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today at five: the prime minister spells out her strategic goals for taking britain out of the european union. in a long—awaited speech, mrs may says britain will leave the single market, seek new trade agreements, and control immigration. while i am sure a positive agreement can be reached, i am equally clear that no deal is better than a bad dealfor britain. parliament will get a vote on the final brexit deal, but labour says the approach involved "enormous dangers". she has said leave the single market, and at the same time says she wants to have access to the single market. i'm not sure how that will go down in europe. in scotland, the first minister accuses theresa may of taking the extreme option. it is clear she wants to take the uk off a ha rd it is clear she wants to take the uk off a hard brexit cliff edge. it is not being driven in the rational
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best interests of the country. we'll have all the details and plenty of reaction from westminster and beyond. the other main stories on bbc news at 5: the inflation rate hits a 2.5—year peak — largely due to higher prices for fuel and food and the fall in the pound. the libyan man who claims that british agents took part in his kidnap in 2004 is given permission to take legal action. and alun wynjones becomes the new wales captain for the 2017 six nations, ending sam warburton‘s six—year tenure. it's five o'clock. our main story is the prime minister's first major speech on the government's strategy for leaving the european union. she's underlined some of the key aims of the forthcoming talks, and promised that members of parliament at westminster
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will be able to vote on the final deal when it emerges. let's run through some of the main points. mrs may said the uk "cannot possibly" remain within the european single market, because staying in would mean in effect but the prime minister promised to push for the "freest possible trade" — what she called a customs agreement — with the remaining 27 countries of the eu, and to sign new trade deals with others around the world. mrs may said there would an end to what she called the "vast" contributions made annually to the european union. and she promised that parliament would have a binding vote on the final brexit deal. the foreign secretary boris johnson said it was a "very, very exciting vision". but labour has warned of "enormous dangers" in the prime minister's plans. and the british chamber of commerce said the government's approach to immigration was outweighing economic concerns, which was alarming for businesses. we'll have political and business reaction —
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but first, this report from our political correspondent iain watson. good morning, what is the plan? you have heard her slogan, brexit means brexit. today we saw some of the substance. theresa may voted to remain in the european union, but she consulted leading leave campaigners, borisjohnson and david davies, over the most important speech she has made since becoming prime minister. she did not give a detailed plan for brexit, but she did set out a direction of travel. not partial membership of the european union, associate membership of the european union, or anything that leaves us half in, half out. i want to be clear. what i am proposing cannot mean membership of the single market. inside the european single market, there are no trade barriers, no tariffs, between the states, but they have to abide by rules and one of those
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means a freedom of people and goods, that means it is difficult to limit immigration. the prime minister wants a new free trade deal with the eu and the control of the uk borders was politically important. the message from the public before and during the referendum campaign was clear. brexit must mean control of the number of people who come to britain from europe. and she said britain would have to come out of some aspects of the eu customs union, or leave it entirely, as full membership would limit the ability to do the sort of trade deals the prime minister favours. but whatever changes the government makes with our relationship to the eu, she wants business to have time to adjust. it is in no—one‘s interests were there to be a cliff edge for business or a threat to stability as we change our existing relationship to a new partnership with the eu. and she had this uncompromising message for the remaining 27 members. while i am sure positive agreement can be reached, i am equally clear no deal
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for britain is better than a bad dealfor britain. the prime minister has given us a bit more clarity today, but in doing so she has given more ammunition to her opponents for an attack. previously denouncing statements of red, and blue brexit seemed a bit of bottling fog, but today the battle lines are more firmly drawn. throughout the speech there was a threat that somehow along the line if all her optimism of a deal with the eu did not work, we would move into a low—tax corporate taxation, bargain basement economy on the offshores of europe. the prime minister said mps would get a vote on the final deal to leave the eu, but the lib dems claim she has no mandate to take britain out of the single market and there should be another vote. all the polling we have shows that 90% of the british people believe
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we should be in the single market. this is a theft of democracy. politicians get to vote on the stitch up, but the people do not. if this process started with democracy last june, it must not end up with a stitch up. we must trust the people with departure and must with the destination also. but ukip is concerned the exit could happen to slowly. she spoke about interim measures, a phase which will only start in april 2019, we want this done quickly. we want a clean break with the european union, a free—trade deal and we can get on as an independent nation. she faced some criticism from political opponents in britain, but the real task will be to persuade 27 eu countries to listen to the uk's demands. shortly, i will speak to two conservative mps.
