tv Victoria Derbyshire BBC News January 5, 2017 9:00am-11:00am GMT
hello — it's thursday, it's 9am, i'm victoria derbyshire, welcome to the programme. our top story today — warnings children are being left to "fend for themselves" online — with parents vainly hoping their kids will avoid the pitfalls. i'm the children's commissioner and we will be looking at how we give children resilience, honest information and the power to flourish online. if you identify with that — do get in touch. we'll talk to a group of schoolchildren about their experiences. also on the programme — the men who massacre theirfamilies. we'll hear from some of those who survived the attacks. it is really hard. those are the things i have to live with now. even though it has been 14 years, i have bad dreams and all of the things that you have experienced... and — could where you live affect your chances of getting dementia?
researchers say people who live near major roads may have a greater chance of developing it. we'll look at the evidence. hello. welcome to the programme, we're live until ”am this morning. we will bring you breaking news and developing stories, and we will examine the deaths of two rough sleepers in one town in the uk over christmas week. do get in touch on all the stories we're talking about this morning — use #victorialive and if you text, you will be charged at the standard network rate. our top story today. we would really like your input on this... the children's commissioner for england has warned that young people are left to face the dangers of bullying and grooming online alone. anne longfield says children — and often their parents — have no idea what they are signing up to on social media sites and pupils as young as four should be taught about internet safety in school. our education correspondent gillian hargreaves has more. digital technology can
enrich children's minds, but there are pitfalls too. millions of youngsters have joined social media sites to keep in touch with friends, but many of those questioned by the commissioner have little idea of what they're signing up to. with pages of terms and conditions, it seems few realise the risk to privacy. the children's commissioner calls for the appointment of a digital ombudsman to mediate between children and social media companies over online bullying. she also recommends there should be mandatory digital citizenship courses in schools and new privacy laws to protect children's personal information online. what no—one has done yet is to look at how we design and intervene with a digital world in a way that can really give children the support they need for the place they spend an awful lot of time, but also the information and the power to be able to get what they need out of the internet. while instagram, facebook
and twitter recommend that their services are most suitable for children over the age of 13, younger children can circumvent the rules and open an account. gillian hargreaves, bbc news. asa mum, as a mum, dad or grandparent, are you worried about this with your kids or grandchildren? let me know, how do you police it and make sure that they are safe online? we will speak to this group of primary school pupils and secondary school pupils and the children's commissionerfor pupils and the children's commissioner for england. good morning. they are here to give their views and whether it is something they worry about wednesday tick the "i agree" on the terms and conditions. —— wednesday. annita is in the bbc newsroom with a summary of the rest of the day's news. people who live near main roads may be at greater risk of dementia, according to a decade—long study by scientists in canada.
the medical causes of the brain disease have yet to be identified but the research suggests air pollution and noisy traffic could be significant factors. dan johnson reports. memories lost, thoughts confused, personalities gradually fading. dementia affects 850,000 people in the uk. now there's a claim it could be linked to traffic. this study from canada shows that people living close to busy roads had higher chances of developing dementia. researchers in ontario followed more than two million people over 11 years. the ones who lived within 50 metres of heavy traffic had a 12% higher risk of dementia than those more than 200 metres away. so what is it that's actually affecting the brain? ultra—fine particles, the very smallest ones, can actually move across the lungs into the bloodstream and circulate in the body. how those particles work, a bit speculative, but one hypothesis is fairly nonspecific effects on inflammation and oxididative stress on the body. so we have a potential mechanism but it's far from proven. experts here have cautiously
welcomed the results as important and provocative. they've stressed it shows an association, not a cause. they've pointed out dementia is also affected by age, lifestyle and genetics. but they are encouraging further research into the impact of traffic and pollution. dan johnson, bbc news. the appointment of sir tim barrow as the uk's new ambassador to the european union has been welcomed by almost all the political parties. he replaces sir ivan rogers, who resigned on tuesday after complaining of muddle and confusion in the approach to brexit. the government says the uk's new ambassador in brussels is a "seasoned and tough negotiator". immigrants should be expected to learn english before coming to britain, or attend language classes when they arrive. the all party parliamentary group on social integration also wants
the government to consider giving the uk's nations and regions the power to control the number of visas issued. here's our home affairs correspondent, danny shaw. over the past decade, the scale of immigration to britain has been unprecedented, sparking debate about whether the numbers should be reduced and if so, how? but this report from mps and peers says there should be more focus on what happens after immigrants arrive. it says many immigrant communities and people already settled here lead parallel lives and it calls on the government to address what it says is a lack of integration. the report makes a number of recommendations. it says all immigrants should learn english before coming to the uk or enrol in classes when they're here. it calls for courses to teach immigrants about british culture and the report says that government should give immigrants guidance on the costs and benefits of uk citizenship and consider cutting the fees for naturalisation. a lack of integration for newcomers leads to them not having access
to the same opportunities, it can lead to an increase in distrust in the communities locally. all the things that make living in england and britain great are denied people. you cannot enjoy what this country has to offer if you don't speak the language. another idea in the report is for immigration policy to be devolved to britain's nations and regions. they'd be able to allocate visas according to local need. the report says that might instil confidence among members of the public that the immigration system works for their area. the home office says it is not planning to introduce local visa arrangements but the department says it has made funding available for more english lessons. danny shaw, bbc news. four people have been arrested in the american city of chicago over a video live—streamed on facebook, in which a bound and gagged man was assaulted. police say the man being assaulted has special needs.
his assailants can be heard making derogatory statements against white people. the man, who police say was acquainted with one of his attackers, has now been released from hospital. news just newsjust in... a record number of new cars were bought in the uk in 2016 — according to the society of motor manufacturers and traders. sales hit 2.69 million — that's up more than two per cent on the previous year. however, the industry expects to sell fewer new cars this year. handwritten letters from princess diana are due to be auctioned in cambridge later today. written to a steward at buckingham palace, they reveal that a young prince harry was routinely in trouble at school. in one letter dated 17th october, 1992, she says how both young princes "are well and enjoying boarding school a lot, although harry is constantly in trouble!". the collection will be sold over approximately a0 lots — with estimates ranging from £80 to £900.
the auction also includes letters from the queen, written on windsor castle headed paper. a former crewe alexandra coach has denied wrongdoing after being suspended by the fa's safeguarding panel. paul mccann worked with young players at the club in the 1980's and 90's. he was working with the then—manager dario gradi, who is now the club's director. he also later volunteered as a youth coach at non—league club afc bebington, in the merseyside area. nearly 5,000 contestants have taken part in an annualjapanese calligraphy contest in tokyo. the competition requires participants to write phrases or poems of increasing complexity with a traditional brush and black ink within an allotted 2a minutes. those taking part, aged from three to 93, werejudged on the beauty of their strokes and the expression of their writing. the winners will be announced at a separate ceremony in february. that's a summary of the latest bbc news — more at 9.30am. thank you, later in the programme we
will be talking about final artwork like this... and, oh good, we have the human league in there —— vinyl. we will be talking to those hoping to make their own masterpieces in 2017. do get in touch with us throughout the morning — use the hashtag #victorialive and if you text, you will be charged at the standard network rate. let's get some sport withjohn watson. it is really interesting at the top of the premier league, isn't it? yes, halting up after a huge result potentially in the title race last night. chelsea were hoping to go on a record 1a matches, by winning the 14 a record 1a matches, by winning the 1a in a record 1a matches, by winning the 14ina a record 1a matches, by winning the 1a in a row but was stopped last night by tottenham, they were simply superb at white hart lane, beating chelsea 2—0. 20—year—old dele alli
scored two headers so chelsea were defeated for the first time since september. man of the moment last night, seven goals in four matches for dele alli, an incredible run of form for tottenham who have won five consecutive matches in a row. let's hear from the goal—scorer who got two last night, dele alli himself. there is no need to talk before the game, everybody knew how big it was, you could see from the first whistle how badly the fans wanted it. it is aways nice to score but more important that we got that win today. yes, that means tottenham are 110w today. yes, that means tottenham are now in third position, not a com plete now in third position, not a complete disaster for chelsea, five points clear at the top of the table and their manager antonio conte is slightly disappointed they did not manage to match that record but he knows his team are well placed in the title race at the moment...m isa the title race at the moment...m is a pity, but it is important to
know that this can happen. it is important to continue to work very hard, and try and improve every day. chelsea's winning run is over but sir andy murray... it is not? he is flying at the moment, his winning run is continuing, 26 competitive matches in a row for him, and he has managed to continue his run at the qatar 0pen, he was made to work hard against his competitor, he was sweating on the court, taken to a tie—break, but he came through 7—6, taking the second set 7—5. this is a big yearfor him, world number one and he would like to preserve that status and he wants to go through and win the australian open at the end of january. johanna konta and win the australian open at the end ofjanuary. johanna konta is flying at the moment, she reached the semifinals of the australian open last year, and she is one match
away from what would be a third wta finalfor her, she came away from what would be a third wta final for her, she came through away from what would be a third wta finalfor her, she came through in her match in the quarterfinals of the shins and open in china, world number ten and she wants to go and match those achievements of last year. it would be great if she can surpass that. and kadeena cox has responded to criticism that she is taking part in the reality ski show on channel 4, the jump, taking part in the reality ski show on channel 4, thejump, where nearly every competitor is injured? yes, kadeena cox was one of the stars of the paralympic games in rio, winning gold in cycling and athletics but after the paralympic games she has decided she wants to go on the show thejump, and why not? she would like to build on success from the summer, she describes her life as "a ticking time bomb", she says that
her diagnosis of ms has changed her outlook on life and you would like to learn how to ski, why not? for the organisers, uk sport, she has had herfunding the organisers, uk sport, she has had her funding cut the organisers, uk sport, she has had herfunding cut while the organisers, uk sport, she has had her funding cut while she com petes had her funding cut while she competes on the show, but it is looking good. she does not have any cycling events this year, she will be expected to take part in events injuly, but she can compete on the show, but fingers crossed you does not get injured. it sounds like she would like to say yes to all opportunities, and who can blame her? john, thank you. good morning. this morning — the men who murder their own families. and before you ask — in 95% of cases it is men. so what causes them to carry out acts of such unspeakable brutality? leading experts have told this programme we should be doing more to spot warning signs and patterns of behaviour — things like physical abuse, a loss of control and terrifying threats — which should be triggering concern and action. but what about the families who this advice is too late for? 0ur reporterjames longman has been
to meet some of the people whose lives have been destroyed by these kind of attacks. they talk openly and honestly about what they've been through — you might find some of the details upsetting. one of the nightmares i have regular is when i'm on a field, and i can and i can see the car, and i can hear them calling, mummy, mummy, please help us, mummy, and all i can see is a knife, a knife going up and down in the car as he is killing the boys. they went and bought two litres of petrol and poured it all over the house, all over the floor, over the sofas and up the stairs and everywhere. they put him into an induced coma at this point to hold his body deal
with the shock and the burns. he had wires and tubes and things coming out of him all over the place. there is a domestic incident in the uk every three days. it's mostly men who attacked their families. why are they so violent, and what other warning signs? we've been to meet some of the people whose lives and families were destroyed by these sorts of attacks, and the author of one of uk's biggest studies of domestic homicide, who tries to explain why they happen. that particular night, i wore a red dress, and just bizarrely chris de burgh, lady in red, was on.
