tv Victoria Derbyshire BBC News February 16, 2017 9:00am-10:55am GMT
a million pensioners are not receiving the support they are entitled to. we will look at what it means for those that need it. and why is so hard to talk about the menopause? the first time i had a hot sweat, it did take me by surprise. what is that? what am i sitting on! it is like sitting on a radiator. hello. welcome to the programme, we're live until ”am this morning. we're also talking about social care this morning, after the charity age uk said hundreds of thousands of elderly and vulnerable people in england are not receiving the help they need, even though they are struggling with essential daily tasks such as washing, eating and using toilet. the charity says the system is close to collapse in some parts of the country. let us know your experiences, use the hashtag, #victorialive
and if you text, you will be charged at the standard network rate. malaysian police have arrested two more people in connection with the death of kim jong—nam, the half—brother of north korean leader kim jong—un. he died after apparently being attacked at the airport in the malaysian capital kuala lumpur earlier this week. one of those arrested was a woman travelling on an indonesian passport. sarah corker reports. how, in a crowded airport in broad daylight, was a man poisoned to death? malaysian police are trying to piece together how kim jong—nam died as he waited to board a flight at kuala lumpur airport. these cctv images appear to show one of the suspects. police have now arrested two women, one carrying a vietnamese passport, the other an indonesian one. south korea's spy agency believes suspected north korean agents are behind the assassination. translation: the cause of murder seems likely to be of poison. but it is to be checked precisely through autopsy.
inside north korea, thousands gathered to mark the birthday of the country's late leader, while the isolated nation's current ruler, kim jong—un, has remained silent on the death of his estranged half—brother. back in the malaysian capital, north korean officials including the ambassador were seen visiting the hospital on wednesday. this is the kim dynasty. kim jong—il had five children. kim jong—nam, the eldest son, fell out of favour and lived in exile. he was bypassed for leadership in favour of his youngest half—brother. despite the suspicions and speculation, it is not yet clear who killed mr kim or why. a postmortem of the body has been completed but the results not yet made public. sarah corker, bbc news. our correspondent karishma vaswani
is in kuala lumpur, and earlier she sent this update on the investigation. the investigation has been extremely fluid, with information changing pretty much by the hour. but this is what we do know. this morning, we received a statement from the royal malaysian police, that said an indonesian woman, a woman carrying an indonesian passport, was arrested late last night. she was arrested alone and they didn't say where she was detained. what we understand is that she was identified from the closed—circuit camera footage taken from the scene of the crime. this is the second arrest in this investigation so far, but three days on from the death of the man believed to be kim jong—nam at kuala lumpur airport, there is still very little information about why he was killed or whether it was kim jong—nam at all. in fact, i'm standing right in front of the kuala lumpur hospital where the body was brought for a postmortem investigation. remember, malaysian police have said that until that
investigation is completed, they can't confirm the identity of the man who died at the airport on monday, or what caused the death. now we have been told that the postmortem has been completed but the results of that investigation have yet to be released. let's go live now to seoul in south korea, and our correspondent kevin kim. kevin, now three arrests, and more details emerging about potentially the story behind it, claims that in 2012, he had written to kimjong—un an, begging him to spare his life after a previous assassination attempt —— kim jong—un. the person detained was carrying an indonesian passport. the person detained was carrying an indones or passport. the person detained was carrying an indones or a assport. the person detained was carrying an indones or a liquid 't. the person detained was carrying an indones or a liquid laced cloth, all needle, or a liquid laced cloth, all aspects of this incident has kept the public absolutely mesmerised, even to the detail of what was printed on the shirt that the female
suspect was wearing, with the huge letters lol, an acronym for laughing out loud plastered on the front of the assailant‘s outfit. everyone is captivated by the story in its intrigue. thanks very much, kevin. ben is in the bbc newsroom with a summary of the rest of the days news. more than three million people could avoid getting colds and flu every year by taking vitamin d supplements according to new research. the study in the british medical journal calls for the vitamin to be added to food. but public health england says the evidence remains inconclusive. our health correspondent dominic hughes reports. this is what vitamin d deficiency can look like. softened bones bowing under the weight of the body. in children, it can cause rickets. now researchers say vitamin d can have other benefits apart from strengthening bones.
they argue that if everyone got enough vitamin d there would be a 10% reduction in the risk of respiratory illnesses like coughs, colds and flu. among those with the very lowest levels of vitamin d, the benefit is even greater — a 50% reduction. and across the whole uk population, that would equate to more than 3 million people avoiding a cold orflu each year. at present, people are being asked to take supplements in order to meet their vitamin d requirement over winter and spring, but it's expensive and a lot of people won't remember able to take or remember to take supplements daily. so a more effective strategy is to introduce food fortification into the food chain. sunlight on the skin is the best source of vitamin d but the increased use of sunscreen, and our weather, means exposure in the uk is limited. we are already advised to take vitamin d throughout the winter and spring months to boost our levels. it can also be found in some foods, like oily fish, eggs and cereals, and the us and finland add vitamin d
as a supplement to food. but some scientists here are not convinced there's enough evidence that vitamin d can prevent other illnesses to justify following suit. dominic hughes, bbc news. the foreign secretary borisjohnson will meet his american counterpart rex tillerson later today, for the first time since mr tillerson was confirmed as president trump's secretary of state. the two men will be attending a meeting of foreign ministers from the 620 countries in germany. the us state department has indicated that mr tillerson will try to provide a comforting message to countries made uneasy by the apparent changes in america's foreign policy positions. president trump has suffered another set—back in his efforts to finalise the line—up of his cabinet. his choice for labor secretary, andrew puzder, has withdrawn from the nomination process after several republican senators said they would not support him.
mr puzder has admitted that he once employed a housekeeper who wasn't legally allowed to work in the us. social care for elderly people is on the brink of collapse in some parts of england, according to the charity age uk. it says more than 50,000 people are now not receiving any help, despite struggling with essential daily tasks such as washing, eating and getting out of bed. our health correspondent sophie hutchinson reports. push — that's it. for ten years, elaine yates has cared for her husband. they managed to get some social care. but elaine, who runs a support group for carers, says it's much harder now. when michael first came into the system, it was a lot easier, because we had our own care manager who grew to know us and could help support us in what we needed. today, people coming into the system, they don't get that kind of support, they don't
get their own care manager. today's report from age uk says that since 2010, that has been a rise of 50% in the amount of elderly people who don't get the help they need. the charity's particularly concerned with the more than 50,000 people who struggle with three or more of these activities, and receive no support at all. while social care is run in different ways across the uk, cuts have meant councils in england have had to reduce the amount spent on social care. the councils in england have had to reduce the amount they spend on social care. and age uk says emergency funding is now needed to avert a complete collapse of services in some areas. we're seeing the beginnings of something that's going to get worse. that's because, if there is going to be any extra money for social care, it's not coming yet. and that's a real concern.
