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fleeing 1000 miles across the country is, the telegraph also leads that story saying that counterterrorism experts are warning that open borders put security at risk, the guardian headline, end of the manhunt, it says that the moroccan authorities had warned germany about the wanted man, the times, a picture of the body of the wa nted times, a picture of the body of the wanted man, under a times, a picture of the body of the wanted man, undera blanket in a milan street, it also carries the story of a banking terrorist blacklist which apparently is so useless it includes a three—year—old member of the royal family. useless it includes a three—year—old member of the royalfamily. the daily mail has advice for any but u nwell over daily mail has advice for any but unwell over the festive season, pushed by christmas. the paper says that health chiefs have prescribed self isolation to keep the pressure off casualty units, and the daily mirror, chocolate sa ntas off casualty units, and the daily mirror, chocolate santas could kill. it reports that the co—op has withdrawn them from their shelves at button batteries were found inside. a bit of festive cheer. let's make a start with the story but so many
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papers are leading on. this man, the tunisian, who was shot dead, after this routine check in milan, he was the man wanted in connection with the man wanted in connection with the attack in berlin at the christmas market, the headline in the i, isis killer shot dead by rookie, setting out some of the main points of the story. the benefit of this is it straight to the point, it does not have to try to find a new angle, the fellow who, it certainly seems to be him, they have fingerprint evidence from the cabin of the truck crashed into this christmas market in berlin on monday, they seem to have got it in milan, and yet, essentially, the policeman said, are you not that fellow? he got out a gun and they had a shoot out. that is really all you need to know. that is the long and the short of it, really. and the fa ct and the short of it, really. and the fact that he was able to cross three different countries when he was the most different countries when he was the m ost wa nted different countries when he was the most wanted man, with all these
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different aliases, and he was able to get across into france, and back down into italy, so that is one of the... issues that has been picked up the... issues that has been picked up by a lot of the newspapers. there is this question of how he could have managed to travel 3000 miles, undetected, across europe, before finally been caught, more or less by accident, by italian police, but the big question as well, for german security forces, who had him under surveillance for many months, and had identified him as somebody who might be planning attacks, but were not able to step in and either make an arrest or gather the evidence they would need to act. so there is a lot of talk about open borders but i think a lot of talk about open borders but ithink in a lot of talk about open borders but i think in many ways the bigger question is for the german intelligence services. and they would also tried to deport him,
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haven't they? but were not able to do that. his family have criticised the italian and german authorities, i was reading, that they did not manage to deport him, but there are processes that we have to go through in europe, for people to be sent back to their country. yes, the whole thing is it is... it is still a very british, the coverage, we perhaps don't understand how europe works, europe is trying to be almost like a country, which is why they don't have borders, this idea that they're going to have more borders to somehow stop this stuff, i am not entirely convinced by it, but that will never happen, politically, because the whole point of the schengen is that you can travel around, but you can get picked up in italy, as it turns out, more likely than you could picked up in germany. yes, it was a routine check, this might easily have not happened. that is right, but it is not possible to have 100% security ever anywhere, and every time these attacks happened there are these questions asked, and like james is saying, through the lens particularly,
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particularly of the right—wing press, inevitably it will be couched in terms of a failure of european open borders, but the reality is that, you know, there are many of these disaffected young men, in this case, he followed really a pretty tragic past, from a small town in tunisia, joined the wave of migrants heading into europe, spent time injail in italy where he seemed to have been radicalised, and was a petty drug dealer in germany, where he presumably got infected by this ideological virus that caused him to act in the way that he did, but you know, the idea that closed borders are the answer to that, i don't dig it stands up to any scrutiny. the daily telegraph is making the point, eu borderwarning, as terrorist is found in italy, the opening paragraph says that open borders in italy are putting security at risk, politicians and counterterrorism experts are warning, there are measures, as we saw in france, where, for... for a limited period, emergency measures can be brought in were borders are closed, we did see that in france,