he asked me to dance, and i danced, he treated me like a princess, put me on a pedestal. denise williams met her ex—husband stephen wilson when she was 16. six months in, and he's starting to show his true colours, but he knew i had nowhere to go, no one to run to. he'd call me all the different names under the sun, he'd verbally abuse me, mentally abuse me, physically abuse me, punch me, kick me. brett was born in 1993, and bradley the following year. they had dark eyes, beautiful brown locks in their hair. how much happiness they brought me, even though i was living a horrible life of abuse and putting up with drunken outbursts, just having the children seemed to make it all 0k. denise took her sons and left stephen several times. she lived for the last time in every 2002. time in february 2002. she didn't take brett and bradley with her that time but was planning
on going back for them. they all met up at a restaurant a few days later. tell me what happened the last time that you tried to leave. as i turned to get out the car, he pulled me, he pulled my hair and pulled me into his lap in the car, and he started punching all the left side of my face. so me panicking managed to find my horn of the car, and i managed to keep my hand on the horn of the car, and i found the handle on the car door, which i pushed open, and he panicked when i was blowing the horn on the car, and he loosed me. and then he drove off, and that was the last i'd seen of the boys. i was really bleeding. i caught the tram back to my friend's house, 20—minute tram ride. he rang me, and he said i havejust killed the kids and i'm going to kill myself. and at that, you think, listen for the boys, listen for the boys in the background, can you hear them?
and i couldn't hear them. and i rememberthem coming in, the sergeant of the station, and he said, denise, we found the boys, and gosh, i was so excited. in the corner of this room was a big box of toys, and i'm going, go and fetch them, go and fetch them so they can play with the toys, and he just knelt on the floor, and he said to me, denise, they're dead. "denise, they're dead". stephen murdered his two sons by stabbing them in their necks. first he killed their youngest son, bradley, who was seven years old, and then eight—year—old brett. i remember going and just seeing the children through a glass, like they're in a fish tank, and i identified the bodies. it was... horrible, absolutely horrible. yeah. really hard.
and those are the things that i have to live with now, even though it's been 1a years, you still have the things and bad dreams that you've experienced. stephen wilson was given two life sentences for their murders. the findings across the world... jane monkton—smith is a criminologist at the university of gloucestershire. she is currently leading one of the biggest studies of domestic homicide in the uk. over 95% of cases, it will be a man, and it will usually be the head of the household. one of the shocking things about this is that they are nearly always, if not always, planned, and there can be quite a lot of rage and fury involved, and they are usually incredibly violent. denise's story shows a cycle of abuse ending in tragedy,
but what about when the very children targeted manage to survive? david potts attacked his partner's family, including her three children. somebody broke through the back door. but before they did that, they went and bought two litres of petrol, and poured it all over the house, on the floor, over the sofas and up the stairs and everywhere, except for the upstairs. and then my mum and eldest brother went to try and stop him but he just lit the fueljust in time, and them three there died. then my sister was calling the police and the fire, i think, and i was still asleep,
and by the time they arrived, they charged through, saving me and my sister. zack was four years old when his mum's new partner broke into the family home and set it on fire. zack survived, along with his half sister kay—lynn, who was 18 at the time. his mum, tracy, and 15—year—old half brother, sean, were killed. zack's brother rick remembers the night of the fire. zack's dad rick remembers the night of the fire. sheer panic at that point. all control went, what went through my head was, what's happened, what sort of state is he in, is he going to survive? same with the others, kay— lynn and sean and tracy. zack was taken to a children's hospital for treatment. he spent the next two months there. heartbreaking, absolutely heartbreaking.
he had wires and tubes and things coming out of him all over the place. they'd put him into an enduced coma at this point to help his body deal with the shock and the burns as best as possible. what were his injuries? about 20% burns, mainly to his arms, up to about t—shirt length. and you've got to cover your arms in this cream? yeah. when i found out who died, i was crying, and when i think about it, it makes me a emotional. zack is now nine and living with his dad. he loves football, especially manchester united, but the scars remind him of what happened. what sort things do they say to you? not mean things, butjust, like,
if somebody‘s never seen me before, like, "what happened to your arms?" and then i would either describe, orjust ignore them. and then, like, two minutes later, they'll say, "what's that on your neck?" and then that's what makes me think about it, and then i become emotional. what do we do, when you're feeling emotional about it? try and cheer me up. yeah, we have a chat, don't we? we remember the good times. david potts started the fire. he also died in the house. why do you think he did this?
we know he was a controlling person. i think there was a point she said her phone was taken off her in the evening, you know, he was allowed out, but she wasn't, from what i could gather. just alarm bells there, you know, controlling. in her research, jane has found trends linking the cases she has looked at. one of the things is the killer's need to control everything in their life, for whatever reason. and quite often a personality disorder, so very, very self—focused, sees everything in the world as it applies to them, rather than being sensitive to the needs of others. that comes across very strongly. very often a lack of remorse, which could be because they have a personality disorder, but it could be a kind of self—protecting denial of what they've done. but in a lot of these cases,
men will try to commit suicide. i had a phone call on mother's day, and they said to me, "i don't know if it is good news or bad news, denise, but he has hung himself in prison. he's dead." and, in a way, i felt cheated. and very, very angry, the fact that he hadn't got to live with this, and i was the one left behind, having to cope, having to learn to cope, and trying to live with all this. why do you think he did what he did? to avenge me, because he lost power over me, he lost the control that he had over me. i burst his bubble. i think he knew he would lose the boys if they came to me. i think he realised the boys would not go back to him. and so if he couldn't have them,
he made sure i couldn't have them by doing that. jane has looked at over 300 cases of domestic homicide and believes they are increasing. there are very complex reasons for this, but sometimes children are deliberately focused on, and sometimes they are just collateral damage. and i think that sometimes men are losing a sense of who they're supposed to be now, because society has changed so much forthem, and i don't think their roles are necessarily always clearly defined. there are warning signs. they didn't just snap, these things are more often than not planned, and to say that he just snapped makes it sound like there are not things that can be done to predict this, but there is. we could save some lives. i would like think of what it would be like if my mum was around, and what house i would be in,
either the same house or another house. yes, you think about the practicalities a lot, don't you? you miss having your mum around, don't you? yeah. it would be nice to have mum here as well. like, somebody to, an extra person to accompany me. so all of this has made you two stronger? yeah. would you say that is true? yeah. do you think it has made us stronger? yeah. definitely. denise has managed to move forward with her life. she is now married and has three children. going all the way back to the beginning when you met him, in that red dress in the working men's club, do you regret meeting him? if i turned back the clock and i didn't meet him, i would not have had the seven and eight years that i had with my boys. and that is never going to die. the children may have died,
but their memory is never going to die, it's always there. thank you for your messages as he watched that. hannah on facebook said thank goodness i got away from a violent abuser to protect my son and myself, a decade ago, that could have been us. sadly others have had a taste of it before and since and agencies meant to help and protect it didn'tand agencies meant to help and protect it didn't and still haven't. let's hope this changes in the future for the better. lj says these are tragic stories, it's a lot to expose children to. clarence on twitter says it is heartbreaking regarding domestic, side, kudos for identifying it as a problem of male violence. thank you for those. get in touch if you want to. and to watch that film again and share it — you can head to our programme page bbc.co.uk/victoria. in the next hour we will be speaking to dr monckton—smith, a leading criminologist in domestic homicide, to find out more about why
people are driven to commit such horrendous crimes and what the warning signs are. still to come... a private memorial service is to take place later today for the american acting icons carrie fisher and her mother debbie reynolds — that comes ahead of a new documentary about their relationship. we'll have more in the next half hour. a new report says children are being left to ‘fend for themselves' online — we'll be speaking to a group of schoolchildren about their own experiences. here's annita in the bbc newsroom with a summary of today's news. a study has warned that children are being left to "fend for themselves" in the digital world — against dangers such as bullying and grooming. the children's commissioner for england, anne longfield, says many children and parents are often unaware that personal information and content posted on social media sites can be sold on to third parties. researchers in canada have found that people living near major roads appear more likely
to develop dementia. they tracked more than two million people in ontario for signs of the brain disease over the course of 11 years. the scientists suggested air pollution or noisy traffic could contribute to the brain's decline. migrants should be expected to learn english before coming to the uk, or attend language classes when they arrive, according to a group of mps and peers. the cross—party group said speaking english was "the key to full participation in our society and economy". they also said ministers should consider letting different parts of the uk set their own immigration policy. the government said it was spending £20 million on english language provision. a record number of new cars were bought in the uk in 2016 — according to the society of motor manufacturers and traders. sales hit 2.69 million. that's up more than 2% on the previous year. however, there's a warning that with fleet and private sales now
falling, the figures are unlikely to be so strong in 2017. this programme has learnt that a former crewe alexandra coach has denied wrongdoing after being suspended by the fa's safeguarding panel. paul mccann worked with young players at the club in the 1980's and 90's. he was working with the then—manager dario gradi, who is now the club's director. he also later volunteered as a youth coach at non—league club afc bebington, in the merseyside area. handwritten letters from princess diana are due to be auctioned in cambridge later today. written to a steward at buckingham palace, they reveal that a young prince harry was routinely in trouble at school. in one letter she wrote — "william adores his little brother and spends the entire time swamping harry with an endless supply of hugs and kisses, hardly letting the parents near!" the collection will be sold over approximately a0 lots — with estimates ranging from £80 to £900. the auction also includes letters
from the queen, written on windsor castle headed paper. that's a summary of the latest bbc news — more at 10.00am. john watson is here with the sport. good morning. tottenham prevented chelsea from matching the longest consecutive winning run in premier league history as the blues were beaten 2—0 at white hart lane last night to throw open the title race. dele alli got both goals with two headers, chelsea remain five points clear at the top and tottenham are interred. andy murray's winning run continues, extending his consecutive winning run. he is into the quarterfinals after a tough straight sets win over australian gerald melzer as he prepares for the australian open later this month. the world number one is yet to win one of these titles. johanna konta's good run of form continues, one win away from reaching her third wta final, she beat her competitor kristyna pliskova in the finals of the shenzhen 0pen
kristyna pliskova in the finals of the shenzhen open in china. that's all of the sport now, more in the next update at ten o'clock. children are being left by their parents to ‘fend for themselves' online according to the children's commissioner for england. in a report today, anne longfield says parents ‘vainly hope' their kids will benefit from the internet‘s opportunities while ‘avoiding its pitfalls'. she also says it‘s ‘wholly irresponsible' to let children and young teeenagers ‘roam in a world for which they are ill—prepared‘. last year, 3—4 year olds spent on average eight hours 18 minutes a week online, and 12—15 year olds spend over 20 hours a week online on average. and there‘s a warning too that youngsters have no idea they often sign away their privacy when theyjoin social media sites — rules in instagram‘s terms and conditions for example, allow youngsters‘ messages amd pictures to be bought and sold by the web companies who can then target them for advertising. the children‘s commissioner is calling for simplified terms and conditions and compulsary digital citizenship lessons in schools.