because every day we have an ageing population and more people over 85 in particular who need care. the government says it recognises the pressures on the system and is working on a sustainable solution. there's now a growing expectation a rescue package may be included in the budget next month. sophie hutchinson, bbc news. britain's most seniorjudge has criticised sections of the press for their coverage of the article 50 court ruling, which said parliament had to be consulted before the formal process for leaving the eu was triggered. the president of the supreme court, lord neuberger, also accused politicians of not being quick enough to defend thejudicial process. some of the things that were said risked undermining the judiciary, and unfairly undermining the judiciary. and therefore, undermining the rule of law. a mother and teenage son have been arrested after she allegedly faked her death in zanzibar in a bid to claim £1a0,000 in insurance money. police said the 45—year—old woman's son and his guardian claimed she had died in a car crash in east africa
and allegedly provided false documents. but instead she was living in canada. the insurance company was unable to verify the woman's death, refused to pay out on the policy and contacted police. the church of england says its bishops will take time to reflect after the ruling general synod voted down an important report about gay marriage. the clergy chose to ignore recommendations which suggested that a union should only be between a man and a woman. the bishops are now expected to produce a new report on the issue. hundreds of people demonstrated on the streets of paris last night to show support for a black youth worker who claims he was sexually assaulted by police earlier this month. there's been growing tension in some of the city's suburbs since the 22 year—old was arrested a fortnight ago. one police officer has been charged with rape, and three others with assault. president francois hollande has
called for calm and forjustice. a state of emergency has been declared in christchurch in new zealand as a huge wildfire continues to burn, forcing hundreds of people to flee their homes. the military has been deployed to help tackle the fire — investigations into what caused it are continuing. now we've heard of birds, or even drones, being a danger to planes, but now pilots may also have to look out for deer. pilots are taught to watch out for many dangers during take—off, birds, and drones as we said. but one flight in north carolina had another experience. this plane was taking off from charlotte in north carolina when it struck a deer on the runway and was forced to make an emergency landing. the surprise impact damaged one of the wings and caused a fuel leakage, which saw emergency services spraying foam on the plane as a precaution. no injuries were reported among those on board,
we suspect the deer was probably not so lucky. 0h, oh, dear. that is a summary of the latest bbc news, more from me later. i thought we might see the deer, but thankfully, we didn't. let me bring you some comments on the menopause. we will talk about it later. is it a taboo? is it difficult to talk about it if you are going through it? what have your experiences been? jane on facebook says not getting the right help from your local hospital on theseissuesis help from your local hospital on these issues is not help either. glad we can talk out about this because it is a nightmare to live with. lindsay on facebook, i cook the bed every night and had to get out to call it down or i never get back to sleep. insomnia is also a blight. let us know your experiences of the menopause and what have you found works to get through it? ki rsty found works to get through it? kirsty walker has made a documentary on the menopause. she willjoin us with other women talking about their experiences. hugh, nota
hugh, not a very good night for arsenal, i guess that puts it mildly? yes, that is putting it mildly. it is an embarrassment of epic proportions for arsene wenger and his team. former players, pundit, fans seem to be reaching a universal view it has been a good journey but the wheels have come off and it is time for a change at arsenal. they have been knocked out at the last 16 stage of the champions league in the last six seasons. champions league in the last six seasons. after a huge 5—1 defeat last night it looks set to be another early exit. amazingly sanchez‘s equaliser meant things we re sanchez‘s equaliser meant things were level at half—time, there was a brief glimmer of hope for the fans but they were torn apart and the capitulation compounds the pressure on the boss arsene wenger, he is underfire, a
on the boss arsene wenger, he is under fire, a promising on the boss arsene wenger, he is underfire, a promising title challenge faltered early on, no premier league title for 12 years and lack of character was put into stark contrast, against that of the bayern team. arsenal looking lost following an injury to their captain. the goalkeeper making a few great saves. that prevented things from being worse. it is the same old story for fa ns from being worse. it is the same old story for fans of the gunners and with the manager's contract coming to an end in a few months time the out calls will grow louder. after he spoke briefly to the media. the real problems we faced was after the third goal, ifelt, because we lost oui’ third goal, ifelt, because we lost our organisation, and we looked mentally veryjaded, our organisation, and we looked mentally very jaded, and our organisation, and we looked mentally veryjaded, and very vulnerable from that mentally veryjaded, and very vulne is le from that mentally veryjaded, and very vulne is highlighted: mentally veryjaded, and very vulne is highlighted when cosh any. which is highlighted when cosh any. they are a laughing stork, you have a manager who has lost his leadership skill, there is no ince
vincible streak in the team any more 01’ vincible streak in the team any more or the manager. that view was reflected in the newspapers, the sun say bay bye arsene. they are called spineless in the mail. the pressure grows on wenger and that sums it up. groundhog day for the arsenal fan, we will wait and see whether arsene wenger is given a new contract and more time at the club. we will see. we will. thank you. thank you. the menopause is something that happens to all women — so why don't we talk about it more? and what's the best way to deal with the side effects that so many women experience? a new documentary by newsnight presenter kirsty wark which airs tonight takes an unflinching look at everything to do with the menopause — and asks whether women have been needlessly denied hormone replacement therapy for years. there is something about the word
that has negative connotations of ages which in our youth obsessed culture can be debilitating. we are living longer, working longer and menopause is a feature of midlife, it is the start of a new chapter so why the taboo. it really is time for a change. so sadly, our ovaries are only designed to last a certain number of year, we produce egg cells up to the late 40, early 50s and by the age of 51 on average women are stopping having periods and the reason they stop is because we run out of egg cells but the complicated thing is we live for many years beyond that. so, when our ovaries are not,ing, the key hormone we stop producing is oestrogen, rather than it being period stops it is about the
consequences of lack of oestrogen. there are many aspects that women can be embarrassed to talk about. i thought it would be interesting to see if i could encourage them to open up on radio. cani open up on radio. can i ask how good was it for you? not great. no great. medically induced hysterectomy. hrt for three yea rs induced hysterectomy. hrt for three years and then came the big boom scare, and suddenly, hrt was taboo andi scare, and suddenly, hrt was taboo and i came off it, and actually, my symptoms have not really gone away in the last ten years. what about you? i don't seem to have been affected, sorry, because i know that i annoy people. that is great. you are not. virtually 10096 i annoy people. that is great. you are not. virtually 100% will experience some symptoms. are not. virtually 100% will experience some symptomslj are not. virtually 100% will experience some symptoms. i do stick my leg out the bed at night. hot flushes. that is a symptom, even if it is only one leg. it is only one
leg. it would affect your euro genital symptoms. dryness down below, loss of libido. look, people don't want to talk about that stuff with their doctors even. what you wa nt with their doctors even. what you want to hear from people. you get what you ant because we have lots of them. let us speak to nan. good morning. how are you this morning? 0k morning. how are you this morning? ok but i have had a horrible, horrible night with hot flushes. does it affect you every fight? every single night. what i would like to ask is, i am 78, am i too old to go back on to hrt? you may wa nt to old to go back on to hrt? you may want to consider other options which can be helpful to control hot flushes which we sometimes use for ladies who are not so suitable for hrt. the most common treatment for
menopausal symptoms is hormone replacement therapy. hrt. which helps replace the oestrogen lost when our ovaries stop producing eggs. it can be taken via patches or as a gel or tablets. but it has been heart to work out if it is wise to take it. this is due to the confusion ignited by the publication of the women's health initiative study in america, back in 2002. the study casts serious doubts on the safety of hrt. so 2002, hrt study. cancelled over cancer and stroke fear, the guardian hrt linked to breast cancer n the male it does more harm than good. new cancerfear for women taking hrt, then it is more harm than good. new cancerfear fo suggest taking hrt, then it is more harm than good. new cancerfear fo suggest it. ling hrt, then it is more harm than good. new cancerfear fo suggest it. it's hrt, then it is more harm than good. new cancerfear fo suggest it. it's a rt, then it is more harm than good. new cancerfear fo suggest it. it's a vicious n it is to suggest it. it's a vicious circle. yes. subsequent research suggested that the analysis of the data was flawed. that the findings
we re data was flawed. that the findings were overstated. but these more positive reappraisal received nothing like the same publicity as the original scare. more up—to—date researchers attempted to offer clarification of the risks involved. so let us look at this. back when she was in her 30sjennifer spawned sear was writing about the funny side of it. did you go hospital? yes and the gynaecologist. side of it. did you go hospital? yes and the gynaecologistlj side of it. did you go hospital? yes and the gynaecologist. i hate them, and the gynaecologist. i hate them, a man who can look you in the vagina but never in the eye. i used that about four times. times. patsy has ohs borrow sips. she has the lowest bone denty on record. she isjust bone denty on record. she is just gristle clinging on the bone powder. this is what happens when you have the menopause. no! no! no! good. you look at that no. i
know. little did i know it was all going to happen. yours was a particular kind of menopause, what happened? was, i got breast cancer, and soi happened? was, i got breast cancer, and so i wasn't menopausal, i was still having periods, but second year of chemotherapy, all your periods stop, and so you plunged into it. because you are so full of chemicals you have no idea. it is like the tiniest thing. compared to everything else. so by the time you have got over the chemicals and you are on tamoxifen which gets rid of your oestrogen, you can't tell the difference, you know know what is coming out of chemo and what is menopause, and it wasn't until i think about a year after, that i started to feel like, this isn't, this doesn't feel right. this feels different. it changes your metabolism, you energy levels, your
skin, your hair, everything. i mean it was quite astonishing. how did you deal with it? it was quite astonishing. how did you dealwith it? i don't it was quite astonishing. how did you deal with it? i don't know. it was quite astonishing. how did you dealwith it? i don't know. i drank! no... i had a large glass of champagne. and got on with it. i think you get on with it. one of -- what are your #1i78 toms now? mine are night sweats and bad sleep patterns. i have had a good, i am very good at sleeping. lucky you. i am very good at sleeping, but the first time i had a hot sweat, it did ta ke first time i had a hot sweat, it did take my by surprise, i kept going, what's that. what am i sitting on? ami what's that. what am i sitting on? am i sitting, it felt like sitting ona am i sitting, it felt like sitting on a radiator. i was looking round going is everyone else? no, they are not, they are not hot like me. do you feel different postmenopausele as to how you were before? is that tied up in the breast cancer? no, i don't really think about the breast cancer. but i think, yes, i think,
it happens and all of the things i used to make jokes about are so true. you know, just your place in the world and how you feel about yourself, your general feeling the world and how you feel about yourself, your generalfeeling of sexiness and libido, and, and... it is an indefinable something that you don't have any more. but for me i feel, i feel completely able to do what i want to do. in in years past women have often been written off after a certain age when work and child rearing are at an end. but in the early 21st century, when the average life expectancy for women is now 81, how can we best approach this next stage? later in the programme, we will be joined by kirstie and group of other
women to talk about their experiences and sheila has tweeted to say i am 72. i have night sweats every two hours every night. hence sleep disturbed every night. doctors responses have been unhelpful. laura says i had a pretty easy menopause, i read somewhere that sweet potato and so! i read somewhere that sweet potato and so i helped so maybe that did help. i did have hot flushes, sometimes was a bit dippy, finding any good was a nightmare and most women were on denial. knew people on hrt but whip they came have been unhelpful. laura says i had a pretty easy menopause, i read somewhere that sweet potato and so i helped so maybe that did help. i did have hot flushes, sometimes was a bit dippy, finding any good was a nightmare and most women were on denial. knew people on hrt but whip they came off had a menopause. "it makes life difficult. i have been suffering for four to five years. notjust hot flushes, brain delay, awful, continually malaysian police have arrested two more people in connection with the death of kim jong—nam, the half—brother of north korean leader kim jong—un. he died after apparently being attacked at the airport in the malaysian capital kuala lumpur earlier this week.
