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this is bbc news. i'm clive myrie. the headlines at 8pm: jeremy corbyn has set out labour's policy on brexit, but it's still a little unclear where he stands on eu migration. we're not wedded to free movement through the eu as a point of principle. i don't want to be misinterpreted — nor do we rule it out. mr corbyn has also pulled back from recommending a pay cap on top earners. police have named the child found badly injured in york yesterday, who later died. katie rough was seven. a 15—year—old girl is still being questioned. also coming up — there's been a sharp rise in psychiatric attendances at accident and emergency units in england over the past four years. other figures show record numbers of nhs patients in england have faced long waits in a&e departments. for the first time, researchers have filmed chimpanzees making and using tools to get access to water. good evening and
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welcome to bbc news. jeremy corbyn has been under pressure to spell out labour's position on immigration today — one of the major issues in the eu referendum. in a speech in peterborough, he was expected to say that the party could ditch its support for the freedom of movement rules that allow eu citizens to move to the uk. but he later said he wouldn't rule it out and told the bbc he did not think immigration was too high. here's our political editor, laura kuenssberg. a welcome for him on the platform, but will you welcome what was billed as his vision for britain after brexit. whether they voted to leave or remain, everybody voted for a better future. on the biggest question, how many eu
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citizens can keep coming to britain to move freely, what was his verdict? we're not wedded to free movement of people. but i don't want to be misinterpreted, nor will we rule it out. we will demand that they give us the power to intervene decisively and prevent workers from here or abroad being used are exploited to undermine pay and conditions at work. the original version of his speech had suggested freedom of movement might be ditched but instead he wants to tighten up rules that allowed foreign workers to be exploited. does that mean you want to see more or fewer people? from other parts of the european union coming to the uk? it probably means there will be fewer but i think we should also recognise there is a massive contribution made to health service, education, manufacturing industry by people from all over europe. what kind of reduction?
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i cannot put a figure on it because we've not seen the work that has been done. is it a question of principle? employers should not be allowed to tear up existing arrangements in the construction industry or other industries. we've asked you whether you think the levels are too high and you said you don't think the levels are too high. have you changed your mind? no, my mind is clear, we have to end the exploitation going on. we need to maintaina exploitation going on. we need to maintain a market access within europe and we need to ensure there are good relations between all communities. do you or do you not want to end the freedom of movement? i want us to have market access and trade with europe. that means continuing freedom of movement. let's see what comes out of the negotiation. mr corbyn was in peterborough, a town whose face has been changed by immigration. the kind of place where labour mps worry that leader's approach does them no favours. immigration has been good for peterborough but the amount of immigration has not been
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good for peterborough. a lot of foreigners are quite nice but the system cannot cope. i find labour quite confusing and i don't understand what the issues are. jeremy corbyn hopes he might have more appeal on how we earn our pounds and pence. farfrom far from party policy yet, but income limits could be on the way. i think you have to look at each company and say, is it right that the chief executive earns 100 times those that are doing the work that keeps the company going. after being expected to change direction, in the end he more or less stayed on the spot. for his supporters, it's sticking to principles that makes him their hero. for many of his mps, it's stubbornness that means the party could be doomed to fail. one ofjeremy corbyn‘s shadow cabinet, the international trade spokesman, barry gardiner, is at westminster. it's good to see you. thanks for
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being with us. after that speech, there were lots of buts, ifs, howevers, maybes, probablies, what is labour's policy on free movement? policy on free movement is that we wa nt policy on free movement is that we want people to come to this country who can improve our economic growth, who can improve our economic growth, who can improve our economic growth, who can give us morejobs and who can improve our economic growth, who can give us more jobs and better jobs in this country. we want to make sure that the people who are coming here only come here when they're benefitting the people who actually live in the uk primarily and not just for the actually live in the uk primarily and notjust for the benefit of those who want to come here. now thatis those who want to come here. now that is immigration controls, which are fair. they are reasonable management of migration, but we want to see that. obviously free movement of people is something that is a principle for the other 27 countries that they have always tied to the single market. what labour has said todayis single market. what labour has said today is look, we are not wedded to free movement of people. we are wedded to good jobs and a good
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economy for the people who are already here in britain. if that means people coming from abroad to help us do that, great. but it has to be on our terms and for our benefit. so it has to be on our terms. so there are going to be controls, labour believes there should be controls on the free movement of people from the eu? look, let me be clear. we are not the government. we are not in negotiations with the other 27 eu countries and it's those negotiations that will determine what the outcome of free movement is. what does labour want? what we want... controls? do you want control? we want to make sure that the controls are exactly as i've said, that they work for the benefit of the people who are already in this country, that they create wealth and jobs for us. that is something that, you know, you look at the way in which the government over the past six years, when theresa may was actually the home secretary. they said we going to get immigration into this country down
