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this is bbc news. i'm reeta chakrabarti. the headlines at 10:00: there are unconfirmed reports from italy that the main suspect in the berlin lorry attack, anis amri, has been shot dead in milan. in germany, two men are arrested of another terror plot, a plan to attack a shopping centre. in australia, police say they've foiled a terror attack planned for melbourne on christmas day. another serious prison disturbance, as 60 inmates take over a wing of hmp swaleside. one of the world's biggest banks — deutsche bank — agrees to pay over seven billion dollars over its role in the financial crisis. and in the next hour, we'll tell you what to expect when storm barbara hits the uk. storm barbara battering the north today, but the effect will be felt a little bit further south, too. stay tuned for the forecasts. and as well as the weather, the details on the travel disruption
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that's expected over the christmas period. good morning and welcome to bbc news. in the last half hour, we have had unconfirmed reports that anis amri, the man believed to be the suspect in the berlin christmas market truck attack, has been killed in a shoot—out in the northern italian city of milan. lacko we have been told the german federal prosecutor is in touch with his counterparts. italy's interior minister is to hold a press conference within the hour. meanwhile, police in germany and australia have foiled two terrorist plots overnight.
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the authorities in australia say they've prevented an attack in the city of melbourne that targeted prominent landmarks, possibly planned for christmas day. five people have been detained after a series of raids in which explosives were discovered. in west germany: two men have been arrested on suspicion of planning an attack on a shopping centre in 0berhausen near the dutch border. the italian interior minister is holding a press conference in rome. we will bring you thatjust as soon as we can do, we expect the italian interior minister to give us more details. there are details that the tunisian man, the main suspect in the berlin christian market attack anis amri was shot dead in police in milan after being asked for id papers early in the morning outside a train station. we will be going
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straight back to that a news conference as soon as we see the interior ministry representative speaking. for now, our correspondent is in berlin. a lot of information coming out, including that the german authorities had been in touch with their italian counterparts. and as we were saying, anis amri could have been anywhere in europe. there we re have been anywhere in europe. there were sightings supposedly in denmark. but now it appears he went to italy. yes, we are getting a lot of media reports out of italy suggesting that he was killed in the shoot out on the edge of milan this morning. apparently in some sort of routine check, he was asked apparently, according to media reports, to show his ide. there was a shoot out. one police officer was reportedly injured. the italian news
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agency is reporting that the fingerprints of the person shot in milan to match the fingerprints of anis amri. but as i say, we're waiting for the official confirmation from the italian interior minister so that will bring more light on this incident this morning. i should explain that the pictures we can see, they are of the aftermath of the incident in milan. and we are told there was a shoot out between the berlin market suspect anis amri and police. that area was outside a train station in the milan district. i suppose there is one drama potentially about to be concluded in germany, but that is
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the other arrest in 0berhausen, which suggests germany remains on higher law. yes, we had the news early this morning that police had arrested two men, both born in kosovo. .. i am arrested two men, both born in kosovo... i am going arrested two men, both born in kosovo. .. i am going to stop you, we can go to their press conference in rome and to the italian interior minister. translation:
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very well. this night, at three in the morning, at sesto san giovanni, in milan, during a normal patrol of oui’ in milan, during a normal patrol of our police officers, one of our police officers on patrol stopped a person who looked very suspect, who was just walking around looking very suspect. and the moment he was stopped, the man, without hesitating, he immediately took his gun and shot. he shot... you shot at the police officer who asked him for
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his identification papers. the police officer, immediately the police officer, immediately the police on patrol reacted to the shoot out. luckily, our police officer was not shot fatally and he is now in hospital recovering. the police officers reacted to the shoot out. the person who attacked our police officer was killed. the police officer was killed. the police officers on patrol... the person who was killed... there is
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absolutely no doubt that the person who was killed was anis amri. the suspect of the attack, the terrorist attack in berlin. i had the chance to speak personally with the police officer. i told to speak personally with the police officer. itold him to speak personally with the police officer. i told him that i hope he gets better soon. the boy is very motivated, he is a extraordinary person. i thanked motivated, he is a extraordinary person. ithanked him motivated, he is a extraordinary person. i thanked him for the professionalism that he demonstrated. for the professionalism that him alongside his colleague had demonstrated. we are talking about an operation that happened at three o'clock in the