your own experiences youi’ own experiences are your own experiences are welcome and how you manage to make sure that yourjob and are safe online, let us know. anne longfield is here along with various primary and secondary school pupils. from whitefield school — guy is in year ten, beth is in year ten, zara is in year nine, shinia is in year 11 — they‘re here with their teacher darren harkin. also here from tetherdown primary school are year 5s eli, catrin, safia and matteo and his mum katherine. thank you for coming onto the programme. a general question, raise your hands, if it is like being at school, i am sorry, who here has snapchat? how old are you? i am ten. did you know that you had to be 13 to have it? yes. that's interesting! who has facebook, instagram? twitter? again, you are meant to be
13 for instagram, and twitter... when you go online, are you concerned about anything, or are you just having a great time playing games or speaking to your friends? there is nothing that concerns you in terms of your safety?” there is nothing that concerns you in terms of your safety? i keep all of my accounts private, unless i would like somebody to see it, then i keep it private. mine is private, i know what i put. beth, you are the same? everything is private? and you only have one account. not two? they always advertise it looking very safe, and having features of private accounts on instagram, so it makes it look safe, so yes. do you think that you are unusual in keeping all
of your accounts private? no. a lot of your accounts private? no. a lot of people do it. all of my friends have all of their stuff private. 0k, and what are your worries, anne, as children‘s commissioner. and what are your worries, anne, as children's commissioner. firstly, the internet is a force of good, while we talk about protection it is also about empowering children to get the most out of it. but it was not designed for children and over the last five or six years, it‘s become a big issue, one third of users are children. and in the clip as you said, children are ill—prepared and do not have knowledge about how the internet works or the social rules that could be online. 0ften works or the social rules that could be online. often they do not have the information, especially regarding privacy and terms and conditions will rule that, they are largely unfathomable. they do not have the back—up to do something about if something goes wrong. really, the balance of power is very much geared away from children on
the internet, and we know that half of children‘s leisure time, for teenagers, it‘s online. it is out of sync with their physical world and needs to change in terms of improving their rights. is there anything that anne longfield has said which worries you? i do not get the impression that you are worried at all! i am slowly concerned, we feel so safe in what we are doing online and we know that it is ours but you said, of course, —— slightly concerned. you said that we are almost the underdogs, these big giants have power on us.|j almost the underdogs, these big giants have power on us. i think what you do have is an environment which is largely unregulated. and, it is controlled by a feud very powerful companies. so, whether they have set out with intent or not, thatis have set out with intent or not, that is where you are. and it is ruled by terms and conditions which you have probably never read and
would not understand if you did. including adults, have you ever read the terms and conditions? matty 0, did you understand them? yes. and i got my mum to check, she always checks. and you all clicked that you agree at the end? yes. and you say that you understand them, what do you understand by the terms and conditions? say if it is using social media, i understand where the privacy settings are sometimes. and my mum has two check them over. she only knows the password. are you on instagram? do you know that they can buy and sell your information? yes. i put my account on private. does that stop a company from buying or selling those images, jenny afia? no, they can do what they want and get them to other companies and so
one. but it means other people, members of the public, they cannot look at them but companies behind websites know everything about you. what do they know? explain what they know about primary and secondary school children? any information that you give them, so how often you go on the website, they are tracking you, go on the website, they are tracking you , even go on the website, they are tracking you, even when you are not on it. if it is on your phone, they are monitoring you. they have your name, they have your e—mail address, they know what you like, they have been reading all of your private messages to one another and any concerns expressed privately, any other websites that you have gone too from there, and any products which you have liked, they are keeping records of all of that information. are you really saying that there is someone at facebook reading the messages of sara, when she is working out with her friends what she will be wearing toa her friends what she will be wearing to a party on friday night?|j her friends what she will be wearing
to a party on friday night? i do not think there is one person there going through your messages but they will be looking at broad patterns to see how they can make money from all of us, and how other people will be interested in what you are doing and they will group information together and get money from it. what do you think of that? that's kind of scary, to be honest. just the fact that they know what you are saying and what you are doing. it is kind of creepy. what do you think of that? i do not like it. it is basically like they can see what you are doing. as long as you carry your phone with you. and if we click that we agree on terms and conditions, we are giving them permission. asa mum, giving them permission. as a mum, what are your concerns? as a mother and as a user, i‘m deeply shocked that we have reached this point, i think that we have lost our
own sense of what we should be passing on to our kids. the fact that we do not realise that privacy does not actually mean that, that is pretty... i‘m sure a lot of people are not aware of that. i was not aware. and i see people, friends of mine, on facebook, posting all kinds of images of their family, mine, on facebook, posting all kinds of images of theirfamily, images of themselves, and images that, as a parent, and some teachers that you will see, they put images of themselves getting drunk, i don‘t know, it is not great modelling. it seems like we are giving kids access to something that they perceive as a toy and instead it is a hand grenade... my phone is ringing! i am so sorry. i was meant to put it on silent! i know that you play games online, matteo, people that you do
not know but you have no reason to suspect them, but you had some and kind messages, ithink? because i play games where messaging is not the main part of it, there are other parts to it, umm.. it is like a drawing game, you get a word of something that you have to draw and the other person will get it. i think they could not guess what i drew, and somebody called me a a—hole. i was really upset so i told my mum straightaway. and what could you do? nothing really. block the person and i felt extremely guilty that he was exposed to that. i have seen my 13—year—old son who thinks that his peer group are seeing the kind of trouble that others are getting into, they are not aware of their digital footprint. can i just
talk about the other issue that you raised in your report today, anne? the length of time that people are on average spending online. between the ages of three and four, on average you spend eight hours 18 minutes online, according to anne‘s report, and between 12 and 15, it is 20 hours on average. is that not enough? too much? are you always drawn to your phone when there is nothing to do? is that your default position? i think it is too much, to be honest. when you are on social media for too long, you feel bored. i personally feel that there is no point at the end. there is no point in me wasting time on it... when do you reach that feeling, how long are you on it? a couple of hours, to be honest. but it is
spread out through the day. and what about your daily habits, beth? how often a day are you online? a couple often a day are you online? a couple of hours. same as you, but not in one go. if i finish my homework or something, the first thing i think those doing my phone to check if i have any messages. . . those doing my phone to check if i have any messages... and your pa rents have any messages... and your parents the same? no, they aren't. is anybody on for more than three hours per day? yeah... darren, as a teacher, where do the schools coming on this? according to anne‘s report, pa rents a re on this? according to anne‘s report, parents are being reasonably responsible in the kind of access we give our kids when it comes to being online. .. we give our kids when it comes to being online... we have give our kids when it comes to being online. .. we have safety policies for safety agricultural drunk and students, from year seven day are taught in ict lessons... —— safety policies for students. you need to be careful of what is
online and tort of the dangers, teachers are held to safety policies in terms of our accounts. at the same time, some of them may choose to ignore it because they would like more followers. 0ften often you do not think it applies to you because you feel in control of what you are doing online, you think you are kind of invincible. most of the time that will be true but on the time that will be true but on the odd occasion you may be subject to bullying, you know, grooming, etc etc. what do you think of anne longfield‘s idea of teaching compulsory citizenship lessons?m is included in the scheme of learning for years seven and we do refresher assemblies throughout the yea rs. refresher assemblies throughout the years. from the age of four, you suggest, anne longfield. yes and there is an emphasis on safety and protection which is important, but given this is really now a part
ingrained in every part of young people's lives this is about empowering children as well. so how to bea empowering children as well. so how to be a good digital citizen, how to notice if somebody is a real person or notice if somebody is a real person ora notice if somebody is a real person ora fake notice if somebody is a real person or a fake person, notice if somebody is a real person ora fake person, or notice if somebody is a real person or a fake person, or how to understand how to react to adverts if they are targeted towards you. and the discussions we've had about terms and conditions, that is something children should all know. you are calling for them to be really simplified. they should be very transparent. that would be incredibly helpful. as a mum, katie, terms of compulsory lessons from the age of four about how to behave online and manage it, what would you say? absolutely, and i'm right about parenting and keep banging on about the fact that there is no mandatory sex and relationship education and it has to be seen within that context that it's a relationship you're having with other, often, people you don't know, it's going to
