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tv   Outside Source  BBC News  January 30, 2017 9:00pm-9:31pm GMT

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hello, i'm ros atkins, this is outside source. it's only been a week since he left office and barack obama is back in us politics. he's condemned discrimination based on religion, as a clear reference to daondl trump's immigration ban. that won't deter mr trump. he says he's honouring a campaign promise and this is about american safety not prejudice. and this is what's happening in westminster. protests are continuing against the measures around the world — this is the scene in london now. meanwhile, the president has been signing new orders today. there will be regulation, there will be controlled, but it will be an normalise control where you can open your business, expand your business are very easily. fulfilling another campaign promise, the president says that for every new regulation, two will have to be removed. last week you asked us a lot of
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questions about the trump presidency. these are the contact details. it's rare for a former president to talk about a current president, let alone a week after leaving. this is president obama via his spokesperson telling us the president is fundamentally disagreeing with the notion of discriminating because of faith or religion. donald trump doesn't see his immigration ban in those terms, it is just about security and is not wavering. he took to twitter earlier
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to say the reason it wasn't announced because if you announce it with one week's notice, the bad would rush into our country in that week. these are some of the scenes week. these are some of the scenes we have seen in the us over the last few days since the executive order was signed. all are protests in some of the country's biggest cities against donald trump executive order on immigration. 16 state attorneys general have said the ban is unconstitutional. and severalfederal judges have halted the deportation of visa holders. let's bring ourselves up today on how this executive order is functioning. anthony zurcher is in washington. what is happening at the moment? what is happening at the moment7m isa what is happening at the moment7m is a moving target. we have heard
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conflicting stories about who was allowed back into the country and who wasn't. green card holders are allowed to enter the country. individuals with dual passports say coming from the uk opposed to other people with dual passports from the seven announced countries, they are allowed in. iran, iraq, syria, sudan, somalia and then coming to the country from those with those passports, they are getting questioned and detained upon entrance. but, the whole programme was rolled out haphazardly. it is being enforced in different ways in different places and that has contributed to a lot of the confusion. we have had a few m essa 9 es confusion. we have had a few messages from supporters of mr trump asking why not talking about what president obama did over the iraqi refugees. we didn't find out until
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after the fact in 2013. he did put about a six—month hold on placement and processing of iraqi refugees coming into the us following evidence there had been some al-qaeda operatives, who were mixing in with the refugee applications and several had been placed in kentucky. that was different in this order in that it was targeted specifically to refugees. not anyone, with iraqi nationality or iraqi passport trying to enter the country. not nearly as broad. there is an argument to be made that president obama did specifically single out a national lavezzi as far as refugees go and put a hold on that. similar to what donald trump has suggested for the refugee programme. don't go anywhere. i know you will be with us for the next few minutes. for those who message me about that president
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0bama policy, thank you very much. just to re—iterate. there's an indefinite ban on syrian refugees. and all travellers who have nationality or dual nationality of iran, iraq, libya, somalia, sudan, syria and yemen are not permitted to enter the us for 90 days. thousands will be affected. anthony, there is controversy in lots of different countries because of this policy. we are seeing protests, not just in of this policy. we are seeing protests, notjust in the us, but elsewhere. i wonder how informative these protests a re elsewhere. i wonder how informative these protests are as a guide to public opinion? that is the question. a lot of people in the us voted against donald trump, voted for someone other than donald trump. when we were talking about 50 million people, that still doesn't, that's a lot of people who can show up that's a lot of people who can show up and protest. the idea this
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representative of the nation at large, when a lot of people voted for donald trump, you will have two c. we are talking about hundreds of people at around the country protesting and thousands protesting in washington, dc. and the woman's march last week, there is a groundswell of opposition, but if you held a vote to who would support donald trump, there is no guarantee he wouldn't win again. coming back to you in a moment. none of this should come as any sort of surprise. donald trump has made no secret of his intentions if he becomes president. he is seeking the nomination. donald] trump is calling for a complete shutdown of muslims coming into the united states until our country's representatives can figure out what the hell is going on. at that time vice president mike
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pence was governor of indiana and he tweeted... "calls to ban muslims from entering the us are offensive and unconstitutional." well here is vice president pence watching on as donald trump signed the executive order at the centre of this story. certainly not looking offended. let's bring anthony back in. this is one of the curiosities, people who we re one of the curiosities, people who were critical of donald trump when he was trying to get the nomination are working alongside him and appear happy about that. people like mike pence and people who oppose donald trump's sweeping ban, when he proposed it in december 2015, would say this is different, this is not a muslim ban, it is targeting certain