one of those arrested was a woman travelling on an indonesian passport. more than three million people could avoid getting colds and flu every year by taking vitamin d supplements according to new research. the study in the british medical journal calls for the vitamin to be added to food. but public health england says the evidence remains inconclusive. our health correspondent dominic hughes reports. we will bring you that report later. the foreign secretary borisjohnson will meet his american counterpart despite struggling with essential daily tasks such as washing, eating and getting out of bed. a mother and her teenage son have been arrested after she allegedly faked her death in zanzibar in an attempt to claim £140,000 in insurance money. police said the 45—year—old woman's son and his guardian claimed she had died in a car crash in east africa
and allegedly provided false documents. but instead, she was living in canada. the insurance company was unable to verify the woman's death, refused to pay out on the policy and contacted police. that's a summary of the latest news. more from me at 10am. let's catch up with the sport. arsenal's champions league hopes lie in tatters at the last 16 stagette again. it follows a 5—1 first leg flashing at bayern munich. afterwards, manager arsene wenger looking concerned, calling it a night men. real madrid beat napoli in the other game. craig lawton will miss the rest of the six nations rugby union after an ankle injury he picked up against france at the weekend. and it was a great day for
the 15—year—old jackson page at the welsh open snooker. he beat ashley, meeting the gcse student gets another couple more days off school. i will be backjust after 10am. britain's youngest ever lottery winner says she thought her million pound win would make her life ten times better. instead, she says, it's made it ten times worse. jane parks was just 17 and living with her mum in a two—bedroom flat in edinburgh when she scooped the euromillions prize 4 years ago. she says she's felt overwhelmed by the win and thinks her life would have been so much better without it. after winning in 2013, a documentary was made which followed her first year as a millionaire. here's an extract.
it could have been anybody. it could've been any of these people. but on 28thjuly, 2013, i was the lucky one. i was standing outside the shop, so i went back in. and then ijust asked for a lucky dip. it's lucky shop! me and none of my pals buy lottery tickets, so... that was my first time. ok, that's coming up, that one. congratulations, £1 million. are you joking me? no, i can see it here on the screen. you've won. then they wanted me to go to like new york and just go shopping. i would've gone mental. whereas we're like, let's put some money in the bank and invest it. no, iwould have it spent before thinking. i'm so bad. they wouldn't care about the future. they would be like, "right, let's just spend it while we're young". 16? i mean, 16?
and they're giving them £1 million? that's like giving somebody a gun, eh? she was sitting here, where i'm sitting now, crying. it was too much stress for her. money can't buy happiness, but it can buy a jet ski and have you ever seen someone being sad on a jet ski? money can't bring you, like, love and that. it can't buy you friends. like, true friends, it can't buy you true friends. it couldn't buy you a family. but it does bring a certain degree of happiness. i'm delighted to say that jane is
with us now. i know you were finding that uncomfortable, because that was a few years ago, and you were really young, 17, and handed £1 million. you say that money can't buy you happiness, but it can buy you a jet skiand happiness, but it can buy you a jet ski and who has been unhappy on a jet ski? did you feel differently about the whim at that stage? watching it back, ifeel completely different. at that stage, it was all about what you could suddenly have, what had opened up for you, i guess? you had this money, pretty much for whatever you wanted to get. looking at that, i thought my worries were gone. i thought it was going to be amazing. what did you spend the money on? i have got property, and i have been out there with some of it, buy a nice things for myself and my family. but there comes a point when you need to invest it as well.
you have taken sensible decisions, you still have something to show for it. do you know how much you have spent on things that do go away, but leave you with memories, things like holidays? i wouldn't speak about figures or anything. it is a bit tacky, but i am comfortable just now. anything. it is a bit tacky, but i am comfortablejust now. i uncomfortable. —— i am comfortable. i don't need a job or anything. but you are not happy, you feel the money hasn't made you happy, it has made you unhappy? i wouldn't say it has completely ruined my life, what i am trying to say is that, at times, i felt like i had ruined my life when i was 17. now, i think everyone gets days where they feel worse than on other days. my worst days are normally money situations or money related.
and sometimes, i get these feelings, and think! and sometimes, i get these feelings, and think i wish i had never even won it. for many, money related bad days are because they don't have enough of it, but for you it is because you have got to much, what is it? looking back, it was a ridiculous amount to have at such a young age. i had no guidance, iwasjust, like, wow, i was everywhere. obviously, as i have got older, it has been more structured. so i still have money problems, but not the same... explain what you mean about money problems. maybe other folks have money problems, rather than mine in particular, but like, so maybe,
so... ifa particular, but like, so maybe, so... if a friend or family particular, but like, so maybe, so... if a friend orfamily member is having a money difficulty, i can find it really difficult. every time someone in my family or my friends are having money difficulties, it is my position to say that i can sort you out, or is it... ? it is stressful. do i say, "sort yourself out"? do you think people expect you to help them out? that is the expectation. the expectation to say, here, i will sort you out. you said that you didn't have much support after the win. camelot said you had extensive support from them and a dedicated winner ‘s adviser visited you at home to pay out the price, arrange private banking, sort out publicity, and an independent financial legal team was set up to manage the money. when you are 17, i guess, do you actually listen to
advice? do you feel that you know who you are and what you want to do? ididn't who you are and what you want to do? i didn't understand what they were talking about. on numerous occasions, i said talking about. on numerous occasions, isaid i talking about. on numerous occasions, i said i didn't understand it, speaking in front of financial advisers about bonds, i saidi financial advisers about bonds, i said i didn't understand it. it is not about the support at the start, because it is fine to say they will help at the start, but further on, i'm just glad i had my family to keep me straight and narrow, otherwise i could see how easily... do you actually think you shouldn't have won the money? on days, when i have a good day, i wouldn't change anything. but there are days when, in my head, i say, i
wish i hadn't won it. what do you miss about your old life? i wish i didn't have the stress at such a young age and the pressure on me all the time. you could just give it all away? everyone has said that to me. what people don't understand is that ido what people don't understand is that i do have property, i don't have all this cash lying in my account that i spend every day in life. i am on a budget as well, and i do put money away. one day, i want a family, and someone in my family might need that or be dependent, do you know what i mean? i need to secure a future as well to secure my family as well. you mentioned the pressures you feel from people around you that are struggling, and you feel there is an obligation to help, and you struggle with that, how have your relationships with friends and families been affected ? to be fair, my friends and family have been really good. i've kept the same friends the whole time. my
family have been so supportive. i wouldn't have had it any other way, with my family members, because it could have gone horribly wrong. there will be people watching, thinking, why would you even ever have a bad day when you have got lots of money, what would you say to that? when i had first won, i was thinking that as well. i would never be upset, always having money, i was thinking that nothing could bring me down, because i could go shopping. but until i was in the situation, i can't even express to someone how young my imagination was at 17, and how immature i was, looking back, andi how immature i was, looking back, and i can't express to someone how it feels unless someone has been in that situation. the people i have spoken to, they have been in that situation and they agree with me. people at home struggling with money right now might feel cross at the
tv, saying they would love to have the problem of too much money. that's not actually my main point, because before i won the money, i was struggling to make ends meet, andi was struggling to make ends meet, and i was in the same situation as them, working in an officejob, to pay my mum. i was in the same environment. i am trying to say is now their is no help for young people coming into money —— there's no help. i just people coming into money —— there's no help. ijust think 17 is too young. you are really eloquently making the point about the fact that you are very young, a huge amount of money given in an environment where everybody around you is in a different boat. it puts you into quite a different category. and you said about people not really understanding, how difficult is that ina understanding, how difficult is that in a situation where you feel the people around you don't understand what you are experiencing and feeling?