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into the tens of thousands. in fact, immigration today is now at the highest levels ever and yet nobody in the media seems to be asking theresa may look, how come you're now saying that you're going to tackle immigration? what are the controls that you're going to put in place that you didn't do for the past six years? 0k. it seems the boot is rather on the wrong foot here. i'm talking to you. if i had theresa may in front of me, i would ask the question. but i've got you. you're saying clearly, i think clearly, that labour believes there should be controls on immigration, butjeremy corbyn made it clear today that there has to be market access in his opinion for the uk to the single market. now that means freedom of movement. so how do you square controls with access to the single market and free movement of people. you say it has to include free movement of people. you said a few minutes ago that the other 27
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countries believe in free movement of people. that's what access, market access would involve, wouldn't it? no, that's why this is a negotiation. so it's always the case in a negotiation that there are two sides. one side wants one thing. the other side may want another. then you have to negotiate a compromise. now one way of doing that might be to say, as the swiss have tried to do with the other countries in the eu, look, people can come to the uk if they have a job offer. that may be one way. that's what we used to do. i'm just trying to give you an example of the sort of compromises. i'm not saying this is labour policy. we're not negotiating this. the government is. but the key thing is here that we wa nt whatever but the key thing is here that we want whatever the negotiations result in, our principle is not about free movement. our principle is about it being in the best interests of the british people, economically and in regard tojobs. all right. it is the government that
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is negotiating, but it would be good for the public to know what her majesty's opposition think about such an important question. majesty's opposition think about such an important questionlj majesty's opposition think about such an important question. i think ijust made that clear. caps on high earners. jeremy corbyn said this morning that he believed in a cap. then he back tracked this afternoon and said well that wouldn't work. who's formulating this policy and are you surprised that the public are you surprised that the public are 100% confused as to where labour stands in dealing with the immense inequality in this country between rich and poor? look, i think this is a really important question and it's about what sort of society that we wa nt to about what sort of society that we want to be. it's interesting that mark carney as governor of the bank of england raised precisely this issue in his own speech just last month. what's labour's prescription — caps or ratios or what? month. what's labour's prescription - caps or ratios or what? there's no magic bullet here. the things that jeremy has been talking about and the labour party has always put
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forward a re the labour party has always put forward are that we want to see within the framework that we have a national minimum wage that has a much higher level than it does now. it is an be scene thing that —— obscene thing that by 12 noon on january 4 this year, one—and—a—half working days into the year, the top executives in this country had earned more than the average worker earns ina earned more than the average worker earns in a year, more than £28,000. we knows there's inequality. what's labour's prescription, caps or quota? it's not capping you or i or the way in which most people would earn in this country. what it's saying is this: there should be irisho that if you're a company where the boss is earning £500,000, four times as much as the prime minister is, then maybe it's the case that within that company nobody should be so little valued, if that company is doing so well, contributing so much to our economy,
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nobody should be earning less than £25,000. that would be a ratio of 20-1. £25,000. that would be a ratio of 20—i. now that seems to me something that most people would say, yeah, that's reasonable. because nobody is worth so much more than anybody else. that they should be getting four times what the prime minister is and yet paying somebody else in that company who's contributing to the wealth and the productivity of that company is only getting £10,000 oi’ that company is only getting £10,000 or £15,000 a year. 0k, that company is only getting £10,000 or £15,000 a year. ok, the new years and we're two weeks into it, almost, was supposed to herald a new dawn for labour in that they were supposed to be clear about their message, get out there, be a little bit more aggressive, bit more on the front foot in getting forward their policies and actually clear up some of the policy confusion that some people believe exists. frankly, it has dogged labour as far as the polls are concerned. do you think jeremy corbyn's performance today has worked in that regard? look, i
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hope that you feel that i have been clear. i don't want to have been aggressive with you, but i hope — you weren't aggressive at all. clear in setting out the policies. it's not about labour being aggressive. it's about saying look, we wa nt aggressive. it's about saying look, we want a fair society. we want a society in which people feel that their contribution is properly valued. are the public now clear about where labour stands on these issues? do you thinkjeremy corbyn has been clear in getting his message out today or is there simply more confusion about what labour, where labour stands on this? well, i hope that as a result of what i've said to you that people are clear, both about where we stand on immigration, making sure that it's for the benefit of the people who are in this country in terms ofjobs and growth. and where we stand in terms of an equal and fair society, where everyone's contribution is valued and nobody‘s contribution is
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disproportionately valued. we'll leave it there. good to see you, as ever. thanks for joining leave it there. good to see you, as ever. thanks forjoining us. and we'll find out how this story — and many others — are covered in tomorrow's front pages: police have named the young girl found badly injured in york yesterday afternoon, who later died in hospital. katie rough was seven years old and discovered in the woodthorpe area of the city. a 15—year—old girl remains in custody. danny savage reports. this is seven—year—old katie rough, found with facial injuries in a playing field in york late yesterday afternoon. her grandparents describe her as their darling princess. friends came to leave flowers close to where she was discovered today.