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countries in a temporary way. the opponents of the provision say it is effectively a muslim ban because they are muslim countries. but republicans are sitting on their hands for the most part. there have been some objections from some conservatives in some swing states and senators who have said it is going too far, or it wasn't thought through a lot when it was being implemented. but that's part as the top level of republicans, they are sticking with the president, or at least not been vocal in their opposition. whichever side of the political spectrum you come from, there is no disputing the first week was something. will we continue at that pace? i think so. it is time to buckle up. tomorrow night donald trump will nominate his supreme court justice. it will trump will nominate his supreme courtjustice. it will be a huge fight in congress. we still have a
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lot of confirmation hearings, rex tillotson, and i don't think we will get a break. thank you very much. we will be live at the state department in washington, dc with barbara plett usherin in washington, dc with barbara plett usher in about 20 minutes. this immigration ban has demanded a response forced most world leaders to take a position. this is angela merkel. translation: the necessary and if fight against terrorism doesn't justify a general suspicion against people of a certain belief, in this case against people of muslim belief 01’ case against people of muslim belief or people of a certain origin. in my opinion this procedure runs contrary to the basic idea of international refugee aid and international cooperation. the african union represents countries across the continent. it's holding a summit at the moment — one of its most seniorfigures has said...
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"the very country to which many of our people were taken as slaves during the transatlantic slave trade has now decided to ban refugees from some of our countries." so some extremely sharp words coming from the european union. next, this is the irish prime minister enda kenny during a press conference with theresa may. i disagree with the policies introduced by the american government. but i don't want a situation where 35 million irish—americans who signed on for connections with this country or the 50,000 undocumented irish in the states are left without contact or connection. that was at a press conference earlier in dublin. here is theresa may on the immigration ban. the united states is a close ally of the united kingdom. we work together across many areas of the united kingdom. we work together across many areas of mutual interest. we have the special relationship between us. i have
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issued that invitation, invitation for a state visit to president trump to the united kingdom and that invitation stands. theresa may was also clear that that her invitation to donald trump to make a state visit still stands. quite a few people have a different view. this is a petition calling for the invitation to be rescinded. roughly six hours ago 1.3 million had signed it. now we're up to 1.5 million. big number, but doesn't necessarily tell us about public opinion more broadly. the uk's top selling newspaper the sun approves of the what it calls the "cautious approach" being taken. it will help her to secure a us
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trade deal. we had to secure the position of the uk government in the context of brexit. let's turn to these protests we have seen in london. our correspondent is in london. there were thousands and thousands of people. just a small group now compared to that earlier number. traffic trying to get through had to be stopped. there were a number of buses who had to ask their passengers to get off because they could not get through because they we re could not get through because they were so many could not get through because they were so many people. these protests was organised in the last 48 hours on facebook. the prediction was around 23,000 people would be here. but i have never seen whitehall this fall. it was difficult to move. the strength of feeling when you spoke
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to people, they were very defiant but it was a very calm atmosphere. lots of different chanting riffling through the crowds throughout the evening. one been repeated was, shame on may. a lot of people who are disappointed with donald trump and his presidency so far, a lot of people frustrated at the uk's responds and directing a lot of their frustration towards theresa may. i was going to ask you about theresa may's position. it is difficult, it is not as simple as condemning donald trump, because she has to do business with him, particularly when brexit is out of the way? that was the point i put too many protesters i spoke to in the crowd, in terms of asking them did they have any sympathy for theresa may's position. there was a student i spoke to who said it was the first time he came out to protest about anything. he said that
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actually for him, he felt like theresa may should have been more vocal and when she visited donald trump for the first visit to the united states, he felt, despite those considerations, she should have gone further. thank you very much, i appreciate it. people have been treating me saying iam people have been treating me saying i am inaccurately reporting this petition. i said they were calling for the invitation to a state visit to be rescinded. to be clear, there is the petition. it says donald trump should be allowed to enter the uk in his capacity as head of the us government. but not make it a state visit because it would be embarrassing to her majesty the queen. plenty more on this to come, barbara plett—usher is live for us from the state department. if you have any questions about what is happening, get them in and we
