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an 40, 50, 60 years, and if it is an inaugural that 40,50, 60 years, and if it is an inaugural that attempts to bring together those divides, then he will be seen as someone together those divides, then he will be seen as someone who is trying to change the dynamic of what his campaign and so far his transition has been about, which is that it still has been divisive. after he won the presidency he gave some conciliatory remarks. he tried to make peace with hillary. and then in the matter of a few days he was back on twitter sending incendiary tweets, attacking his opponents, attacking hollywood and meryl streep, and on and on. so although he was able to behave and he'll and be presidential, it didn't take long for the old donald trump, the performer, the adversarial politician, to come to the forefront. people who know him say they would be very surprised if the office of the presidency taints him how. office of the presidency taints him now. if we go to the first paper
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this evening, the daily mirror, the 4ist this evening, the daily mirror, the 41st president of the united states, and a profile shot of donald trump. "now the world holds its breath". and there are pictures of the previous 44 presidents of the united states around it. i suppose, previous 44 presidents of the united states around it. isuppose, hugh, the point danny is making is that eve ryo ne the point danny is making is that everyone expected donald trump as a former governor of new york once said, to campaign in poetry and govan in prose. he hasn't shifted at all. -- govan in prose. he hasn't shifted at all. —— govern. govan in prose. he hasn't shifted at all. -- govern. no, and you would expect it to grow into the office he was about to occupy but there's been no sign of that at all. there are two possibilities. 0ne no sign of that at all. there are two possibilities. one is that he felt he needed to retain that character, he needed to retain the persona that got him this far, particularly at the inauguration, because i could see it would be pretty depressing for some of his
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supporters if up until the point that he won, he was one person, and then suddenly he became a completely different person! he spent the whole campaign railing against the elite, the politics as usual, so if you then sounded like a normal politician suddenly having won, i can see a lot of people who support it would start to lose faith, so that's one theory, that this is deliberate and that he deliberately has kept in character, if you like. the other is that he just can't help himself, you can't do it. he's com pletely himself, you can't do it. he's completely incapable. and in that case, wow, what an inauguration speech were going to have tomorrow! though supposedly be people writing it down but he might talk about his hotels, you might make it up, he might pick a fight with someone in the audience! who knows what's going to happen? but barack obama has said, and he said this in his press conference yesterday, the weight of the presidency, the enormity of the job sobers you up. he seemed to give
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the impression that once that mantle has been placed on donald trump's shoulders, that he will somehow shift. when we saw donald trump first next president obama in the 0val first next president obama in the oval office, he seemed petrified and small and freaked out at the reality. i think in many ways, he's this consummate salesman, he was selling this narrative of himself throughout the campaign, and when he finally obtained the presidency, he could barely believe it. but i also think, like you said, this is a man who ran with throwing a bomb at the political establishment and he's going to continue along those lines, and so the presidency might tame him to some extent but he's donald trump. he's not someone who changes to go like the wind. he follows his own script and he wants to raise a middle finger at the establishment, andl middle finger at the establishment, and i don't think that's going to stopjust because he becomes
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president. well, you work for fake news! the new york times! be interesting —— the interesting thing is that they said they will board with the pictures of presidents. don't ask me to pick out the one they were talking about, andrew jackson... they were talking about, andrew jackson. .. or they were talking about, andrew jackson... or historical they were talking about, andrew jackson. .. or historical knowledge is better than mine! andrew jackson was the donald trump of his day. he was the donald trump of his day. he was the donald trump of his day. he was the plain speaking president for the ordinary guy, he was running against the elites and his inauguration day was pretty wild. people brought their horses and cattle into the white house pretty much! a day that washington had never seen! so there has been a time in the past where theyjust got fed
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up in the past where theyjust got fed up with what is seen as routine politics and then brought someone in to disrupt it all. and then it's gone back to being what we would see as being a sane country again. i'm clutching at straws here! but this has happened before! maybe the equilibria will come back after four yea rs, equilibria will come back after four years, maybe not! we might not have to wait! but isn't that what has made america great? the fact that it has been willing to throw everything up. a sense of innovation, moving forward constantly like a shark, like a laser beam. and not becoming what donald rumsfeld famously described europe as — old europe, stained, frosty, no sense of innovation. isn't that what has made america what it is? the fact that it can throw up something like trump? well, indeed... that is a no! the