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joining me from westminster is our chief political correspondent vicki young what for you was the main nature of the response today?” what for you was the main nature of the response today? i think it was her tone. at times, and appearing fight eu partners to be constructive. then, we have worked so constructive. then, we have worked so closely on trade and everything else for more than a0 years. there is no point on hearing that all away. if we are at loggerheads, if we cannot work together, that will be bad for the prosperity of not just our country, but of your country. critics will say we are talking about tariff free trade. you wa nt talking about tariff free trade. you want a close working relationship. that is what we have with the single market, why would you read that and throw that away? just to replace it with something similar? at times, she was prepared to issue that threat. interestingly, ithink she was prepared to issue that threat. interestingly, i think she has learned from david cameron. she
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is prepared to walk away with no deal if it is not the right deal. that was something david cameron was never prepared to do. many people feel that was a big negative for him. that is why he could not get it decent deal in the n. ultimately, she is relying on the goodwill of oui’ she is relying on the goodwill of our eu partners. going into the negotiations, she hopes they will cease things like she does. she cannot control that. depending on where you come from today, she is either being incredibly ambitious are incredibly foolhardy and optimistic. thank you, vicky young. the president of the european commission, jean—claude juncker, has spoken to the prime minister this afternoon — and we're expecting him to give his reaction to theresa may's speech in the european parliament in strasbourg tomorrow morning. let's speak our correspondent in brussels, gavin lee. a little more sense of that reaction
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there. for the fast a la so, little reaction. # first hour. across the eu, a rare unanimity. merkel said there would be no negotiation. perhaps surprisingly news, particularly to some people in the european commission, they said they didn't expect to save it in would be leaving the single market. we start to see the german foreign minister saying, finally after seven months, the fog has quit. at least now the burning exits team can get into position. they can work out how to negotiate. and the french team have said they are ready, given this
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information. and you spoke about donald tusk, the president of the european council, says it is a sad reality. ultimately, he believes it gives enough information now. he is ready for article 50 being triggered. and the former swedish prime minister saying it is a backward step. peter lilley is a conservative mp and former cabinet minister and with me is conservative mp anna soubry, who campaigned for britain to stay in the eu. the prime minister spelling out clearly that the single market is not an option. cannot pick elements within that because we would be under the umbrella, i am paraphrasing. i think the thing i liked is that we have clarity and certainty. those are the things that business want. i think she was
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honest in her appraisal. and i liked the tone. she's trying to bring people together. people are still very divided about this issue. we have two stop using remain and leave. —— the two are completely compatible. the reality is that this is where her speech was, notjust for us to listen to. it is a message to europe that she except they had a red line. you can't not have free movement of people and stay in the single market. she is saying, yes, i get that. she is prepared to forsake the free movement of people. sorry, the free movement of people. sorry, the single market, for the free movement of people. i think that is wrong. it has been a benefit to our economy that we have had so many
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people coming here to work. if you reduce the numbers, who will do the work? at free movement of people has been to the great benefit of the british economy. that is one of the reasons i believe in it. that is another reason i believe in the single market and membership of that because it has worked for business. it is regrettable that we're turning back. but the tone that the prime minister has used is good. bringing us minister has used is good. bringing us together to get a consensus. that is so important. what we actually haveis is so important. what we actually have is single market lite. she is rejecting hard brexit. sector by sector she was to get the right tariff free deals, customs union, piece by piece, that is good. and she wants... she also wants a transitional period. everyone can get used to the new arrangement. that may take some time. on balance, it is better than what was getting
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briefed out. the danger is, it doesn't, she is prioritising immigration. if that is the case, it doesn't matter the tone, does it? that is the political policy? that is true. when i talk about tone, i think this is a prime minister who is genuinely listening and has clearly listen. she has rejected the falling off the cliff. she except that we need error—free arrangements. that we need access to the customs union. she understands why we need these things for business. i will continue to argue, like the british chambers of commerce, for movement of labour and single market. people might understand now why it is so important for business. the vote. the parliamentary vote, a binding vote. it is a long way off. the