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will put them to barbara in a few minutes. theresa may was in dublin today and was asked about triggering article 50. the debate on article 50, the bill to give the government power to trigger article 50 will start tomorrow with its second reading. my message to people is clear, people of the united kingdom voted on the 23rd ofjune last year. they voted in a referendum that was giving to them by parliament. the parliament voted to give the people of the decision as to whether we should stay in the european union. the people spoke in that vote. the majority voted for us to leave the european union. i think it is now the job of the government to put that into practice. i hope when people look at the article 50 bill, they will recognise it is a
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simple decision do they support the will of the british people or not? this is outside source live from the bbc newsroom. our lead story is: donald trump has been defending his immigration ban, as criticism continues from around the world. we will come back to the trump presidency, but now let's turn to canada. let's bring you the latest on that shooting at a mosque in canada. police in quebec now sayjust one of the men they arrested is considered a suspect. six people were shot dead on sunday night. this is quebec city. if we drill in the map, i can show you the mosque itself, the quebec islamic cultural centre. one of the men was captured near the mosque, the other called police an hour after the shooting to give his location. more on that in a bit, first, here's
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what the canadian prime minister has had to say to his country's muslim population. you'll enrich our shared country in immeasurable ways. it is your home. last night's horrible crime against the muslim community was an act of terror committed against canada and against all canadians. we will grieve with you, we will defend you, we will love you and we will stand with you. let's bring you all the latest from paul adams. quebec's islamic cultural centre, normally a quiet corner of a quiet city, but now a sense of disbelief that something like this could happen here. two men, one armed with an assault rifle, burst in on worshippers as they prayed.
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six men, aged between 35 and 65, were killed. two men are in custody. one was picked up at the scene. he is mohammed abu khdair of moroccan heritage. the other was found in his car 14 miles away. he had called the police minutes after the attack, saying he was armed but want to cooperate. but the police now say there is only one considered a suspect. we are in the early stage of the investigation. we try to determine all of the facts associated with the incident. the canadian prime minister is due to visit quebec. he called the shootings a terrorist attack on muslims. the quebec premier had this to say. we're with you. this is your home. you're welcome here. we were hoping the fact that we had such an open and peaceful society this would make us
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immune from violence we see around the world. obviously this is not the case. the cultural centre has been targeted before. last summer, a pig's head was left on the doorstep in the middle of ramadan. police have yet to say if they believe last night's deadly attack was connected. we have spent most of the programme talking about the executive order from donald trump on this immigration ban. but he has been signing more today. one is aimed at reducing federal regulation. here he is explaining it. if you have a regulation you want, it has already been approved probably in 17 different forms. but we have two knockout two regulations for every new regulation. so if there is a new
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regulation, they have to knock out two. but we will not be cutting regulations for small business. that is what this is about today. this will be the biggest act our country has ever seen. there will be regulation, there will be controlled but it will be normalised control where you can open your business and expand your business very easily. that is what our has been all about. should i sign it? that's great. that's a big one. to another executive order. i wonder if the practicalities are the same, let's speak to samira hussain in new york. how will this
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work? those are the same questions many of us have when it comes to this. it is one of those executive orders that doesn't have a lot of detail. it will be up to one of the appointees from the office budget to be able to implement that. that person has yet to be confirmed. so a lot of it is going to be up to that person's discretion whoever he may end up being. that is some of the problems. in terms of how this may be implemented or how practical it is to really say you can only put in one new rule, you have to get rid of two others. there is all sorts of questions about that and none of those will be answered any time soon. those will be answered any time soon. i presumably think it is quite ha rd to soon. i presumably think it is quite hard to define a regulation? one might affect the whole industry and another might be very small and insignificant? absolutely. the kinds of reviews he is looking at, there
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are some areas that already have to do these kinds of yearly reviews of the regulations that work for them. there is already some of this review process in place to streamline these kinds of regulations. so how this executive order would supersede that or how that would work in tandem with that, again there are more questions. unfortunately, in this particular executive order there isn't enough detail to look behind that. thank you very much. many americans support new immigration measures. a national poll of 899 people conducted in early january showed american voters support 48 versus 42% suspending immigration from ‘terror prone' regions, even if it means turning away refugees from those regions."