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she was a very close to my daughter and truly unique, beautiful little girl, respect her family, and truly unique, beautiful little girl, respect herfamily, beautiful family. people living in this small cul—de—sac tried to help katie's mother, who arrived just after the little girl was found. a woman ran up little girl was found. a woman ran up the street. it was obviously the mother of the daughter. she was shouting, "help", call for an ambulance. i got halfway up and i could see a body lying on the field. police were there attending. seven—year—old katie died a short time later in hospital. a 15—year—old girl has been arrested and is being questioned. about half and is being questioned. about half a mile away, police have been at a semidetached house as part of the inquiry. there's been a steep increase in the number of people arriving at accident and emergency departments in england with mental health issues — putting more pressure on a system already under strain.
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the latest official figures analysed for the bbc show 165,371 attendances in 2015/16. last year there were over 165,000 psychiatric attendances at a&e — that's a rise of 47% over the last four years. that includes a rise of 89% in the number of children and young people under 18 attending a&e. emergency doctors described the figures as the tip of an iceberg. alison holt reports. it's another day of unrelenting demand in the emergency department of birmingham's queen elizabeth hospital. is there any movement in terms of beds? patients are lining up on trolleys in the corridor, and the waiting room is packed. next customer, counter one, please. she's taken an overdose of some prescribed medication... the psychiatric team, based in the department, is dealing with a number of people who've tried to take their own lives. she had a follow—on plan, she'd taken an overdose the last time. among them, a woman in her early 20s. doctors have dealt with the physical affects of the overdose,
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but the root cause is her history of mental health problems. what's happened then? what's brought you to a&e today? i took an overdose, i went up to the train track. she is one of a rapidly increasing number of patients arriving at a&e‘s like this with psychiatric difficulties, many are young. the voices are getting more intense, wanting to harm myself. it's not attempts, it's actually trying to do it. i'm notjust doing it as a cry for help. is this the worst that you've ever felt? i've never been this bad before, i'm scared. in a busy a&e, even finding a room for this conversation was a struggle, now this isn't the right place for her, but she needs to be monitored. she actually has suicidal intent. you know, if we were to discharge herfrom here, she'd would likely go out there and try and do something even riskier. was there any particular trigger why you took the tablets?
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at this hospital, they see more than 100 people a week facing a psychiatric crisis and the mental health trust has set up a quiet unit nearby to assess people away from the pressure. its staff then search for the psychiatric beds or community support needed. ok, we need to admit this lady. i'm trying to act upon this as a matter of urgency for this lad because he doesn't sound well at all. nobody in a mental health crisis should be in accident & emergency unless they've got a physical health need. our a&e, what i see, are very, very busy, overstimulated places and somebody with a mental health issue, it's just not conducive at all to them, to be in that environment. that's why in birmingham they've set up this street triage team to intervene before people reach the emergency department. the patient here is hearing voices stating — going to kill someone. with a police officer, paramedic and psychiatric nurse on board, they respond to 999 calls where there are mental health concerns. oonchts i'm a nurse, my name's lisa.
