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be one of the this group is going to be one of the most important groups in this country towards making us safe, towards making us winners again, towards making us winners again, towards ending all of the problems. we have so many problems that are interrelated that we don't even think of, but interrelated, to the kind of havoc and fear that this sick group of people have caused. i can only say i am with you 1000%, and the reason you are my first up is that you know i have a running water with the media. they are among the most dishonest human beings on earth. applause they are. says sort of made it sound like i had a feud with the intelligence community. i want to let you know
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that it's exactly the opposite. and they understand that too. i was explaining about the numbers. we did a speech yesterday, everybody liked the speech. applause but we had a massive field of people, you saw that. i turned on one of the networks and they showed an empty field. i said, wait a minute, i made a speech. the field was, it looks like a million and a million people. they showed a field where there was practically nobody standing there. and they said donald trump did not draw well. i said, it was almost raining, the rain should have scared them away but god looked down and he said, we won't let it rain on your speech. the first line i got hit by a couple of drops, and isaid, i got hit by a couple of drops, and i said, this is too bad. but the
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truth is that it's dubbed immediately. it was amazing and became really sunny, it poured after i left. we have something that is amazing. honestly it looked like a million people, whatever it was, it we nt million people, whatever it was, it went all the way back to the washington monument. and i turned on by mistake and i get this network and it showed an empty field. and it said that we drew 250,000 people. now, that is not bad but it is a lie. we had 250,000 people in the little ball that reconstructed. the re st of little ball that reconstructed. the rest of the 20 block area back to the washington monument was packed. so we caught them. and we caught them ata so we caught them. and we caught them at a beauty and i think they will pay a price. another one yesterday was interesting. in the
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0val yesterday was interesting. in the oval office there is a beautiful statue of doctor martin luther king. and i also happen to like winston churchill, i think most of us like churchill. doesn't come from our country but had a lot to do with it, helped us, a real ally. and as you know, churchill's statue was taken out, the bust. and as you also probably have read, the prime minister is coming over to our country very shortly and they wanted to know whether or not i would like it back, i said absolutely but in the meantime we have a bust of churchill. so a reporter from the magazine, i've been on their cover 14 or 15 times, i think we have the all—time record, like, if tom brady is on the cover its because he won the super bowl or something. i have been on the cover 15 times this year. i don't think that record will
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ever be broken, what do you think? they said it was very interesting that donald trump took down the bust, the statue of doctor martin luther king. it was right there. but there was a cameraman that was right in front of it. so zeke from time magazine writes that i did that, i would never do that, out of respect for doctor martin luther king. but this is how dishonest the media is. the big story, the retraction was where, was a day line or do they bother putting it in? i only like to say that because i love honesty. i like honest reporting. i will tell you one final time although i will say it when you letting your thousands of other people that have been trying to come in because i am coming back, we will have to get a
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larger room. we are going to have to move to a larger room! and maybe, maybe, it will be built by somebody that knows how to build and we won't have columns. you understand that? we get rid of the columns. now i just really want to say that i live you, i respect you, we are going to doa you, i respect you, we are going to do a fantasticjob and start winning again and you are going to be leading the charge. so thank you all very much, thank you, beautiful, thank you all very much. i'll be back. i'll be back. thank you. donald trump visiting the cia headquarters on his first full day in office. most previous presidents
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wait months before they pay them a visit but mr trump is very keen to build bridges, as you can hear, saying no one holds the intelligence agencies in higher regard than donald trump. he talked again about the need to get rid of isis as he said that radical islamic terrorism must be eradicated. he was hoping to swear in his new caa chief, mike pompeo, during that visit but that has been delayed— cia chief. that has been delayed— cia chief. that has not been confirmed but is expected to be done on monday. so there we are, this cia knows that donald trump likes them. ukip leader paul nuttall has been confirmed as the party's candidate to fight next month's by—election in stoke—on—trent central. it was triggered by the resignation of leading labour moderate tristram hunt. ukip has high hopes of winning the seat, after more than two—thirds of voters there backed brexit
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in the eu referendum. our correspondent matt cole says paul nuttall believes this is his chance to get into parliament. it is very clear by becoming the candidate for stoke central that paul nuttall thinks he's got a chance. you don't really want to sort of tarnish your reputation as leader. now, this is actually his fifth attempt at getting a westminster seat. he's fought three general elections and a by—election previously, but he's still not quite at nigel farage's record — he took on seven, lost seven, so paul nuttall will be hoping to go one better than that. but the seat was taken by labour in the last general election, but only by 5000 ahead of ukip, who did come second, narrowly ahead of the tories. so hence paul nuttall will be thinking this is a chance for him the french national front leader, marine le pen, has predicted that brexit will have a domino effect across europe. she's been speaking at a gathering of far—right leaders from germany, france, italy and the netherlands in the german city of koblenz. they're discussing their shared opposition to the european union. addressing delegates,