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fa ct well, indeed... that is a no! the fact that he is in the tradition of the great salesman and a reality tv star and he was able to come —— become the president of the united states, in some ways it's a decidedly american morality tale, but it's not exactly an american dream story. 0bama but it's not exactly an american dream story. obama had an american dream story. obama had an american dream narrative. he didn't know his father till he was older, he was raised by his mother, the first african—american president. i'm not sure donald trump encompasses that same narrative. he was born with a silver spoon in his mouth, he had investments from his father, his own company. paradoxically, he's managed to refashion himself as an everyman, asa to refashion himself as an everyman, as a working—class hero, and that's the great irony of this, but it doesn't have the same mood music as the entrance of obama on the political stage. yes. let's go back to the make america great again, and
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i think onstage that is the us army band, the pipers, and they are doing sta rs band, the pipers, and they are doing stars and stripes forever. after them, it is a guy called harvey keith. i've heard of him! a country quy: keith. i've heard of him! a country guy, i keith. i've heard of him! a country guy, i think! keith. i've heard of him! a country guy, ithink! let's keith. i've heard of him! a country guy, i think! let's go back to the papers. the times. this is basically donald's got talent, isn't it? do you think you collected these people on the road to washington? the times, he is the legitimate president of the united states, and whatever you think about him, given whatever you think about him, given what we see over the last few days ina what we see over the last few days in a place like gambia, is that america can pass the torch in a
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peaceful way to a new administration. and that is something to be applauded. indeed. past presidents will be there, even those who have been sharply critical of him. the only one who won't be is george bush senior, who is unwell. but there will be bill clinton, etc, and it does speak to the kind of democracy that america is. but, you know, i think this will be an important moment for the rest of america, for liberal america, because they're really going to have to work out what they are for, what they believe. in a way, trump will give them the sharpest definition they can possibly have this is what the times is focusing on. both in the states here. there are what they would see as liberal activists who are already trying to mobilise and say it might be four long years but
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we've got to start now and show that we've got to start now and show that we don't think the way trump does things is the way and we don't want this to be the dominant view. the number of times he talks about the events taking place in washington at the same time as the inauguration, people who are going to speak at them, including our own columnist, just give him a shout out! for which we are grateful. but i think both here and in america, we're really going to have to work out what we are forand if going to have to work out what we are for and if this is the prevailing wind, what the attack is. what is your view on how democrats will handle mr trump? we know what republicans did with barack obama — they froch every turn. is that what they froch every turn. is that what the democrats will do? —— they blocked him. initially i think they will give him the benefit of the
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doubt. the electoral politics are such that the republicans have both houses and as such they can put through their own policies. they will try to conserve 0bama's legacy as much as possible. but what we're hearing is that they will try, to give him the benefit of the doubt, then see what happens, but it's up in the airat then see what happens, but it's up in the air at the moment. let's go back to washington. the make america great again celebration. and this is toby keith, and, as i say, i've heard of him. let's listen in. # i'm an american soldier # i'm an american soldier # i'm an american # i'm an american # i've got my brothers and my sisters # i stand proud... plenty of that! the telegraph. dan,
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how does this square with him wanting to spend 1 trillion on investment projects? is very bizarre, frankly, because he want to spend —— he wanted to spend! billion on infrastructure projects to help eve ryman, billion on infrastructure projects to help everyman, but he's also trying to preach smaller government, and if you have a smaller government, who is going to deliver these infrastructure projects? so it's a typical trump comment to say one thing and then the opposite. it's a typical trump comment to say one thing and then the oppositem pa rt one thing and then the oppositem part of his problem, hugh, that he's been so specific in what he's going to do? i'm going to bring backjobs, i'm going to bring back coal mining, i'm going to bring back coal mining, i'm going to bring back factories? whereas past presidents, yes, of course on the campaign trail they talk specifics a bit but they don't
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zero in on the gripes, but he has zeroed in on gripes people have and he's got to live with that. that will be his problem come saturday morning. it's all very well to have a reality show president who promises things... stop belittling the man! i'm not american, i don't have to respect the office! but his promise, as you say, of specific things, it's interesting. as fervent as people are now in their support of him, that can flip. and one of the ways it can do that is the people he has promised things too, when they say, well, we not getting those things. the presidency had is a bit ofa those things. the presidency had is a bit of a bully pulpit. it has some powers but in many ways the office of prime minister here is a more powerfuljob. i'll interject. i
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think those of us in the liberal chamber have been taking him to lightly and when he says he will build a wall, maybe you will, but most of the electorate... it incorporates that as saying...“ you set about coal miner, i'm going to give you yourjob back, you've got to do it, and yet half those jobs have gone because of automation, because the chinese are dumping steel, and because it's done cheaper around the rest of the world. how do you do that? the angry white man will pay dividends to that to some extent and buy him some time, and it doesn't mean he won't have to find them jobs, you will. but the fact that the person who spoke that language is now in the white house and the music has changed... that's really interesting. we have here, we've no idea what this guy is going to do. the fact he says one thing, does another, he flips, he flops. he's