it can be difficult. sometimes, you don't understand it. i have got to say to people sometimes, give them examples, and tell them to look from my perspective, put yourself in my shoes and think about it. sometimes i feel like shoes and think about it. sometimes ifeel like some shoes and think about it. sometimes i feel like some folks don't understand and they have got it easy. people can look at me and think staff. the stuff behind it all, it does cause stress. what would you have done if you hadn't had a lottery win? everybody asks me that. i think i would have worked in an office type ofjob, ora would have worked in an office type ofjob, or a retail work. would have worked in an office type ofjob, ora retailwork. my life would be completely different, anyway. i'm not sure. what do you think the rest of your life will be like? do you want a job?|j think the rest of your life will be like? do you want a job? i haven't
got anything against getting a job. when i did get a job recently, not recently, but within my win, i got a job and! recently, but within my win, i got a job and i got a backlash from it because some folks were saying i didn't deserve a job. folks can't get a job that need a job. folks we re get a job that need a job. folks were saying that i was dedicated. you are back living in the flat with your mum? yes. why did to you that? i moved out, in a previous relationship. i feel like i i moved out, in a previous relationship. ifeel like i am most settled with my mam. that is where my house is. where your heart is. thank you for coming in. parents of children with cystic fibrosis fined for taking their kids out of school during term time... the controversial practice now
being criticized by a charity and the parents who will have to pay the penalty. many people who struggle with essential daily tasks such as getting out of bed and eating are not getting the care they need, according to age uk. the charity says a crisis in social care provision means more than a million elderly and vulnerable people in england are not receiving the help they need. it's a familiar story — and the effects are well documented: more pressure on hospital beds and family members, struggling to cope. we keep hearing we're on the brink of a social care crisis, we can now speak to susan donnelly who only received the social care she was entitled to when she sent a legal letter to her local authority from a solicitor. chris maughn's father had to apply twice to get care despite being so ill he was incapacitated. lynne nobel, who applied for social care in 2015 and despite social workers and an ombudsman ruling in herfavour she should receive care, there still has been no action by her local authority. she's joined by her husband and carer michael. here to make sense of this all is the director of united for all ages, stephen burke. thank you all very much forjoining
us. lynn, i want to start can you, you applied for social care more than a year ago and you still haven't got it. what was your situation, why do you need the care? well! it. what was your situation, why do you need the care? well i have a number of conditions, i have ms, i have left sided cerebral palsy s i had head injuries from a road rafik accident when i was 22, and —— road traffic. i have a lot of physical problems and cognitive processing problems and cognitive processing problems as well. so i applied in 2015 and i am #12i8 waiting. what has the process being like?m 2015 and i am #12i8 waiting. what has the process being like? it has been horrendous, there there have been horrendous, there there have been delay, more delay, i have instigated so many stage one complaints and taken it through and iam complaints and taken it through and i am still waiting. it, you would
need a lot of stamina basically and need a lot of stamina basically and need to know your way round the system to be able to navigate it. and hopefully at the end of it get something, i am sure that many thousands of people are put off the whole process. as things stand you presumably still don't know if or when you might get help? no. i don't know. there is another complaint has gone into my local authority and i am waiting to hear from them. and michael, in the meantime, it puts you under pressure because you are lynn's career, what is it like? it's very difficult basically, you just have tojust keep plugging on, you know, plodding on basically, carrying on, because the, you never know when basically you are going to get help frommure local authority,
and you just have tojuggle things and you just have tojuggle things and do your best basically. chris, you had a big struggle trying to get funding for help for your 80—year—old dad. tell us more about him, what help he needed? dad's suffers with parkinson's disease, and we, he ended up in a rehab unit, and we, he ended up in a rehab unit, and that is where we came across continuing health care assessments. and the assessment was done by the nursing team, and the occupational therapist, and they basically told us asa therapist, and they basically told us as a family, your dad's not going to qualify, he doesn't meet the criteria but we will have a family meeting, and please feel free to say any objections you have got, in our assessments, findings, which when we did, we were basicallyjust told no,
no, that is not correct, your dad can do stuff for himself, and we had to make the, the very hard decision to make the, the very hard decision to put my dad placed into 24 hours residential care, and eu on your own, if you don't receive funding, you have to go and find a care home yourself. and that is, that is stressful, you don't know, you have to knock on doors, and find these ca re to knock on doors, and find these care home, which i did find a fantastic care home for my dad called the lilacs did you give up on the whole social care thing because you felt you weren't getting anywhere? yes, dad count come back to our house, because we knew we wouldn't be able to cope. we were told we could only have four visits a day. thanks chris, i want to bring in susan, because susan, you got social care but only after you turned to a lawyer for help, tell us
what happened with you. basically what happened with you. basically what happened, under legislation you are supposed to be assessed every year, for four year, i are supposed to be assessed every year, forfouryear, i kept complaining, i phoned up, still didn't get no joy. . co-plain because you hadn't had the annual assessment. that right. what was the situation in the meantime?” assessment. that right. what was the situation in the meantime? i was getting 18 hours care. you needed more. what did you need” getting 18 hours care. you needed more. what did you need i had further health issues that came up and it was an ongoing battle and i was struggling. for four years you needed more than 18 hours and you weren't getting the assessment, what happened? i approached a solicitor, and it was taken out of my hands then, then they decided to come and down, and it was one of the senior managers that came to to the assessment and my care package went up assessment and my care package went up from 18—and—a—half hours to 30. but what a lot of people don't
understand, i have actually made some notes, just to... if you don't mind we won't have time to go through them but in a nutshell? when people talk about a care package they don't realise that there is a catch hole in it, because they give you a timescale, you might have ten minutes to get someone in the shower. you know, you have health and safety issues the pressure is is put on the irkaer to make sure that you are safe, that there is no issues, and it, itjust doesn't work out like that a all, you know, how can you time if i... i hear what you are saying, let us bring in steven burke because he has the overall picture, how often is it happening that people need help and theyjust, either not been given assessments or the whole process is taking a frustratingly long time? we heard
some very real examples of the care crisis? the country, and as age uk say1.2 crisis? the country, and as age uk say 1.2 old emillion older people are missing out. the whole system is confeudsing, very complex, people don't know where to turn to for help. the local authorities are meant to provide assessments for people's needs, they are also meant to assess the needs of family carers as well. but many people struggle to get those basic rights, the basic assessments and it is a real postcode lottery. it depends on where you live and your local authority. underlying this it is about funding. we have a big shortfall in funding, big cuts in social care funding over the last six years, while demand is increasing. people are living longer. but it is, obviously there are two longer. but it is, obviously there a re two parts longer. but it is, obviously there are two parts of the same issue, it is different in that even if there was all the money in the world, to be funding it. if people are struggling to navigate a complex
system, they are still not getting help when they need it, whether the money is there or not. the system could be made easier, there are people to help you through it and you can approach some of the national charities like age uk or independence age or your local age uk can provide you with advice and information but we need to make it simpler, some of the carers charities help provide...” simpler, some of the carers charities help provide... i want to get to the bottom of why it is complex. it is necessarily complex because people, very careful assessments have to be made to work out who is eligible for what, and that takes some time, but where does the complexity come in that might be able to be stripped out, if that is case? we need to make it easier for people to approach their local authority, but the other part is local authorities are becoming more defensive and increasing the gate keeping because they don't have the resources to meet the needs of
people approaching them. so older people approaching them. so older people need to challenge that, their families need to challenge that, they needed a cats to help them challenge it and in some cases legal challenges. so are you saying that some authorities deliberately are using the complicated system to get out of having to pay for social care? yes, there is no question about that. local authorities should be providing assessments for eve ryo ne be providing assessments for everyone who approaches them and providing advice and information to them. lynn, you were nodding at that, i mean obviously we don't know what your situation is with your local authority but you are frustrated by what is happening for you. i want to read an e—mailfrom charles who say i am 86 and a career to my disabled wife. we have no living relatives. we have one good neighbour, we had a social worker who was lovely. she looked after frances when i was in hospital, visited me and took her own christmas dinner to traps is when i was in over one christmas, the fact, lynn, to you as well michael, the