bea people you don't know, it's going to be a relationship you are having with human resources who are going through your history to see whether you are a good bet for the company. there is so much that people don't know and we are still as a generation, us lot, incredibly squeamish about the subject and we are failing them. you think we are? big time. as a privacy law expert, jenny, would you welcome compulsory lessons from the age of four circuits know what they are doing? absolutely, we‘ve had a lot of education about safety and the debate about the internet always gets tied up with safety and that is obviously important, but the debate in the education needs to move on now so that young people in particular understand technology and how it works. for example, knowing that when you are online for three hours a day it‘s because there is technology built in, they are called sticky sites that are designed just to hook you in and keep you on your phone so that you keep looking at the advertising content and so on. i
don‘t think enough parents and children realise that. that's the point plenty of the audience is making this morning, the fact you all know much more than your periods know. also raised most kids understand how the internet works better than adults. privacy is a generational issue, parents will teach children web safety. when you became parents you will become savvy ina way became parents you will become savvy in a way that i am not and you are not katie. ben says three to four—year—olds, eight hours online, it is disgraceful and shows parents just want quiet out of the way kids. ed says kids on your programme today holding their own on the online privacy issue. i know that some of your parents monitor your social media sites. is that part of the dealfor you media sites. is that part of the deal for you having access to facebook, twitter and instagram? yes. are you happy with that? yes, i don‘t mind. yes. are you happy with that? yes, i don't mind. would you go further, would you welcome the fact they look at what you are saying to your mates and what other people say to you?” think it is good because then it
makes sure you don't do anything bad, your parents are checking your phone and that you are safe. we often walk into situations blindfolded, whereas, for example, al parents will be able to take a step back and look at what we are going into, you know? 0k. thank you for coming on, all of you. thank you, thank you, thank you. that was somebody from manchester arena in if you are interested. your views are welcome, get in touch. coming up: could living near a busy road increase your risk of contracting alzheimer‘s? we‘ll be examining new research which says that could be the case. so little is known about the causes of dementia. next this morning — this programme has learnt that a former youth coach for crewe alexandra football club has been suspended by the fa. paul mccann worked closely with crewe‘s then manager and now director of football dario gardi who has also been dario gradi who has also been
suspended by the fa. mr mccann says he will co—operate with any investigation. 0ur reporterjim reed is here. paul mccann was a coach at crewe in the 1980s and at one stage she was in charge of the youth team and also in charge of the youth team and also in charge of the beating, or reserve tea m in charge of the beating, or reserve team at one point. this was on a volu nta ry team at one point. this was on a voluntary basis, he was never paid for his work at the club, that was a common situation in the 1980s. we have read a book, a history of crewe where he is described as a long—standing member of the club, a sta lwa rt long—standing member of the club, a stalwart and a key member of the youth team and reserve team. he left the club in the 90s, why was that? he left in 1991, he had a job outside football that took abroad to the netherlands and then australia. he came back to the uk, the same area, he came back to the uk, the same area , seven he came back to the uk, the same area, seven or eight years later. he didn‘t go back to crewe but maintained an interest in football and was awarded his uefa a coaching lessons, a serious qualification, allowing you to manage or coach any
tea m allowing you to manage or coach any team up to just underneath premiership level. he never used a qualification to work professionally but in 2014 he was assisted as a youth team manager at afc badminton on merseyside which ended after a yearin on merseyside which ended after a year in 2015 when the team was disbanded —— afc bebington. year in 2015 when the team was disbanded -- afc bebington. back coaching licence has now been suspended? it has been suspended by the football association, not by the cheshire fa but the safeguarding board of the fa in london. it means he may not work in any capacity in football until the suspension was lifted. officially the fa will not confirm the suspension or tell us what he is suspended, it is confidential information. what did paul mccann say? he confirmed he has been suspended and we understand he will cooperate with any investigation and we understand he denies any wrongdoing. he told the guardian newspaper this morning that he thinks he is collateral damage in all of this. he is the second person suspended by the fa that is linked
to crewe alexandra football club. the current director of football and long—time manager dario gradi has also been suspended, this was back in november. the football association will not tell us why that was. dario gradi has denied any wrongdoing and said he will cooperate fully with any investigation. thank you, jim reed reporting. a private memorial service will take place later today for american acting icons carrie fisher and her mum debbie reynolds. family members and close friends will attend. 60—year—old carrie fisher died last tuesday after suffering cardiac arrest on a plane travelling from london to los angeles. the next day, her mother — debbie reynolds — died from a stroke at the age of 84. her son, carrie‘s brother, todd fisher, says she died of a "broken heart" following her daughter‘s death. the pair had been taking part in a hbo documentary which airs this weekend — here‘s an extract from it. mommy, mommy, i‘m home. you cannot keep that phone. that‘s from when they first invented cellphones.
it works fine. it‘s ridiculous. just dandy. i have to go and start rehearsals for star wars seven... ...ty—two. i‘m concerned because my mother is not feeling well. is this for the show? iforgot i had it. that‘s what‘s good about losing your memory. there‘s so many surprises. it‘s like the old days in a way but i‘m like the old days, so... my family in particular can overwhelm most people. it wasn't just my mother that was super famous. my dad was a world—class singer. they were the couple of america, one heck of a marketing tool. my mother, she‘ll forget she‘s not 35. age is horrible for all of us but she falls from a greater height. manic—depressive is a disease. that was not diagnosed then so nobody kind of knew what was going on with carrie.
i went too fast, i was too much, i couldn‘t handle it. that‘s it, that‘s all. 0k. turn around this way because your rear end is to the camera. i‘m my mom‘s best friend. i share everything with my daughter. that‘s right. especially the check. far more than i ever would want to, i know what my mother feels and wants. just do what your mother says, it makes life easier. as if. there‘s a lot of it. such an insight. here‘s a reminder of some of their most iconic films. # singing in the rain # singing in the rain #just singing in the rain. # what the hell are you doing? i recognised your foul stench when i was brought on board. my
my personal life is always sort of like this, and i think i can, i think i can, and i seem to marry poorly, i have no taste in men. luckily for me gareth is good and i have two wonderful children. the imperial senate will not stand for this. when they hear... i‘m very excited about being back. i‘ve never been happy since i left. she wants to live in england. swiss cottage. i keep buying her tickets and she hasn‘t moved yet. cottage. i keep buying her tickets and she hasn't moved yet. now i'm going to come. before 11am we will speak to warwick davis who starred with carrie fisher in starwars and
davis who starred with carrie fisher in star wars and described her as an iconic figure but at the same time a down—to—earth person who just enjoyed living. that is in the next hour. the latest news and sport in a second but first the weather. wasn‘t it cold this morning. i have lovely pictures from our weather watchers. this is in cheshire, look at the frost on the ground. london, northward, frosty but beautiful start to the day and the temperatures, well, the lowest temperature was in benson in oxfordshire, minus 8.1 celsius, the cold est oxfordshire, minus 8.1 celsius, the coldest night in england of the winter so far. in time—honoured state in scotland, —8, —7, winter so far. in time—honoured state in scotland, —8, -7, 4h winter so far. in time—honoured state in scotland, —8, —7, —4, and a bit higher in belfast and st mary‘s because we have a weather front there. for most of us it is a frosty start, in the shade you will hang on to the frost for much of the day but lots of us won‘t be, we will enjoy wintry sunshine. high—pressure is in
charge of the weather, here is the weather front producing cloud charge of the weather, here is the weatherfront producing cloud in northern ireland, the far south—west of wales and south—west england. here are the temperatures which have kept up as we have gone through the night. a lot of sunshine. cold, crisp, winter sunshine with light breezes, along the east coast of england at times you might find a little more cloud which could produce the odd shower but most of us produce the odd shower but most of us will miss them. more cloud towards the west and with an approaching weather front coming in towards north—west scotland you will find more cloud building through the afternoon, so in the northwest the sunshine will be hazy. in northern ireland are you are under the influence of weather fronts so mostly cloudy, some sunny spells but for the bulk of england and wales we are looking at a fine afternoon, cold, mind you, with lots of sunshine. except in the south—west where you might find the odd splash of rain coming your way. through the evening and overnight you can see the blue hues on the chart, it means it will be cold and frosty again, but as cloud advances from the
north—west some of the frost will lift, not so pushing down into the south—eastern quarter of the uk where it will be frosty, cold obviously, and we will have freezing fog patches. maybe notjust across east anglia and southeast, we could see some further west. meanwhile, the band of rain careers across scotla nd the band of rain careers across scotland and northern ireland, getting into north—west england and north—west wales by the end of the night. tomorrow the weather fronts will continue their descent south—eastwards bringing rain with them, the cloud building ahead of them. where you have the freezing fog it will slowly lift, a lot of it into low cloud. across the far south—east tomorrow it will be quite grey, dank and feel cold. as the rain move south, behind it we see a return to brighter skies, hill fog and some showers. the main thing you will notice is it is going to be mild, except for where we have the low cloud in the south—east. good morning. i‘m victoria derbyshire... welcome to the programme.
