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tv   The Papers  BBC News  January 22, 2017 10:30pm-10:46pm GMT

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everything is a bit late in tonight, so we everything is a bit late in tonight, so we will see how we can do! we will be taking a look at tomorrow's papers shortly, hopefully. first the headlines at 10.30pm: theresa may has refused to say whether she knew about a failed trident missile test when mps were voting to renew the weapons system. i have absolute faith in our trident missiles — when i made that speech in the house of commons what we were talking about was whether or not we should renew our trident. trade, nato and brexit are likely to be high on the agenda when the prime minister meets donald trump this friday. president trump and his white house team have launched a furious attack on the media, accusing them of lying about the size of the crowds at his inauguration on friday. a court in iran rejects an appeal against a five—year prison sentence given to a woman with dual british and iranian citizenship accused of security offences. hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be
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bringing us tomorrow. with us, broadcaster natalie haynes and deputy political editor of the independent rob merrick. luckily i remembered where you both work because it was not written down on my autocue! we are starting so well. are we dealing with plain facts tonight? yes, plain facts. i am so glad! the financial times leads with more reaction to the trump administration's hard line against what they are calling the ‘dishonest‘ media. the i says the prime minister's post—brexit plan is to reboot british industry. the daily express has claims from a leading brexit campaigner that up to a million eu migrants may head to the uk over the next two years. the metro says theresa may is ready to challenge president trump over sexist remarks when she meets him at the white house on friday. the telegraph says a free trade deal
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with the united states is likely to open the door to us jobs for british workers. the times reports that rural enterprises will be the biggest losers in upcoming business rate rises in england. and the daily mail claims terrorists and criminals are able to travel to britain without crossing border control because of a loophole on the eurostar. would you be surprised if i said we we re would you be surprised if i said we were going to start with donald trump? the financial times. trump sets tone for presidency with attacked and dishonest media. we of course got to see that last night on the news channel when that press conference took place, the press briefing. sean spicer, a man we will get to know the well, i am sure. an
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interesting press briefing. yes, perhaps contrary to popular opinion what the spokesperson tries not to do in britain is to live. they might not tell you the whole truth. the obscure the truth, of christ —— not do in britain is to li. they do not wa nt do in britain is to li. they do not want to be caught lying because that is devastating and their reputation a shot. we will not have the same ability to speak to the media again —— the obscure the truth, of course. this person has walked in and told e bald lie about the inauguration and i guess this isjust bald lie about the inauguration and i guess this is just the bald lie about the inauguration and i guess this isjust the new reality. kellyanne conway, his adviser, you know, if you wanted to say it was the most watched inauguration, that is probably true because of the people watching online and on tv, but not
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necessarily there in person. yes, an alternative two facts, i guess, like an alternative medicine. once it has been tested, it is just medicine. that is the route they have gone with and it is a strange choice. partly of course there is a vague sense of delight something so horrendous could happen. this press briefing, where it is notjust one thing that has gone wrong but ten things. the national parks hadn't given the numbers because they don't, the metro at given numbers because something was wrong, it was the first time they put white stuff on the floor and that meant they had to be less people. any screenwriter with tell you with the five excuses, it sounds a lot less convincing than it sounds a lot less convincing than it was before there is something compelling about watching somebody lie in that incredibly barefaced fashion except that anyone who has lived under an authoritarian regime will tell you, and indeed whether or
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not you want to believe them, you can suddenly go back to your george orwell, that the trick of an authoritarian regime is to persuade people that even incredibly inane things, however many fingers he is holding up, reading it at school, even a benign thing you can be made to lie about, so you see four fingers but say five. even just using the word lie makes me slightly anxious. because we do not call it that, do we? we have a whole range of different words for it, but no people are becoming emboldened. this is not a great way for this relationship to have started. if press briefings are going to prevent journalists from asking questions, if -- journalists from asking questions, if —— there is already such a terrible breakdown between the white house and the media, but where to start. during the iraq war saddam have a spokesman who would stand up and help barefaced lies about how iraqi troops were about to defeat
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the americans and of course he got a nickname, comical ali. what you are right. as a starting point between trump and the press, you would think it would be disastrous, but of course trump boasts of that, his millions of twitter followers, he will carry on with that and he hopes to community directly with them in a way that combines the traditional media which has left rates than it used to. sorry to have cotten, twitter users number about i6% of people in the uk and i guess it is roughly similar in the usa —— sorry to have cut in. quite a small minority of people. the piece that stood out for me today was that long post put out by the great american elder statesman of american broadcasting, basically saying that the washington press corps better get its act together and that they need to be challenging. if they are not getting answers from the white
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house they need to challenge other republicans and they need to ask those questions over and over again. i think those questions over and over again. ithinka those questions over and over again. i think a lot of us thought that with donald trump's press conference a couple of weeks ago when he shut down cnn. it was cnn, wasn't it? and i know it goes against the grain for journalists to band together as opposed to a skidding each other but the right thing for the next person to do was to ask this cnn question and if they do not band together it will be divide and rule —— as opposed to out—scooping each other. i think opposed to out—scooping each other. ithinka opposed to out—scooping each other. i think a scientist today said journalists need to teach people to think critically. if you are cut off thatis think critically. if you are cut off that is very difficult, as you say, so that is very difficult, as you say, so it needs to be a collective effort. but it is forensic stuff, being dog—eared, keep asking that same question. and we are often very quick to decry war on another type of news organisation, this is fake