fa ct lynn, to you as well michael, the fact you have got each other, the fa ct fact you have got each other, the fact that michael is there, do you feel that that, i mean it not right to say it would be, it is sort of gives you a safety net, does that sort of, do you think that might be a factor in when things are taking time, you know, there is somebody there who is helping you at least? well, michael has his own health issues which haven't been taken into consideration. and basically, i came out of hospital on 13th september, after a nine hour operation, and the day before, social services a p pa re ntly day before, social services apparently sent me a letter, saying that they had withdrawn my allocation to my social worker and allocation to my social worker and all my services had been refused and once i had recuperated, after this operation, which was neatly followed
bya operation, which was neatly followed by a bilateral pneumonia, i could apply again. and michael was working 24 hours round—the—clock, i couldn't do anything for myself. i couldn't etch access the bed for three weeks, michael had to sleep on a two seater settee and i on a three seater settee, purely because i couldn't get into the bed. i couldn't do anything, dress, anything. do you feel like you can carry on like this? well, no. no we can't, no. no. there is a limit. to what you can cope with. you were very tired. michael was very tired. working 24 hours, seven days a week is, is not good for anybody, especially not for somebody who is nearly 72 and has, asi somebody who is nearly 72 and has, as i say, his own health issues any way. sure, what will you do? well, we are still challenging the, the
system. and we are not going to give up, because there are a million people in our position. that are entitled to care and support package, but are currently not getting it. thank you all very much forjoining us thank you all very much forjoining us and telling us. thank you all very much forjoining us and telling us. the department of health told us that they recognise the pressures of an ageing population, adding: coming up: can vitamin d stave off colds? well, according to a new study, for three million of us it might. we'll find out more. let's get the latest weather update. carol. i can't see you carol. are
you there? you are not here? you are not missing much. good morning. good morning to you too. this morning what we have is a bit of cloud but the cloud already breaking up, some of us have started with some sunshine, some of us have yet to see it. we have some rain in scotland, strong winds here, rain in northern ireland, as we head on through the course of the afternoon and as we head through the evening and overnight that rain will push into wales, northern —— northern england. behind it for scotland and northern england a cold night. there will be frost round, patchy fog, and ahead of it, in southern england we will see some patchy fog but not as much as we thought this time yesterday. so that leads us into tomorrow. the fog will lift, then for northern and north east parts we will see sunshine, elsewhere we start off on a cloudy note but like today, the cloud will turn over, some of us
will see sunshine 5 out to the west we are going to see a few more showers, and despite the fact you can see temperatures between eight and 11 with some of us we could set 12 or13, and 11 with some of us we could set 12 or 13, possibly more in that mild trend continuing into the weekend and the early part of next hello, i'm joanna gosling. welcome back. police arrest a third person in connection with the apparent poisoning of kimjong—nam, half—brother of north korean leader, kimjong—un. and the youngest ever winner of euromillions has told this programme how it ruined her life. there's days when i feel like, i wish i hadn't. but there are days when i have a good day, like, i wouldn't change anything. but there's days where in my head, i say, i wish i hadn't won it. and you can see the full interview with jane parks on bbc.co.uk/victoria. and why is so hard to talk about the menopause? the first time i had a hot sweat, it did take me by surprise.
i kept going, "what's that, what am i sitting on?" it felt like sitting on a radiator. we'll also talk about hrt, and the contradictions around whether you should use it or not. here's ben in the bbc newsroom with a summary of today's news. morning, joanna. police in malysia have now arrested a total of three people in connection with the suspected poisoning of the north korean leader's half—brother. they president trump, meanwhile, has suffered another set—back in his efforts to finalise the line—up of his cabinet. his choice for labor secretary, andrew puzder, has withdrawn from the nomination process after several republican senators said they would not support him. mr puzder has admitted that he once employed a housekeeper who wasn't legally allowed to work in the us. social care for elderly people is on the brink of collapse in some parts of england,
according to the charity age uk. it says more than 50,000 people are now not receiving any help, despite struggling with daily tasks such as washing, eating the dead person's identity and relative information as well. thank you very much. now the menopause happens to every woman so why is it something that we talk about so little? with women living on average 30 years after it what's the best way to deal with this change to our bodies? a new documentary by kirsty wark who herself went through it after having a hysterectomy is on tonight. it takes an unflinching look at the menopause and asks if women who suffer side—effects have been needlessly denied hormone replacement therapy figures. the most common treatment for menopausal symptoms is hormone replacement therapy, hrt, it helps replace the oestrogen lost when ovaries stop producing eggs. it can be taken through patches, a gel, or tablets.
but it has been hard to work out if it is wise to take hrt. this is due to the confusion ignited by the publication of the women's health initiative study in america back in 2002. the study casts serious doubt on the safety of hrt. one study cancelled, says the guardian, hrt does more harm than good, in 2002, 2008, new cancer fear for women taking hrt, and then, hrt is safe for millions of women again. 1 million women could benefit from hrt. this is why it is all so confusing. i was using hrt tablets for three years after my
hysterectomy but i stopped suddenly like so many women because of this scare. so in 2002 the results of the women's health get study came out and it suggested that being on hrt hugely increased your chances of breast cancer, even if you had been taking it for a short periods are a lot of women stopped because of this risk. lots with no discussion with a health professional, they stopped cold turkey. people stopped coming to ask for hrt and gps became it's a vicious circle. circle. subsequent research suggested that the analysis of the data was flawed and that the findings were overstated but these more positive reappraisals received nothing like the same publicity as the original square. more up—to—date research has attempted to offer clarification of the risks involved.
the insiders guide to the menopause is on at 9.00 tonight for viewers in scotla nd is on at 9.00 tonight for viewers in scotland and for everyone on the iplayers. julie chandler who experienced severe menopause side effects, thank you all welcome. kirstie, like so many normal things that we go through, we don't actually foe that much about it until something happens to you and then you think why didn't i know? people will be experiencing symptoms not knowing they are symptoms of menopause. that is is right. the idea that something called low mood affects a lot of women who go to their gps and some
don't prescribe antidepressants but some do. that is not the treatment that you should be having. and it is the very fact we don't discuss it and we all go through it, usually round the age of 50. height of careers, and it is a taboo. i want everybody to say look we need to talk about it, deal with it and various treatments that women are entitled to. you say, people going through it at height of career now, no—one likes to expose something that look like a weakness and a vulnerability. absolutely. there is that perception. you know what i am not sure it would be the same if all men went through it. what do you think let us ask the man. what do you think? i have been through the menopause. and survived. we do have them but not quite the same. let us talk about your experiences. kirstie you had an instant menopause.” talk about your experiences. kirstie you had an instant menopause. i had to have a hysterectomy. my
co nsulta nt to have a hysterectomy. my consultant said you are having one, do you want to keep your ovaries and ovarian cancer is very much a hidden killers i had my kids, and i wasn't going to be having any more. i thought, no i am going, it is all going, it went, so instantly i went into menopause so the next morning, straight after i started taking hrt. and it worked? it did. i felt great. and it worked? it did. i felt great. and then, two things happened. there was the study, the big study in america but a friend of mine who was on hrt for ten years and had a precancerous breast lump and was told best to get off it. that makes you feel nervous and worried so i went cold turkey —— hurt i can. diane you had the ovarian cancer scare, so you had the hysterectomy, insta nt scare, so you had the hysterectomy, instant menopause, what was it like for you? pretty hideous, that is mainly because i hadn't been given
the information i needed. were you not given any warning about what would happen? i had my health service recollect meh and i left the hospital after two days but i wasn't given any information. i was told to see my gp in a few weeks' time, which i did but unfortunately my mum had had ovarian cancer, so i was aware there was a type of hrt, but it was not one that i was willing to take, because of the way it was made. it is animal derived. tha nkfully made. it is animal derived. thankfully it is quite restricted in its use now in the uk, but i didn't realise there was a second body identical type of hrt, and so for that reason, i chose to go and see a clinic and take some, try and take herbs and minerals which was never going to do it for somebody in my position who had had their ovaries removed but no, there was no information for me about that, so, eventually, when things got really
hideous, and a lot of it for me was emotional and mental, i hideous, and a lot of it for me was emotionaland mental, i ended hideous, and a lot of it for me was emotional and mental, i ended up essentially in a really deep, dark place, where i considered taking my own life, and at that point, my husband picked me up, took me to the doctors, which he had been trying to persuade me to do for ages but i was terrified because i thought they would put me on anti—depleasants. we nt would put me on anti—depleasants. went back to the doctor, she said you have a choice there is a second type of hrt, it is plant derived. it is body identical. why did it take so long? it takes thatening long, there are, i run an organisation now call menopause support, which supports women and i speak to women every week, of every day, who are struggling to get the right information or they are turning up at the surgery and the gp doesn't know what to tell them. julie, you also had early surgical menopause because of ovarian cancer, did it