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such a loose cannon. dan, how much time has he got? is it essentially two years time has he got? is it essentially two yea rs before time has he got? is it essentially two years before the midterms?” think it's going to have to be before two years he's going to have to produce some results. they are going to want to see jobs and benefits. at the same time, the fact he can channel the anger and be this everyman, that will ingratiate him to his base. but he's going to have to his base. but he's going to have to produce some results very quickly, i would say. the really distressing thing about that quote, we've no idea what this man is going to do, it came from joe bidden, in an interview with the new york times. —— joe biden. an interview with the new york times. ——joe biden. you can't help wondering what might have happened ifjoe biden had been the candidate and not hillary clinton. yes, much closer to the working class. finally, farewell, mr president. the
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only paper not to have trump on the front. and i suppose the metro is reflecting on what has gone to put into context what's to come. and it's also the fact that for many people, president obama was one of the most transformational president since lincoln, arguably, when you think of what you don't —— what he did on iran, human rights, lesbian and gay rights, mobilising the economy after 2008, and what a transformational figure he was. i think the metro is giving some credence to his historical legacy. some argue he didn't do enough with the economy that allowed trump to get in. he had his own personal flaws that maybe didn't lend him to the american system. if you think of
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someone like bill clinton, who was able to deal with, haggle with, negotiate with people who were his political opponents, i never got the impression 0bama political opponents, i never got the impression obama could do that. but if you think about the opposition there was to him throughout, and you think of the challenges and the state of the economy when he took over, i think he's been an exceptional president. i'm not even american and i'm proud of him! but i don't think we will see his like again in our lifetime. thank you to both of you. this particular story in front of the papers. and if mr trump does speak at that make america great again celebration in washington, we will bring it to here on bbc news. but now it's time for the weather. good evening. the dry, the settled weather will stay with us into the weekend — the high pressure will ensure that. but varieties of weather despite the high pressure, with the sunshine in the south, to the south of all the cloud it was a sparkling day after a very cold start. but of course after a mild start, where we're sitting under that weather front, it was a grey
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and murky day, some patchy rain and drizzle around. slightly less grey further north under the cloud in cumbria — you can see just a few rays of sunshine coming through. where we keep the cloud through the night is where we'll see temperatures holding above freezing but you can see where the holes are. the north and the south primarily. it's the south where we've got the colder air at the moment so it's here we expect the harshest frost, but we'll still get down below freezing in northern scotland. where we see cloud breaks in the vale of york, it could be a tad chilly with some fog and we're seeing fog develop around parts of the midlands, east anglia and wales as well. but it's in the south, where the air is much colder, where we can expect temperatures again to get to six below freezing. much warmer in melbourne for the australian open taking place. during the day there, our night—time, so three in the morning. but hopefully that rain should have cleared away by the time andy murray comes onto court. that's the way we're hoping it will be. but it's blustery, though, very unsettled. in stark contrast, we're just cold and very settled. freezing fog could be
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an issue and in a few places quite patchy by nature. hopefully we'll see a few more breaks developing in the cloud across northern ireland through the coming day and again in the north of scotland, where we had temperatures of 10 degrees during the day on thursday. but despite that chilly start, the sunshine sparkles again, it lifts the fog eventually and actually erodes the cloud further northwards, so more sunshine through friday for the midlands and for wales. hopefully brighter for northern ireland. similarly so with plenty of sunshine across northern scotland. still a bit drab in the northern isles with that weather front close by. and of course where we have our weather front across central areas, again, it'll be a murky and dank sort of day. that weather front doesn't go away over the weekend, so we can't forget it because it could give us some nuisance drizzle or even sleet and snowjust because it's cold enough, because over the weekend, more widespread night—time frost, a bit more sunshine by day, but if anything, temperatures will be a bit lower, as you can see, despite the sunshine, because we're pulling in that cold air, and very little changes into the early part of next week. this is bbc news.
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i'm clive myrie. the headlines at 11: donald trump arrives in washington on the eve of his inauguration to become america's 45th president. one of his first official duties, to remember the country's fallen, as his deputy promised early action on pledges made. from ira commander, to key figure in northern ireland's government, martin mcguinness retires from frontline politics. dozens are missing, feared dead, after an avalanche engulfed a hotel for skiers in central italy. at the world economic forum in switzerland, theresa may tells business leaders that britain wants to forge a new role in the world after brexit.
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