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morning. in the middle of a really important city centre, and it happened in complete security. the only problem was for the police officer who was shot, no one else was injured. i gave him... i said thank you to him, on behalf of me and of the whole of the italian interior ministry, and of the entire italian police. i said, interior ministry, and of the entire italian police. isaid, i hope interior ministry, and of the entire italian police. i said, i hope he gets better soon. and in the next few days, i will be going to visit him. andi few days, i will be going to visit him. and i said to him, happy christmas. and i said also that
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thanks to people like him, the italians can have a very happy christmas. and let me tell you at the end, i would like to thank the whole of the security of our country. italy should be really proud of our security. and i am repeating... really proud. next to me, as well as the chief of police, there is a chief of the carabinieri and of the finance. i want to thank
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them from the bottom of my heart for their hard work and that they managed to do this with such great cooperation. and it is such a high—quality and high level of security. and as soon as this person entered our country, he is the most wanted, he was the most wanted man in europe, and we immediately identified him and neutralised him. this means that our security is working really well. i want to thank eve ryo ne working really well. i want to thank everyone who are on the streets. everyone who are on the streets in these hours. armed forces, our police. because it is not easy, with
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all the terrorist threat that we have, it is not easy guaranteeing the kind of security that we have, but i can guarantee that we do everything we can. i am not going to enter into the details of the operation because there are some happening now. but we are collaborating with the federal prosecution office. so we will not enter into details and you will understand while de shuai. you will understand while de shuai. you will understand why we cannot go into the details of the operations. we have let the german federal prosecution office know. we have told the police forces and the authorities. and let
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me tell you that i am entirely satisfied with how the operation went. these people in our police forces, they are exceptional. the police officer who was shot is so young. and he isjust doing hisjob. yet he did an extraordinary service to the community, both him and the driver. i sincerely think this. and i think that the whole country will agree with me and they will want to tell these two policemen, thank you so much for what you have done. well, the italian interior minister marco minghetti confirming what the
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sources have been saying, that anis amri, the tunisian suspect in the berlin market attack, has been shot bya berlin market attack, has been shot by a police officer in milan. let's go back to our correspondent in berlin. what is so striking in that he appears to have been found by chance during a normal police check. the interior minister was saying that it happened at 3am. it was a regular police patrol, they did a check on somebody that looked suspicious and the interior minister was describing how when the man was asked for his id he immediately took his gun. there was an exchange of fire and the italian police officer was injured. in the exchange of fire, anis amri was shot dead. the interior minister was full of praise for the way the police officer had
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handled the case. he said it was a young police officer, he is now recovering in hospital. there is no doubt, he said, that the suspect is anis amri. we understand that fingerprints match up. now they are in contact, they have left the german federal prosecutor office know the latest of what happened in italy. we have no sense that the italian authorities had been in touch with the german authorities prior to this happening? no, all indications were that this was a random police patrol on a suspicious looking person at 3am in the morning. 0ne looking person at 3am in the morning. one of the interesting things that came out of that press briefing just now was that the minister said that he could not give too many details because there were operations ongoing. he said, you
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will understand why we can't say too much at the moment. a sense that things are... i don't know whether it was to do with prosecutions, but certainly the police in italy, in germany, they are still continuing to work extremely hard to figure out exactly what happened, how this man may have got to milan. i am sure we will hear more in the coming hours as to how this took place. indeed. we will leave it there for the moment. we will hear much more from you over the course of the morning. let me bring in angus crawford, here with me in the studio. many things we do not know about what happened. we do know, from what we know about anis amri, that he spent time in italy, he was in prison in italy, interesting that he went back there? a really interesting aspect, out of the conference there are two key issues. one, how did he, in what was the biggest manhunt in recent german
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history, how did this man, whose picture was all across the newspapers, all across the media, how did he manage to get to milan in the first place? that is extraordinary. we know that he visited a local mosque in berlin, at about 4am the morning after the attack. cctv footage came out that. soon after that, german authorities became clear this was a man that they needed to talk to. he somehow managed to travel all the way to milan. as we have heard, this was not a coordinated operation to arrest or apprehend him. this was a chance meeting a patrol of ordinary police officers in the street. they got very lucky. so we need to know how he got there. not necessarily a surprise he ended up in italy. as you pointed out, he went to italy in 2011, he knows the country well. he was imprisoned in italy for about four years before being released last year and going to germany. that isa last year and going to germany. that is a key issue. how did he get there? as bethany said, the other
