tv The Week in Parliament BBC News January 29, 2017 2:30pm-3:01pm GMT
and what's going to be the long—term effect on the rest of the world? as an american judge issues a temporary halt to the deportation of visa holders and refugees, president trump receives support from nigel farage. trump's policy in many ways has been shaped by what mrs merkel did. he is fully entitled to do this and as far as we're concerned in this country, yes i would like to see extreme vetting. in yemen, us commandos kill at least 30 suspected al-qaeda fighters, as well as civilians. a statue of princess diana will be built in kensington palace by her sons prince harry and the duke of cambridge. the princes said 20 years after her death, the time was right to recognise their mother's positive impact around the world. those are the headlines, i will have more at 3pm. now on bbc news, it's the week in parliament. hello and welcome to
the week in parliament. the government loses the brexit case in the supreme court, but seizes the initiative in parliament. i can confirm to the house that our plan will be set out in a white paper, published to this house. ministers produce a brexit bill — mps complain about a lack of debating time. i was astonished at the amount of time that the leader of the house has given this parliament to debate it. and doubts over whether theresa may can stand up to donald trump. how confident is she of getting a good deal how confident is she of getting a good dealfor global britain from a president that wants to put america first, buy american and build a wall between his country and mexico? it's been a particularly fast—moving week for brexit. on tuesday, the government lost a legal battle over who should authorise starting the formal process for leaving the european union.
the government argued that it could use the royal prerogative, a power left over from the days of medieval monarchs. but the supreme court thought otherwise. the president, lord neuberger, said it was a task for parliament. today, by a majority of 8—3, the supreme court rules that the government cannot trigger article 50 without a parliament authorising it to do so. the government was quick to respond. a few hours later, the secretary of state for exiting the eu — david davis — promised to publish a bill seeking parliament's approval for triggering article 50. but some mps wanted to be clear about what they were voting for, and asked for a white paper setting out the government's strategy. david davis batted away their demands. will the secretary of state now agree to accept the unanimous recommendation of the brexit select committee, and, in the process, agree with himself, before he got this job, and now publish a white
paper on the government's objectives, so these can be considered, alongside the legislation he hasjust announced? i don't often dispute with myself, but let me say this to the right honourable gentleman, the speech given last week by the prime minister was the clearest exposition of a negotiating strategy that i have seen in modern times. it laid out very clearly what we judge the national interest to be, how we intend to protect it, what we want to do, what we hope does not happen, and how we're going to go about avoiding that, too. but on wednesday, at prime minister's questions, there was a surprise change of heart. i recognise there is an appetite in this house to see that direction set out in a white paper. i can confirm to the house that our plan will be set out in a white paper published to this house. so, a lot of activity on brexit.
this is how the snp‘s pete wishart saw it. what a week it's going to be. first there was to be no vote, now‘s a vote. then there was no bill, now there is going to be a bill. we should have chanced our arm and said we should definitely be staying in the european union! the timetable was laid out by david davis. presentation of bill, mr secretary, david davis. second reading, what day? tomorrow. cheering. tomorrow. here's a copy of the bill, and to discuss what it means for parliaments, a former clerk of the commons
who advised mps on parliamentary procedure. and a senior researcher from the institute of the government. you've seen many bills come and go in your time as a clerk in house of commons, what you make of this one? it's a very short bill, which the government will want to get through as quickly as possible. the opposition and very busy trying to find ways to amend this bill. could you just explain to us how they're going to go about this? how easy is it to get an amendment discussed in the commons? you can't have an amendment to negate the purpose of the bill, that would be out of order. there are two areas of amendment possible, one is to impose conditions before article 50 is triggered. and the area... when it is going to come into force. at the moment, there is no commencement provision in the bill. that means it will come into force when it has royal ascent, but it will be possible to put down amendments
to delay that. the big question is then, what about selection of amendments? if this goes to the committee of the whole house, it is the person selecting amendments is the chairman of ways and means. one area which is going to be really interesting is those who would like to have a post—negotiation referendum on the deal eventually reached may do that by amendment to this bill. but it's such a narrow bill, it may be decided that is outside the scope of the bill. this is notjust about procedure for many mps, this is about the substance of brexit. we've been promised a white paper, would you think ought to be in that white paper to satisfy mps? the purpose of the white paper should be to give mps confidence that the government is ready to start negotiations. that it has thought through those negotiating principles and has not just, thought it through in another way. what we might see is an evidence base, showing the government weighed up the cost as well as opportunities
of its different negotiating opportunities. for example, to leave the customs union, has it weighed up the costs and benefits of that? other things you might expect to see in that white paper and that mps would want to see, might be an expiration of how they will be able to scrutinise negotiations as they proceed. we heard, for example, that the government wants meps and mps to have the same level of information about negotiations. we know that european parliamentarians tend to get quite a high level of information, they sometimes have access to private copies of provisional agreements or private briefings with negotiators. could that happen for mps? could there be access to private documents? secret documents? there may be for example reading rooms put an place in the palace of westminster to allow certain mps to draft agreements as they're being developed. what is your assessment of how this will go in the commons? it will all depend on the numbers. the government will want to proceed quickly.