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the bbc‘s olivia lace—evans has been to staten island in new york to hear what people are making of all the developments. whatever needs to be done, has to be done. this is for the safety of everybody. we are living in a dangerous world and donald trump's numberone dangerous world and donald trump's number one job is to protect the american people. we live in a democracy and if the majority of people feel threatened and they want to have things in place, then we should be able to have things in place. i think circum- stances in the middle east over the last four or five years have required a degree of caution that we have not been exercising before. ithink of caution that we have not been exercising before. i think it is appropriate. i have mixed feelings because members of my family came here as immigrants. but they came here as immigrants. but they came here at a much different time in history. now, with all the lone
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wolves that operate and attack the us, we need to have some form of vetting in place. i trust him, his numberone vetting in place. i trust him, his number one job is to protect the american people and he is doing it. that is why he was voted in. do i agree with what he's doing right now? now i don't. but i feel he has a reason for doing what he is doing and we will have to wait and see. my parents are immigrants as well. although they came here legally on a visa and stuff like that, hopefully in the future, they can have a future the way our family did. in the future, they can have a future the way our family didm people want to come to my country and live here and stay here, it vetting is part of the process, that should be acceptable to them as if i we nt should be acceptable to them as if i went to their country and there was a vetting process in place, that i would have to abide by. in terms of some of the families stopped at the
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airport who had already had their security checks and their visas? we are very threatened in this country and there is a lot of things the government knows about in terms of security and threats to our country. if they feel this is necessary, then i come with it all the way. if you want more about the trump presidency, you can access the online. also on the bbc news website as well. if you want to send m essa 9 es as well. if you want to send messages and questions on, particularly the trump presidency, use the hash tag all my social media contact. i will go online straightaway and answer some questions. i will be back with you here ina questions. i will be back with you here in a couple of minutes. good evening. if the long winter
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months are getting you down, i wonder if the idea of an australian summer wonder if the idea of an australian summer might appeal to you? at the moment you might find things a little bit too hot. a real heat wave has set in across the south—eastern corner. hot air has been wafting towards the coast. on the coast of new south wales on monday, we had temperatures up to 43 degrees! exceptional, even for this part of the world. but it will change to the next couple of days. this cold front is bringing downpours and thunderstorms but also some cooler air. sidnei, 26 degrees. that might be more comfortable. still plenty of heat. if you are lucky enough to be planning a trip down under, there could be some travel delays across northern areas. further thunderstorms to come here. it will cool off, and some heavy and thundery downpours in perth. the south america, and a serious story in chilly. wildfires which have been
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burning for days and days now, these pictures from san diego, these fires continued to burn and the weather is not helping to help extinguish the fire is. although there are showers to come across mountainous areas, at low levels, it is bone dry on tuesday with temperatures in santiago at 33 degrees. the rain is across the north—east of brazil. some rain across parts of south america. enough to cause some prodding, just not in the places where we need it. from rain to snow. there is an wintry weather to come across north—east usa over the next 24 hours. this weather system coming across the midwest and into the north east. from chicago, the detroit and new york, there could be wintry weather on tuesday and feeling cold in this north—westerly wind. temperatures not much above freezing. it is quite across western
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pa rt freezing. it is quite across western part of the states, but snow developing in the north—west as we go through this week. cold air has been the story across europe for days. even weeks, to be honest. but out west, a change. mild air is beginning to nudge its way in. with the mild air, weather systems are bringing outbreaks of rain into spain and portugal and into france, snow across germany and down into the czech republic. tuesday afternoon remains cold across eastern europe. minus six in moscow and minus two in ankara. notice the mild air is edging further east. at home, things will be turning malden through the rest of this week. but, very unsettled areas of low pressure hurtling towards us. if you want any more details, joint darren in half an hour. hello, i'm ros atkins, this is outside source. let's look through some of the main stories here in the bbc newsroom. the lead story comes from america.
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barack obama has said he's heartened by protests around the us — and expressed his objections monday to any faith—based discrimination. that won't deter mr trump. who says this is a ban against people who threaten the us. and that he's happy with the way the travel ban is progressing. the un refugee agency tells us that thousands of refugees will be affected by the 120 day ban put in place by the trump administration. we will have a report from a un base in beirut.
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