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supreme court is going to say next week that article 50, that is the right thing to do. i will vote for article 50, ie accept it. but i want the government to put those 12 objectives into a white paper. they can debate it. and we can debate in parliament on their behalf. a8% voted to remain. lots of other people feel excluded. we need to bring people together for a people feel excluded. we need to bring people togetherfor a proper debate. and this must be at parliament, without fear or favour. that is what we need to do. it strengthens their hands when they go to europe, they say, by the way, it is not just a to europe, they say, by the way, it is notjust a reference result, but actually we have debated this in parliament. parliament has backed as, are not actors in certain cases, but at least that's how it should
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be, a debate. and here is peter lilley. was it inevitable, the decision on the single market, coming out? yes, it was. it is impossible to be members of the european economic area if you do not accept freedom of living. we do not accept freedom of living. we do not. people of this country didn't. also, by leaving the european economic area, we will be able to set service chain deals. we wa nt to able to set service chain deals. we want to be bound by the laws of the european union. if we remained in the single market, that would cover those who don't trade with europe. it is sensible to me. it is obvious we we re it is sensible to me. it is obvious we were going to after her previous statements. i welcome the fact she has been more explicit and more
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detailed than people imagine. she has been very positive with it. i also agree that it is the time for eve ryo ne also agree that it is the time for everyone to come together. as the prime minster are shattered. and most people around the country want to make a success of it now. you say earnestly that they fear that with business edge is, what is happening that political interest in controlling immigration is taking priority over economic well—being. what is your answer? it is right that we control immigration from europe as we do from the rest of the world. i suspect that quite a lot of people still in business who want cheap labour from abroad, that is not the way to run the economy. the way is to train up people in britain with the skills we need. there will bea with the skills we need. there will be a flow back and forth of people with specific expertise. company tra nsfers. with specific expertise. company transfers. we need those across the
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world, not just the transfers. we need those across the world, notjust the eu. by and large we will continue to do in the eu. the fears are unfounded probably. how can you talk about eight truly global britain, we have heard today, when you are talking about controlling immigration, including stu d e nts controlling immigration, including students and skilled workers. how can that fit into a global perspective? controlling isn't the same as preventing. there will clearly steal the flows of people. certainly we will be open to accepting students. there are far more students from outside than inside europe. they pay full fees and make our universities a success. we will allow skilled workers where needed for specific tasks to come into this country. but the idea that we need mass immigration is nonsense. but we look at the city of london, we have discussed this in
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the past, the french government saying, the financial passport for the city of london, it is incompatible with exiting the single market. do you accept that? the city at the lack has moved on from the great emphasis put on passports. the first directive, which included passports, two years that we found that those firms were making use of it to do things they hadn't done previously. they are useful but not essential. the city prospered before passports were invented and will continue to prosper afterwards. because it is the great marketplace of the world, to which people come from europe or elsewhere to do their financial services and to create the great pool of capital on which europe will defend and they won't wa nt to europe will defend and they won't want to cut themselves. what about the timescale, how realistic is it, given the ambition of the prime
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minister, do you think the timescale makes that impossible? the two yea rs ? makes that impossible? the two years? yes. i will hope that we will insist that, because article 50 says all the negotiations must be carried out and completed within a framework of the future relationship between britain and europe, we'll establish very early on that future relationship, what it is, as she urges based on a continuation of free trade, or whether they want to trade with favoured nation tariffs, as europe trade with america and japan. 0nce as europe trade with america and japan. once we know that, all the rest will flow from it, if they want to go straight to favoured nation tariffs, so be it. we ought to know that at an early stage. it has been such a divisive year, leading up and
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after the referendum, is it realistic to expect people to set feelings aside when they feel so deeply and strongly about it, no matter which side of the debate they are on, it may be realistic —— unrealistic at this point to set things aside and to come together? the opinion polls show that 68% of the population wants to get on and implement brexit. you heard from anna, one of the most passionate people about wanting to remain, she says we should unite and make an excess — — says we should unite and make an excess —— a success of it. lots more reaction to come. as we've been hearing, the rate of inflation is at its highest level in 2.5 years. the consumer prices index rose to 1.6% last month. the increase in the cost of living is partly being put down to rising air fares and food prices. our business correspondent vishala sri—pathma is in the city for us, at the stockbroking firm peel hunt.