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marine le pen declared 2017 will be the year of the awakening of the people of continental europe. the first real blow struck against the old order, the thing that will set off the dominant effect that will bring down all of europe is brexit. a sovereign people has decided to leave an agreement of the powerful to decide its own destiny. the second blow came shortly afterwards and that was the election of donald trump to the presidency of the united states, putting the friends of neoliberalism in an even more difficult situation. marine le pen. our correspondentjenny hill has been at the gathering in koblenz. europe's right—winger leaders really
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europe's right—wing leaders really believe that genuine political power is almost in their grasp. i think the whole point of today's meeting was very much to capitalise on what they see as the success of brexit. they've been emboldened too, and make no secret of it, by the victory of donald trump in the states. it is, i suspect, no coincidence that they scheduled this meeting for the day after the inauguration. but the real purpose, i think, was to come together and put out a public show of strength. a display of unity, if you like, at the beginning of what is, after all, for some of those leaders an election year. 23 people are still missing after an avalanche which destroyed a hotel in italy. james reynolds reports. from the ruins of the hotel, in the last moments of light
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on the third day, rescuers pulled this six—year—old girl to safety. she was the final member of herfamily to be saved. relief workers then carried away a boy who had been with her. concrete walls had protected them from the avalanche. later, rescuers made their way to four more survivors, two men and two women. the rescued adults and children were flown to hospital in a coastal city where they are recovering quickly. translation: the medical condition of the survivors is good. only one patient is currently in the operating theatre having surgery on their right arm. the survivors family members can now breathe again. translation: doesn't my face show how happy i am? it is great.
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i cannot describe it in words. i would like to see him but for now the boy is safe. fresh rescue teams prepared to relieve their exhausted colleagues this morning. they have plenty of work ahead. translation: we are going to take over. the rescue operation will continue through the night. we are convinced that we will find other people still alive. to find them, they will have to dig through tonnes of snow, rock and concrete. how many more survivors might there be underneath all of this? james reynolds, bbc news, rome. this crash
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reports from hungary say a teacher saved the lives of many pupils crash ives of many pupils after their coach crashed and caught fire near verona in northern italy —— killing 16 people. the pe teacher is said to have smashed windows to help those trapped inside to escape. nick thorpe has the details. it is 18 minutes to nine. the headlines. president trump has told the cia that it had its full support, as he paid a visit to mend fences after publicly rejecting its assessment that russia tried to help
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him win the election. the day of protests is being held across america and around the world against president trump and his new administration. the ukip leader paul nuttall will cost test next month ‘s by—election in stoke—on—trent central. the seed has been held high labour since it was created in 1950. the former president of the gambia, yahya jammeh. says he will relinquish power in the coming hours after his defeat in the country's elections last month. he has spent weeks refusing to step down. it comes after troops from other west african countries crossed into the gambia and threatened to remove mrjammeh by force. during the crisis his successor adama barrow has been in senegal —— where our reporter clarisse fortune asked him, what his first priority would be when he returns to the gambia. the economy is key, it is very important, it is something we will look at when we get into office. the economy is very important here. are
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you giving yourself three years? we are given a mandate and the mandate is to do thejob. and if given a mandate and the mandate is to do the job. and if the given a mandate and the mandate is to do thejob. and if the gambia feels we are doing it well,... what about the press, will it be free? very free. best thing. because we believe information is very important. with information people are enlightened. it also avoids rumours, there's a lot of rumours in the gambia because of lack of information and that will affect
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everybody, psychologically. i myself ama everybody, psychologically. i myself am a victim of that. it's been very difficult. we want to avoid that. am a victim of that. it's been very difficult. we want to avoid thatm there a plan for all the human rights violations? a plan for the people who committed those violations and also a plan to the victims of those violations? we will act based on those recommendations. that was the new leader of the
