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the people who have been running ukraine for the last 25 years and so and you saw that today in various reports from the ukrainian parliament they want massive crowds there supporting selenski so selenski is popularity isn't really very deep in that sense it's more an anti vote than a pro vote supporters sees alinsky as a breath of fresh air among his 1st steps a pledge to call early parliamentary elections he's referred to some m.p.'s as petty crooks and a promise to end the war with russian backed separatists said let bush of nights you could i'm ready he said to do everything so that our heroes don't die. that's something his previous s. a petro poroshenko wasn't able to do and while poroshenko did make reforms that helped ukraine stable for economic collapse voters decided he hadn't done enough to rid the country of corruption selenski will be under great pressure to do better.
a presidency that breaks with tradition got off to the most known traditional start a flashy convoy for volodymyr zelinsky who chose to walk the streets to his swearing in ceremony high fives and selfies also not whole blocks of previous administrations all of this clearly styled as a fresh start for ukraine even though no one really knows what president's events plans to do or is capable of don't know how al-jazeera. so ahead here on al-jazeera display soon became a fan so 2 men from rival communities in mali tell their stories of overcoming violence. i'm sorry i was at the cannes film festival by new wave of north african female filmmakers taking center stage.
i know there were scenes of very heavy rains over parts of southeastern china recently in fact that weather system is just now tracking a bit further towards the south you can see the bright white areas of cloud that we've had on it there those are given a some very heavy downpours and we could expect more over the next couple of days over taiwan expect more heavy showers here and they stretch down into the southern parts of china and then into parts of vietnam and it's this section that's going to intensify and push northwards as we head through wednesday so more of us in northern vietnam and across the border into the grand she province of china i think here is where we see some of the wettest of the weather meanwhile across towards india here there's a lot of thawing draw a weather around for pakistan there a little bit more in the way of cloud that's all. just now affecting us in the northern parts of india as well this central paul they just incredibly hot now as you'd expect at this time of year temperature poor jews they should be around $44.00 degrees when i have a few pretty monsoon showers i think for the southwestern parts so here water to those showers are likely to be rather heavy and for sure lanka looks like the
monsoons already started here in the south that's what we'd expect at this time of year towards the west and things are pretty unsettled across the arabian peninsula at the moment we've had a lot of showers around and so with a chance of a few more over the next few days. just a few months after journalist jamal a special she was killed another arab dissident was under threat norwegian security officials had to take him from his home in oslo to a secure location after attempts at the saudis were targeting him. human rights activist to baghdad talks town just.
a reminder of our top stories and the u.s. president has issued a direct threat to iran tweeting the differ on wants to fight it will be the end of the country iran's foreign minister zarif has hit back saying iran will not be intimidated by quote genocidal told us. government is rejecting the 1st part of donald trump's so-called deal of the century the u.s. will co-host a conference in bahrain next month focused on economic development in the occupied territories. ukraine's new president used his swearing in ceremony to dissolve parliament triggering a snap election for them as alinsky also said his 1st task is getting a cease fire agreement with pro russian separatists just. south africa's
former president jacob zuma is in courts hoping that judges will throw out corruption charges against him jew murders accused of fraud money laundering and racketeering some of those charges relate to a controversial arms deal while he was deputy president prosecutors say he received money to cover up illegal purchases of combat kits for the south african navy and media miller is outside the court and get them out. jacob zuma supporters have been waiting patiently won't take to hear from the former president he's expected to address the people here only time from now and that's off to a court proceeding straight pietermaritzburg wrapped up on the 1st day of arguments where zuma story is arguing that shouldn't start stand trial this is for a number of reasons one of them is that jacob zuma was charged more than a ticket ago and even though those charges were thrown and then reinstated his lawyers arguing that given the amount of time that's cost the trial should have
happened at that time and should proceed now oh his lawyers also claim that the charges against jacob zuma are politically jordan and they also say that he has been spied on illegally by the government so these are the arguments his lawyers will use in the coming days as they try to convince the court the jacob zuma shouldn't stand trial people outside certainly believe the former president they say he's innocent they say he's here to support him as long as he meets if they're here until the end however the prosecutors in this case it jacob zuma has been responsible for the naming the case it's taken this long because of some of the tactics he was employed those posts moments that he's managed to get and they believe that jacob zuma assumer rather should be held accountable for what south africans of calling the arms deal in that jacob zuma received payments from