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talking about those figures. also putting that in the context of the debate for ours. as you said, in higher than expected, i.6% inflation rate. i.a was predicted. what was interesting, some surprise data saying manufacturers were paying lots more for energy. that is being driven by the lower sterling. it jumped 26% today. that is considerable. for one day for currency. the largest since 2008. 0verall, currency. the largest since 2008. overall, a lower pound. that is impacting prices. what is interesting to note is that the governor of the bank of england,
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mark carney, made a speech at the london school of economic, the economy is more reliant on consumers vying and purchasing. with the inflation rate, if it continues, it will make the economy a lots more vulnerable. we will have more business later. to reason sturgeon and the first minister of wales. the reaction after the speech has been somewhat less than welcoming, i think it is fair to say. we'll get a reaction from cardiff and belfast. first, james shaw in glasgow. sale as about the reaction from nicola
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sturgeon which was less than constructive? it is fair to say that this was not the brexit speech that nicola sturgeon, scottish first minister, wanted to hear. she is a fan of the european union. she is in favour of the single market. she didn't wanta favour of the single market. she didn't want a hear theresa may saying, as she did today, they could definitively that the united kingdom will be out of the single market. you felt that scotland's voice was being ignored, she said. theresa may wants to go off a hard brexit cliff edge. the direction she set is not being driven by the rational best interests of the country. it is being driven by the sessions of uk —— obsessions of ukip. it will be damaging to the whole of the uk. it isa damaging to the whole of the uk. it is a direction that she has no mandate for. nicola sturgeon is in a
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cheeky position. she has said that, if scotla nd cheeky position. she has said that, if scotland doesn't get what it wa nts if scotland doesn't get what it wants —— tricky position, a referendum is more likely. there is no obvious majority for that in scotland. what you might expect over the coming weeks and months, nicola sturgeon and her ministers making the case that the uk will be substantially different at the brexit, and that might be a strong reason for more people in scotland to vote for independence if there is a second referendum. now, let's go to cardiff. what is the reaction there from jones and his team. jones slightly more positive. however, he did reiterate what nicola sturgeon
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said, not happy that the uk would be pulling out of the single market, something he has been pushing for for some time and said he would continue that lack he says the single market is an integral part of jobs in wales. he said, he wasn't sure of the half in, half out. he wasn't clear what she was saying about the customs union. but he also said that the devolved nations didn't have a say, the kind of says he wanted. she was disappointed. it is not good enough. it is notjust landed, it is scotland, wales and northern ireland. if we have a deal, it has two last. why would whitehall ta ke it has two last. why would whitehall take decisions on agriculture in wales and scotland ? a political stalemate in stormont.
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what have you picked up in terms of reaction? the big issue in northern ireland is the lands border. she said she was committed to maintaining the comment travel area between britain and northern ireland. she also said it would protect the integrity of the immigration policy. the reaction has... the democratic unionist party, who wanted to leave, they said it would make the uk strong, leaving the single market. we are heading for new elections on the 2nd of march at stormont. brexit will be a big issue. another key strand in the speech today was the announcement that
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theresa may wants to take britain out of the jurisdiction of the european court ofjustice. the prime minister said laws will be upheld byjudges in this country and not in europe. we can speak to the conservative mp and former attorney—general dominic grieve about the policy on the european court ofjustice. your overall sense, if i may, of the speech and the time pulis struck? the prime minister's town was excellent. i have no fault with it. she said ambitious targets. if she can deliver on them, it is likely to be as good a brexit as somebody like myself could possibly hope to expect. protecting britain's vital interests, in terms of being able to access the single market, and also operates within a customs union with our partners. 0bviously, operates within a customs union with our partners. obviously, we will have to wait and see how the negotiations go in terms of a state
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is feasible. as the theme of the european court of justice. is feasible. as the theme of the european court ofjustice. you have an expert perspective, what are the implications? i think there is a misunderstanding about the european court ofjustice. the united kingdom is signed up to over 700 treaties. which have some sort of mechanism which determines how the treaty is interpreted. 0ur eu treaty is no different, except with this one very important difference — eu law as applied by the court in luxembourg, the eu court, applies directly into our law and doesn't have to be intimated by parliament first in order to change the way our country works. if we are leaving the eu, that will undoubtedly sees. to that extent, thejurisdiction that will undoubtedly sees. to that extent, the jurisdiction of the european court of justice extent, the jurisdiction of the european court ofjustice with golfers of that was always clear in
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the referendum result. —— jurisdiction would go. if we have to work in areas like home affairs, security with the eu afterwards, any other area, then decisions made by the european court ofjustice in luxembourg are going to continue to be important. ultimately, if we wish to participate, we would have to sign up to the regulatory interpretation that the european court ofjustice faces on it. just as we do for any other international arbitration tribunal in a treaty to which we are signed up. the alternative is to leave the treaty. i'm not sure where that leaves us in terms of the prime minister's aspirations. it is possible, as part of the negotiations, that we might ask to set up a separate tribunal to which we have a british judge involved. to decide or arbitrate on
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those areas in which we wish to participate, and areas, if we are staying in the european economic area. but the prime minister has said that is not an option. i am not sure where we will end up. whether we will end up with a separate tribunal set up which does not have direct effects to our law, which can arbitrate areas in which we want to cooperate, like a customs union or a access to the single market, whether in fact we would use the european court ofjustice, in which case, the european court of justice court ofjustice, in which case, the european court ofjustice is going to continue to be of relevance to what goes on in this country. if you area what goes on in this country. if you are a manufacturer in the united states, and the european court of justice makes a decision on the eu regulations that govern your area of manufacturing, and you want to export into the eu, you have to observe it. thank you forjoining us today.