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gambia. back now to those protests being held across the world including in washington and london after president trump anspach aggression. in vienna bethany bell of the bbc spoke to some of those who came out to support the match. in vienna people at marching as they have been across europe, i am here with catherine, an american who has beenin with catherine, an american who has been in vienna for 17 years. why did you come out today? liverpool i have three children, this is my youngest, four is old and the thought that a child would feel less because of state m e nts child would feel less because of statements made by those in power makes me hot sick. what is your message today? women's rights and continuing reproductive rights and climate change, that science is real. that's one of the big messages today that i supported. it is not just women who have been out on the streets, it is men as well. where
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are you from? i am born in austria but i lived the 35 years in los angeles and it was very important for me to be cured to chose solidarity, to stand behind the women rioters and everything else this march is for. and why did you wa nt to this march is for. and why did you want to come out today?|j this march is for. and why did you want to come out today? i was not thrilled when i learned that donald trump had won the elections but we are in europe, it is the american people who have to do something, especially the women. because i think he insulted the women. and mexican people, a lot. that is not fair. some of those taking part in the protests in vienna today. our reporter has been speaking to demonstrators at the hague in the netherlands. they are marching in solidarity, celebrating diversity
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and encouraging empathy of values, values that they believe are now in jeopardy. this is all part of the global women's march. you can feel the dutch influences. people are highlighting the issues they feel are most destructive to society. this is to show many parties come up with populist slogans, and fear mongering, that we show here now. we are all different, all equal. some of these issues are what people believe made people vote for trump, fear and discontent, also present in the netherlands and they are warning dutch politicians to pay attention, this is ahead of elections in march and many believe they will be the first real indication of whether the populist victories in the uk and us have had any real impact on european mainland. that was from the
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netherlands. time for meet the author. we meet the man who has taken on the task of writing a sequel to the war of the worlds by hg wells. stephen baxter, maths and physics teacher turned author, is one of our best known science fiction writers with more than 40 books to his name, who has also collaborated with arthur c clarke and terry pratchett. now he ta kes c clarke and terry pratchett. now he takes on one of his biggest challenges, welcome. so the martians are back, why? they
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a lwa ys so the martians are back, why? they always intended to do, i think! the first expedition, as we know, failed, there was so much they did not anticipate, the bacteria on the earth, they did not anticipate our resistance. we did manage to down a fee with artillery shells. we did not expect these conditions. they know what they want and they know how to get it. so it is not just a sense of impending doom, it is the story of mutual incomprehension? i think so,
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is the story of mutual incomprehension? ithink so, rather like the stories of the americas, i guess. but the martians are on a different moral level, in a sense. and hg wells emphasised this. they are and hg wells emphasised this. they a re loyal to and hg wells emphasised this. they are loyal to each other. they treat us as are loyal to each other. they treat us as livestock, awkward livestock that could attack you if you are not careful but livestock. that is what we do with animals, they are loyal to each other, they come back for each other and save each other when they are wounded, they are trying to save their race from a catastrophe on mars. they talk in terms of hg wells with enormous respect —— you talk of him with amazing respect and respect for his vision. what does he mean to you? he was the father of science fiction. if he had done nothing else that would have been massively important. but he did also saw things. after his death we have rather forgotten that, he was a
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massive public figure all the way through to the second world war and popular in the first world war for his accounts of life in the trenches, the troops and so one. i think that his life's work, in a way, was crystallised by his work on the declaration of the rights of man. his work on that influenced... he was a famous idealist yet in his great science fiction books, the time the machine, and the war of the worlds he was doing something that had not been done before, imagining other worlds. no one had ever seen oi’ other worlds. no one had ever seen or read that before. it's too. there had been visions ofjourneys to other planets but nothing as rigorously fought out as his was, his vision of mars in particular, he used the logic of the time which was that the sun was cooling down and the further away from the sun a planet was, the older it was so mars
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is old and cooling and is locked in an ice age and the martians have had to reduce themselves to a bunker like existence to cling on. that is one of the fascinating things. that's one of the fascinating things that emerges in your own story the massacre of mankind — the sympathy for, as it were, the enemy, the other side. i think we, the readers, who aren't under the feet of the martians, can see glimmers of sympathy for them. as i say, they are loyal to each other. the way you talk about the story and the martians is interesting because you've written dozens of science fiction stories of your own but it's almost as if you're coming back to the motherlode of science fiction with this story. the fascination that we have with mars is the archetypal fascination with the other. in the telescopic age, mars was the only world whose surface you can see apart from the moon, which was obviously dead, so you could project your fantasies on it. which we did.