feel like a taboo to you, when you suddenly were plunged into menopause? well, i had my ovaries out as a preventative because i was at high risk of cancer, it was a terrible shock for me in terms of the symptoms i had. i wasn't prepared for it. i didn't have information. i had to fight to get hrt. i was led to believe by my genetic councillor who supported me through the surgeries i would be put on hrt but my surgeon and gp said i had brca2 positive jeans. on hrt but my surgeon and gp said i had brca2 positivejeans. like some of your other —— genes. the symptoms we re of your other —— genes. the symptoms were unbelievable. there was no way i could function as a normal professional woman going about her life without some sort of help and having tried everything out there, like one of your guests in the studio, there was nothing else that was doing anything to help the symptoms, and i needed something serious that was going to help me
and finally i managed to get on the hrt which put everything back to normal again. is janice, i mean, hrt which put everything back to normal again. isjanice, i mean, it sounds like talking obviously to these women, and many others out there, that hrt is a no brainer but it has been through controversies. it has, but i agree, i think it is a no—brainerfor women, it has, but i agree, i think it is a no—brainer for women, and i it has, but i agree, i think it is a no—brainerforwomen, and i am it has, but i agree, i think it is a no—brainerfor women, and i am a clinician, i see women coming who are doing the dance of the desperate. the quality of life is shocking, particularly professional women, they are no functioning at the level they were before and hrt can transform their life, as well as that, they are getting protection against cardiovascular disease and it is looking after their bones, i think it's a no brainer that women who are having symptoms the and are feeling lousy should be going on to hormone replacement therapy. what kirstie said is right, that the scandal that it has happened against women because of the study that came out in 2002, we have this whole
generation of gps and doctors in training who will not prescribe hrt, they are terrified of it. fortu nately they are terrified of it. fortunately the pendulum is swinging back and women are getting more information, they are desperate and getting more educated. they have been deprived of hormone replacement therapy and i think is scandalous. the nice guidelines that came out in town 15 say every woman should have individual liced care from their gp. any woman needs to go to their gp and sit there and sit there until they get some positive advice. because women don't go because they don't think there is anything for them. you are not so convinced by hrt? i am convinced by hrt as a cure for some of the symptoms, but you are concerned about the side effects. women with serious symptoms need hrt. they should take it. but it does carry risk, if you look at
the epidemiology properly you can't say it protects against cardiovascular disease, because it doesn't. that aside though, whether you think it protects against something else or not, that is not a harm. what? you sayer owe questioning whether it protect against cardios vascular disease. questioning whether it protect against cardios vascular diseasem increases the risks of stroke and the risk of mi. by how much that is the risk of mi. by how much that is the thing you have said that and there are millions of woman who will say maybe i shouldn't have is it. it is about quality of life.” say maybe i shouldn't have is it. it is about quality of life. i agree with you. completely about quality of life. but what it says it is protects against that disease, it doesn't. it pro#1r50ids if taken at
the time of ovarian failure and you know that, the zudys the mean age was 63. i have ever in as a clinician started hrt in a woman at 63. you start at the time of menopause, if do you that you provide some protection against cardiovascular disease. we did a study, we took the submission who had done smallish trials, random miced to hrt or not and they were all menopausal, aged 50. they were taking hrt. if you pull the studies together of which there are 300 and we published this, there is a small increase in cardiovascular disease which is the same as the increase in cardiovascular disease the whi study showed. it st the case that it does not protect against cardiovascular disease at the very best. the big initial controversy was about risk, breast cancer risk, and that has
now, the guidance on that has been changed. yes because there is a strong vested interest to believe hrt is safe. you don't believe it? it causes breast cancer. no, no, no. you cannot say, you can't put out a statement that says that hrt causes breast cancer. it does not cause breast cancer. it does not cause breast cancer, you would know that better than i. you are talking about hrt causing breast cancer, i don't believe it is, o boos thety is a much bigger risk far for. it is not. lam much bigger risk far for. it is not. iaman much bigger risk far for. it is not. i am an academic, i have done research trials, and i think if you are a clinician, dealing with women then you have to appreciate improving quality of life, improving longevity and not scaremongering women about the risk.” longevity and not scaremongering women about the risk. i want to bring in some comments. we are
getting so many, ing bring in some comments. we are getting so many,ing about that point. i am an academic, i have done research trials, and i think if you are a clinician, dealing with women then you have to appreciate improving quality of life, improving longevity and not scaremongering women about the risk.” longevity and not scaremongering women about the risk. i want to bring in some comments. we are getting so many, ing bring in some comments. we are getting so many,ing about that point. hayley says "i am 42. i suffered premenopausal symptoms and doctors should provide nutritional advice. i changed all my foods and have no symptoms, i had no support from doctors or help. how much training in nutrition do doctors get.". jan said training in nutrition do doctors get.".jan saidi training in nutrition do doctors get.". jan said i had terrible flushes. i had other symptoms which have lessoned or gone. carol said i went through the menopause at 52. fortu nately went through the menopause at 52. fortunately i didn't suffer too badly with hot flush, i am 64. i have had no libido, i have not been able to have intercows because it is painful. karen says i was having 12-15 hot painful. karen says i was having 12—15 hot flushes in 24 hours. it woke me up through the night. i am taking natural pills, it has cut my hot flushes in half and i am
sleeping through the night. susan say i have been on hrt for 23 years. it is the only thing that works. i used to have hot flushes and sweats every half hour sometimes. people are saying, people will have different things that work. there is no silver bullet, nor are there identical symptoms. the one i didn't know about was joint pain. i interviewed a woman who was a great runner, and suddenly she had joint pain and she was only in her mid 405. she couldn't believe it. it was an early menopausal symptom. why aren't we told this? it is as if you aren't we told this? it is as if you are at school, you are taught about puberty and someone says is half way through your life you will experience different things, no—one is told and we are 51% of the population. and now, i mean, that is the thing, you have done this documentary, to get people talking about it. get
people thinking about it. why do you think it has taken so long? this is a male dominated world, i don't know. it is right. education in schools, universities and whatever, we don't talk enough about the menopause. that is is a terrible thing. do we self police a bit? the fear of revealing something about yourself? absolutely. and also the fact is that some women have these huge mood swings. senior colleagues of mine said a red mist offence and their family were mortified. it is so debilitating. we need to deal with these things as well. for those women and their families, these things as well. for those women and theirfamilies, and friends, it is very difficult. we need to talk about this stuff. and partners. i have spoken to men, they will say, i think my wife... i think my wife
is going mad. she's not going mad. menopausal symptoms are very often emotional. it is not flushes. that is the thing that particularly doctors find difficult to recognise. that is why so many women end up on antidepressants. for families, for couples, for relationships, libido changes, nobody wants to talk about a lack of sex drive, and that is a huge part of this puzzle. if we talked about it earlier, kids could help their mums. i didn't realise that my mother went through an early menopause at 46 when i was 16, what a combination that was, adolescent and menopause! laughter you are right. it is good to talk. it really is. we have got people talking at home,
getting in touch on it. thank you very much all of you. keep your thoughts coming in. loads of comments from you already, and we would love to hear more. still to come: parents of children with cystic fibrosis fined for taking their kids out of school during term time. we speak to one family and the charity offering to pay the penalty. also coming up: and we'll be talking emma freud, the scriptwriter and director of love actually, as the cast return for a one off special for comic relief. i cannot wait for that. we will find out what is happening with all our favourite characters. with the news, here's ben in the bbc newsroom. police in malaysia have arrested two more people in connection with the death of the half—brother of north korean leader king jong—un. they're reported to be a woman identified from cctv
footage, and her boyfriend. another woman was arrested yesterday. kim jong—nam was taken ill and later died, after apparently being attacked on monday while waiting for a flight in the malaysian capital kuala lumpur. the south korean government claims north korean agents were responsible. chinese state tv has just broadcast footage of one suspect in the investigation being driven away from a police station in kuala lumpur. the woman in the yellow top getting into the car is believed to be one of those arrested earlier today. however, this has not yet been verified. the foreign secretary borisjohnson will meet his american counterpart rex tillerson today, for the first time since mr tillerson was confirmed as president trump's secretary of state. the two men will be attending a meeting of foreign ministers from the g20 countries in germany. the us state department has indicated that mr tillerson will try to provide a comforting message to countries made uneasy by the apparent changes in america's
foreign policy positions. social care for elderly people is on the brink of collapse in some parts of england, according to the charity age uk. it says more than 50,000 people are now not receiving any help, despite struggling with daily tasks such as washing, eating and getting out of bed. the government says it recognises the pressures on the system and is working on a long term, sustainable solution. britain's most seniorjudge has criticised sections of the press for their coverage of the article 50 court ruling, which said parliament had to be consulted before the formal process for leaving the eu was triggered. the president of the supreme court, lord neuberger, also accused politicians of not being quick enough to defend thejudicial process. that's a summary of the latest news, join me for bbc newsroom live at 11 o'clock. here's some sport now with hugh.