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more reaction on the prime minister? speech coming up in a moment. in the meantime the weather. cloudy and dryfor in the meantime the weather. cloudy and dry for much of the uk. but some exceptions to that general rule. the north west of england has been wet today and that continues into the evening. clearer skies across parts of east anglia and south east england. and quite a sharp frost in the countryside setting in overnight. elsewhere with the cloud cover the temperatures holding up. so the differences remain on wednesday, cloudy for much of the uk with some brighter breaks around especially in parts of southern
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england. breezy in the northern and western isles. and very mild in the north of scotland. cold in south—east england despite the sunshine. high individual into the weekend so it is looking settled on still low pressure comes back next week. —— until. this is bbc news at five — the headlines. the prime minister has made her first major speech outlining her strategy for leaving the eu, and announced that she wants britain to leave the single market after brexit. not partial, associate membership or anything that leads us— or half out. in response to theresa may's announcement, scotland's first minister nicola sturgeon has accused theresa may had taken the extreme option.
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the direction she said today has not been driven by the best interests of the country. inflation hit its highest rate since july 201a last month as food prices and air fares rose. the libyan man who claims that british agents took part in his kidnap in 200a — is given permission to take legal action. let's catch up with the sport now. as we reported last week, alun wynjones will take over the wales captaincy from sam warburton. the interim head coach rob howley named his 36 man squad for next month's six nations championship today and confirmed his skipper. jones has led the team five times before and also captained the lions in the final test against australia in 2013. the squad also includes seven uncapped players. warburton is still in the squad but the decision to take the captaincy off him was made
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so that he can concentrate on his own game. he has skippered his country a record a9 times but has had some injury problems and has strugled for form. no one is guaranteed their position. and the one thing with alun wyn jones, he is the first name on the tea m jones, he is the first name on the team sheet and with sam, the talent we have in the back row, wejust feel at this moment as a coaching tea m feel at this moment as a coaching team it is best for sam to concentrate on being the best that he can be to get his mojo back. bristol say there has been no wrongdoing despite sale sharks lodging a protest with the rfu that one of their own players passed on information to bristol ahead of their match on new year's day. tom arscott, seen here kicking the ball, has been suspended by sale who claim he had a conversation with his brother luke, a bristol player, on the eve of the match.
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bristol say nothing ‘of any sporting value' was discussed or passed on to their coaches but sale want the rfu to investigate. we had a complaint from seniors players of the club that one player passed on information before the game. and by doing that we had to inform the governing body of our decision. it is unprecedented in most sports, there is a trust element which has been put into question by the players and they have come to me with that. there are five british players through to the second round of the australian open for the first time in thirty years. johanna konta, heather watson and kyle edmund all came through overnight, konta, who is ranked ninth in the world, beat former wimbledon semi—finalist kirsten flipkens in straight sets. i'm very happy to have come through, i was prepared to stay out as long asi i was prepared to stay out as long as i needed to. again it was a tough
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first set and there was not much in it. i was happy that i was able to put my foot on the pedal a little bit. and just managed the difficulties presented by the match. judd trump has been knocked out of the first round of the masters snooker tournament at the alexandra palace by marco fu. the world number three was only one frame away from victory, but fu stormed back and clinched the deciding frame with a century break. he'll play mark allen next. that's all sport for now. you can keep up to date with all those stories on the bbc sport website and i'll have more in sportsday at half past six. so the prime minister has confirmed that britain will leave the single market, and wants a different relationship with what's known as the european customs union. but what exactly does that mean?