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already this evening the man they're visiting has called for an ambulance several times. his physical health is checked, they listen to and assess him. are you telling me that there was these negative voices in your head at the moment? i think like there's someone controlling me. it's kind of like, i'm some kind of machine. after half an hour it's agreed, rather than going to a&e, he'll keep a community appointment in the morning. has it helped having the visit? i think the first step is me asking for help as well as being assured that i will get the help. over the last four, five weeks he's been going to a&e quite a lot. i think he's had six admissions through a&e. so we've come out tonight to try and prevent that cycle. night and day the street triage team is in demand, but here they believe it's making
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a difference in getting people the right help. we managed to reduce the numbers of attendance to the a&e, but what you get, you get high quality. you get mental health, police forces and paramedics working in collaboration together to look after one single patient. for many, a&e will remain the first place they turn to, the challenge is to help people who are vulnerable before they reach a crisis. time for all the sports news sport now and for a full round up, we can go to the bbc sport centre. it's the first of the league cup semifinals tonight. they've been playing for about 15 minutes at old trafford. it's manchester united against hull city. wayne rooney starts for united, so afterjoining sir bobby charlton on a record 249 goals for the club we will see if he can take the record himself.
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not yet he hasn't. no goals at old trafford. they've made seven changes to the side that played in the fa cup at the weekend. no zlatan ibrahimovic, he misses out through illness no goals yet. united have had more chances. staying with manchester united, they have agreed to sell morgan schneiderlin to everton for £22 million. the french midfielder hasn't been part ofjose mourinho's plans and the 27 year old will link up again with hsi old manager ronald koeman. the two worked together at southamton. hejoined from saints 18 months ago for £24 million. he has only made 8 appearances this season. most of them as a substitute. fifa confirmed today that 48 teams will take part in the 2026 world cup. that's up from the current 32. it's still to be decided which continental federations will fill those extra slots, but we know that the tournament format will begin with 16 groups of three with the top two entering the knockout phase.
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the fifa president gianni infantino spoke exclusively to our sports news correspondent richard conway. it's time to open to the world a competition like the world cup, a celebration of football like the world cup. the competition that makes the world stand still and focus on an event, if we look at how football has developed in the last decades, in the last years, in particular, we can see that the quality of football has become higher and higher, all over the world. is this purely for sporting reasons or is this because, as some critics put it, this is a money and power grab by fifa and using the world cup as that mechanism? we want to do something for football. when you look at the finances, we have to look at the finances because if it's loss—making you cannot invest money in football. so, this was the first element. so the way we presented it was ok, we presented four formats.
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every one has advantages in terms of the financial situation, which means we are in a comfortable situation to be able to take a decision simply based on the sporting merit. after almost 150 years of horse racing, kempton park is set to be closed to make way for around 3,000 new homes, helping raise £100 million towards a 500 million ten—year investment in the sport. should the proposal go ahead at 2021, the king george vi chase would move to sandown. newmarket would benefit from an all—weather track. the proposal is for the long—term good of british racing. that's all the sport for now. still no goals at old trafford between united and hull. i'm back in the next hour or so. in the next few hours— after eight years in the white house — president obama will give a farewell speech.
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we'll bring it to you live on bbc news after 2am. during his time in office, mr obama has contended with a global financial crisis and syria's descent into war. he's also been frustrated by political stalemate at home. with me to discuss obama's eight years as president is peter spiegel, news editor at the financial times, who was working in washington during the first few years of obama's presidency. good to see you, thanks for coming in. good to be here. how would you sum up barack obama's time in the white house? you have to separate it between the domestic and foreign policy. domestic side has been dominated, his legacy, by the economic crisis. he did, unlike europe and to a certain extent the uk, has brought the us out of the economic crisis in pretty rude health. unemployment is down to pre—crisis levels. economic growth returned. the banking system is pretty clea n returned. the banking system is pretty clean right now. on that front, obamacare, depending on what trump does to it, that will go down as part of his domestic legacy. pretty good. i think it gets more complicated in foreign policy. you
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have the positives of the iran deal, the cuba outreach, travelling to cuba, clearly osama bin laden, the attack there. the syria crisis now will be a black mark on his legacy. i think he has to deal with that as well. more mixed overseas, but probably pretty positive domestically, depending on what happens under a trump administration. 0k, given the problems that he had with a republican congress for the majority of his time in the white house, was he able to get through as much as he needed to, as much as he wanted to or was the gridlockjust too much? not as much as he wanted to. particularly on signature issues, gun control in particular. he spoke emotionally about the gunning down of young children, tried multiple times to get gun control through and didn't. climate change, as well. first president who pushed climate change legislation through congress. ended up with a watered down legacy on climate control.