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so closed, we did see that in france, so germany have that option. absolutely but, the strange thing about this is that it's as politicians and experts, i mean, i... iwill politicians and experts, i mean, i... i will often talk politicians but they are not experts in everything, to just but they are not experts in everything, tojust go but they are not experts in everything, to just go to a politician and sarah does not make it true but there is a very weird line in this, from a former counterterrorism, head of counterterrorism, head of counterterrorism, at the met, says... schengen poses a huge risk of terrorism. we need european countries to get their act together, sooner or countries to get their act together, sooner or later they will get across the channel. the whole point is that we are not in schengen. so if they are going to get across the channel anyway, what has schengen got to do with and it the old quote does not seem with and it the old quote does not seem to make any sense but nobody has even picked up on that to make sense of it. it is not too late, daily telegraph, make a correction. the daily mail, feeling ill, postponed christmas. they be forced to turn away patients and health chiefs are having to prevent the head of infection. this is the real
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christmas grinch story from the daily mail. health chiefs are talking about, and again, we have to say... this is according to the daily mail, so it needs to be taken with a pinch of salt. but apparently health chiefs are sane self isolation will stop the spread of illness and keep the pressure from casualty units. self isolation at christmas doesn't sound like a pretty harsh prescription from the nhs, doesn't it? that depends how well christmas lunch goes for some people, they might be tempted to do it even if they are feeling perfectly fine. if you have the flow you are not going anywhere anyway. you have no choice but to be isolated. it is a bizarre story in the sense of, you know, what else are you going to do? but it is also daily mail brilliance. because it is, feeling ill? yes. we are nearly at christmas, everybody is quite tired, feeling a sniffle, you look at the news stand and go, yeah, that is me. and never mind that the copy
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is me. and never mind that the copy is fairly self—evident. it is an eye—catching headline. we will go on to eliminate that may not be quite so eye—catching, but these figures, the hundred 711,000 patient 20 casualty departments last week, i don't know how that compares with normal, do you? you need a comparative figure before you can actually make any sense of that. we know that no new money was made available in the autumn statement, that the nhs is going through an extremely pressurised... and extremely pressurised... and extremely pressurised... and extremely pressurised phase in its finances, so it's perhaps not surprising that the casualty wards are piling up and the health service is under strain. are piling up and the health service is understrain. in are piling up and the health service is under strain. in a way that should be the focus of the story. is under strain. in a way that should be the focus of the storym does say that hospitals and 95% full. i would does say that hospitals and 95% full. iwould hope does say that hospitals and 95% full. i would hope that hospitals are usually around about 95% full. if they were only 80% for the daily mail would say, the doctors are knocking off and there is...|j mail would say, the doctors are knocking off and there is... i would have thought the daily mail would have thought the daily mail would have a truce on brexit and wish a
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merry christmas to the non—eu citizens who keep the nhs going, but generally don't get much of a mention. no sign of that. this headline may not have quite the universal appeal of the daily mail. banks are honest clients. and there isa banks are honest clients. and there is a three—year—old member of the royal family. is a three—year—old member of the royalfamily. a is a three—year—old member of the royal family. a top story. on a blacklist. what is this list. i like the contrast with the daily mail because to some extent if you are not a three—year—old royal, then why bother reading? i suppose honest people want to read on. this is a database of people want to read on. this is a data base of more people want to read on. this is a database of more than 2 million high risk individuals including criminals and senior politicians, which banks use to carry out compliance checks, a p pa re ntly use to carry out compliance checks, apparently a copy was accidentally left online in the summer, it is not quite the same as accidentally leaving on the boss, is it cost and mark may be more people will see it. a p pa re ntly mark may be more people will see it. apparently the times have spent the
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last few months looking at it and investigating it and now publishing their findings investigating it and now publishing theirfindings which investigating it and now publishing their findings which amount to, yes, there are lots of people on this list are probably not any danger to anyone. then why are they on the list? that is the question, but i suppose banks are trying to... dining... the amount of money that gets laundered through many of our high street banks is pretty shocking. and i guess this of one layer, in whatever syste m this of one layer, in whatever system is put in place to try to prevent that, although that is obviously the bigger question, how much will is there really amongst these institutions to take a firm line? otherwise these institutions to take a firm line ? otherwise they these institutions to take a firm line? otherwise they would not have to rely on blacklists with three—year—old royals and a former chairman of english heritage on it, who insists he has never been involved in any sort of party