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news, these ones are ok, this one is bad, but across the board this morning american broadcast media we re morning american broadcast media were criticising, even fox news, they were seeing, these are not lies. i wonder how unhelpful the buzzfeed reports were, because did into anybody‘s hans? he could see it is fake news put out to discredit me. that does not help of a journalists, does it? i think me. that does not help of a journalists, does it? ithink you're probably right. to publish those allegations when he couldn't be proved, yes, it gave him some ammunition to say, look at this, they cannot prove it. another thing that gets to me about today's events, the worrying thing, not stepping away from his relationship with the press, it isjust his priorities. you mentioned his visit to the cia yesterday and i read about that on the way in and of course he has had this bust up with the intelligence services... he says he holds them in incredibly high regard. but also it wasjust a
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bizarre ramble. the whole speech, going into... getting into the crowds, how much they loved him, how wonderful it was, speaking about the fa ct wonderful it was, speaking about the fact it had stopped raining, when it hadn't... his fact it had stopped raining, when it hadn't. .. his mindset, fact it had stopped raining, when it hadn't... his mindset, it seems to be that, doesn't it, people love me, a success, be that, doesn't it, people love me, a success, fantastic? he is still running a campaign, isn't he? instead of focusing on other things. not realising he has won. not governing. let's look at the metro. it is interesting howjournalists will have to deal with this new way of governing. the metro. this is the claim that theresa may will say the difficult things she needs to see if she feels it is appropriate. i'm no pussycay, challenging things donald trump has said that our offensive. but she has to get the deal for trade and nato and the really serious things? go for it.|j
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trade and nato and the really serious things? go for it. i was going to say, i think there are a few things in the question, before she got to the point where she said she got to the point where she said she would not be afraid to challenge donald trump. do we really think she will sit in the oval office with donald trump and speak about his misbehaviour? she might do, but the thing is what we think is a robust sort of approach gets somewhat piloted in diplomatic language, necessarily, doesn't it? —— gets somewhat diluted. and we have to bearin somewhat diluted. and we have to bear in mind that americans think that about the british anyway. they think we spend our whole time apologising and drinking tea, that is our whole thing. they basically think we are dowton abbey. so she will be, who, maggie smith? a lovely com pletely will be, who, maggie smith? a lovely completely baffling women from another universe as opposed to a releva nt another universe as opposed to a relevant one, our best scenario.
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trump said she would be his margaret thatcher. again, you start to not believe anything in the end. perhaps he believes that but the fact of the matter remains we are really little country in relation to them and they see us as country in relation to them and they see us as a sort of occasionally adorable but sometimes irritating, you know, ancient aunt. but we might be infora you know, ancient aunt. but we might be in for a decent trade deal. the daily telegraph saying it will open the door to us jobs? daily telegraph saying it will open the door to usjobs? as the door closes on the eu the open on opportunities in the states? does my face betray my attitude to that? opportunities in the states? does my face betray my attitude to that7m does, iam face betray my attitude to that7m does, i am afraid. do you know about the chlorine and the chickens?m this some sort of code message? laughter the myth is the eu did not want, or did not try hard enough to sign a free—trade deal with america, and we will try harder and get one and we
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will try harder and get one and we will be incredibly rewarded, but one of reasons why the reported trade deal with the eu collapsed is because the eu does not want to do everything america wants it to do in a so—called free trade deal and that means to accept much more environmental standards that they have in america, much lower food safety standards... which is how we get to the chlorine and the chickens? anyone who has eaten that in america says it is terrible, full of sugar, and the outgoing vice presidentjoe of sugar, and the outgoing vice president joe biden says of sugar, and the outgoing vice presidentjoe biden says he is not going to sign anything not wanted by the chicken farmers in delaware. the fa ct the chicken farmers in delaware. the fact is they are to lazy to worry about food standards all the way down the line to the supermarket shelf like we do in britain. that is a very big claim. i heard it from a top politician. what they do is sit these chickens in chlorine, in bleach, then send them out and they eat that in america x factor i am not saying chickens is the biggest pa rt of not saying chickens is the biggest part of a potential trade deal but i think it is indicative of the sort of thing we might be persuaded,
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forced, to do, to accept much lower standards in britain than the currently accepted cause we are so desperate to sign a trade deal with trump —— then they eat them in america. i trump —— then they eat them in america. lam not trump —— then they eat them in america. i am not saying. my apologies if you are a chicken reader! laughter —— chicken—rearer. -- chicken-rearer. i am delighted not to eating chicken for 29 years, all i can say. the i exclusive, theresa may's plan to reboot british industry. how will this happen? she is taking the cabinet out of london on an away day, to warrington, run to get across the point i suppose it is not all that london. and the idea that she has other ideas to remake the country, not all about brexit. completely separate to the european debate and tomorrow is the turn of
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changing our traditional focus on the universities above all else and trying to create a higher skilled workforce for the post brexit challenges ahead. very good, robert. i was not supposed to ask you about that story, was it? laughter it is very good. i threw that at you with no warning and off un! let's deal with the £40 billion question of the trident cover—up as well. entirely my fault. —— off you went. this was in the newspapers last night. why did parliament not know? why were they not told? this missile that went slightly astray. always a phrase you want to hear, isn't it? in close proximity to the word missile, slightly astray! towards america. in any direction would have been bad! america, that would obviously have been particularly embarrassing with her going there this week but it would have of
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course been bad going in any direction whatsoever, i would suggest! this do these tests, to find out. why should we be too concerned? they will work out what was wrong with the telemetry. we are setting the bar quite low for things we would like to go right! on the

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