in the explanatory notes to this bill, they said they are going to fast—track it, that means, essentially, amendments can be tabled before the second reading debate. thereafter, it's a matter of how quickly they want to push on with it. it may be a sensible to programme it quite generously. timetabling? yes, there's timetabling in the commons, but that isn't in the lords. a generous programme would allow a wide expression of views. that might draw some of the difficulty out of the commons. you are a member of the house of lords, there is no time limit, they can talk about any amendment for as long as they like. do you think the government will have much more difficulty in the house of lords? it may be that the government has to work a little harder presenting its case, because there are so many ramifications of this, even though
the bill is so short. it is interesting how many members said the lords must not be silly about this, because the commons is the elected house. the lords can ask the commons to think again, but it would be difficult, after a lengthy consideration in the commons to identify areas where it would be reasonable to ask the commons to think again. so, you believe the lords will not be silly? i very much hope they will not be. are you confident... it has been said this is a great opportunity for parliament? it is heartening to see that parliament will be involved in the very beginning, but also having a vote at the end. the other thing to say about parliament is it's notjust an opportunity for mps to have their voices heard, the public, third sector, businesses, to use parliament as a channel to have their voices heard in the negotiations. are we going to see some golden
years in parliament now? i agree with everything robyn said, but it hangs on uncertainty. if things are being decided in the two chambers, and you can't predict what's happening, and people will not be able to predict what is happening over the next two years. if parliament can position itself that it is taking a central part in that process, it will be a very good time for parliament. thank you very much. the government has announced the timetable for debating the brexit bill. there'll be two days for the second reading and three days for detailed scrutiny — called the committee stage — when amendments can be made. some labour mps don't think that's enough. i was astonished at the amount of time that the leader of the house has given this parliament to get debate it. has given this parliament to debate it. and he is being very coy about whether the white paper will be published before the committee stage of the bill. can he give us more time and tell us he's going to publish the white paper before next week?
i think, if you consider that this is a two—clause bill, in which the second clause is only dealing with the extent of the bill to the united kingdom, there is plenty of time, including two full days at second reading for all opinions to be fully expressed. as we discussed earlier, the government could find things rather more challenging in the house of lords. here's a taste of what's to come. we will, therefore, be seeking to amend the bill to provide for a referendum to be held which the government has been able to negotiate. the government may have a mandate to start brexit negotiations, it certainly does not have a mandate to impose harsh brexit terms on the country. does my noble friend accept that if parliament accepted the advice and treated the referendum as advisory and decided this country should not leave the eu, there would be no option for those
of us who were in the majority and voted to leave, other than to take to the streets and probably start breaking things? all i can say is that i very much hope this does not happen. i thank the lordships for the constructive positions made through this process that we will avoid that. the prime minister, theresa may, is one of the first foreign leaders to meet donald trump. in a speech during her trip to the united states, she said the uk and us could not return to what she called "failed" military interventions, "to remake the world in our own image". but she also said they should not "stand idly by when the threat is real". donald trump has made a series of controversial policy statements during his first week as president, including saying that waterboarding — a form of torture — "absolutely works". before her visit, theresa may insisted that she, too, would speak her mind. i'm pleased that i am able to meet president can't so early in his administration. that is a sign of the strength
of the special relationship between the united kingdom and the united states of america. a special relationship on which he and i intend to build. can i also say to the leader of the opposition, i am not afraid to use the frankly to a president of the united states. i am able to do that because we have that special relationship. a special relationship that he would never have with the united states. mr speaker, we would never allow britain to be sold on the cheap. how confident is she of getting a good deal for global britain from a president who wants put america first, buy american american and build a wall between his country and mexico? the foreign secretary, borisjohnson, was also quizzed by a lords committee on the uk's relationship with the united states.