arsenal will wait until the end of the season to make a decision on their manager arsene wenger. that follows a huge first leg thrashing at bayern munich, it finished 5—1 in the champions league. real madrid beat napoli 3—1 in their first leg, this is the pick of the goals. greg laidlaw will miss the rest of the six nations with an ankle injury, picked up in the defeat by france at the weekend. finally, mercedes have announced another technical director, james allison, formerly of cu ra re director, james allison, formerly of curare and renault, filling the role left by paddy lowe. more after 11am. the controversial practice of issuing fines to parents who take their children out of school to go on holiday during term time is being criticised by a charity who say that even the parents of children with serious illness like cystic fibrosis are being told they will have
to pay the penalties. we can speak now to hannah lindley, who was able to enjoy one last holiday with her sister iona before she sadly died of cystic fibrosis. the holiday was taken during term time, but no fine was issued in that case. laurie howard who runs a charity that gives grants for sufferers of cystic fibrosis to go on holiday with their families, nazleen ebrahim, who did face a fine when she took her son raihan on holiday, raihan also has cystic fibrosis. from nottingham, we can also speak to lewis wagner an assistant head teacher at a secondary school. thank you all forjoining us. tell us what happened, because you were fined for taking your son out of school during term time, why did you do it? he had cystic cypresses —— has. we have days when he is well enough to travel, and not. for the first couple of years of his life, he was not permitted to travel at all. so
we took permission from the doctor, took him, and he was well enough to travel. once we got the go—ahead from the doctors, we thought, that's fine. so we booked a flight four days prior to departing. we booked a ﬂight days prior to departing. we booked a flight for 10th of december 2015, so it was going to overlap the christmas holidays anyway, flying out for 14 days. we spoke to the teacher, and they said it is understandable, if all is well and he has the go—ahead from his doctor. we went on holiday, had an amazing time. we came back, received a letter through the post from the council to say we had been fined. at that point, i was shocked and confused. so i went to the school, and they said we would have two
approach the council. so we approached the council. —— have two approach. the council said it was the school's discretion to find us. it is, it is at the discretion of the school whether you are able to ta ke the school whether you are able to take your child out. what you are experiencing is what the families of other children have experience. but because your son has cystic fibrosis, is it financial or practical consideration? it is all aspects. the practical aspect and medical basis, the fact that he might not be well enough to travel, it is very difficult to be able to foresee what is going to happen, even in the following weeks. soi happen, even in the following weeks. so i can't plan a holiday ahead, even months in advance, because you
never know what is around the corner. hannah, i mentioned that your sister very sadly died of cystic fibrosis, but before she died, your family managed to go on a holiday, and the school was compassionate about that. yeah, the school were really supportive. they fully understood why it was so important that we went on holiday together as a family. i have got a little brother and a little sister, and for them, when we came out, that is when she became critically ill and died. that holiday is the last happy memory they have got with iona. the cystic fibrosis holiday fund helped us with grants to go, and they wouldn't have those happy memories without that. coming back and getting fired, and the stress of sorting that out, it would have been impossible to deal with that because iona was so critically ill that she nearly died when we got home. in that situation,
there needs to be leniency, because you can't help the circumstances. you can't make a change. the situation, as described, it is difficult to work out when you need to go, because of health considerations, is that why you went in terms time? why did you go in terms time? at that point, that was when iona was well. with cystic fibrosis, the issue you face, really, is it is a massive unknown. you can be completely fine one way, and within a couple of weeks, you can be dead. you have to seize the opportunity whilst you have got the opportunity, just do it. everything else has to be put on hold. let's bring in lewis wagner, you are assistant head at a secondary school, what do you think about term
time holidays? from the standpoint of education, we are primarily there to ensure that education happens, and that can only happen with good attendance by students. the policy is clear from the government regulations, and state that you had to apply to a head teacher if you wish to be considered for exceptional circumstances to take a child out of school. the school will make sure the policy is followed... on cystic fibrosis specifically and other serious conditions, should that a lwa ys serious conditions, should that always automatically be a special condition? and permission given? a case—by—case basis, you apply to the headteacher for the exceptional circumstances. i imagine, with cystic fibrosis being the condition it is, it is something that would be taken into consideration. it is nice to hear from the people you have there that the school was supportive. in one case, it was, but in the other, there was a fine. what do you
think about a fine? the fine was from the local authority, and i correct in saying? yeah. the school is not necessary for the fine, it is for ensuring attendance and unauthorised absence. i can't speak on the half of that local authority, unfortunately. you are with the cystic fibrosis holiday fund, how much parents of kids with cystic fibrosis fined for taking them out of school in term time? it feels like a bit of a postcode lottery. some councils issued tens of thousands of pounds of fines and councils that don't issue any fined at all. it isn't a problem we have experienced with everybody, but it isa experienced with everybody, but it is a problem that is coming up with more frequency. as we have started recently organising fully paid holidays, as opposed to the grants we have given in the past to families to help a four—day holiday, some of the fully paid holidays
given are in term time. more and more families have said to us, being able to take a fully paid for holiday of a lifetime because they might be fined on their return. it isa might be fined on their return. it is a slightly controversial position, putting out fully paid for holidays in term time, encouraging pa rents to holidays in term time, encouraging parents to break guidelines. we didn't think so. we thought with cystic fibrosis it would be pretty clear for children with cystic fibrosis it would be pretty clearfor children with a cystic fibrosis it would be pretty clear for children with a disease thatis clear for children with a disease that is ultimately terminal and never goes away. parents are spending hours and hours every day giving physiotherapy, and children are taking tens of different drugs every day to keep going. there is no breakfrom every day to keep going. there is no break from that. it didn't seem controversial to us as a charity to be able to support term time holidays to families that wanted them. but it seems that it is, in just a few cases, an issue. hannah? the amount of treatment you have got
to do, for something like cystic fibrosis, before iona died, she had that much medication, should we could not get it within a 24—hour period. you just want to get away from it all, some things where you can shut the door, possibly forget a little bit about it, and have a little bit about it, and have a little bit about it, and have a little bit of a break. what about the issue of damaging a child's education because the department of health points out there are 13 weeks of holiday across there are 13 weeks of holiday across the academic year, evidence shows that every day of school mist can affect a child's chances of achieving good gcses and it has a lasting effect on their life choices. can we foreso has the a future, it is very important education should be, it is everyone's parity but at the same time, the importance of
family, and to be loved and to have the support off each other and to have memories with each other, sort of balance it out. education is a priority, every parents' but the wellbeing and just the mental support that you can give to a child, that is fighting a constant battle on a daily basis where every morning, evening at night we are spending two to three hours on medication and nebulisers and physiotherapy equipment. it is very easy to sort of brush it as a stays tick and other children as a statistic with cystic fibrosis with the same brush and say, well, all children have to comply, but there is an umbrella policy and surely there should be some sort of compromise, as far as children that have these special circumstances. lewis wagner, when you are talking
about life chances in terms of education, and you hear about the life chances of these kids, struggling with very difficult conditions, and their families endiring that with them, can you even equate those two?” endiring that with them, can you even equate those two? i think one of the things about being a teacher. we are caring, it is a caring profession and we understand the difficulties that are associated with conditions like cystic fibrosis and we are very aware of the life style and we are very aware of the lifestyle that they may have to live asa lifestyle that they may have to live as a result of this, which is why as pa rt of as a result of this, which is why as part of the regulation, one of the things that is there that head teachers can grant these term time absences, they can make sure they are authorised rather than unauthorised, in exceptional circumstances. thank you all very much for coming in. thank you all very much for coming in. three million of us could stave off colds and flu each year if we took vitamin d supplements. that's according to new research published in the british medicaljournal. it studied 11,000 people and found that a daily dose of the sunshine vitamin can protect