a french moms manufacturer tolley's for his political protection when they were supposed to provide a provide free kits to the south african navy. at least 7 people have been killed in southern mali the country's interior ministry says gunman on motorbikes opened fire in cody near the border with confessor may group is admissible sponsibility for the killings. when the violence has displaced almost 200000 people warning now that nicholas hunt's report contains graphic images. they keep coming carrying what they can for lani herders victims of attacks by their own neighbors they bear witness of unspeakable violence 17 year old i would not last his parents into siblings all hacked to death. there is no justice if we go to the police to denounce the killers they put us in jail it's as if we are the criminals. mobile
phone footage has emerged from a morgue in neighboring mali these are bodies of men killed because of their suspected link to armed groups they are the latest victims of intercommunal violence that is spreading across the us to hell both the group at the slavic state and the greater south and. seek to attract young recruits from the full on the community exploiting grievances against the state and local authorities and encouraging revenge attacks. government believes these armed groups are behind the attacks on catholic churches and schools in the north of the country. a devout christian and primary school teacher from the northern region fled to the capital after full on the armed men stormed his classroom and threatening to kill him if he didn't convert to islam and teach the koran in school i'm not myself but the one that we can every we know our attackers they are for the most part our brothers
from burkina faso so it's even more painful to see that this has come to this stage where we are ready to kill each other for what 2 young men displaced and caught in the spiral of violence tearing burkina faso apart nicholas hawke al-jazeera. google's parent company alphabet has suspended some of its business with the chinese way saying it's complying with the us government orders new always smartphones wanting to have access to google play store where users download popular apps like g. mail and you tube it will maintain use of the andrew. operating systems are open source licensing google will not provide weiwei with any technical support the united states is trying to blacklist the company around the world several countries have been well away from being involved in the development of their 5 g. mobile network citing security concerns the chinese take giant says it will continue providing updates and off to sales service to its existing smartphones and tablets. tangan is
a political analyst who advises the chinese government and he says the u.s. is trying to cripple the competition. basically this is a very clear attempt to cripple hallway it's kind of like in the old days the u.s. when confronted by russia over sputnik going to the moon they said we're going to outcompete you we're going to show you the best and the brightest and what we can do but today it seems more about tripping up the competition we don't have to compete against you if we can cripple you this is going to be a long term situation in terms of what beijing can do hopefully it won't but it could quite possibly say that for security reasons they will be banning broadcom qualcomm who have also joined on the train with google and keep all of those out make it almost impossible from the do that then this is what i would call a hard fork where you're really going to see a real change in and basically 2 camps going ahead with their respective
technologies you can see apple's sales plummet this is one of the other realities of this trade war is that these types of international stories are going to impact more and more nationalist china and they will shy away from buying apple and other u.s. products remember this is a over $350000000000.00 a year market where u.s. companies are selling in china and that that would have disastrous consequences for american businesses especially on the profit lines one of the latest bombardments of rebel held territory in syria has killed at least 10 civilians opposition activists say shelling in that strikes have continued in the northwestern province of it live despite the syrian army and russian allies declaring ceasefire the remaining rebel stronghold is also subject to a white a cease fire brokered by russia. for accounting for india's 6 week long election will not begin until thursday but already exit polls suggesting
a victory for prime minister. sunday was the final phase of the study could polling the election around 900000000 people manageable to the nation it was dominated by the ruling party's national and the opposition's cool to deal with rising unemployment. and politicians from europe's mainstream parties are calling on voters to stand against the far right ahead of the european parliament election day in france a president has broken with tradition who has joined the campaign and the reports from paris. france is european elections are shaping up to be something of a rerun of the 2017 presidential campaign emanuel mark calls pro e.u. centrist party and the anti e.u. far right party of marine le pen opinion polls suggest in the lead for votes the jewel of opposing visions of europe and a reflection of growing divisions in france at this paris market some say they're worried about immigration climate change and the cost of living i'm totally sick of
politicians with that big salaries that's opposed to defend us workers but they do nothing for us says mcconnachie been a power was struggling to live. it's important to vote for europe because there are countries where populist governments have come to power and it will. continue the far right one france's last european elections in $24.00 teen since then and the immigration populous parties have flourished in europe and brakes it has rattled the bloc in the pen and the nationalist allies move even when the noise still weak is so we're experiencing a historic moment and all the signs show that we are on the eve of great political change in europe the idea of a europe that denies the right of nations to exist you're thora terry in a vision of an imprisoning e.u. have been massively rejected. the french president's rarely publicly campaign in european elections but macro's breaking with tradition he says europe's in crisis and he's fighting to save it i want reforms e.u.