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question that we have to ask, raised by that conference, is why they will not talk about the operation more fully. what is the issue for that? are there other people involved in this investigation? is there a wider network that possibly supported him and helped him get to where he was, as we found out in nice, after the truck attack, there were multiple arrests after the attack because it appeared that the attack in that situation had supporters. these are two key questions for the authorities. how did he get to milan and what are the other ongoing investigations? the ongoing investigations? the ongoing investigations are part of the conversation that the italian authorities are having with the german authorities? german authorities did not figure much in the statement by the italian minister? not at all. from what we are seeing, i think this is a crucial moment, a very important moment. the interior minister talked about his great pride in what had happened. he praised the police and he said it shows europe that we have
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effective mechanisms to identify and neutralise these people. but they have to admit that they got lucky. this was a routine check on an individual that they said looked suspicious. they did not know it was him. yes, this conversation has to continue and will continue. it seems to me that this is where the avenue has to go. it is towards seeing what support network, if any, was behind this man. we will be coming back to you very shortly. we can nowjoin an italian reporter. thank you for joining us this morning. were you at the press conference given by the interior minister? yes, good morning, wejust finished interior minister? yes, good morning, we just finished listening to minister marco minniti, very new in charge. he was telling the story of what happened last night, not far
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from the central quarter in milan. as you said, it was a moment of chance, a routine patrol on the outskirts area of the city. immediately, the minister confirmed that the man was stopped for a routine patrol, he used his gun and opened fire against the police, the two police guys that were checking, ona two police guys that were checking, on a normal night shift. yes, he said that there was capacity to respond quickly to the fire and neutralise and killed the suspect, the terrorist. so, we had some information about how he came to milan, as we learned in the past, this person already knew the italian
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tracks, let's say, because he was coming from northern africa, to the south of italy, making his way north. he was probably moving in an environment that he knew very well. the information we have now is that he came by train, he came by train to turin, and then to milan. what was he doing on the outskirts of milan? this is the big question today, i mean now. he was trying to hide ina today, i mean now. he was trying to hide in a specific area? of course, we are talking about big cities. usually big cities offer contacts and the possibility to hide. are you suggesting that anis amri might have been heading to meet some people? well, that wouldn't be... i mean,
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i'm not suggesting, i am considering the fact that if you come from milan and go south, whether you go back to your own nation, which is tunisia, but that is not the direction unless you think you will pass a port to go to tunisia. where are you going? 0f course, the milan area, more than 4 million people and a lot of possible contacts. yes, i would not be that surprised. presumably, this is what the minister, the interior minister had in mind when he said he would not enter into details of the operation and that the italian government is cooperating with federal prosecutors in germany, that there are more details to emerge,
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ongoing investigations about which we are not able to learn? well, absolutely. i am sure the exchange of information has been growing and growing. unfortunately, in the last year, growing. unfortunately, in the last yea r, after growing. unfortunately, in the last year, after the attacks in london, madrid and in more recent times, that would have not been surprising. of course, the connections of these militants, islamists and terrorists, they don't stop at the classic frontiers. yes, this is an option. probably some news will come in the next few hours. interesting what you said about information you have, that he went from germany to turin anelka the journey from there to milan. presumably, his face has been
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all over the media in italy, as it has everywhere else. the question must be, how did he manage to travel that distance without being stopped? well, the information is, i think, serious. but it still has to be confirmed by fact. as you know very well, in this kind of event, you often have to adapt and change what information was in the first moment. his face was everywhere on the italian media this morning. as you know, he was coming from north africa, through italy, through that lane. he was very well known. there are many questions on how, from there, he could have travelled the
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long—distance, about 1100 kilometres, in order to reach milan. but, yes, this is part of the question, and there are still many today. 0k, very good to talk to you. thank you very much forjoining us this morning. i have with me angus crawford, in the studio. saying there that according to his sources, anis amri took a train to turin and went from there to milan. i asked the same question of you, the same asked of him, how was he able to travel that distance? it is like a jigsaw puzzle slowly coming together. there was a delay at the beginning of the investigation. we know that the wrong man was arrested. he was somebody seen in the vicinity, he was chased down by a brave bystander, but it turned out he was not involved in the attack.