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all the way through to the 1960s, actually, when the first space probes went past and it was much more like the moon, as it turns out. now we believe life of some kind might be up there. yes, it is the motherlode of dreams. you talk about projecting ourfantasies. is that really what science fiction is about? well, i think you could say that science fiction is about... it's not about the future, or in other words it's about the here and now, predicting our concerns, in a way. so with wells and war of the worlds he was reflecting late victorian angst about imperialism and colonialism and the damage it can do to the colonial conscience, for one thing. now i think we could look at it as a metaphor for climate change. you know, the martians' planet has collapsed in a terrible way and migrants, heavily armed migrants, come to the earth. what is it that gives this story such a grip? is it the sense of impending doom? is it as simple as that? the fear that lurks
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inside all of us in some way? i think it works on many levels and as a myth you can take out of it what is relevant to your time. the sense of the universe as evolving around us, not necessarily to our liking, and we have to adapt. in other words, in every age there is some threat that seems impossibly big. and terrific. yes. as i mentioned earlier, you have collaborated with some extraordinary authors and arthur c clarke comes to mind. a name who's known to people who are not necessarily science fiction addicts as somebody who could imagine the unimaginable. what was he like when you communicated with him and talked to him late in his life? yeah, he was in his 80s when i was working. we had produced four books together. he had lived through so much. much of what he predicted logically had worked out. a lot of it hadn't.
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but he was continually interested... did that bother him? that he got it wrong? what i asked him about specifically was about space flight — how come we don't have places on mars now, as predicted. he said no, because so much of what has happened was so enriching. the robot probes to jupiter and beyond. he loved all that. he set novels out there late in life. so he never got tired of that curious search for the next thing that was coming round the corner? exactly, yeah. he was always open to curiosity, to new influences. to new writers. he read the latest sf, like mine, and stayed curious right till the end. let's go back finally to the martians themselves. when we've finished this book, what do you want us to think about the martians? i think the lesson we have to learn from the martians is what the characters are working for at the end of the book and, indeed, at the end of war of the worlds. in a way, the specific nature of the martians and their actions doesn't matter. it is the way they represent the wider context of our future.
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you know, our earth isn't infinite. it is one grain of sand in infinity. that is the specific story and you have to take it away. rather than columbus and what he did, his journey emphasised the globalisation of mankind. so i think it's the universalisation of mankind that you need to take away. would you like to meet a martian? i would probably be running fast the other way! i would be fascinated. if i could watch it from a height maybe, yes. watch from a distance. stephen baxter, thank you very much. thank you. back down to earth, it is very, very out... if: ‘two cold out there. —6 in one or two places, frost, a cold out there. —6 in one or two places, - frost, a mixture of places, severe frost, a mixture of weather, clear skies for some, thick patches of fog over central scotland and showers in south—west england,
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mostly rain, a bit of snow over the high ground, watch out for ice. some of these numbers are not low enough in some rural areas, minus seven degrees in some spots. crisp sunshine across eastern counties, further west, more clout, sunshine across eastern counties, furtherwest, more clout, shell sunshine across eastern counties, further west, more clout, shell is pushing up into wales and northern england, into southern scotland as well, that said, most of us will stay dry with the best of the sunshine by the afternoon across these more southern and eastern areas, a chilly feeling day and then fog will be an increasing problem through monday and into tuesday, disruption quite possible, watch out for warnings. this is bbc world news today, broadcasting in the uk and around the world. i'm geeta guru—murthy.
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president trump visits the cia on his first full day in office and promises to defeat islamic terrorism. it comes on the day that hundreds of thousands of people march in washington, and cities across the world, in protest at the trump presidency. this has to be eradicated, just off back the face of the earth. it is evil. this has to be eradicated, just off the face of the earth. it is evil. rescuers continue to dig at the site of the hotel rigopiano in central italy in the hope of finding more survivors of wednesday's avalanche. and people in the gambia are expecting to see its former president yahya jammeh leave the country after finally agreeing
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