our top story — the children‘s commissioner for england tells this programme — children are often ill—prepared to deal with potential pitfalls online, amid concerns young people are being left to ‘fend for themselves‘. you have an environment which is largely unregulated, and it is controlled by a feud very powerful companies. so whether they set out with intent or not, that is where you are —— a few. and it is ruled by terms and conditions that you have probably never read and would probably never read and would probably not understand even if you did. schoolchildren have told us this morning that some spend about three hours a day online, but were quite happy that parents monitored their activities online. also today... the men who murdered their families, we speak to those affected. it is really hard. those are the things i have to live with now. even though it has
been 14 years, i have bad dreams and all of the things that you have experienced... and over christmas week, two rough sleepers died on the streets in one kent town. how did that happen in the 21st—century? we have a look. time for the latest bbc news... here‘s anita in the bbc newsroom with a summary of today‘s news. a study has warned that children are being left to "fend for themselves" in the digital world against dangers such as bullying and grooming. the children‘s commissioner for england, anne longfield, says many children and parents are often unaware that personal information and content posted on social media sites can be sold on to third parties. children are often ill—prepared, they do not have knowledge about how they do not have knowledge about how the internet works or the social rules that could be online. often they do not have the information,
especially regarding privacy, and terms and conditions ruled that, they are largely unfathomable. they do not have the back—up to be able to do something about it, if something goes wrong. researchers in canada have found that people living near major roads appear more likely to develop dementia. they tracked more than two million people in ontario for signs of the brain disease over the course of eleven years. the scientists suggested air pollution or noisy traffic could contribute to the brain‘s decline. the turkish government say the man behind the new year‘s day gun attack in istanbul may have left the country. 39 people were killed in the attack at the reina nightclub on the first of january. deputy prime minister told a turkish broadcaster that the killer was of uighur origin and that the gunman acted alone but may have been helped by others. a record number of new cars were bought in the uk in 2016 — according to the society of motor manufacturers and traders. sales hit 2.69 million — that‘s up more than 2%
on the previous year. however, with sales growth now falling, the industry is not expecting such strong figures in 2017. this programme has learnt that a former crewe alexandra coach has denied wrongdoing after being suspended by the fa‘s safeguarding panel. paul mccann worked with young players at the club in the 1980‘s and 90‘s. he was working with the then—manager dario gradi, who is now the club‘s director. he also later volunteered as a youth coach at non—league club afc bebington, in the merseyside area. handwritten letters from princess diana are due to be auctioned in cambridge later today. written to a steward at buckingham palace, they reveal that a young prince harry was routinely in trouble at school. in one letter she described being totally overwhelmed by the number of flowers she received after prince harry‘s birth. the collection will be sold over approximately 40 lots —
with estimates ranging from £80 to £900. the auction also includes letters from the queen, written on windsor castle headed paper. a five—month—old baby elephant has been taking a dip in a swimming pool in thailand as part of a lengthy rehabilitation process to heal her injured foot. baby fah jam‘s front left leg was caught in a trap set by local villagers in november — but although the wound and her health improved significantly, she refused to put any weight on her injured leg. the treatment — which is being undertaken so she can avoid having to use a a prosthetic leg — could take up to two months. that‘s a summary of the latest bbc news — more at 10.30. thank you. do get in touch with us throughout the morning — use the #victorialive and if you text, you will be charged at the standard network rate. here‘s some sport now withjohn, and the premier league title chase is getting interesting. john is here with all of the sport... the premier league title race is hotting up. tottenham prevented chelsea
from matching the longest consecutive winning run in pl history which stands at 14 matches. the blues were beaten 2—0 at white hart lane last night, both goals coming from midfielder dele alli. before the game his manager mauricio pochettino called him the most important player to emerge in english football in recent years. and alli responded, helping tottenham to their fifth straight win so tottenham are up third, but chelsea remain five points clear at the top. for the boys, there was no need to talk before the game, everybody knew how big it was for the players and the fans come could see from the first whistle how badly the fans wa nted first whistle how badly the fans wanted to win as well. it was nice to score but it was more important to score but it was more important to get the win today. tottenham are in third place, chelsea remain five points clear at the top. and despite seeing his side slip to theirfirst league defeat since september, chelsea manager antonio conte is confident his side can continue their recent good run. it isa it is a pity, but it is important to know that this can happen. it is important now to continue to work
very hard, to improve every day. andy murray‘s winning run continues. it‘s now a career best 26 competitive matches in a row he‘s won after beating gerald melzer to reach the quarter final‘s of the qatar open. the world number one was made to work hard — he was taken to a tie break in the first set against the austrian — but took it 7—6 and the second 7—5. he looked pretty tired! as he continues his preparation for the australian open later this month, he‘s reached the final five times in melbourne, but has never won it. johanna konta‘s good form continues as well. she is one win away from her third wta final after victory over krystina pliskova in the semi finals of the shenzen open in china. she came through in straight sets. and paralympic champion kadeena cox, has defended her decision, to take part in the channel 4 reality show, the jump. uk sport have suspended her funding while she takes part in the winter sports programme. a number of celebrities have been
injured in previous series. on social media, cox said her diagnosis, of ms, had changed her outlook on life, saying her life is a ticking time bomb, and that she was going to go away and enjoy ski—ing. that‘s all for the moment. i‘ll be back at half past with the latest. thank you. people who live near major roads have higher rates of alzheimers and other forms of dementia, research published in the medical journal the lancet suggests. at the moment, very little is known about the causes of dementia. lets talk to our various guests who we have here... i am waiting for their names! with us in the studio is drjames pickett, head of research at alzheimer‘s society, and in our glasgow newsroom is professorjune andrews from stirling university, who‘s the author of dementia — the one—stop guide. doctorjames, this
doctor james, this is doctorjames, this is not as simple as headlines would suggest, can you and pick this for our audience? yes, causes of dementia of extreme interest but very complicated. we know there are things we are born with, genetics play a role but there are things which we have control over, like diet and lifestyle. what we are beginning to learn, the new area, is how the environment and where we live plays a role as well. this single study is beginning early research in a big study beginning to unpick that for us. june, does this study mean that if you move near a major road, with traffic noise and air pollution, you are more likely to get dementia? if you move to the countryside you are less likely?m is really important that nobody moves house on the basis of the study. what it does is it reinforces things we've known for quite a long time. although the origins of
dementia are quite complicated, it is quite clear that air quality, where you live, makes a difference to how well you are. that's a quality inside of a care home or a house. it is unsurprising that environmental air quality, the kind of thing an issue near a environmental air quality, the kind of thing an issue neara main environmental air quality, the kind of thing an issue near a main road, will make a difference. there is research indicating this but there is no need to move house on the back of this? why not? there are things that can make more of a difference than the place you live. exercise makes a difference and what you eat and drink, staying well hydrated and even temperature in your home can make a difference. moving house is such a huge turmoil for people that if you are already affected by dementia, moving house itself can make things worse. it is important not to overreact to this one piece of research showing there is an association, that is not necessarily causal. that is very important. we are not saying that if you moved by
that road, you will get dementia, but what we are saying is that you may be more likely to get dementia, or people who are more likely to get dementia live by busy roads. that's correct. yes, air pollution could be one factor, disturbance and we know that sleep is important, disturbance in sleep and stress could have a role but there are reasons, asjean says, you cannot link one thing to the other. the study does not show that moving away from the road reduces risk but the evidence suggests that people who grew up in the country are at higher risk than those who grew up in urban environments. we are learning single pieces of information but we had to ta ke pieces of information but we had to take a bigger picture of all of the evidence. there are hundreds of things you do in your life, some of the things you know about, which increase your risk, others which reduce it. it is the whole footprint
across your life. i agree with james, one of the things to do is to look at what you can do which will make the biggest difference. some of the things include rest, which is really ha rd to the things include rest, which is really hard to get a proper sleep if you are living near a noisy road. there are things that you can do to improve the chances of someone sleeping well when they have dementia, dementia is self is a symptom of the disease. there are a lot of things you can do to make symptoms easy without affecting the underlying disease, which is what we would like to do eventually but at the moment we isn't much —— there isn't much we can do for that. so there has to be more research done, which is being done, why do we know so little about the specific causes? both if you have talked about a myriad of reasons which can help but why do we know so little about the causes of it? your brain is a very complicated organ, separated from
your body by the blood brain barrier, making research between the two very complicated. we know that the fragile brain can have problems which do not translate into dementia symptoms. that is right there are so many things you can do to keep symptoms down. —— that is why. there are a lot of different causes, vascular disease, outsiders disease, so vascular disease, outsiders disease, so many and if you found the cause of one of them, you may not get the others. it is very complicated. i'm glad it is being discussed to day, sometimes in it then use it can be oversimplified, which is frustratingly for the families affected. is it one of the issues of ourtimes? affected. is it one of the issues of our times? definitely, we have not invested enough in dementia research for many years. which is why we know so little about the brain. that is beginning to change, our organisation is creating a new institute in london to tackle the causes of dementia as well. i‘m hopeful for the future that we will
begin to invest. we always say that more research is needed and funding as well, we are beginning to address one of the issues of our time. in the meantime, if people know the practical things they can to until this wonderful research comes through, i'm glad that research is being done, knowing what to do in the meantime is vital. you mentioned getting a decent night of sleep, what else? exercise? that makes a difference, you need fresh air and not near a busy road. health checks over 40. eat well, stay hydrated, act on underlying health problems. if you have diabetes or high blood pressure, manage it properly. there are a lot of things you can do and information like that is on the alzheimer's society website. what is good for your heart is good for your head. thank you very much, both of you. the government is being urged to act after two homeless
people died in the same town over christmas, we have been to chatham in kent to find out more. this morning we‘ve been talking about the men who murder their own families. what causes them to carry out acts of such unspeakable brutality? leading experts have told this programme we should be doing more to spot warning signs and patterns of behaviour — things like physical abuse, a loss of control and terrifying threats — which should be triggering concern and action. but what about the families who this advice is too late for? our reporterjames longman has been to meet one woman whose children were killed by a former partner. her story is upsetting. denise williams met her ex—husband stephen wilson when she was 16. brett was born in 1993, and bradley the following year. even though i was living a horrible life of abuse and putting up with drunken outbursts, just having the children seemed to make it all 0k. denise took her sons and left
stephen several times. she left for the last time in february 2002. she didn‘t take brett and bradley with her that time but was planning on going back for them. he rang me, and he said i havejust killed the kids and i‘m going to kill myself. and at that, you think, listen for the boys, listen for the boys in the background, can you hear them? and i couldn‘t hear them. stephen murdered his two sons by stabbing them in their necks. first he killed his younger son, bradley, who was seven years old, and then eight—year—old brett. i remember going and just seeing the children through a glass, like they‘re in a fish tank, and i identified the bodies. it was... horrible, absolutely horrible.