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political activity, so it is pretty clear that the database is casting its net pretty wide. i wonder how long this story will run for, given the time we have been poring over, four months. yeah, i mean, i guess... it does have 2 million names on the list, so... 0k, it will not take them that long. the team of office rs not take them that long. the team of officers spent the last three months reading through the list one by one. now, he has been analysing it. analysed it, not just now, he has been analysing it. analysed it, notjust read through it. it is maybe not as interesting as the panama... the panama files, not quite. i mean, it is a good story but it does slightly have the air of one that may have been sitting around ina one that may have been sitting around in a basket waiting to be run and a quiet moment has arrived. that is not meant as a criticism, it is merely an observation. we all struggle towards christmas, and all have stockpot stories waiting on the sheh have stockpot stories waiting on the shelf for a quiet news day, gosh, we spent ages putting this together every year. for people like us on the tv. that is always fresh. we do out the tv. that is always fresh. we do our best. let's go back to the telegraph. this is a story they have been covering. president 0bama criticised for abandoning israel.
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the united nations voted on a resolution put forward to condemn the building of settlements in occupied palestinian territory. and ordinarily, matthew, the united states would veto such a resolution. but not tonight. that is right. this resolution is more or less are saying what many people in the international community think, that these settlements, that israel has been building, they are illegal, and should be stopped. the resolution also stresses that israel has a right to it and security. but president obama has broken with convention by refusing to veto it. it seems to be a sign of his growing frustration with the government in israel, which is one of the most right—wing that has ever been elected, and which seems to
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disdain the idea of a two state solution, which was very much us policy. president obama is taking this opportunity to signal his feelings on the issue. whether he is abandoning israel, ithink feelings on the issue. whether he is abandoning israel, i think that is questionable, given that the us has just signed its biggest ever military aid package, worth $38 billion, but there is a very powerful pro—israel lobby in us politics and they spend a lot of money and they have a lot of friends. but barack 0bama is not in office for much longer and donald trump has signalled it will be different with him in charge. you know, palestine— israel is obviously incredibly complex, but you can boil it down to a soap opera, you have got president 0bama apparently fed up got president 0bama apparently fed up with benjamin netanyahu, who he never really got on well with, and not donald trump piles in with a tweet saying, things will be different afterjanuary 21 he becomes president, so there are all sorts of issues at stake, but there are big personalities as well, that is perhaps the way to get into the story. the us ambassador to the un said, we arejust story. the us ambassador to the un said, we are just reflecting what is happening on the ground, in their
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view, our policy is, you cannot have a two state solution and keep building. exactly. it is a policy that many internationally agree with. it isjust that us politics is so with. it isjust that us politics is so framed that it is very difficult for politicians of either party to break with the sort of constant support of israel in the security class. you wonder about the timing of it, so close to the end of the president 0bama tenure, if that has anything to do with that, feeling that he can do so at this point, when he would not have made this choice a few months back. although a p pa re ntly choice a few months back. although apparently they have been agonising over it for months in the white house, what are we going to do about this thing, so it is not simply going, iam this thing, so it is not simply going, i am a way out the door, i will do what i say, is usually conjugated
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issue for any reader. and although the palestinians are celebrating they have been incredibly frustrated with president obama is well these la st with president obama is well these last eight years, he is not popular among either side actually, for failing to go further in, well, resolving is the wrong word, but at least progressing some sort of settlement. i suspect that will not change, donald trump is hardly the man to fix israel/ palestine. change, donald trump is hardly the man to fix israev palestine. he is making the right noises though, different noises. daily mirror. chocolate santas different noises. daily mirror. chocolate sa ntas could different noises. daily mirror. chocolate santas could kill. there isa chocolate santas could kill. there is a recall here of some festive sweets. we should say that we try to find something a bit more cheerful. the la st something a bit more cheerful. the last papers before christmas. as a newspaper man, i like this story. and a father of two? i heard this on the radio and thought, that is a good story, it should be on the front pages. and working from home a lot i have the pleasure of listening to thejeremy vine show, he had a thing on, surgeons in september, this news story about kids are swallowing
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these little batteries, and they do all sorts of damage to the wind pipes. if you wanted to damage small children the best way to do it would be to put tiny batteries in chocolate santas. i do wish you would not make the statement quite like that. they seem to think that tampering has taken place after they left the factory and before they got to the co—op. so we don't know exactly what is going on. but it is the sort of story that is a bit like the sort of story that is a bit like the daily mail one, eye—catching, to sell papers. and also, a small child could mistake it for a suite. yes, a little silver, glowing suite. it is very difficult at this point, so close to christmas, to recall things like this, surely. absolutely. 165,000 of those things are out there, that they need to get back. and to be fair, not only is it a good story, but putting it on the front page will also help.