against acute respiratory infections. but public health england said evidence on vitamin d is inconsistent and that this study does not provide sufficient evidence "to support recommending vitamin d for reducing the risk of respiratory tract infections." let's talk now to nutritionist jenny rosborough. and also to professor who is head of nutritional services at the university of surrey. thank you for joining us. tell us a bit more, first of all, jenny, about the benefits you think there may be on vitamin d? so this particular research is looking at the benefits ofa research is looking at the benefits of a supplementation of vitamin department on respiratory tract infections like cold or flu, but we know that the proven consistent evidence of vitamin d is much more
round bone and muscle health. that what our current recommendations are based on. should everyone take it? if there is a suggestion it helps, it won't cause you any harm? on in excess it will cause harm but not in the amounts found in supplementation. the recommendation is that even should take a supplement in the winter months and in autumn, because we get a lot of vitamin d from sunshine, obviously in the uk we don't get a lot that at this time of the year, and for those population groups at risk they should take them the whole year round, so people with darker skin or who aren't exposed to sunlight as much. susan, what do you think about this research? very much agree with your press conference speaker, it is a very nice piece of work, that has been done by a very reputable group, in london. it is a met a analysis,
it is pulling together randomised controlled trial, one of the interesting things with the study is it shows the greatest effect in those who have a vitamin d status less than 25 perlitre, that is what was. . . less than 25 perlitre, that is what was... sorry, put that in lay person's language then. that is kind of like the cut off point for very low vitamin d status, so what the study showed was the effect, it was greatest in those with this very low level of vitamin d status and was most ebeneficial in those who were taking a vitamin d supplement on a daily or weekly basis, rather than a large bolus dose, a very large amount taken at one time. ok. in terms of the best way to get vitamin d, if you want it is it's a
supplement, how else can you get it? apart from the sunlight and even thatis apart from the sunlight and even that is tricky, in the summer we are covering ourself in sun tan lotion, covering ourself in sun tan lotion, covering up because we are worried about skin cancer risk so supplementation is what is recommended. it is one of those vitamins we can't get easily from food. it is in oily fish and egg yolks, they might be food people don't consume. if you had an oily fish once a week. the recommendation is we have fish twice a week but thatis is we have fish twice a week but that is for different benefit, so for the general public, yes, eve ryo ne for the general public, yes, everyone really should have a supplement. it is fort anied if —— fortified in sup products. would you still need a supplement? the general recommendation is still that we should have this supplement. ok. why
is it, susan, that vitamin d has this effect? it seems? it is a very unusual nutrient in that our main source is not diet, it is uv b ex pore sure, so the best way of telling if you are in the right sunlight your shadow has to be shorter than your height. that is a useful tip to remember for people, so between really april and september, is when you would get your vitamin september, is when you would get yourvitamin d. in september, is when you would get your vitamin d. in terms of it, so we talk about it as a vitamin, it is not a vital we talk about it as a vitamin, it is nota vitalaiming we talk about it as a vitamin, it is not a vital aiming which is what the term vitamin means, it's a pro hormone so it is made in the body. what we know about vitamin d is that it has our cells in the body need vitamin dto it has our cells in the body need vitamin d to work, so a number of immune function cells need vitamin d to operate effectively. that is what
makes it so interesting as a nutrient to focus on. thank you both very much. thank you. love actually has become one of richard curtis's most favourite films. how did the tangled love lives of the characters play out. we are about to find out possibly because members of the cast are going to be reuniting for a short sequel ten minutes to raise money for comic relief. in a moment we will speak to emma freud but let us remind ourself of the original film. here is is a bit of the famous scene where the late alan rick man's character attempts to get a christmas present gift wrapped. man's character attempts to get a
christmas present gift wrapped. what's that? a cinnamon stick, sir. you won't regret it sir. wanna bet? we're delighted to be able to speak to emma freud, script editor on love actually and director of red nose day. are you on the set right now?” are you on the set right now? i am. i have turned the camera round you can't see where we are. do you mind turning it back round? no. quite busy here already. tell us who is there with you then? ok, liam niecen, the most after tracktive man in the world and slightly weirdly, younger looking now, than he was when we first did the film 13 years ago. he is gorgeous, and thomas sangster who was a 12—year—old boy who played his step—son, he is now a great big boy, he is 26. and one
other person i am not going to tell you who. ourfirst other person i am not going to tell you who. our first day's filming we are going to do the whole thing in five days, i think but this is day one, and it is going ok, we have done the first take of the first scene, back to the second take, i will grab richard in a moment so you can say hello to him, but it is all very exciting. please do grab him any time you like. we would love to talk to richard as well. can you tell us. richard! who else is going to be in it who have you said? i said liam and tom. kiera and andrew is in it and colin is in it and hugh and lucia, a lot of people. emma thompson? oddly, we are not quite sure, oddly. it is being done in a great rush, i think not, but i am now thinking again, we will wait and
see. bill is in it. will all of our burning questions be answered? no. 0k, burning questions be answered? no. ok, maybe not in ten minutes maybe you need to make a full sequel, would you do that? no. why not? the only reason this is happening is for red nose day, in britain, and also for red nose day in americaings, which is something we do now as well. so this is red nose day. and action! he has got a job to do. did anyone say no, when you approached everyone, what was their reaction, we re everyone, what was their reaction, were they excited to be doing it? alan rickman went very quiet. other than that, no, nobody amazingly, nobody said no. liam flew over yesterday, from america, and is going back tomorrow, so that is quite dedicated. no, it surprised
us, there is a lot of affection for the film. i know some people think it's the worst thing put on celluloid but i think there is a very warm feeling and it and the cast have enjoyed that over the yea rs i cast have enjoyed that over the years i imagine, because they all said yes, which was great. was it easy to write? no, it wasn't, i think i have never opinion more useful, the first draft he did was so bad, that i told him we absolutely shouldn't do it and to abort the plan and he rewrote it, so it has gone through a lot of pass, it has gone through a lot of pass, it is quite good now but very much in red nose day, the only point of it existing is in order to try and draw attention to red nose day and make money for our projects. that is the only push in life. we have tried to hook it into that, that felt like a crowbar at the beginning but it is sitting nicely now. that is good. can you give us some examples of
what he put in the first draft that was were so shocking? the same jokes again. he said they will be funny because they are older, and no, that isn't good enough, he did thejokes the first time, 30 years ago and they were find, you can't do it so, we had to move on, i had to develop ita we had to move on, i had to develop it a bit. there has to be progress rather than revisiting the old gag, that wasn't going to work. thank you so much. march 24th: red nose day. enjoy the filming. thank you. bbc newsroom live is coming up next. thank you for your company today. i will see you same time tomorrow, have a lovely afternoon. bye. very good morning to you, fair bit
of sunshine in the uk at the moment but we are starting to see the cloud increase from the west, here it comes off the atlantic and the rest of today. we will have more rain to northern ireland and some spots of rain showing up in parts of north—west england, north wales and that will push into the midlands. sunny to the south and east, scotla nd sunny to the south and east, scotland very blustery at the moment with frequent showers in the north and west, the breeze will ease down, the showers become more abundant and once you get the sunshine where ever you are a pleasant afternoon. temperatures could peak at 13, 14 in the south. a weather front will push southwards and eastwards tonight. it will keep temperatures up. patchy rain or drizzle. a touch of frost with clearer skies, frost and fog for scotland and north east england as we start friday. here the best of the sunshine on friday, some sunny spells towards the south—west, but a few showers later. in the sunshine
once again, it should feel pleasant. see you in half an hour. this is bbc news, and these are the top stories developing at 11.0k! the us secretary of state, rex tillerson, is to make his debut on the international stage with g20 leaders, where he's to have talks with the foreign secretary, borisjohnson. the president of the supreme court criticises sections of the media for its coverage of the judiciary during the article 50 court ruling. what they did was perfectly lawful but i think what some of the things said risked undermining the judiciary. two more people are arrested in connection with the airport posioning of kim jong—nam, the brother of north korean leader kim jong—un. officials confirm he was the victim. a state of emergency is declared in new zealand as fires encroach on christchurch. hundreds of homes have been evacuated as one pilot died