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ina sense, he was not involved in the attack. in a sense, it kept the police one step behind, maybe 2a hours behind. it left this man free to travel through whichever means we think he did, we believe he took a train from germany into italy. first goes to turin, a big industrial city, quite easy to hide. if you think about when we began to see his picture on the front pages of the newspapers, in the media, that was only yesterday or the day before. you can imagine that until that picture was widely out there, people did not know exactly what he looked like. you can imagine, with the fact he got a you can imagine, with the fact he gota train you can imagine, with the fact he got a train to the extreme, we believe, he moved on to a city of 4 million people, milan, a big city. we don't know exactly how well he knew the city, but we know that he knew the city, but we know that he knew italy. he had been there in 2011. he served a long prison sentence and then moved out of italy. what we are seeing here is a jigsaw puzzle of information coming together. who knows what he was
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doing in milan? this possibly speaks to what the interior minister was saying about investigation is continuing, they can't talk too much about where they go now. it could be that he was looking for other members of a network, he could be looking for informal support, it could be he was trying to cross the country to get out of the country. in the hours that come, we need to know these two really important questions. how did he manage to get to italy and who was he trying to meet, or was he trying to leave the country? two key questions we need answering. we might get some more information. i should tell you that there is a press conference that is imminent in berlin, a government press co nfe re nce imminent in berlin, a government press conference in which they are likely to respond to the information that we have heard from rome, to talk about the manhunt for anis amri. then there is the news from rome that he was killed in a police shoot out in milan. briefly, there is the intriguing information given by the italian minister about the
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operation that is ongoing, that they are cooperating with the german federal prosecution office. i suppose that refers to what you are saying, was he part of a network? that has to dee the wider question. after the nice attack, using a truck, the time, people are talking about a lone wolf, but as the investigation widened, there were multiple arrests. some people had possibly given him somewhere to stay, but they were not aware of the nature of what he was going to do. it is always possible and likely that this man had supporters and wa nted that this man had supporters and wanted to help them, they might not have known what he was planning, but it is vital, in the run—up to christmas and beyond, that they apprehend anybody that may have known what he was going to do what might have been involved in potential, and we don't know this, it is just speculation, then they have been potential for further attacks in europe. clearly, that has
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to be the primary line of investigation. arrest anybody who may have supported him, arrest anybody who may have been involved in any future action with him. in the meantime, there have been separate arrests to the west of the country, so clearly the whole country, so clearly the whole country of germany is on tenterhooks. on very high alert. it is interesting, what the interior ministry was talking about. he was clear this was the most wanted man in europe and the italian authority succeeded, as he said, in identifying and neutralising him. 0ne identifying and neutralising him. one has to say they also seem to have a measure of luck. this was a routine patrol that stop this man because he looked suspicious. as far as they can tell, they did not stop him because they knew who he was. it shows that routine patrols can be successful. good morning to our viewers
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across the world who are joining us. big breaking news from the italian interior ministry. an italian officer has shot dead the main suspect in the berlin christmas attack. that news from marco minniti i attack. that news from marco minniti , the italian interior minister, who said that at 3am this morning, on a routine patrol, a police officer stopped anis amri for id papers, there was a shoot out in which the police officer was injured and anis amri was killed. the interior minister said there was no doubt it was indeed anis amri and he said they were cooperating with the german federal authorities. i should tell you there is a news conference going on in berlin and it is
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starting just now. the events are still a work in progress, i ask you for patients. i would like to say something from a part of the virtual interior ministry, we have not had a firm confirmation from the italian authorities which was sent to us, but the italian colleagues from the criminal office there, they have confirmed that the person who we believe is a very strong suspect to have committed the attack in berlin is actually the person who was shot in milan. this is of course not yet confirmed officially, i would like to ask you for your patience, just like my colleague. but the indications would be pointing towards the person being the
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attacker. if the events confirmed, then of course the interior ministry will be relieved because the person will be relieved because the person will no longer pose a public threat. we are very grateful to the italian authorities, to the very close and confidential flow of information in the course of this morning. notjust as regards the events that my colleague has just been as regards the events that my colleague hasjust been pointing out, but also our colleagues in the general consulate in milan, they we re general consulate in milan, they were informed very early and very confidentially as to the events of this morning. there were direct contacts with the consul general and also a police president and we are very grateful to the italian authorities. do you have any information as to how the suspect was able to arrive