i want to accelerate the integration on some issues i think on currency on digital on climate action we need more europe i want you to be more protective for emanuel mark all these elections are an opportunity not. only to campaign for a united europe but also to try and boost his personal popularity in the world after a particularly challenging year domestically. difficult 6 months period with yellow vests and a huge drop in his popularity in the country so these elections are a test for him what is at stake for him is 1st of all to rebuild his popularity within the country and to be in a position to have some influence on european affairs for the next 2 years the elections might be a chance for macra but they are all say fraught with risk a win for the president's party and france will bolster him for the remainder of
his mandate but if his party loses to the far right it will be a humiliating defeat in france and a sick back for example in europe especially butler al-jazeera paris. prosecutors in sweden have taken the 1st step towards seeking the extradition of wiki leaks founder julian assange on allegations of rape they made a formal request to a swedish court for science to be detained he's currently serving 50 weeks in the u.k. prison for skipping bail sweden dropped its case against him in 2017 good it was reopened after his eviction from the ecuadorian embassy in london last month and sanchez also wanted in the united states for cyber hacking. this is cannes film festival showcasing work by several north african filmmakers who are tackling subjects long considered to boom in their home countries the 1st one is also featuring more female directors from the region than ever before from the south of france is challenging. but. a new film from algeria
about a free spirited student during the civil war of the 1990 s. and it was a let's let's you. know is a party a feminist and a fashion designer face loyal to algeria resisting the rising conservatism the help of her friends. she quotes his official account it's a moving drama loosely based on the life of 1st time feature director. who explained why algeria is now seeing a greater artistic output. i think that me and my algerian friends all to filmmakers are part of a generation who needed some time we lived in through the ninety's so we couldn't express ourselves because the situation was very complicated there are no fumes schools in algeria we don't have cinemas we are a generation that needed to build itself and that generation is now ready to convey their stories. another film selected by can i have to buy moroccan filmmaker.
the story of a friendship between a single mother from casablanca and a pregnant girl. both projects is supported by the film institute 4 whose mission is to empower filmmakers in the arab world after all the revolutions and the political issues that happened in that region. a window where they can speak about oppression about the social impacts and the economy. political. situation that they had to go through and this is a fantastic because the female perspective usually has a different point of view. and adam may be novelties for the cannes film festival but one to museum producer says the output was there in the past it's just been overlooked if. our region with the west we've always had many
directors. even. if it's not something. new for us began the film festival has the power to run these stories into the spotlight stories of repression patriarchy and resistance told in the only way both films a strong contenders for the camera door prize for 1st feature film more importantly pave the way for future female filmmakers charlie and to al-jazeera can. recover headlines here in the u.s. president has issued a direct threat to iran tweeting that if iran wants to fight it will be the end of the country iran's foreign minister. will not be intimidated by quote genocidal. shortly after trump treated fox news. too. i want to invade if i have to economically we've created
a much stronger country economically than when i took it over when i took it over we were heading south our g.d.p. would have been very negative regulations did not allow you to do you know yesterday as you probably saw i was in louisiana opening up a $10000000000.00 plant that would have never been approved under another type of administration. government is rejecting the 1st part of donald trump's so-called deal of the century the u.s. will co-host a conference in bahrain next month focused on the financial aspects of the plan but senior palestinian leaders say they've not been invited nor are they willing to participate. the cabinet stresses that it wasn't consulted about the reported workshop neither about the content nor the outcome and or the timing it clarifies that the financial crisis that the palestinian national authority is living through today is a result of the financial war that is being waged against us in order to win political concessions we do not submit to blackmail and we do not trade our
political rights for money russian and syrian government strikes reportedly killed tens of millions in italy opposition activists say bombing has continued despite the declaration of a cease fire the offensive in the last rebel held province intensified late last month. ukraine's new president used his swearing in ceremony to dissolve parliament triggering a snap election to be incidents he also said his 1st task is to be in ceasefire agreement with pro russian separatists in the east he added the talks with russia could only happen after the return of ukrainian territory and prisoners of war so that africa's former president jacob zuma is in cold hoping that judges will throw out corruption charges against him zuma was accused of fraud money laundering and of racketeering some of those charges relate to a controversial deal while he was deputy president prosecutors say he was paid to cover up illegal purchases of combat gear for the south african navy. today with headlines. more news coming right up after talk to outta here.