yeah. stephen wilson was given two life sentences for their murders. denise‘s story shows a cycle of abuse ending in tragedy, but what about when the very children targeted manage to survive? david potts attacked his partner‘s family, including her three children. somebody broke through the back door. but before they did that, they went and bought — was it two litres of petrol? and poured it all over the house, on the floor, over the sofas and up the stairs and everywhere, except from on the upstairs. and then my mum and eldest brother went to try and stop him but he just lit the fueljust in time, and them three there died.
zac was four years old when his mum‘s new partner broke into the family home and set it on fire. zac survived, along with his half sister kay—lynn, who was 18 at the time. his mum, tracy, and 15—year—old half brother, sean, were killed. zac was taken to a children‘s hospital for treatment. he spent the next two months there. when i found out who died, i was crying, and when i think about it, it makes me a emotional. zac is now nine and living with his dad. i would like think of what it would be like if my mum was around, and what house i would be in, either the same house
or another house. yes, you think about the practicalities a lot, don't you? you miss having your mum around, don't you? yeah. it would be nice to have mum here as well. like, somebody to, an extra person to accompany me. let‘s talk now to dr jane monckton—smith — a criminologist at the university of gloucestershire. she‘s currently leading one of the biggest studies of domestic murder in the uk. hello to you. good morning. this text from simon goes to the heart of it. my heart bleeds for them and what horrific things they had to endure. why do these situations arise and what could lead to these men killing their own children and partners? we have to try and stop this before it happens. the poor boy having to watch that happen to his mum and brother and surviving to live his life without them makes me
cry. what leads some men to do this? well, i think we need to look at the dynamics of domestic abuse and especially coercive control. is there always a link? i would say a lwa ys there always a link? i would say always a link. perhaps we could put it at 98%, but really, even though most of these cases don‘t come to the notice of the police or there is no arrest record before these things happen, families, friends, communities can very often spot some of the danger signs, especially if they know what they are. the families that i‘ve worked with a lwa ys families that i‘ve worked with always say if only we‘d known what to look for. when you say something we can look for, sometimes there is physical evidence when somebody beats up a partner, relatives will know if somebody is not allowed out of the house, or not allowed to call them or text them, won‘t they? but you never actually think, do you, he might kill them? you just don‘t think that. nobody thinks murder
will come into their lives, do they? it is our worst nightmare. but from all the research that‘s been done internationally and certainly from the study i‘m doing, there are some inconsistencies in the way that this certain group of men behave, and it is mainly men, over 95% of cases it is mainly men, over 95% of cases it is men. the consistency is spread across domestic abuse. these are domestic homicides that have extended out a little bit. is there a lwa ys extended out a little bit. is there always a pattern rather than somebody out of the blue suddenly murdering their partner or children? ican murdering their partner or children? i can say with some confidence, and other researchers have said with confidence, that these are always planned. they are never spontaneous andi planned. they are never spontaneous and i think that‘s where we get misled. that means somebody can't snap,in misled. that means somebody can't snap, in inverted commas, if it is premeditated? he just snapped, snap, in inverted commas, if it is premeditated? hejust snapped, is very often the reason we put forward
for these things happening but that is not helping us stop it because it is not helping us stop it because it is to misinterpret what has happened. it looks sometimes as if they‘ve just snapped because we don‘t recognise the antecedents, the stalking, the escalation and things like that. in most cases there is no obvious violence. what do you expect other people to do then? there is no obvious violence. you think you know, he won‘t let her out, what are you going to do? ring the police and say i think my brother—in—law won‘t let my sister out? they will not be able to do much. it would be difficult on that information to do much but you must remember we have two new course of conduct defences, coercive control and stalking. so the police have more powers to act earlier in the situations. what i am saying to you if you are a relative orfriend and saying to you if you are a relative or friend and you think there is an issue,is or friend and you think there is an issue, is it yourjob to collect some evidence and present it to the
police in order to get them to act, or is it enough to say, i think there is an issue here, please help? the best thing is to speak to the person involved. you have to speak ina varied person involved. you have to speak in a varied nonjudgemental way because it is very difficult to leave. in fact, because it is very difficult to leave. infact, leaving because it is very difficult to leave. in fact, leaving is the biggest triggerfor this kind of behaviour, this kind of family annihilation, so it has to be done carefully. what i would suggest is anybody in this kind of situation and any families who are concerned, and any families who are concerned, and they are usually concerned, can phone domestic violence helpline is, stalking helplines, to get some more information and perhaps get referred toa information and perhaps get referred to a safety plan. and that might involve what? what might a safety plan involve? as we know, mums will say don‘t do anything because that‘s going to make him worse. yes they do, absolutely. a generalised comment but we all recognise it. that is what happens most of the time because that is an absolutely valid comment to make because one of
the biggest trigger is, as i‘vejust said, is when there is a separation. a lot of these men have separation anxiety. so it does make it very difficult. that does not mean there cannot be a safety plan around that family and that woman. 0k, cannot be a safety plan around that family and that woman. ok, so people should not feel that it is futile if they ring one of the helplines and support groups? not at all. steph on facebook says i got out of an abc relationship in 2015 and it was difficult because i had nowhere to live —— abusive relationship. i wish i could have left years before but it wasn‘t easy but i‘m glad i did. me and my daughter are putting our lives back together again and i‘m awaiting counselling and i‘m happier than i ever have been. mark says the stabbings, the arson attacks, they are awful. i lost my partner to cancer in 2011, that in itself is hard to cope with and i cannot begin to imagine how one copes with such awful events. my
love to the victims. this text, denise and the poor boy are so strong in what they have had to deal with, people can only imagine what they have had to go through and i hope they find peace in the future. why do people need to be so cruel? are these cases finally on the rise? there is some evidence to suggest, especially in the united states, where there was a very sharp rise after 1990. the figures went up to about 2007. we are seeing a rise in this kind of murder. but that may be just because there is more visibility of it. but the domestic homicides themselves are not rising. so it‘s arising within that group. thank you for coming on the programme. if you want to read more about this you can find an article on the bbc news site and if you want to see the film it is on our programme page. abc .co .uk/ victoria. —— bbc.co.uk/
victoria. the deaths of two rough sleepers in the same town over christmas week, has prompted calls for government legislation on homelessness in the winter. the two men died within a few streets of each other in chatham in kent — it‘s feared they may have frozen to death. currently there‘s no legal obligation for local authorities to provide help, but some say that should change. lesley ashmall spent the evening in chatham. hi, leslie. yes, christmas eve, busy shopping centre, one man found dead, and thenjust shopping centre, one man found dead, and then just a few days later another man died just round the corner. last night i went out with a local charity checking all the people, plenty of them still sleeping on the streets last night in the bitter cold. they went out checking they‘re 0k. the high street was mobbed, christmas eve, people doing shopping. it was 11:30am when somebody realised he had passed
away. if you look at the flowers left over the last week, pictures, he left all of his stuff and this is where michael stayed. michael mcclos key where michael stayed. michael mccloskey was where michael stayed. michael mcclos key was in where michael stayed. michael mccloskey was in his 40s, a father and grandfather. a run of bad luck left him on the streets. michael was always in top spirits, a great guy, we st always in top spirits, a great guy, west ham supporter, so we always talked a lot about football. he was a nice guy, you can see from the amount of flowers left and reading some of the cards. and then just a few days later a few streets away another person died. sadly great past as well. it is two too many, the council needs to do something. why are these guys left out here? why are these guys left out here? why aren't we looking after them? there are still people on the street as you can see. when are the council going to say this is enough. this is a very big problem. it's it‘s not known how either man died
but their friends it‘s not known how either man died but theirfriends think it‘s not known how either man died but their friends think the weather could have been to blame. definitely the cold. it's got to be the cold because they had no blankets on, definitely the cold. how do you survive? we popped into mcdonald's now and again, we have a place up the road, try and find anything warm in the shops. i have three or four coats on, three or four trousers, three pairs of socks, two sleeping bags and still freezing in the morning. what should the government do? the government needs to come down and see the homeless people who are actually homeless and give them are actually homeless and give them a place to stay, do you know what i mean? we are all suffering, we are not all bad people. there is not enough places for people to go. there are more homes in chatham than people think. i'm a victim of circumstances, i had my mrs and that andl circumstances, i had my mrs and that and i was working but i'm down on my
look —— luck. and i was working but i'm down on my look -- luck. i'm struggling on the streets. i have two or three fits a day and if it weren't for my friend shane being around me i would be dead myself. medved has said it follows national guidelines and offers accommodation when the weather falls below freezing for three consecutive nights. but, for shane and barry, those guidelines aren‘t enough. we asked medway council for an interview. they said no — but they told us: it is very sad to see people sleeping on the streets and to hear of the recent deaths. we would urge anyone sleeping rough to visit our contact point in gillingham, so we can provide advice on all of the options available. thank you, lesley ashmall. we can speak now to balbir chatrik from the homelessness charity centrepoint, andrew faris who was homeless and sleeping rough for five years,
and rick henderson who is the chief executive of homeless link. let me ask all of you — how is it possible that people can be left to potentially freeze to death on the streets of britain in 2016. we are already into 2017 now and we find even now, last night, for example, people are suffering, there is severe weather, nobody has any obligation to check on them. there is no figures on how many people die every night or every year published, as homeless people, they are regarded as homeless people. yes, they are missing. it is really sad to know people are dying because of the cold weather. rick, you are local to the area. this is sort of beyond belief, isn‘t it? local to the area. this is sort of beyond belief, isn't it?” local to the area. this is sort of beyond belief, isn't it? iwish it was, these two cases local to where