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0ur economics correspondent, andy verity, explains why the customs union is important. we sell more goods and services to the other 27 members of the european union than to anywhere else. it is our biggest trading partner, not least because it is our closest trading partner with nearly half of our exports going to eu member countries. if you are a british exporter, it is obvious what the single market means, whatever you make in the uk, you can sell anywhere in the eu, no member country can block you. that's free movement of goods. you can also invest capital anywhere and any member country can invest in your country, member states promise not to block that either. and in theory at least you have free movement of services and more controversially, free movement of people. the fear is, if we leave the single market, our exporters won't be able to sell as much to our main trading partner so the economy will grow more slowly.
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now, there will be a similar effect if we left the customs union. well before the eu, countries used to try to stop cheap imports under cutting their own industries especially with high value goods like cars. they would slap a tariff on, a form of tax, to make the goods more expensive. under the customs union, members of the eu agree to scrap tariffs on each others goods, if we exit the customs union, the tariffs might come back, making our car exports less competitive. that's one reason the pound dropped shortly after the referendum. you can see it there because of fears we would export less. the pound lost a fifth of its value and that started to drive up prices. the entrepreneur richard tice is co—chair of leave means leave and is here with me now. a broad sense of the message today
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from the prime minister, for you what was notable. we were delighted with what she said. she used are strapline that no deal is better than a bad deal. she clarified what we asked for, that we will be leaving the single market. she listened to people about freedom of movement and she realised that we can leave the single market and still have access as most countries in the world had. she also talks about leaving the customs union but with some kind of agreement. sensibly she has left the door open forfriendly discussion sensibly she has left the door open for friendly discussion but she said it with a clear and firm, friendly tone. so we are delighted with everything she said so far. one commentator said we are forgetting that all of these are dependent on goodwill largest cooperation from the other side. what gives you
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confidence that that will be there and we will get the deal based on these principles. economic logic, frankly. the eu 27 export almost 100 billion more to the uk every year than we export to them. that will be driven by economic logic, by companies, german car manufacturers etc seeing that it is in their interests for a deal to be done. and the prime minister has laid it out clearly, no deal is better than a bad deal. of course we want to be friendly, of course we are neighbours and will continue to cooperate on issues like security and other issues that she mentioned. it is incredibly positive and i think the prime minister and her advisers have done a good job so far. today have been saying, what i'm scared all is we'll get a slow motion brexit, we want this done quickly and at clean break from the
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eu. a slow motion brexit, is that how you are reading it? this is the important point, she talked about possibly the need for some kind of transition in certain sectors. what we need to be clear about is that we will leave the eu, a maximum of two yea rs will leave the eu, a maximum of two years after serving article 50. if there is a need for some technical transitional arrangements, that is after we have left. i have to say i think that two years should be plenty of time to get all that in place. where there is goodwill that should be doable. in business two yea rs should be doable. in business two years is more than enough time to get such agreements organised. some people say it is just pie in the sky and itjust people say it is just pie in the sky and it just will people say it is just pie in the sky and itjust will not happen in two yea rs and itjust will not happen in two years because and itjust will not happen in two yea rs because even and itjust will not happen in two years because even if all the british ducks are all in line, on the european side, 27 member states, even with goodwill it is very difficult to try to get that done.
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you have got to set out with a positive intent and that is what she has done. if it is not possible then fine, we go to wto and she referred to that today and said no deal is better than a bad deal and if need better than a bad deal and if need be we will go to some kind of wto arrangement. we have got to look at other positives, many other countries want to start negotiating with us now to get agreements lined up with us now to get agreements lined up so we with us now to get agreements lined up so we can with us now to get agreements lined up so we can find them the day after we have left. the us, our biggest single export partner, want a deal donein single export partner, want a deal done in the first 90 days of the tenure of the new president. it is important that the department of william fox, the foreign office, they get to grips with the huge opportunity and that will help our negotiating leverage with the uk —— with the eu. how do you square the notion of an outward looking, global uk with the wish to have far more rigorous controls on immigration, which people say signal something
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other than a global perspective. all you're doing is going back to what happened before 200a. we have always welcomed immigration of people with the skills that the country has needed, since the second world war. but we have been in control of it. since 200a we lost control of it. of course we are outward facing, we a lwa ys course we are outward facing, we always have been. thank you very much. and what about the voters — six months after the eu referendum — what do people make of mrs may's speech today? our correspondent, phil mackie, has been to birmingham, where people voted by a narrow margin to leave the european union. when the country voted to leave the eu last year, it was a close vote nationally, 52% in favour of brexit, a8% in favour of remain. in birmingham, it was even closer. half a million people went to the polls in this city and the winning margin for leave was onlyjust under a,000 votes.