on counting the cost as the u.s. ratchets up the pressure on iran we look at the strait of hormuz the most valuable waterway in the world tourism industry takes a hit after these the sunday attacks and flying cars as the future just a rough. cost. to the. city. just months after a journalist was killed in the saudi consulate in istanbul another arab dissident says his life he's also in danger. baghdad he is a pro-democracy activist and strong critic of saudi arabia's crown prince mohammed bin. the u.k.'s guardian newspaper reported that norwegian officials took him from his home in 00 to a secure location there he was told the cia had warned norway's government that the saudis had him in their crosshairs baghdadi gained popularity during the arab
spring when he posted pro human rights messages on social media the palestinian activist was granted asylum in norway 4 years ago after being expelled from the united arab emirates for his criticism of middle eastern regimes. in oslo in an exclusive interview baghdadi discusses an unlikely friendship with the murdered washington post journalist jamal for saudi and have continuing work has brought him into the crosshairs of the saudi government human rights campaigner el baghdadi talks to al-jazeera. a daily thank you for talking to al-jazeera thank you so much for having me i'd like to go back a couple of weeks now to the 25th of april when you 1st got the knock on your door here in oslo telling you that there was a threat against you how did you react how did it happen. well to be honest i
wasn't that surprised that they showed up. and i believe the 1st thing i said to them once they introduced themselves told me their badges was something like what took you so long. i remember on that day you know from the corner of my eye i could see some activity outside i could see that i think they were standing there for a while. it seemed to me that they secured the area before asking me to go with them norwegians the norwegian security the norway we call them the p.s.t. they're kind of a combination of norway's you know kind of see if the i and security you know. special service you can see so they also provide security for politicians and dignitaries. and they're known to be you know highly professional highly competent . so. at the time of course they were in plain clothes and what did they tell you. they didn't tell me any details on the spot they simply asked me to go with them they didn't give you any sense of why there was
a threat against you or where information had come from they only did that once i was safe and secure in that specialist secure location would do this and they simply sat me down and then they told me that they received a tip from a partner intelligence agency indicating that i've been the target of a threat and you now believe that to be the cia and the threat to be coming from yes the time i had a good i had a good. idea that it was the cia but i wasn't 100 percent sure and i believe i only this only was completely confirmed when the guardian did you know the work to confirm it and in the absence of real evidence to support this notion of a threat what gives you pause to think that it is credible that there is a real threat out there well to start i think the you know whether whatever you think about this from a moral point of view i believe everyone would agree that there are competent. so i
don't believe that this would have passed. if there wasn't something behind it. but i should also mention that i started to become concerned about my security as far back as october you know shortly after the murder which was murder on october 15th i received a friendly tip from a saudi source indicating that you know i'm being discussed and that i should be concerned about my security. you mentioned other names as well and you know i also inform them. but i didn't take any drastic action back then. in february while i was working with business as the investigation team i became i mean. i started to understand how sensitive that matter is and i started to feel i mean revisiting a lot of my old sources etc. i started to feel that i mean i don't want
to be too dramatic but i felt like you know i have i probably have cross hairs on my back. and i did indicate my concern to a number of norwegian friends you know and in an e-mail that went around asking them for advice you know what you know someone who is in this kind of situation what do you do where do you go. in march i filed a police report with the police with the local police which is the normal procedure when you want to you know when to and want to indicate something like that but i believe it was over a month over a month had passed before. the p.s.t. came to my door so it was october last year the same month that i showed you it was killed that you began to feel somewhat under threat yourself and you were friends with him where you know. and you work together well yeah i mean initially of course i mean i tell people that someone like them all and i are not supposed to be friends we're not supposed to be friends the reason is for the longest time was one
of the elites he was a figure who was deeply loyal he continued to be deeply loyal to the saudi state to the idea of saudi arabia. and for the longest time i mean within my team we had a lot of frustration we had rants about about how should we you know like the guy who almost gets it the guy who would say 10 things 10 positives you know 10 things about democracy and human rights and free expression 9 of them would be things that you would absolutely you know agree with and the temp would walk it all back you know. and so i was always skeptical about that until that moment when he chose exile. and something really amazing happened after that which was that one was unshackled from having to be concerned about his
security and about you know his his safety once he was safe reasonably in the united states. he could have gone in any direction he could have gone to words you know he could have one of his dreams was to start his own t.v. station or could have done that he could have you know gotten a pretty decent position at a think tank for example in d.c. . eventually he chose 2 things 1st journalism his 1st you know his 1st identity and he gravitated towards activists was used to some kind of normal politics he was used to the old saudi arabia which had some kind of norms and some kind of traditions of how things happen. as completely destroyed that and the end of normal politics eventually meant that you have to seek other ways of seeking influence. and i think that's how he that's when he started to gravitate towards activism m.b.'s. of course the crown prince in saudi arabia. eventually you found
