arab summit which is getting underway and it's in as the capital tunis the region's leaders are gathering right now against the backdrop of division war and unrest in the middle east a high level meeting to resolve the problems in libya has already taken place chaired by the un six secretary-general. terrorists iran khan joining us from tunis where that summit is taking place since we see serious divisions and ongoing wars in the region iran what's likely to be on that agenda in tunis. well what we're going to see for is that the saudi arabian king hand over the reins as effectively is to the tune is in that unity in the they will then speak and then we'll hear from gates who is the arab league general secretary but off that we don't know what the speakers will be and we are expecting for example king ability
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of jordan who's here to be speaking also the q. eighty leaders also expecting. president. of egypt to speak as well we don't know what order they'll be in but we do know the high on the agenda as you've said is israel and palestine particularly emphasizing the palestinian cause they say that the arab identity of occupied east jerusalem the capital of the state of palestine should be recognized they're also stressing that the unilateral u.s. decision regarding the occupied golan heights needs to be. to be declared sorry null and void as it sees the recognition of jerusalem being the capital of israel so there's a lot of work on the israeli palestinian conflict that we expect to see we're also going to see a very strong statement when it comes to iran already the draft communique that we have received suggests that the wooding might be something like rejecting any meddling by iran in every any arab states domestic affairs and demanding that iran
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pull out all its militias and men from arab states and also we are expecting a condemnation of any attempt to link islam with terrorism. since he has actually arrived at the airport so we are expecting him to speak at some point so a lot of leaders here a lot of people going to be speaking but it looks like israel palestine is going to be the dominating factor in these talks and that the arriving right now are looking at live pictures from tunis emraan when it comes to the draft communique expected on sunday do we. to see strong definitive language regarding the issues that the region faces or more watered down version. traditionally in the language has always been very woods down it's always been very diplomatic however what's really interesting and you were talking about this with
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my colleague ram a german jew just a few moments ago is these egyptian led mediation efforts between how mass and between the israelis now there was some talk about whether the view gyptian president was going to arrive at the summit as you can see those pictures now saying that he has a right to will he mention any coming due in the next few hours is that why is it i don't want to the arab states feel about also as i said high on the agenda is the golan heights that's only recognized as disputed or occupied territory by the syrians the americans have said it's actually sovereign israeli territory however what's more interesting than that is the fact that yes they are talking about syria but what they're not talking about at the arab summit is syria's readmission into the arab league membership was actually suspended as the war continued in syria itself although they're talking about syria the syrians were at the summit to make
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that case ok emraan thank you live pictures once again from tunis of regional leaders arriving right now to take part in the arab league summit being held in the capital. voting is underway in turkey's local elections which are being seen as a major test for president. party of police fifty seven million people are eligible to cast their ballots for more than a thousand mayors the party has dominated turkish politics for nearly two decades but a weak currency and high inflation could see it lose control of key mayoral seats set of course reglue has more from istanbul. for the first time in turkey's political history reject the president holds local election rallies across the country the president's campaigning is an indication of how important these elections are to him and his party they are seen by many as a popularity test after zach party seventeen years at the helm and it's
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a state of economy that is presenting president add ons biggest challenge and could turn voters away from him. because the ruling party believes they can win by polarization and avoiding real problems but packing it survival to the country's future may risk the president's credibility the ruling party currently governs forty nine out of eighty one provincial misspell a t's the party formed people's alliance with the nationalist movement party in the last two elections and nominated joined candidates then they complain about high food prices so what if there are no onions in my cooking what i can't live without is our flag our country or the sound of the call to prayer turkey's main opposition party c.h.p. and the conservative good party have united under the nation's alliance some. the people's alliance divides there are those with them and those against the even called opponents terrorist. and i kist if i don't support your pro kurdish party h
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d p currently is the third largest faction in parliament it has an affair look candidates and a stumble on car and there is mir instead is concentrating its efforts in a stronghold in the southeast of the country and it supports the opposition candidates in the west i believe kurdish votes in big cities like istanbul and ankara in is near have the potential to be a game changer however it would still follow what the popular trend is. the people's alliance how waged a severe campaign by accusing candidates of having links to the. kurdish why. to prove which truth can its western allies consider a terrorist organization prison tired owns acquired is facing perhaps the greatest challenge in seventeen years the economy the continuing recession threatens the support base especially in big cities like a stumble and sunday's local elections will reveal the president standing among
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fifty seven million turks eligible to vote. al-jazeera stumble still ahead on al-jazeera algeria's army chief says there's a campaign against the military after it back calls for the removal of president of the most of the. backlash as brazil commemorates a nineteen sixty four military coup why president also naro believes it will bring unite the country. hello again it's good to have you back we are cross parts of south asia we are seeing the increase of rain coming up here towards the north particularly over parts of northern philippines and across much of vietnam parts of laos as well as cambodia notice the forecast map how much to the north that rain does extending over here towards design is.

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