i live are tragic because it happened within a few days of each other. the fact is these are not isolated incidents. there is an annual roll call of deaths of people on the streets, often as a direct result of the cold weather but for all kinds of reasons. this is happening because, although there are some guidelines, some practice around this area, we call it the severe weather emergency protocol, swep, which means the local authority should trigger the provision of emergency accommodation. this is optional, it is not a statutory legal requirement, but we'd like to think it should be. there is also no legal requirement to investigate in any significant way to the deaths of people on the street. there are no serious case reviews, for example. something we would like to see. it isa something we would like to see. it is a bad situation but not an isolated situation. this happens all of the time. it is absolutely disgraceful in the 21st—century, having people dying on the streets, it is unacceptable. we need to work
together to change that. but it's notjust together to change that. but it's not just about people together to change that. but it's notjust about people on together to change that. but it's not just about people on the streets, we know young people in particular are sleeping on night buses, they are sleeping in sta i rwe lls, buses, they are sleeping in stairwells, because it's not safe for them to be on the streets because young people in particular as our research has shown, they don't want to be on the streets, so a quarter would go home with a strangerjust for a place to stay. about 10% will actually emit a crime. so you've got a police cell for the night. another 10% will actually do something to get themselves admitted to a&e just to be off the streets. why don't local authorities have an obligation to look after people like michael mcclos key look after people like michael mccloskey and greg. sadly we only know his first name. i don‘t know, we have questioned the councils... were they not vulnerable enough? that is true, in that case it is right. we have found that the
people who are sleeping rough, of our friends who are sleeping rough, often you find people on the streets in london, if they are stood up, they are not regarded as homeless but if they are sitting down they are not regarded as homeless, if they are laying down for six days in a row, somebody may come along to see if they can get them help. where is the priority to see a human being on the street and say, i need to do something...” have to read you this e—mail from sue. in 2002 i befriended a rough sleeper in bath, he suffered from mental illness, physically abused at home he was an alcoholic. he was physically strong but vulnerable and was known to local police because he was known to local police because he was prone to violence. he himself was prone to violence. he himself was subjected to frequent violent attacks why drunks and other rough
sleepers. he died on new year‘s eve in 2004 having been stabbed more than 12 times, the perpetrator is still free despite up to 20 people witnessing the attack. every witness was threatened by the attacker, known to many of them, with their lives. should they have dared give evidence? if i were to sum up the lives of rough sleepers, it is petrifying, turbulent and isolating, and without hope. the fact is, the law is not strong enough when it comes to individuals. they test bumrah bella tabor titters arbitrary. royalty need, if you —— they test vulnerability. but by and large if you are a single person without dependents, the only thing you are legally entitled to is advice and assistance. clearly that is not enough, we need a system allowing people to get off
the streets, and get people into accommodation. we need to prevent people from a riding on the streets in the first place, people are being evicted from private tenancies and cannot solve issues before they are evicted. we know the relationship breakdowns causes people to wind up on the street and you cannot stop people arriving on the streets completely but if you have the resources and will to do it, you can make sure that people do not live on the streets because when they do that, chances are they will die on the streets. is that fair? absolutely, but we need to know the scale and nature of the problem. if you look at figures, they underestimate how many rough sleepers there are. in london, there are about 8000 people sleeping rough last year, about 10% of young people. we know that it is an underestimate. we need to know the scale of the problem so we can do about the right solutions,
without that we cannot develop them. are they being developed by anyone with power, even without knowing the scale of the problem?” with power, even without knowing the scale of the problem? i think the government is doing some work, this reduction bill is going through parliament and will prevent homelessness. rick is right, if young people are on the streets, we pick them up. how did it happen to you? my thing was that i was in commercial business, is state, and i found myself homeless and was auden the streets for 5.5 years —— estate. how did that happen? it happens very quickly, it happens within three months of you losing your property, and onto the streets. it is so quick, repossession takes place very quickly. you owned a house? a very large house, with cars, business, offices... and your business went down the drain? in one go. they did
not care, they could have given me another 60 days to swap everything, you plead with them, let me solve it in 30 or 60 days... but in two or three months, that‘s it, you are out. give us the keys. then people think you must have friends who you could cap on their sofa, or a relative? it does not happen that easily. because you do not want to impose yourself? not only that, it is not just impose yourself? not only that, it is notjust pride but when you think you have those friends, they are not around. they disappear suddenly because you need money and accommodation, you will be a burden on theirfamily accommodation, you will be a burden on their family and with how they operate. what i have found myself, it is such a hard way of getting out of homelessness. why did the last five and a half years... i could have done it in one or two years, don‘t drink or smoke, do this or do that... but the system itself takes you along that path where you have to go through hoops, one after the
next. there is no counsel that i could go to and say, i need help from you. can you help me? i‘m a single person, ijust need one room andi single person, ijust need one room and i need to get my life together. why do you need to be out of there for so many years? that‘s the problem. councils need have an obligation and if they want to come with our charity every night, and see the homeless guys in central london, if you want to do a walk around, ican london, if you want to do a walk around, i can introduce you to 50-100 around, i can introduce you to 50—100 people every night on the streets of central london. some are very young, and some are very old. angela, she is in her 50s. david is in his 60s. these guys are vulnerable. let me read a couple more messages from people watching you talk about this. anthony on facebook says that the uk is a shameful place for homeless people with woeful care. another says it is heartbreaking, due to a relationship
brea kd owns heartbreaking, due to a relationship breakdowns they nearly found themselves rough sleeping before christmas, they ran al gore boot camp so they knew how cold it could be, let alone sleeping outside —— outdoor boot camps. thank you for talking about this with us this morning. thank you for coming on the programme. still to come, we‘ll talk to the star wars actor warwick davis about his friend the american actress carrie fisher. a memorial service takes place for carrie and her mother debbie reynolds, who died within 24 hours of each other over christmas. the winner of the best art vinyl award will be announced tonight — but what makes a vinyl album cover iconic? we‘ll be discussing with some experts shortly. and some of the nominees for the award tonight. slightly later than normal... all of the news.
a study has warned that children are being left to "fend for themselves" in the digital world — against dangers such as bullying and grooming. the children‘s commissioner for england, anne longfield, says many children and parents are often unaware that personal information and content posted on social media sites can be sold on to third parties. that‘s kind of scary, to be honest. just the fact that they know what you‘re saying and you‘re doing, it is creepy. researchers in canada have found that people living near major roads appear more likely to develop dementia. they tracked more than two million people in ontario for signs of the brain disease over the course of 11 years. the scientists suggested air pollution or noisy traffic could contribute to the brain‘s decline. a record number of new cars were bought in the uk in 2016 — according to the society of motor manufacturers and traders. sales hit 2.69 million — that‘s up more than 2% on the previous year. however, with sales growth now falling the industry isn‘t expecting such strong figures in 2017.
migrants should be expected to learn english before coming to the uk, or attend language classes when they arrive, according to a group of mps and peers. the cross—party group said speaking english was "the key to full participation in our society and economy". they also said ministers should consider letting different parts of the uk set their own immigration policy. the government said it was spending £20 million on english language provision. this programme has learnt that a former crewe alexandra coach has denied wrongdoing after being suspended by the fa‘s safeguarding panel. paul mccann worked with young players at the club in the 1980‘s and 90‘s. he was working with the then—manager dario gradi, who is now the club‘s director. he also later volunteered as a youth coach at non—league club afc bebington, in the merseyside area. handwritten letters from princess diana are due to be auctioned in cambridge later today. written to a steward at buckingham palace, they reveal that a young
prince harry was routinely in trouble at school. in one letter dated 17th october, 1992, she says how both young princes "are well and enjoying boarding school a lot, although harry is constantly in trouble!" the collection will be sold over approximately 40 lots — with estimates ranging from £80 to £900. the auction also includes letters from the queen, written on windsor castle—headed paper. now it‘s time for the sport... tottenham prevented chelsea from matching the longest consecutive winning run in pl history as the blues were beaten 2—0 at white hart lane last night, to throw open the title race. dele alli got both goals with two headers. chelsea remain five points clear at the top, tottenham are up to third. andy murray‘s winning run continues, he‘s extended his to a career best 26 consecutive matches following his victory over gerald melzer at the qatar open. he‘s into the quarter finals
after a tough straight sets win over the austrian as he prepares for his assault on the australian open later this month, one of two major titles the world number one is yet to win. and johanna konta‘s good run of form continues as well. she is one win away from reaching her third wta final. she beat krystina pliskova, to reach the semi finals of the shenzen open in china. and that‘s all the sport for now, i‘ll have more on the bbc news channel throughout the day. thank you. a private memorial service will take place later today for american acting icons carrie fisher and her mother debbie reynolds. family members and close friends will attend. 60—year—old carrie fisher died last tuesday after suffering cardiac arrest on a plane travelling from london to los angeles. the next day, her mother — debbie reynolds — died from a stroke at the age of 84. her son, carrie‘s brother, todd fisher, says she died of a "broken heart" following her daughters death. the pair had been taking part in a hbo documentary which airs this weekend — here‘s an extract from it. mommy, mommy, i‘m home.