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in milan? are you thinking of perhaps establishing a kosher knit control at border points —— close in net control at border points? as to the security measures in particular after the attack in berlin in which security measures were taken, for operative reasons, i cannot give you any details on that because the investigation would be under threat ifi investigation would be under threat if i were to elucidate on that. i is give for your understanding. but obviously, i can tell you that we are doing more security checks at border points. as to the travel itinerary, i would also like to ask you for your understanding, that is a matter of investigation undertaken by the federal prosecutors office and that is not information i can
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diebold. which border posts will be controlled more intensely? —— i can diebold touch. which efforts have you taken? you can assume that all of the authorities in the federal authorities in the federal authorities and also in the regional authorities, all security and safety measures will be investigated, no stone will be on turned —— left unturned, some security measures will have to be ramped up. that is obvious. the security measures were generally and generically increased andi generally and generically increased and i think the minister has already confirmed that. next, please. the same applies here. the same with
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the question of your colleague. i cannot give you any details on that, iam cannot give you any details on that, i am sorry. next, please. the question that a lot of people ask themselves and the authorities is, where were the weak points? how was it possible that the suspect could remain free, despite the number of suspicions, also the
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suspicion that he might be a terrorist. do you see any weak points in the course of events and also in the security network? again, this is far too early, the investigation is still ongoing. it is obvious that it is standard of political and police work, given the terrible attack in berlin, but afterwards, you need is to turn each and every stone to see and investigate as to where the security measures can be improved and perfected. when the interior minister was saying that perhaps there might be weak or consequences, but obviously, it is far too early and the dead bodies still not buried as far as and the dead bodies still not buried as farasi and the dead bodies still not buried as far as i know. but that does not necessarily mean to say that there will not be any consequences in generic terms that will be the
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result or the consequence of all the investigation and the work, and the work is being undertaken in a magnificent and very, very good manner. but of course, we have to ask ourselves, can we not improve the measures? if you turn back your memory to the summer and the events in munich, in and is burqa, in wu rzburg, in munich, in and is burqa, in wurzburg, you in munich, in and is burqa, in wu rzburg, you can in munich, in and is burqa, in wurzburg, you can remember that over a period of time, the interior minister approached the media, approached the press, telling about measures that have already been implemented, so this is notjust paying lip service, they are concrete and implemented measures. we need to be careful and we need to be cautious, but also speedy to implement these measures, but that is dependent on the investigation results. mrs muller, please.
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who has been officially informed in germany from italy and by italy? question but two, were you totally surprised that the suspect turned up in italy, or did you have any prior indication that he might turn up in italy? perhaps i can take the first part of the question. the information that we have available is that there were german federal criminal police officers based in italy and they we re officers based in italy and they were informed. the session —— the second question on the surprise element, i understand why you are interested in that, but to give you a sensible answer to this, i would have to have available interim
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results, but the interim results would not go to me, but they will go to my colleagues from the federal criminal office and i ask you for your understanding. i also cannot confirm the death of anis amri. that is the task of the italian authorities and that is something they seem to have done already. and the information they need to come from the italian authorities, as far as i am concerned, i have to ask, i have to thank the italian authorities for the very close and useful and confidential flow of information. also with the german foreign representations, in rome, as well as milan. ican representations, in rome, as well as milan. i can also confirm that the federal government is in close contact with the italian authorities, but we do not as yet have official confirmation. and the
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federal prosecutor has not confirmed the news either. are we talking about the same officer who has been liaising with the italian authorities? is it the same contact officer? yes. in many german foreign representations, also in rome, we have a contract officer and these office rs have a contract officer and these officers normally officers of the criminal office who served in a foreign representation on stewart —— office or embassy to coordinate the liaison, the look —— the coordination. when i was talking about our
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consulate general in milan, that this consulate had a contract with the italian authorities, namely, with the incumbent police president of the milan region, that is something i can confirm. a contract officer, was he sent, given the current events, or is that standard procedure, is he always there? i am not sure whether such an officer would be in place all the time but as regards italy and germany, we would have a standing representative, so we would have a police officer, a liaison officer and also a customs liaison officer always on—site in italy, so that
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person, those persons, were not especially and particularly delegated to italy. can you perhaps confirm or tell as to why the certificate of suspended the deportation was found so late? the same applies here. it seems that you have information as to when that certificate and those documents were found. i don't have that information. but the same applies here. this is part of an ongoing investigation, an investigation that is not undertaken by the interior ministry, but by the federal criminal office and by the prosecution office. it has been reported that the