common cause with jamal khashoggi do you think that it was your association with him. the 1st put you on the radar of the saudi authorities to attempt to answer your question. we did a risk assessment and we identified 6 or 7 reasons of 6 or 7 things that i've been working on you and he not with jamal i mean generally i mean 3 of these are 2 of these were but the rest were basically other initiatives that were highly sensitive and i believe from my own informed opinion would have been highly you know of concern let's see if to the saudis well you knew you knew that what you were doing had the potential to get you in trouble you tweeted if they don't want to kill me then i'm not doing my job is the risk the danger something that you accept as simply being an inherent in what you do it is something that i accept i
mean this is i mean it's not the easiest life but it is the life that i built and it's the life that i chose so let's talk about the period then after jamal khashoggi death in the saudi consulate in istanbul last october you took on along with these who's also been warned at the same time as you he lives in canada that there's another individual who lives in the united states also warned by security services of a threat the 3 of you took on jamal's work and tried to carry it on and that's what brought you into contact with the i was in founder jeff bezos give me a sense of of how events unfolded after june miles death and how they involved your work so the man was very concerned about the state of free expression the main medium of free expression. in the arab world post 2011 was social media particularly twitter i think the nature of twitter. the fact that twitter is this
unfiltered you know there's no algorithm or the algorithm is very light. and the fact that twitter became very very popular in saudi arabia i think saudi arabia and certain and certain. certain surveys tops the world when it comes to an attrition rate went up supporter. jamal himself was a twitter influencer as you know i mean he had i think 1600000 for something like that as we saw a 1000000 followers i mean i'm nowhere near his influence on twitter i mean under that keep in mind also that he's influential in the arabic language which is the language that for safety i avoided even though i enjoy speaking i mean and communicating in arabic it just happens that there were far more aggressive with arabic speakers because they wanted to control the arabic public sphere ok so you identify twitter as the sort of main battleground it was the main battleground the main i mean i remember as far back as 2011 someone called twitter the parliament of the arabs it is where arabs go to express their opinion it is where arabs go to to
get informed. likely exactly so take me on. in how you went about picking up where jamal left off trying to finish what it was he'd started. you might be aware of the project that omar abdel aziz was working on and of course is a project that was structured in association was about actually. and the idea behind it is you know these guys the saudi regime they weaponize twitter they manipulate the media they manipulate the platform in order to do really dark things and to just to fight really dark things why don't we do the same but in the in the opposite direction in other words why don't we also manipulate twitter to push our own narratives which are basically you know pro freedom pro pro freedom of expression pro-human rights etc. so that was one line of attack and i would i would mention here that i have a certain philosophical difference let's say with this approach of course i was not
involved in that project at all but i have this philosophical difference because i think maybe fighting fire with fire is not the best strategy because they simply have so much more fire. the 2nd approach i mean there's 3 approaches i prefer not to mention the 3rd approach at least for the meanwhile because it's very much a work in progress and it's highly sensitive and it's starting to bear fruit. but i would mention the 2nd one with the 2nd one basically was. jamal's desire to create. what we eventually came to describe as an arab state media watchdog so he actually gave me a call i believe it was if i'm not mistaken it was august 7th. and this was after after we had communicated about the 3rd project after i had made
some connections that he needed. but in that conversation he he summarized the idea he said you know these guys push a lot of propaganda a lot of it is outrageous and a lot of it they get away with it because they say it in the arabic language and there isn't enough awareness in the world that you know this is actually happening so he's like why don't we create this project that actually exposes the so what they do is that they segment the audience so they send a message in english there's another message in arabic why don't we cross translate so that people can see that this is what's happening and we can actually keep an eye a spotlight on their propaganda efforts what they're doing what they're saying etc and he said like some some of it would be funny. in a dark kind of way like like look how you know ridiculous the serbs and some of it would be incredibly important incredibly important for you know for understanding you know these regimes and of course he talked about this not only to me but also
to the 3rd unnamed. person in the united states in the united states and of course i understood from my comment like from my subsequent you know work on this i understood that twitter is an integral part of such a project so it wasn't it doesn't have to be simply t.v. and press twitter is an enormous it's actually the primary propaganda tool for you know when it comes to saudi arabia. to spend a lot of time a lot of money and they actually spilled a lot of blood to maintain to create that kind of control which actually they're very proud of and we have a lot of evidence that the very proud of their degree of control that they have over arabic twitter what do you mean they spilled a lot of blood i mean that there are people and i mean i can't mention names here but i think soon enough this this will be this this will come out 1st of all a lot of the people who were arrested as early as september 27th teen. of course they had a crossfire as intellectuals some of the more scholars and so troubled i think it's
also important to note that they're also. or twitter influencers in fact we tabulated i mean. if we can you are talking about the saudi authorities decided 30 killing people who had become influential on twitter i mean some i was one of them but there were there were there are cases that were aware of people who were tortured to death and not to going to diem's but tortured to death and we cannot find anything that they were doing other than twitter and this is evidence backed. unfortunately yes and we don't have as i mentioned we don't we don't want to reveal the names yet you know until we have something official we're expecting that maybe there will be an official. college went off of this at some point but there has been reporting on it ok so twitter is your battle ground in which you and people like you operate to counter the problem gander of regimes among them saudi arabia.