boris johnson chose his words carefully. do you think it's acceptable on the international relations shared by the uk and us to have a ban on refugees from certain middle east countries? i don't want to disappoint the committee by retreating too much into this formula, but we haven't yet seen the legislation brought forward. rather than get into some sort of hypothetical dispute, let's see exactly what the proposals are. president trump has been very clear that he wants to eliminate radical islamic militancy from the face of the earth and he has been clear that he is prepared to have a new approach to prioritise the defeat of isis, would you support a change of us—uk direction in that... to support those goals, possibly even joining forces figuratively and militarily
with russia to do so? we are already with, the united states, engaged in attacking daesh in iraq. the committee will already know of what is sought, we are are you prepared to see are you prepared to see an alliance of forces, including russia, to attack daesh? to switch sides, to come in on the side of assad and the russians and would be seen as, i think, a great betrayal of the people of syria who have opposed assad and it would be seen would be seen as a betrayal of the moderately—armed opposition that we have supported and it would be a... it would have grave repercussions in the area. this week sees the centenary of a report which helped pave
the way for votes for women. at a speaker's conference in 1917, the issue was debated and resolutions were sent to the prime minister, lloyd george. as an exhibition in parliament reveals, the key vote proved to be a close one. here's ros ball. britain during the first world war. with men sent to the front, women did the jobs they left behind. an exhibition in parliament shows how, as the war dragged on, their contribution showed mps and peers electoral reform. of course, here were men in the middle of the war fighting and dying all over the world and it was politically acceptable and it wasn't politically acceptable to have a next general election on the basis. they had to give the vote to more men and because women had been playing such a great part in the war
effort, they had to discuss whether to give the vote to some women as well. mps and peers debated the issue injanuary 1917 in a conference. it was andy dickinson who came up with this, as his granddaughter recalls. the final one, as you can see, this is where he made his proposition that women of a certain age, which only won by nine votes to eight. this accent into giving the vote to women with a property obligation. having more women in parliament, because we're not very good at it in the country, and particularly bad in the conservative party, it's wonderful for me to have this extraordinary heritage through my grandmother and her father, sir willoughby.
and you can see more of the vote 100 exhibition online at the parliament.uk website. now for a quick round—up of a few other stories in westminster. there was an unusual moment at the brexit committee after the chief minister of gibraltar made some impassioned remarks about the historic links between the people of gibraltar and the uk. we are born british. that rock is red, white and blue for us. there is nothing that we have known. the make—up of my understanding of the world is british. how can i suddenly now do something else? i can seek fluent conversational spanish but not professional or political spanish in a way i might be expected to, should i have to navigate the waters of the spanish system. look at the spanish system today, it doesn't have much to commend it to the people of the world. we criticise ourselves in the british system so constantly and constructively that we it stronger. that's the system we believe in. that's the rule of law we believe in. my blood is red, but i'm red,
white and blue inside out and so is that rock. we will never ever counternance changing that. applause. that was a most passionate argument. gordon brown — the former prime minister — was back in parliament to talk about his role as the un's global envoy for education. i was in a village just outside duba and there was this project, the bangladesh group who do the small huts in schools. there are places in that school for only about 20 kids and i remember being in that hut. in there, there were 100 kids who were unable to get the education they wanted. one mother said she had to choose between twins, both eight years old, which one went to school. and the wales bill came to the end
after a rather turbulent journey through parliament. the former welsh secretary, the conservative stephen crabb, was a driving force behind the legislation. the original objectives, madam deputy speaker, that we sought to set out right at the start have not changed. what we wanted to do was create a stronger devolution settlement for wales. a clearer devolution settlement to end the constant arguing that resulted in the uk government and welsh government trotting off to the supreme court to argue about which administration is responsible for what aspect of policy. it is ridiculous. but he didn't think it was the end of the book — as he put it — on welsh devolution. but i think that we do need a prolonged period now where the welsh government actually learns to really deploy its powers and used its competence in a way that benefits the people of wales. at the start of the week, the defence secretary sir michael fallon was summoned to the commons to answer questions about newspaper reports of an unarmed trident missile going off—course during a test launch. sir michael refused
to give much away. injune last year, the royal navy conducted a demonstration and shakedown operation designed to certify hms vengeance and her crew prior to their return to operation. this included a trident missile test launch. prior to this, hms vengeance and her crew were successfully tested and certified as ready to rejoin the operational cycle. we do not comment on the detail of a submarine operations. the secretary of state has advised us not to believe everything we read in the sunday newspapers but should we believe the white house official who, while we've been sitting here debating, has confirmed to cnn that the missile did auto self—destruct off the coast of florida? if that is the case, why is the british parliament and british public the last people to know? we do not in this house,
nor has any previous government, given operational details of the demonstration and shakedown operation of one of our submerines, conducting a test with one of our trident missiles. the defence committee took up the issue, inviting lord west — who was once head of the navy — to give evidence. he briefed mps about nuclear missile tests and said finding out the details was easy — if you knew who to ask. first of all, we have to inform all the aviators, aviator people, because it's firing across the atlantic. also, whether it's an american firing or not, we inform russia so they don't think we are starting world war iii. we are very aware this all happen.
