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today at five, the us pop star ariana grande will return to the uk on sunday for a benefit concert for the victims of the manchester bombing. she is topping a star—studded line—up including justin bieber, coldplay and katy perry. the 22 people who died in a bombing were attending a performance by ariana grande last week at the manchester arena. we'll have the latest on the announcement today. the other main stories today. jeremy corbyn stumbles over the cost of labour's free childcare plans, in an interview on the bbc‘s woman's hour. how much will it cost?” how much will it cost? i will give you the figure in a moment. you do not know it? you are logging into your ipad. you have announced a major policy and do not know how much it will cost? can i give you the figure in a minute? theresa may says with brexit negotiations due to start days after the election, only she is prepared to lead the uk out of the eu. nicola sturgeon launches
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the snp manifesto — calling for a second scottish independence referendum "at the end of the brexit process". rolf harris says he's "relieved" after being formally cleared of indecently assaulting three teenage girls. the mother of zookeeper rosa king — who was killed by a tiger — says she loved herjob and wouldn't have done anything else. the bbc understands that arsene wenger is to sign a new two—year contract with arsenal — a formal announcement is expected tomorrow. and back in the top flight after 45 years — huddersfield town will celebrate promotion to the premier league — with an open—top bus parade later. good afternoon. in the last hour it
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has been announced that the american singer ariana grande will return to manchester this weekend for a benefit concert would nearly two weeks after her gig was attacked in the city killing 22 people. she will bejoined for the the city killing 22 people. she will be joined for the temporary concert bya be joined for the temporary concert by a host of stars. it will take place on sunday at old trafford cricket ground to raise money for those who died or were injured just over a week ago in the manchester arena. our entertainment correspondent colin paterson is here. as a surprise announcement so soon after what happened last week. the speed is incredible. when ariana grande comes on stage at old trafford cricket ground that will be 13 days since the terrorist attack at her concert. we have been told she would start a european tour
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again in paris on the 7th ofjune and this is within two weeks and the line—up that has been put together, put together by the company to promote her tourist and also ariana grande herself has been involved in recruiting those acts. coldplay, the biggest band on the planet, justin bieber, the biggest solo act on the planet, katy perry, miley cyrus, fa ra planet, katy perry, miley cyrus, fara williams, whose hit was an international smash was dubbed sure, ta ke international smash was dubbed sure, take that, now abhorrent. one thing that has struck me is the fact that all these acts have played their own headline concerts at manchester arena. so these are acts who could picture where exactly the atrocities that happened and i'm sure that is one reason why they wanted to come to show solidarity with the people of manchester. it has to be one of the biggest benefit concert in a long time. not quite on the scale of
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live aid but very huge indeed. an enormous line—up. it is much in the live aid style. lasted just three hours. so these acts will only get to play two or three songs. one interesting thing from today is the fa ct interesting thing from today is the fact that ariana grande says she has invited every person who was at her concert, those who survived a contoured, to this concert. so the people who were at the show last monday have been invited to attend this. but has shades of what the eagles of death medal bid after their show at the bataclan, everyone will remember how they were also the victim of a terrorist attack and they came back to paris and played a gig and invited all the people who had been at the original show. for those people it was an incredibly moving occasion. not all of them felt able to go and i'm sure many people who were at the contoured, less tha n people who were at the contoured, less than two weeks between this
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concert, not all i'm sure will feel able to go. and the venue, old trafford cricket ground, that is where on saturday night the manchester band played to 50,000 people, showing that this arena was ready for a concert. and that was a very emotional concert. one of the highlights of that was when the lead singer came on with an acoustic guitarand sang singer came on with an acoustic guitar and sang the oasis classic, don't look back in anger. i'm sure many people will be hoping that perhaps noel gallagher will be invited to sing that song at this concert as well. many thanks for that. just a reminder that ariana grande will be returning to manchester this sunday, and this is a screenshot of the poster that she herself put out today, and what a
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mind that there will be. katy perry, coldplay. a huge line—up of acts all showing solidarity and all the money raised will be for the benefit of those people affected by that bombing a week ago. with just over a week to go to the general election, campaigning has resumed in earnest, after a pause because of the manchester attack. the labour leaderjeremy corbyn, focusing today on the issue of childcare, found himself in a bbc interview unable to provide the cost of a key pledge — extending free childcare to all two year olds. meanwhile theresa may, campaigning in the west midlands on brexit, attacked mr corbyn on nuclear weapons, the police, and dealing with terror — and said only she was ready and prepared for brexit negotiations. our political correspondent eleanor garnier reports. it's the home stretch, the last nine days, the final push so the parties are back to the game plans, there are core messages and forjeremy corbyn that means