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away from the legislative achievements, the tone in washington, he really was a guy who came to washington to try to change the tone, make it less bipartisan. it has gone the opposite direction. that partisanship, that gridlock in washington that hampered his legacy, he was unable to overcome that. that's something of a stylistic issue with obama. he's not your glad handing likes to go around press the flesh guy, a people person who likes to get out with the people. he's a couege to get out with the people. he's a college professionor. he treats the presidency as a lecture to the american people. if i give a good speech, you'll come along with me. he was not a guy able to reach across the aisle, lyndonjohnson type to make friends across the aisle and help that. lyndon johnson springs to mind when it comes to
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putting your arm a senator saying, look, do you want to be on the right side of history when it comes to policy. i suppose barack obama's misfortune in foreign policy was that he took over after george w bush and at a time when americans didn't want us adventures abroad, but yet, somehow on a particular level, the rest of the world expected america to be involved. still expects america to be involved. still expects. yeah, that's the dichotomy. he was, again, i covered mostly foreign policy, this was clearly a team that didn't ca re this was clearly a team that didn't care a huge amount about foreign policy. they had come to fix the domestic economic situation, to bring obamacare, to deal with those issues. and foreign policy became a bit of of an after thought. there was a question about how seriously he was engaged in russia policy after post ukraine. left to the state department. there was frustration he wasn't paying more attention to these things. i have to come back to the signature issue of
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syria. this president of the united states said i draw a red line in the sand. if chemical weapons are used i will use military action against assad. he didn't. from that moment his foreign policy basically was in a shambles. he lost his credibility on the international stage. we've seen now in a trump admin stlags a quy “ seen now in a trump admin stlags a guy —— administration, a guy, who is more bellicose, more wants to take an aggressive stance on the global stage, particularly in china, against isis and i think that's going to put a lot of allies in bad shape. washington, lincoln, fdr at the top usually. george w bush near the top usually. george w bush near the bottom according to historians, where do you stick him, one word?m the middle. good to see you, peter. for the first time, researchers have filmed chimpanzees making and using tools, to get access to water. the study of a critically endangered population of the primates in the ivory coast, discovered they use tree branches to collect the water, as victoria gill explains.
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after being hidden in the forest of the ivory coast for a month, this remote camera captured something surprising. a mother and baby making and using tools to reach a vital water supply hidden deep within the trees. it's a new insight into the remarkable behaviour of our closest primate cousins. if you think they've got 90—95% saying dna as humans, they are very intelligent animals. we've seen it working at chester zoo, working with these animals, just the kind of things they can do. different cultures of chimpanzees have learned different tool use. so it's certainly not new to find chimpanzees using tools. this footage, captured in nigeria, shows another population of chimps using sticks to fish for termites. but a closer examination of the chimps' drinking tools revealed that they were carefully crafted. the end of each stick chewed into a long, very water absorbent brush. for captive breeding
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programmes like this one, zoos have to understand these natural behaviours to keep their animals as mentally stimulated as possible. we give them small sticks and then we give them an area where they keep honey, ready brek, hat kind of thing. and they have to use their sticks, they have to make them into a certain way so they can actually put the stick in the hole and then they get the food out. so encouraging natural behaviours. it's all gone very quiet here at chester zoo, because it's feeding time for the chimpanzees. and these are actually western chimpanzees, the same subspecies that was looked at in this piece of research. nimble fingered, very clever, toolmaking and tool using, but sadly, critically endangered primates. in the wild, the population of these great apes continues to decline. largely because of poaching and destruction of their forest habitat. findings like this showjust how much more we have to learn about chimpanzee culture. victoria gill, bbc news. the head lines coming up. you'll be
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updated. now the weather. good evening, the winds are picking up in the north and west of the uk, as some rain arrives. it will be light and patchy, as it works its way south across england and wales. lots of showers follow along behind, those turning increasing wintery over the higher ground of scotland. it will be a cold night, single digits for major towns and cities, a few degrees lower than that in rural spots. a cold and windy start to the day. in fact, the wind could be a real problem for some tomorrow, particularly for the northen half of the uk, very blustery conditions, gusting to 60 or 70 mph, northern england northwards. lots of snow showers across the higher ground of scotland. those snow showers getting down to lower levels gradually through the day. some rain showers for northern ireland and northern england. still a bit of snow possible on higher ground and further south, showers are few and far between. ten or 11 degrees in cardiff and london. but cold in the wind, further north. looking ahead towards thursday, it's another cold day

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