jamal khashoggi is killed you and 2 others take on projects that you were working with together. bring me then up to the point where you working with jeff bezos and you begin to feel vulnerable. yes so the general idea or the general methodology. off the 2nd project is something that we had an idea about what would we never had a tar like we never tried it out in a real life investigation. this of course kind of changed when the business blackmail scandal became public the founder of amazon so the founder of amazon and also interestingly importantly the owner of the washington post owner of the employ of the sort of his phone was tapped allegedly. embarrassing tweets e-mails it's off its means mainly you know pictures and messages that were lifted
off his phone. and i i mean i don't want to get into details that probably i should not mention i mean there's a lot i know about the case that that i should not be. i should not be speaking publicly about them. but the short story here is that. after the murder of washington post journalist i was in a bit of a bind because this is a man who has has extensive business interests in saudi arabia he had by then a personal relationship with m.p.'s had met him several times yes. but he was also the owner of the washington post and m.b.'s just killed one of his journalists. and he was in this kind of situation where it was clear it was it became clear to us even even more you know with the investigation that m.p.'s expected basis to side with him over the washington post and to say you know you know my business comes
1st. and you know i have this personal relationship with this man and he expected him to curb the washington post coverage. that of course not happen and jeff bezos basically when he bought the washington post and 2013 he had a good faith agreement that i'm not going to interfere in editorial policy at all i'm not going to enter that room and he ordered that and this was something sadly this was something exactly this was something that m.b.'s so as betrayal and so you were called in to help identify the source of the leaks my role was basically aiding the investigation team in. first of all exposing the degree and the the the saudi campaigns against jeff bezos. but also the timing of a lot of these things that happened. and of course it fell upon as if this was an investigation team to actually go in and find out exactly what happened and it was
conclusion. that was there i mean according i mean to quote them to paraphrase they concluded with a high degree of certainty that's what that's that's according to them that the saudis had access to. so there's a lot of work going on here. on your behalf. and the other individuals in the united states following on from jamal's who are aiming to point the figure finger not just at the saudi authorities but n.b.s. himself the crown prince himself one thing that seems to be lacking in indeed also lacking in pointing the finger at n.b.s. in the death of jamal khashoggi he's. categorical undeniable evidence direct evidence he's in of all of us yet you take it as read you speak as though it is a fact based. thing. if there is no direct evidence mustn't you and others accept that there is the possibility that n.b.s.
in fact did not have any direct role or knowledge that's that's really these things i mean that's that's a really interesting question i mean some people misunderstand circumstantial evidence so that the actual idea of circumstantial evidence i mean if i walk out if i'm out in outside and you're sitting inside and i walk in and i have you can see that i'm wet you can assume that it was raining outside and i have an umbrella for example you can assume that it was raining but that was not direct evidence is circumstantial it doesn't mean that it's weak evidence it simply means that it's not direct in a case of as they said before a highly pick regime which has control over information it is very rare that you will actually find direct evidence maybe it could be years before you find direct evidence and this is something they know and this is something the they use to as i said you know drum loops around us really i mean they can't they can basically be months or running years ahead of us. which unfortunately in many cases they have they have been i would point out however that in
a country like saudi arabia with which is ruled by an absolute monarch and he's and he's absolutely probably i don't think there's another country in the world in which. one person. has such direct control over everything in the state it is simply impossible to think that. such such a thing as a miles murder could have been done without his knowledge and this was in fact the conclusion of the cia to a medium to high level of probability absolutely with i mean what are the argument the use that it is it is almost impossible for something like this to happen without his knowledge and yet all of this said and with all the cumulative work that you and others continue to do. it remains an unassailable fact that m.b.a.'s at this point mom have been summoned the crown prince retains the.