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that is it from the papers this hour. we will have another view at 11:30 p.m.. all the front pages are online on our website where you can read a detailed review of the papers, seven days a week, bbc .co .uk/ papers, you can see us there also, each night's edition is posted on the page shortly after we finished, it is also an iplayer, thank you to james and matthew, red glitter, in james's thank you to james and matthew, red glitter, injames's pocket, we might see it later. see you in a bit. good evening. it will continue to be more northern parts of the uk they get the worst of the weather over the next few days, there is another storm brewing out in the atlantic, this area of club will develop, storm are a couple of days away,
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immediately this area of called around will bring some gusty winds around will bring some gusty winds around the western side of england and wales, very big waves as well, some localised flooding in scotland, in the north of scotland, about 80 mph, orso, the in the north of scotland, about 80 mph, or so, the amber wind warning from the met office is about to expire but it will remain windy overnight in scotland and northern ireland, frequent showers, there will be more snow in scotland over the hills and mountains, atrocious wedge here, icy conditions as well, much of england and wales will be dry, clear skies, and the chilly side. that is the position of storm barbara as we headed to christmas eve morning, taking away the worst of the wind, there's still some blustery frequent showers coming into scotland and northern ireland on christmas eve, and those showers will be wintery in scotland as well, a few showers for northern england, perhaps wales, further south and east it may well be dry, quite a bit of sunshine, not as windy, temperatures in double figures, feeling called a further north in
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the wind and the wet weather and some coming across northern areas overnight, taking us into christmas day morning, where it is going to be very mild. temperatures of 1a, perhaps even 15. strong and gusty winds over to the east of the hills, and a lot of clout, this weather front providing the focus for some rain, moving slowly southward, ahead of it, mild error, to the north, cold air, if there is a white christmas, it could be late in the day in northern scotland. that cold air here they will push its way south across the whole of the country eventually, behind that weather front, the main country eventually, behind that weatherfront, the main driving force in the area of low pressure, this of course is storm corner, this is the position on boxing day, running between scotland and iceland, and it is boxing day it is closest to the uk. we have an amber wind warning in the far north—east, chiefly the northern isles, with the elsewhere in scotland, frequent showers, much like windows we had further south where it should try with sunshine, after boxing day we
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will fight the settling down, high pressure building, light winds, but it will be cold, particularly at night. this is bbc news. the headlines at 11:00pm: the man suspected of the berlin christmas market attack is shot dead in italy, after he was stopped by police in milan in the early hours, outside a train station. translation: at that moment, the man got hold of a pistol. and without hesitation fired towards the police officer who had asked for identification documents. translation: i pledge allegiance to the commander of the faithful, abu bakr al— baghdadi. so—called islamic state releases footage showing amri pledging allegiance to them. two british men are convicted of using muslim aid convoys from the uk to syria to provide cash for extremists. star wars actress carrie fisher has been taken to hospital
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