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so now people have an inkling of what brexit means, what do they think? andy and debbie are typical. one voted leave, the other remain. if it's too high a price to remain in the single market in terms of the price we have to pay for immigration, it's a fair trade—off in my opinion. i'm afraid to say that although i voted to stay in, it probably makes sense because going forward, if we're out, we're out. making the coffees are maria from slovakia and veronica from hungary. both might be allowed to stay, but in the future for people wanting to work here, life could be more difficult. i would like to choose what country i want to live in or work in. so if i have to leave just because of brexit, i wouldn't like it. the salary is much better than hungary, even for the same job. and for the english manager of this independent coffee shop,
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tougher border controls would mean a real headache when recruiting staff. one out of ten cvs that come over the counter on a weekly basis are european, so if that was restricted, it would be difficult to recruit people, especially full—time members of staff that are hard to come by. for many in the second city, the prospect of brexit is still filled with optimism, but in a city that's so evenly split, others are still left with a bitter taste. phil mackie, bbc news, birmingham. a libyan man has won the right to sue the british government, including the former labour foreign jack straw, over claims of kidnap and torture. abdul hakim belhaj, a former opponent of colonel gaddafi, was arrested in bangkok, taken to libya and questioned by agents from m16 and the cia. mr straw has denied any involvement. our home affairs correspondent, tom symonds, reports.
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libya, 2011. colonel gaddafi has been toppled, and it's chaos. among the files strewn across the offices of his security service, a document comes to light suggesting that britain played a part in the abduction and torture of a libyan dissident. he's abdul—hakim belhaj, once regarded as a terror suspect. now he's been told by britain's highest court that he can sue m16 and the government, which tried to halt the case. the supreme court unanimously dismisses the government's appeals. normally, the english courts can't consider cases involving what foreign governments have done abroad. but in this judgment, the supreme court has concluded that that doesn't prevent the courts here from considering british involvement in what happened. after all, it says, these are serious allegations of torture, regarded as abhorrent in english law. in this jail, mr belhaj
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says he was tortured after he and his pregnant wife were intercepted by us agents and flown to libya. in the key document, an m16 officer appears to write to a gaddafi official welcoming the safe arrival of mr belhaj using his alternative name, but also describing him as "a' the letter says intelligence that led to his capture was british. a court will now be asked to consider whether the uk was involved, but mr belhaj and his supporters say he and his wife believe it doesn't need to go that far. for them, it's really just about justice. all they've really wanted is an apology, an acknowledgement from britain that what happened to mr belhaj and ms bouchar, a pregnant woman at the time of her rendition, was wrong. that's all they want. labour's jack straw was foreign secretary at the time and is now lead defendant in the case. he says he acted within the law and was never complicit
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with what might have gone on abroad. tom symonds, bbc news, at the supreme court. it's a month since syrian government forces re—took rebel areas of the country's second city, aleppo. now new peace talks are due to begin next week between the syria government, and some of the rebel groups, who've been fighting against president assad's regime for the last six years. our middle east editor jeremy bowen sent us this assessment from aleppo. the battle for aleppo was the most decisive of the war so far. it is syria's biggest city, it's the key to the north of the country, and both sides were prepared to destroy it. possess it. the cost has been very high, in blood, and in the ruin of a city that can trace its history back 50 centuries. now, this is the great umayyad mosque in aleppo,
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it dates back to the 700s and as you can see, it's been used as a military position, there's heavy damage here. a un world heritage site, now covered in sand bags, bullet holes. you can see from the number of bullet holes how much fighting went on here. and over in that corner stood the famous minaret that looked out over this mosque, and it was built in 1090. and destroyed in april of 2013. at the time there were a lot of reports saying it was done by regime shelling. the people here who are representatives of the syrian government who are with us, say that it was done by the rebels, who blew it up deliberately. this is one of the sides of the mosque, you can see it was used as an entrance and exit. a lot of damage around here, a lot of bullet holes, lots of evidence of shellfire. and the fact that it was used as a military
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position is very clear. you can see from this line of oil drums, they were used to shield the people inside here. and if you look at the ceiling, it is absolutely pitted with shrapnel marks. that means that there were big explosions here, right inside the mosque. and you can see the damage right up there now. the damage done to these really important religious, cultural, historical sites is tragic. way more tragic, though, is the fact that so many of the people who used to pray in this mosque, who would shop in these streets, they are now dead. in terms of the progress of the war, capturing aleppo was a vital moment for the regime and its allies, the russians, the iranians. lebanese, hezbollah. because for the first time i think president assad can now sense victory, the war is in a new phase, it is not over, but from the point of view of the regime in damascus,
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this is the strongest they have been since it started. jeremy bowen, bbc news, aleppo. in three days' time — donald trump takes over the white house, becoming the a5th president of the united states. it marks the end of barack obama's eight years in the oval office. this week our correspondentjon kay is travelling along highway a5 — gauging the country's mood. today, he's in chicago, illinois, where barack obama began his political career, and where people have been reflecting on the legacy he leaves behind. right through the middle of donald trump's america. to get a sense of the country he is taking over. but our next stop is not trump territory. chicago.