support of president trump. the banks and the investors who pulled away from saudi arabia very publicly in the months following jamal's murder have trickled back there are simply too much money there for them not to the spotlight shifts inexorably to saudi arabia's iran in the arab world. and so it is unlikely or seems unlikely that n.b.s. is ever going to go the way of the. mubarak's or the good office or the omar of the shoes of this world is that true do you think i mean i think that the chances of a popular uprising in saudi arabia is not as as you mentioned is not. doesn't have a history of popular uprisings but then again i mean libya for example didn't have on. syria until recent recently i mean didn't have one. so i would caution against you know being complacent about about you know
what is that point at which the people simply say enough however i completely agree with you and everything else the fact that. the administration in the in this world that is most capable of reining in m.b.'s is currently his biggest enabler i'm talking about trump but also importantly jarrett questioner. i mean my own sources indicate that u.s. institutions including intel including you know congress obviously are very much aware that n.b.s. is bad news but then there's the other angle which is that saudi arabia is verifiable absolutely an important country it will continue to be an important country so this presents a very interesting policy really to the world which is that we need saudi arabia. it's an interesting market it's also an important country for strategic reasons dynamic young population you know traumatized probably after after the recent events but still important but then we also have this guy who is bad news what do
we do about it i mean this is this is absolutely a conundrum your current situation at the moment under threat you're aware of a threat how do you proceed now undeterred or cautiously. well on the one hand it's clear i mean the fact that there's been this threat and you mentioned you quoted me earlier saying you know if they don't want to kill me then i'm not doing my job. in a way when they come after you that's when you know that you're being effective you know that you hit a nerve in other words. you know that the of course again i mean they went after a lot of people that were a lot more accessible to them such as people who are living in saudi arabia and these people of course. you know i have the highest respect for their courage but also the biggest the most concern for their safety and. but knowing that you have a certain effectiveness that would prompt them to try to deter you to stop you
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no invite for the palestinians and they say they wouldn't attend a u.s. led conference on their future even if they were asked. google cuts ties the chinese found john to walk away which washington considers a national security threat. welcome home to the democratic republic of congo but not everyone's happy to see a popular politician returning from exile. we begin with the escalating war of words between iran and the united states tyrone has hit back at president trump's latest threat to wipe it out the foreign minister javad zarif says iran won't be intimidated by quote genocidal taunts lots after donald trump tweeted if iran wants to fight it'll be the end of the country he later said he would prefer an economic invasion saudi arabia iran's regional rival has been calling for dialogue after weeks of growing tension more.
u.s. warships sailing in the arabian sea these the latest pictures showing additional u.s. military personnel deployed to the region and move to counter what the u.s. says thrifts from iran the tensions are also eskin they sing on twitter donald trump wrote if iran wants to fight that will be the official end of iran never threatened the united states again. to iran has described the rates of psychological warfare and a political iran's foreign minister mohammad javad zarif tweeted trump hopes to achieve what alexander guess in other graces failed to do iranians have stood tall for millennia well a graces all gone economic terrorism and genocide taunts word in duran try respects it works it's been mixed messages out of the white house and a prerecorded interview on fox news trump said he preferred an economic war over
a military one i want to give i have to economically we've created a much stronger country economically than when i took it over and on thursday he said this. we have that where that hopefully would not get out. and if we did that would serve the hell of a lot more troops than that but i think it's just where was that story in the new york for the new york times this fake. saudi arabia's king selman has called for 2 emergency summit some valving gulf and arab leaders later this month to discuss. but analysts say talking won't work for tehran which wants the u.s. to stick to the iran nuclear deal or j.c. p. away i really doubt that the iranians are going to engage in any diplomacy until at least trump fires bolton and starts to abide by the g.c. if you wait because if the idea is to go to the table with this extra leverage that
truck now believe you 3 has because of the sanctions while the iranians are not going to go to the table without them 1st also building some leverage would most likely would mean that they would restart other aspects of their nuclear program is not a good scenario for anyone iran u.s. relations has a new lawyer last year pulled out of the 2015 agreement embry imposed sanctions they had been lifted in exchange for tehran scaling back its nuclear program now under u.s. led sanctions iran is suffering economically and wondering what trumps true intentions really are. let's bring in ali foretold in the job he's a visiting fellow at the brookings doha center and joins us live now from berlin to be getting these mixed messages from the white house president from 1st saying look he didn't want a war with iran then saying well look if iran wants to fight it'll be the end of the country meanwhile we now are seeing this social media war on twitter. well what we've been witnessing over the past few days and weeks is from both sides
from the iranian and the american side a kind of high wire act of brinkmanship so both sides were very much keen to show to the other side what kind of severe costs a military confrontation would have sort of the iranians have made sure that by revitalizing or by stop it stopping some of its commitments under the j c p o a . and potentially revitalising some of its nuclear program after 60 days there will increase their leverage the united states and the united states on the other hand has also shown by a kind of military build up although it was planned but it was a rhetorical he quite hyped up by the u.s. administration that iran will also suffer a severe costs if. a large scale military confrontation will happen yeah and iran