you cannot keep that phone. that‘s from when they first invented cellphones. it works fine. it‘s ridiculous. just dandy. i have to go and start rehearsals for star wars seven... ...ty—two. i‘m concerned because my mother is not feeling well. is this for the show? i forgot i had it. that‘s what‘s good about losing your memory. there‘s so many surprises. it's like the old days in a way but i'm like the old days, so... my family in particular can overwhelm most people. it wasn't just my mother that was super famous. my dad was a world—class singer. they were the couple of america, one heck of a marketing tool. my mother, she‘ll forget she‘s not 35. age is horrible for all of us but she falls from a greater height. manic—depressive is a disease. that was not diagnosed then
so nobody kind of knew what was going on with carrie. i went too fast, i was too much, i couldn‘t handle it. that's it, that's all. 0k. turn around this way because your rear end is to the camera. i‘m my mom‘s best friend. i share everything with my daughter. that‘s right. especially the check. far more than i ever would want to, i know what my mother feels and wants. just do what your mother says, it makes life easier. as if. there‘s a lot of it. it's it‘s really moving. here‘s a reminder of some of their most iconic films. # singing in the rain #just singing in the rain.# what the hell are you doing? i recognised your foul stench when i was brought on board. my personal life is always sort
of like this, and i think i can, i think i can, and i seem to marry poorly, i have no taste in men. luckily for me gareth is good and i have two wonderful children. the imperial senate will not stand for this. when they hear... don‘t act so surprised, your highness. i‘m very excited about being back. i‘ve never been happy since i left. she wants to live in england. swiss cottage. i keep buying her tickets and she hasn‘t moved yet. now i‘m going to come. let‘s speak to the actor warwick davis — he played an ewok
in the third star wars film, return of thejedi aged 11. he was also a friend of carrie fisher. thank you forjoining us. at age 11 what are your memories of her then? i remember carrie as princess leia, being a huge star wars fan at the time. on first meeting her that‘s really who i saw her as being, this iconic characterfrom my favourite films. but as i got to know her during the filming i realised she was a really funny, fun person to be around and was very caring as well towards me having to work in the hot ewok costume as we did, and we had the seem to play together, the scene where i found her crashed on her speeder bike and ta ke her crashed on her speeder bike and take her back to the ewok village. i was fortu nate take her back to the ewok village. i was fortunate to get to know her at that young age and we have kept in
touch ever since. how did you become friends? how come there was a connection? i think it'sjust because i was the youngest member of the cast and i would often just hang around, even when i wasn‘t filming i would be around the set being a fan of the films anyway. and also over the years you do keep in touch because we would often see each other at press junkets and dvd launches and star wars celebration events and i got to interview carried live on stage several times and she was always one of my favourite guests to interview —— carrie. the fans adored her as well and it was a really easy show to do, the ones with carrie. she was a very open person, she was open about her addiction and mental health issues, which she said she thought were caused in part by her life in show business. what would you say about that? this business is quite stressful. but it has its upsides
and it has its downsides. carrie seemed to where the famed quite well. she wasn‘t somebody who played celebrity particularly. she was very down—to—earth and kind of very in touch with the fans and with reality. but obviously it did take its toll on her. but i can fully appreciate that as well. she always had a lot of time for people. that‘s quite something when you‘re one of the most recognised people on the planet having been in some of the most iconic films in existence. but she remained who she was. it didn‘t change her in anyway. you last saw her injuly, change her in anyway. you last saw her in july, did change her in anyway. you last saw her injuly, did you say? how was she? she was great. i was interviewing her live on stage in front of 4000 people. she was as sharp witted and as funny as i remember her always being. you just
never know what you‘re going to get. she was there with her wonderful dog gary, of course, they went everywhere with her. they were inseparable, be it on a red carpet or on inseparable, be it on a red carpet orona inseparable, be it on a red carpet or on a stage, gary would be there with her and he attacked me at that last meeting on the stage in front of everyone, which was funny, not as bad as it seems. she was fa ntastically bad as it seems. she was fantastically funny. i remember carrie with a smile on my face, very fondly, she was always very funny and would make you laugh. thank you for joining and would make you laugh. thank you forjoining us. warwick, we appreciate your time. warwick davis on carrie fisher. still to come. as music lovers re—discover vinyl — we ask what it takes to make an album cover stand out. we‘ll be talking to some people who were behind some of the most famous album sleeves. four people have been arrested in the us city of chicago over a video live—streamed on facebook, in which a bound and gagged man was assaulted. we are going to play a clip and you
mightfind we are going to play a clip and you might find some of the images we are about to show distressing. police say the man being attacked has special needs. his assailants can be heard making derogatory statements against white people and president—elect donald trump. in one part of the video the attackers used a knife to remove part of the victim‘s scalp. speaking at a news conference, superintendent eddie johnson of the chicago police department expressed his disgust. it's it‘s sickening. you know, it makes you wonder, what would make individuals treat somebody like that. i‘ve been a cop for 28 years and i‘ve seen things you shouldn‘t see ina and i‘ve seen things you shouldn‘t see in a lifetime but it still amazes me how you still see things that you just shouldn‘t. you looked at that video, they were just, stupidity. chicago police say an adult man with learning difficulties is believed to be the victim. he was found walking around the city‘s west side area during the early hours in a disorientated state. he was traumatised fairly good. like
isaid, it he was traumatised fairly good. like i said, it took most of the night for him to calm down enough for him to be able to talk to us. detectives say careful consideration will be given to watch charges, if any, followed their investigation of the four suspects now in custody. although they are adults they are 18. kits make stupid mistakes. they are young adults and they make stupid decisions. that certainly will be part of whether or not we seeka will be part of whether or not we seek a hate crime to determine whether or not this is sincere or just stupid ranting and raving. much more on that story throughout the day on bbc news. it has just gone 10:50am. good morning. we know that in an age of live streaming more and more of us are actually buying vinyl albums — while it still only accounts for around 2.5% of the overall music market, — it is a growing market.
which means artists are spending more time trying to create iconic album covers — in a hope of emulating some of these iconic images. look at these. you will probably recognise all of them and you will all have your favourites and no doubt on some of these. tonight the winner of the 2016 best art vinyl award will be announced — so how does a record sleeve become iconic and what were the best works of art in 2016? let‘s speak now to musician kate jackson — she designed road movies herself — and she‘s one of the nominees for tonight‘s award. pete fowler‘s famous and celebrated for his record sleeve art — he designed most of the albums for welsh band the super furry animals. andrew heeps is from art vinyl which holds the awards every year. rob o‘connor‘s been involved with creating iconic album covers such as parklife by blur — his company stylorouge is also nominated for tonight‘s best art vinyl award — creating the sleeve for kula shaker‘s new album and jake bugg‘s album on my one.
welcome all of you. we have some amazing examples here. as you are behind the awards tonight what are you going to pick out was my cake is up you going to pick out was my cake is upforan award, you going to pick out was my cake is up for an award, david pallett‘s black star, describe why that is iconic. —— david bowie. black star, describe why that is iconic. -- david bowie. time will tell. we‘ve gone through a very difficult year. i will hold it up. it has been a difficult year with what has gone on but what can be removed is this which is a great record which has influenced people‘s decisions about being great design as well. to create something like this which has so much intrigue, the album cover its self, months after its release, people were discovering things, if you shone it in the light. kate, would you mind putting the record on? year. that is black star down there. using my dj skills,
it is black star. people's influence on to which record sleeve they particularly like this often come from the music as well. a lot of the time it is up to these guys we are with today to take the concept of that music and turn it into a visual thing that we can all enjoy. how do you do that? take the music and turn it into it? yes. it is different with everyjob, we have done several over the years as a company and what is difficult is making it specific for each artist, each artist has a specific requirement. give me an example. hold that one up. that is jake's cover. he has had some which have relied heavily on his image and he wanted some part for this one and we sourced the correct artist for
him for that project. whether it is described as iconic or not is neither here nor there. kate, in terms of you designing this, why did you do it? hold it up so everyone can see it. the camera will find it. iam in an can see it. the camera will find it. i am in an unusual position of being the musical artist and visual artist, so when i was writing the music i suppose i had a kind of idea of what i wanted the sleeve to look like. i don‘t know if that‘s true for all musical artists. i don‘t know whether, say, for example, musicians come to you and described to you what they want or whether you ta ke to you what they want or whether you take the music and then interpret that. we do take the music and interpret it and if we don't like the music that gives you a quandary. pete spoke about this. pete does what we do and listens to something else we do like to inspire us. it's interesting that you do design your own cove rs because interesting that you do design your own covers because we always try and make our designs look like they have come from the artist. for me that is
paramount because we don't want people to think that is some design agency. absolutely, who is making money out of this. that doesn‘t seem to be very creative although it clearly is. let‘s talk about some of these. what inspires you? talking about the inspiration for it, i've been working with the super furry animals since 96, i think. coming up with something new every time. the first record i designed for them was their second album radiator, and i was givena their second album radiator, and i was given a list of working titles for the songs, and also some recordings and demos and finished tracks and was told by the band if you can get inspiration from these that would be great, if not, do what you like, which is quite scary. have you like, which is quite scary. have you got it? no. what was the cover of radiator. it was a bear walking down the street scene the evil reflection of itself in the mirror.
they went on tour injapan and a generalist explained to them what the album was about it was about shinto religion and they were like, 0k. everyone has their own interpretation in our world. that is the beauty of it. when you look at one of your favourite album covers it arouses different emotions. i look at dare and i could cry because i was so happy at the time. it is not particularly iconic, itjust means so much to me. the winner announced tonight? it will be announced tonight? it will be announced tonight? it will be announced tonight in london. put us out of our misery. it will stay secret until about nine o‘clock tonight. it is a celebration of what we do, and we do a montage of the 15 nominees. obviously there is ultimately a winner —— 50 nominees. it isa ultimately a winner —— 50 nominees. it is a celebration of record cover art. what is lovely is i‘m talking about the best art vinyl awards and i‘m surrounded by people whose work
i have bought without knowing, realising it. ithink i have bought without knowing, realising it. i think that‘s what it‘s about. these guys are sometimes the unsung heroes behind creating these lovely images. the artwork is these lovely images. the artwork is the magic portal into the music itself. it's the thing that you have in your bedroom. you can even put it up in your bedroom. you can even put it up on your bedroom wall if you want to. that's the difference to me between holding a beautiful piece. i‘m going to stop there because it‘s the end of the programme but good luck. we are back tomorrow at 9am. thank you for your company. it isa it is a beautiful day out there if you wear a fewer layers, mighty cold start to the day, widespread and ha rd start to the day, widespread and hard frost, this is the scene in london taken by a weather watcher earlier. the frost will persist in the shade all day, beautiful sunshine for the majority, west devon and cornwall, pembrokeshire,
turning cloudier. for most of us, too — turning cloudier. for most of us, too—5 turning cloudier. for most of us, too — 5 degrees is the best we can offer briefly through the early afternoon. the frost returns. particularly for england and wales. in northern ireland and scotland after an early in northern ireland and scotland afteran early dip in northern ireland and scotland after an early dip in temperatures they will rise again with rain coming in from the west, some sharp bursts pushing into the far north—west of england and wales in the night. there could be some ice on cold services in northern england and scotland. frost could be an issue further south. less in the way of sunshine, different day tomorrow, the rain pushing from the north—west towards the south—east. some sharp bursts. it will be a raw day, gradually turning milderfor the northwest. this is bbc news and these are the top stories developing at 11am. new car sales reach an all—time high
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