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public services and pointing out how labour would aim to help families who are in work but are struggling. ours is a universal provision so that every child gets a place for 30 hours a week, from 2—4. more than a million children will benefit. and later on radio 4's woman's hourjeremy corbyn was asked for a bit of detail on this key policy. how much will it cost? i will give you a figure in the moment. you don't know it? you are logging into your ipad, you have announced a major policy and don't know how much it will cost? i will give you the exact figure in a moment. his confidence was called into question later on. i did not have exact figure and i apologise. but i
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do not apologise for what is in the manifesto. it was the night after they had been put through their paces. he was challenged on foreign policy and faced accusations of supporting ira sympathisers. theresa may was taken to task over cuts to policing, nhs funding and claims of a u—turn over a cap on costs for social care. but the core message she and the conservative want to get back to is brexit. strong and stable leadership is about having a plan to take into the brexit negotiations and we plan to take britain beyond those negotiations and build a stronger, fairer country for all. the lib dem leader has admitted he is not aiming for a government but is instead focused on holding others to account. theresa may called this election taking people for granted assuming she would win. the liberal democrats are determined to challenge because britain needs
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a strong opposition and a national health service which is properly funded, education that is protected and a future with europe where the british people have the final say. it is you, the voters, who will end up with the final say on who ends up here afterjune 8th. and in their last efforts to win you over in these final few days the parties will stick to the core messages, the safe zones, in the hope you will hand them the keys to number ten. in a moment will talk to vicki young who is following theresa may in wolverhampton — but first lets talk to leila nathoo who is in watford and has been following jeremy corbyn's campaign. this memory lapse thatjeremy corbyn had, recalling how much providing free childcare for two—year—old is going to cost, how much of a setback
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is this being seen as in the labour campaign? well this was supposed to bea campaign? well this was supposed to be a day when the labour party and conservatives were getting back to the core messages of the election campaign. labour wanting to focus on social policy and socialjustice, public services. this afternoon in watford they have been talking about combating race discrimination and faced discrimination. and this for jeremy corbyn is a distraction. not being up on the numbers on a key policy that they are promoting. it does not come across well. for the labour supporters this afternoon this was a trivial matter, they want to focus on the substance of the ma nifesto to focus on the substance of the manifesto and think this is an unnecessary attention focused on this trip up in that interview but it adds weight to the conservatives lines of attack, which showed the numbers do not add up and jeremy corbyn, his leadership is in question. just weeks ago we had by abbott the shadow home secretary
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also stumbling over her numbers on a key policy in her area on police numbers and salaries of police. so i think it leavesjeremy corbyn vulnerable to conservative attack lines. but he said he is confident that his message is getting through, he said there is something happening out there and i do not think he will see this as a setback at all. and talking about the party is returning to their core issues, the ones they believe they do the best on, that clearly is brexit for the conservatives and theresa may has been hammering at home today. she has, she does not want to talk about the manifesto u—turn on social care. she feels more comfortable talking about brexit and about leadership and wrapping those beans together. she's come to the west midlands were a majority of people voted to back uk leaving the eu and her message is that she's the only one who can deliver on that vote she also
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alongside that launched a pretty scathing attack onjeremy corbyn and his leadership, she said he was not fit or ready to govern, she said that he had poorjudgment and said he supported people who wanted to attack our country. something of course that he has completely denied. but by turning to brexit she feels that she can persuade former ukip voters and maybe those who a lwa ys ukip voters and maybe those who always voted labour but on this occasion she could persuade them perhaps to back her with a mantra that she would be time and again, that she would be time and again, that every vote for her and the conservatives will strengthen her negotiating hand. she is trying to get people to focus on choosing their next prime minister. thank you. the scottish national party has launched its manifesto for the general election — promising to reverse cuts in welfare and to boost public sector pay. speaking in perth, the party leader nicola sturgeon said scotland should have a say in its own future — and called for a second independence referendum "at the end of the brexit process". steven godden reports.