has dismissed president trump threats as genocidal taunts i mean terror and of course wants to appear tough but how worried is iran under the surface at the moment about the threat of a real conflict. well i think for both sides for the u.s. and iranian side they are not interested in in any kind of large scale war whose consequences neither side can calculate nor handle so i think all of that is designed to. show to the other side the costs associated with it but potentially we've seen also some kind of outreach from the iranian side when foreign ministers or you travel to the united states a few weeks ago and try to reach out to president trump so maybe all of that is a precursor to any kind of negotiations between the 2 sides but what we need right . now is actually a lot of restraint from all sides concerned ok because although this might be
a calculated act of brinkmanship nevertheless there is a you know risky element to that ok what about regional players like saudi arabia israel who would love to see the us bring terror on to its knees i mean saudi arabia has called 2 emergency meetings to discuss these escalating tensions but there's so much disunity among gulf arab states will anything be achieved. well that's true we still have disunity within the g.c.c. but i think that north saudi arabia neither you know the emirates are interested also in a wide range conflict military conflict with iran and. also signal start from you know the persian gulf security is quite fragile. so i think everyone is now you know should should more or less be committed to restraint ok so just a final thought then so what would it take then to deescalate tensions between both
sides in the past trump has said he would talk to iran without any preconditions so is there like this and i that will see both sides deescalate this and start talking . well this is this is one of the scenarios another scenario which would be of course fall is some kind of a smaller scale confrontation. and there are hardliners both in iran and the united states who might want to benefit from some kind of a low scale military confrontation but i think what we need now is a mid term thinking beyond the immediate you know war of words between the 2 sides that what we really need in this region is a comprehensive security arrangement that involves all players. thank you very much for your insight. now palestinians are going to take part in a conference about their future organized by donald trump's son in law jared
cushion is expected to unveil the u.s. president's long awaited blueprint for palestine in israel in bahrain next month the events expected to raise tens of billions of dollars for investment in the occupied west bank and gaza while the palestinian prime minister says they haven't been consulted about the conference tire says any u.s. plan would probably favor israel and be financial blackmail for the palestinians where you are. the cabinet stresses that it wasn't consulted about the reported workshop and neither about the content nor the outcome and or the timing of it clarifies that the financial crisis that the palestinian national authority is living through today is a result of the financial war that is being waged against us in order to win political concessions we do not submit to blackmail and we do not trade our political rights for money well i don't know is an executive committee member of the palestine liberation organization c she says talks won't succeed while the rights of palestinians are undermined. this is not
a peace plan so i can't be rejecting a peace plan that i haven't seen and this is just a workshop as a set and workshop and a canonical workshop in which they can bring israel to meet with the arab world and with the whole region and with private sector in order to invest in the west bank and gaza the 2nd is not a peace plan it is something that the question or thought of as a businessman i don't know how successful he is and that's another way up again and of maintaining a sense of control over our land that resources let's not talk about who's rejecting what the americans who have rejected the things so quite a lot of the agreements to the basic requirements of the components of a viable peace process. if you want a proper handle on the region you can start. by taking unilateral steps like recognizing jerusalem as capital of israel or undermining refugee rights or refugee institutions and organizations refusing to talk about succulents as illegal
refusing a 2 state solution the 67 borders that all that the undermined all the basic issues and now they're saying let's carry out cosmetic changes we can make the prison cell of the palestinians a bit more pleasant less unpleasant this is at a lack of understanding of the issue of the region. says the economic plan will be followed by a vision on the core political issues previous talks focused on jerusalem refugees settlements borders and security but palestinians cut off talks in 2017 after the us recognized jerusalem as the capital of israel palestinians want an independent state based on borders before the 967 war with east jerusalem as its capital and that would mean an end to the occupation in the west bank and gaza but israel has kept up construction of settlements that let's bring in how the armor he's a former u.s. diplomat who was deputy special envoy for israeli palestinian negotiations under
the obama administration joins us live from washington d.c. heidi good to have you back on the program the palestinians have already said they won't be attending this conference does that mean deal now is dead on arrival i mean it's certainly a business approach but many observers say it's not even lacks real understanding of the region what do you think look i mean in one sense i feel for trauma's team. they're in a tough position but in. another sense look what the palestinians need is not so much. economic help they need help in terms of sovereignty they need help in terms of freedom that's where the absence is that there's a freedom and sovereignty gap not a gap in. in the economy so that's right you know this is a workshop they're going to try to unveil economic investments in the west bank in gaza but again palestine could thrive if it had freedom and saw.