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federal interior minister confirmed that the documentation was found 12 hours after the attack. and this seems to contradict certain messages. the two additional questions that you pose do not really change the outline of what we are talking about soi outline of what we are talking about so i have no further comment to make. which information, which type of
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information did the german authorities send to their european cou nterpa rts authorities send to their european counterparts in order to make an identification of the suspect beyond any reasonable doubt? in this concrete case as to how the german authorities were informed, well, i have already talked about that. the other question was as to how the suspect was identified, that of course is a question to ask the italian authorities. but normally, this would happen through fingerprinting. that would ascertain a result beyond any reasonable doubt. the appealfor a the appeal for a manhunt the appealfor a manhunt is, that was sent out by the general federal prosecution 0ffice, was sent out by the general federal prosecution office, you have to ask them. inaudible
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translation: perhaps i will start with your last question, i cannot confirm this, because details on the personal data pertaining to mr amri, most likely the offender, all of these cannot be conclusively clarified at this point in time. i cannot give you any concrete information on personal details. as
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to the number of possible threats to public order, we are talking about just under 550 people in germany, who might be a public threat in germany, i don't have the figures in front of me but i will look them up ina front of me but i will look them up in a moment and i will tell you all how many people of those are already in detention. well, it is my responsibility, really. the detention, prior to deportation is a matter of the federal interior ministry. 0nce again, iask federal interior ministry. 0nce again, i ask you for your understanding. the question that you
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asked pertains very much to this particular event here. the question as to whether the suspect could have been taken into detention, that is a question i cannot possibly answer at this point in time, without intervening and obstructing the ongoing investigation. also, the question as to what the suspect was alleged to have committed, i can tell you that the 550 public threats, approximately half of them are in germany. 80 of them are in detention. also, we have a circle of more than 330 people who we call releva nt more than 330 people who we call relevant people. i am not going to reiterate that, but those are people where the information is not quite as concrete, but we need to have them on the radar.
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iam very i am very happy to read out to you with the provisions on detention prior to deportation. such detention needs to happen on the decision made bya needs to happen on the decision made by a judge. i am quoting from the civil procedure code. of course, the person needs to be qualifying for such a deportation. the deportation needs to happen speedily. the period of leave us to have expired. the deportee needs to be able to quote an address in the home country, where he needs to be repatriated. all of these are alternatives. all of them are reasons where there is a
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risk that the detainee might be escaping. these are, effectively, the provisions pertaining to detention prior to deportation. 0ne one question pertains to the exchange with the italian authorities. prior to the events, any possible indications that mr amri was planning something? it is a question that has already been posed. the second question relates to what we have heard, namely that mramri was to what we have heard, namely that mr amri was taken off the radar, the surveillance operation was no longer conducted after september this year.
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but apparently, mr amri was a topic ina but apparently, mr amri was a topic in a meeting held by the interior ministry committee? translation: once again, i might be boring you, but it is effectively a question formulated slightly differently, but this pertains to ongoing investigations. i cannot give you any details of that. inaudible translation: the first question that
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you are asking, well, to give you a precise time window is rather difficult. i am going to stick to my guns, the results need to be analysed first. but if you look at the time period, that it took us to analyse the results in summer, i don't think any concrete proposals will be made this year. after all, the year is coming to an end. you need to change, whatever you want to change, you do that with a certain degree of care and caution. i don't think we are going to see a lot of time expire early in 2017 for particular changes, insofar as they are necessary. the second question,
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as to the federal ministry of interior matters, will it be operational around christmas and the new year? yes. all right, we will leave that press conference there. that is with the government spokesman in berlin, expressing a lot of gratitude to the italian authorities, who we heard earlier in the morning, saying that anis amri was shot and killed during a routine police patrol. he was stopped by police patrol. he was stopped by police officers and was killed in a shoot out in milan, sometime in the early hours of this morning. the germans also talking about how they have increased security checks at border points. i would like to bring in our correspondent angus crawford, who has been following events closely all morning. i thought that