we don't even know which date the tests took place on, but i have heard a suggestion that it was on the 20th ofjune. are you in a position...? i absolutely don't know. i don't know the date and i don't know why, i can see no reason whatsoever... i can tell you, i could phone up mr putin, because i did him for him, rescuing some submariners when they were drowning, and he could tell me. he would certainly know the date. now let's take a look at what's been happening in the wider world of politics this week. ben butcher has our countdown. ed miliband spoke for the first the time at prime minister's questions since he was at the dispatch box and mps were more than happy to welcome him back. it brings back memories, actually. laughter. what do you give the man who has everything? a traditional scottish ornament was given to president trump by theresa may. michael gove got a vote of confidence when discussing the ups
and downs of political life. there's always a chance of revival. speakerjohn bercow was the victim of a mic gaffe when he offered advice to michael fallon on how to deal with the legionnaires. and old habits die hard, as baroness boothroyd found herself using an old technique to calm the chamber. order! very good way to begin the week! we end with some worries about housekeeping. there are a host of problems with the palace of westminster. the plumbing fails regularly and the electrical system is faulty, increasing the likelihood of fires. and, there's a lot of asbestos that needs removing. there are strongly—held views on whether mps should move out or stay while the work is carried out. labour's chris bryant says the best — and cheapest — option is for everyone to leave.
our predecessors got it hideously wrong 19th—century. they delayed doing necessary work. that meant the fire in 183a was not only possible but inevitable. we lost the chapel and the most beautiful medieval buildings renewal, they were then sends insisting on staying on—site in early new building was built around them and complained about the noise and the design. the result was more long delays and a massive budget overrun. but the conservative edward leigh is on the other side. as during the second world war, the house of commons debating chamber shoots at all sides be maintained in the palace of westminster. it is known that this was alluded to byjennifer ronda. there is an alternative expert independent review.
instead of building what i believe to be a folly costing £85 million of a replica chamber in the courtyard of which would house, that we should use the house of lords chamber. what the two mps do agree on, though, is that parliament needs to make a decision as soon as possible. but the government hasn't set a date for debating an issue that's almost as controversial as whether to remain or leave the eu. and that's it from me for now, but dojoinjoanna shinn on monday night at 11pm for another round up of the day at westminster. but for now, from me, kristiina cooper, goodbye. i was going to say something a bit more straightforward in british politics, british weather, but that is not the way of it, things are changing rapidly. quite a mix on
offer today, glorious at the moment across the greater parts of scotland but less glorious than yourself. tell the show, you are not alone in derbyshire, we have ushered in the first of a succession of weather fronts from the atlantic. that has spread doom and gloom across the southern half of britain as the day has gone on. further north, glorious sunny weather, make the most of it because you won't see the lack of it again for as long i should say for the forthcoming week. if you have a plan for the next couple of hours, i don't think there will be a great deal of change. like an patchy in the east, it will fill in some more. not overly warm, having had a frosty start, the cloud rolled in. those sorts of numbers in parts of scotla nd sorts of numbers in parts of scotland but at least you have the sunshine through the day and it has been dry. as soon as the sun goes down the temperatures will fall away across the northern half of britain, we are suggesting, like last night, there could be an issue on untreated surfaces with ice. a lot of cloud in
the south although the rain turns off. further north, somebody will see —10 perhaps in the balmoral area. forthcoming week, a change. spells of rain, quite windy but markedly milder at times. this is the way we start the day. notjust frosty across the north, freezing fog, in the central belt it could lingerfor fog, in the central belt it could linger for good fog, in the central belt it could lingerfor good parts of fog, in the central belt it could linger for good parts of the day. a bit of rightness in northern and eastern parts of britain but further south and west, the weather fronts with vigour cloud and increasingly mild air. the hilltops will be shrouded in fog. the best of the brightness and last of the brightness and last of the brightness for a while across northern and eastern parts because on tuesday, another set of weather fronts will show their way slowly across the british isles. this is what's really beginning to change. the cold continental pair and something more atlantic space is coming, temperatures more widely closer to double figures. that weather front tuesday into wednesday
is wriggling around, notjust sweeping right through the british isles. that's a headache for forecasters and a headache for you on tuesday, wednesday on the eastern side of britain. the exact timing of when it clears is open to some doubt. brighter sky is falling behind that another set of fronts and fairly unsettled end to the week. all the details you want on the bbc weather website. this is bbc news. the headlines at three: the foreign secretary, borisjohnson, criticises donald trump's ban on people from seven muslim countries the us calling it "divisive and wrong". opposition leaders have called for the president's planned state visit to the uk to be cancelled unless the ban is lifted. i'm not happy with him coming here until the ban is lifted because look at what is happening with those countries, how many more is it going to be? and what will be the long—term effect of this on the rest of the world?