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i could do with some breakfast. this is barack obama's favourite diner. he lived round the corner before he was president and he still comes back. what does he eat. he likes the brea kfast. he is humble, he is strong. taihitia is an obama fan. as a nurse, she likes the changes he made to health care, giving poorer people better access. she worries donald trump will overturn the reforms, hitting the most vulnerable. they will not have access to
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doctors, they will have to come through emergency services. many of them will be very sick, can't get medicine. some of them will die. her son daniel thought having a black president would mean a more inclusive america. but he fears donald trump's brand of populism is now encouraging division. i do feel my safety might be, you know, in danger. really? you feel more vulnerable now? i do, i do. in certain situations i do. post—trump? post—trump, yes. because it is something that you can see from the energy that trump built and the way that people express themselves who support trump. a lot of them have certain beliefs in things like that that do not align with my existence. some here do question the obama legacy and think change is overdue. aspiring businesswoman erika hopes donald trump will help people like her. i believe that he's going to open up doors for small business owners, hopefully, that's trying
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to create big businesses. like you? yes. maybe you will be as rich as donald trump in a few years? we head to the suburbs. elgin, where nearly half the population is hispanic. donald trump's plans to build a giant wall along the mexican border mean many here cannot support him. never. lam i am concerned what he thinks about us, especially mexicans. but some views here may surprise you. rosa hopes a wall would help stop illegal immigrants. we have our own problems here in america, so... you know, to add more of them coming over here, i think... i don't think it's a good thing. and in the choir, margarita hopes donald trump will safeguard her
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pro—life catholic values. i'm so excited and i'm so happy for him. and we should not be afraid of anything, not even a wall or anything. it seems this hispanic community is split, just as america is split. it isa it is a scary,, we do not know what is going to happen. a lot of people are scared what is going to happen. we do not want division. but look where we are. time to get back on route a5. jon kay, bbc news, chicago. and tomorrow, jon kay continues his journey down route a5 — he'll be in tennessee. well donald trump has been on
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twitter again from his latest message was meant to be in praise of his daughter of ankit sharma. but this is the twitter feed of the daughter of the president—elect and because of the simple typing error he actually directed people to a different place. a rather different of anchor who lives in brighton. the mistake quickly went viral. she found it amusing and encouraged the future president to be a little more careful in future with his typing. now a look at the weather — here's nick miller. we have double figure temperatures across parts of scotland, wet in
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parts of england and cold and sunny in the far south east. that is a summary of the weather today. tonight the far south—east has a ha rd tonight the far south—east has a hard frost setting in in the countryside. some patchy outbreaks of rain and drizzle around in parts of rain and drizzle around in parts of england and wales. quite a range of england and wales. quite a range of temperatures. a mild start to wednesday whether temperatures are high. cloud across many parts with some drizzly rain around. the far south of england enjoying some brighter spells. although temperatures still low. temperatures clustered together for thursday and friday and into the weekend. a lot of settled weather but again plenty
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of settled weather but again plenty of cloud. britain will leave the eu single market — theresa may sets out her core demands for brexit negotiations. she wants british laws to be judged in british courts, and new ways of dealing with immigration. brexit must mean control over the number of people who come to britain from europe, and that is what we will deliver. the prime minister also had a message for other eu leaders — don't try to punish us for brexit. while i am sure a positive agreement can be reached, i am equally clear that no deal for britain is better than a bad dealfor britain. parliament will have a vote on the final deal, but already the criticism has started. if all her optimism of a deal with the european union didn't work, we would move into a low tax, corporate taxation, bargain basement economy.
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