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was very striking, the german speaking about more security checks at border points, exactly what you would expect. we know that anis amri took quite a circuitous route to get took quite a circuitous route to get to italy and out of germany? this is the fascinating thing, we knew that he was in berlin at 4am on tuesday morning. we have now been told he somehow travelled 1200 kilometres, across germany, into france, and we are now told he probably took another training to italy to turin. from there, he took another train to milan. in milan, he walked out of the central station at 1am, he walked across to a busy main square, and he was challenged, by chance, by two police officers on routine patrol. they thought he looked suspicious. when they challenged
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him, we are told he pulled out a pistol and shot one of the officers, while shouting god is great. it appears the other officer returned fire and killed him. we know that he had this extraordinaryjourney across europe that took something like four days, which ended with the shooting in milan this morning, 3am. clearly, there is a serious question to be asked now about how he managed to be asked now about how he managed to travel, we don't know exactly how he travelled, all the way to milan through france, a journey of something like 11100 kilometres across europe. something else that came out this morning is that the italian authorities say they are still investigating, there are other issues they need to investigate before they can talk fully about them. what does that mean? does that mean that he had a support network in germany? does that mean he had a support network in milan that they are still investigating? really significant issues that we need a nswe rs significant issues that we need
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a nswers to. significant issues that we need answers to. one thing to leave you with, which i thought was fascinating, towards the end of the press co nfe re nce , fascinating, towards the end of the press conference, the ministry of interior in germany admitted, they essentially told us about the scale of the problem that faces them. they talked about 330 relevant people, essentially people they suspect of having either terrorist sympathies or being involved in terrorism, present in the country, on their radar, needing surveillance. those are significant numbers they put in front of us today. thank you very much indeed. a fast—moving scene this morning. just to recap for you, we started with a press conference from the italian interior ministry, confirming that the chief suspect in the berlin christmas market attack, anis amri, has been killed in a shoot out with police in milan. we will be bringing you much more throughout the morning, here on bbc news. to stay with us. well, the weather is pretty severe
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across northern parts of the uk at the moment. this is being brought in by storm barbara. we have been forecasting a storm all week. it is making its presence felt across scotland, northern ireland and the north—west of england right now. there are a lot of isobars. this is the pressure chart. when you get them squashed together, you get severe wind. there is a warning from the met office, an amber warning, because they will be severe. gusts of 80, possibly 90 mph. they are capable of causing some problems. we are more used to it in as part of the world, but it is a nasty day. many of us come across western parts, particularly coastal areas, will get gale force wind. the rain will get gale force wind. the rain will sweep through. a really ugly first half of the day. this band of rain will be pushing towards the east and the south—east a little bit
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later on today, with increasing wind. all of us will get at least some rain and some strong wind. inland is nowhere near as nasty as it will be across scotland. a scottish storm, for most of us it is just a glancing blow. pretty chilly, clear skies in the south. this is christmas eve. a lot of isobars again. a lot of them squished together. that means strong gales blowing out of the atlantic ocean. there will be cold air here as well. that means of the showers in the north will be wintry. to the south, the weather is not bad at all. sunshine for birmingham, norwich and london. for the north—west, the cloud will be increasing again, in advance of another storm. it will bring gales, particularly towards northern areas. the other story about this weather system, you can just about see it behind me, it is pushing a lot of mild air in our direction. it is going to be a very mild christmas day itself. very
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windy, but very mild. here it is, as it pushes through on christmas day. lots of isobars, that is the story of the weather maps. gales pushing through. the strongest are across the northern part of the country. look at these temperatures. 1a, maybe 15 degrees across the south, 12 in the north. however, later on christmas day there is a chance that, once the gales is a little bit, we will start to see colder air coming into parts of scotland. for some of us, christmas day might be a white christmas. rain across northern parts of the uk. that's it from me, thanks for watching. you are watching bbc news. we are live at a press conference in italy. more reaction to the shooting of the main suspect in the berlin lorry attack. we are looking at employment, the zone is hit by the earthquake. more than anything, we
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are also looking at security measures. we are looking at all of these different fronts. security and cohesion. they must go hand—in—hand. a country just let cohesion. they must go hand—in—hand. a countryjust let go is a country less secure. we should have learned this lesson by now. it is a lesson that we really do, that is really important that we hang on to win these days and these hours. today, i would like to remember the victims of the christmas market attack in berlin. i would like to take this opportunity to make sure that us,
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the government and the italians, that we all give a hug to the relatives. an exemplary italian was killed in this massacre. we are not taking any threats likely, but works happen tonight just goes to show that the government is there and that italy is there. thank you. a statement by the italian prime minister who has only been in the job for ten days, expressing huge gratitude and pride for what happened with

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