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if you hate a tory traitor, clap your hands... a manifesto launch in a city where the snp face one of their toughest challenges, political rivals outside the venue, inside nicola sturgeon set out her party's alternative on brexit, independence and austerity. the fact is, we cannot afford a tory government with a free hand to do whatever it likes. we must have strong voices, standing up for our interests and defending the values we hold dear. in policy terms, that includes freeing up an extra £118 billion to invest in public services, support for a uk—wide 50p tax rate, something the snp chose not to pursue in government at hollywood, a living wage climbing beyond £10 an hour, and action on welfare. so, let me be clear — snp mps will stand against all of the further planned cuts to social security. and we will do so because they
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punish the disabled and those who work hard to make ends meet. the manifesto also pledges to protect the pensions triple lock, calls for all immigration powers to be devolved and seeks a cross—party coalition to scrap trident. on brexit, snp success would, says nicola sturgeon, demand a seat at the negotiating table and reinforce a mandate for a second independence referendum. and that is why i believe so strongly that at the end of the brexit process, not now, but when the terms of the deal are known, scotland must have a choice about our future. a choice between following the uk down the brexit path or becoming an independent country. with nicola sturgeon predicting a conservative victory, this isn't a manifesto to govern. instead, its aim is to secure
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the votes which would maintain snp's dominance in scotland, an argument they say should bring influence on key areas of policy. the voters now have nine days to consider its contents before going to the polls. our assistant political editor norman smith is in perth. you would imagine the scottish independence referendum will feature quite prominently in this but now nicola sturgeon is talking about choices and a vote for the scottish people after the brexit process has finished. this was a very different ma nifesto finished. this was a very different manifesto insofar as traditionally the independence issue is front and centre, running through their ma nifesto, centre, running through their manifesto, is what motivates the snp and why people join the party. and in this manifesto the independence
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issue was almost relegated to the margins. it was pointed number ten in their ten points list of pledges. nicola sturgeon only really addressed the issue of independence towards the end of her speech and as you say when she did so she appeared to leave open the possibility that her timetable for a second independence referendum could just be shuffled back even further after no longer locking herself into a second referendum by the spring of 2019 but suggesting it may have to wait until the brexit process had been completed. we do not know when that will be but certainlyjust opening up the possibility that it could be pushed back even further. when you speak to snp folks they said they're not having a wobble about independence, they insist they already have the mandate to demand a second independence referendum, the scottish parliament already voted for that. but you sense that they
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have just pushed it back in part to enable both scottish voters deeply wa ry enable both scottish voters deeply wary of independence to give them a reason to vote for the snp without being frightened that that would not necessarily lead to a referendum campaign. and also i think they have been bruised by some of the criticism they faced from the other parties that they've taken their eye off the ball when it comes to domestic policy areas like schools and hospitals and have been too focused on the independence issue. but a very different kind of ma nifesto but a very different kind of manifesto from the snp this time around. dominated by fighting posterity rather than fighting the campaignfor posterity rather than fighting the campaign for independence. the snp talk about reversing benefits cuts, extra money for the nhs, ending the policy where parents can only claim credits for two children. much of this will be based on raising the
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top rate of tax of 50% uk wide. but how does the party out of the charge that it has been in powerfor several years now and has had tax—raising capabilities and cliff turned its back on posterity to a degree? it argues that it has where possible already turned its back on posterity in scotland but to some extent its hands are tied because decisions around benefits are westminster decisions. in terms of the money side of the equation they argued the position that we are now in and in the uk election, that these are changed circumstances, thatis these are changed circumstances, that is their argument. they also suggest they would not raise all the money they're proposing to invest just from that 50% top rate of tax but also they would rephrase the deficit reduction plan, bluntly taking longer to balance the books which gives them more space to spend
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public money on just trying to ease some of the pace of deficit reduction. so that is their argument for saying that now is an appropriate time to just ease off on posterity. thank you. and later at 5:30pm will put questions about the snp manifesto to stewart hosie, their economic spokesperson. you can get in touch on bbc ask this. tributes have been paid to a zoo—keeper who was attacked and killed by a tiger. rosa king — who was 33 — has been described as the "shining light" of hamerton zoo park in cambridgeshire. she died yesterday after a tiger entered the enclosure she was in. ben ando is there. we do a lot of work... rosa king had always loved animals. and according to those
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who knew her was passionate about their welfare and protection. but yesterday while she was doing the job she loved at hamerton zoo park one of the tigers in her care attacked and killed her. today friends and family paid tribute to the 33—year—old keeper who had an affinity for cheetahs but loved all the big cats. in a statement her mother andrea said... now, an investigation is underway. the police have said there are no suspicious circumstances, but zoo managers will want to know how a tiger got into the enclosure where she was working and in just a few seconds, turned a bank holiday into a tragedy. experts warn that whether in captivity or not, tigers are wild and potentially dangerous animals. under normal circumstances, there should be no reason for a keeper and a predator such as a tiger to be in the same enclosure at the same time.
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the only exception to that would be if the animal has been sedated so it can undergo a veterinary procedure or similar. but there should be no reason for a conscious animal, conscious predator, to be in the same space as a keeper. some animal welfare campaigners say keeping wild animals in captivity is just wrong. taking a child to a zoo for the first time, of course there will be the wow factor, why wouldn't there be when they see a tiger for the first time, an elephant for the first time? but after that, you have to ask yourself, what is the educational benefit of seeing that same animal in that same space doing the same thing day in and day out? four years ago another keeper was killed by a sumatran tiger at this zoo in cumbria. the park was later fined £250,000 health and safety breaches. zoo managers have described the death of rosa king
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as a freak accident, but alongside the shock and grief, there is a need to find out what went wrong and why. the zoo has not identified which particular tiger was involved in this but says the animal is unharmed and says it will update everyone on its investigation as soon as it possibly can. meanwhile, the police say they have closed their enquiry because they have determined there were no suspicious circumstances. they have passed on their findings to the local authority, huntingdonshire district council, who are responsible for licensing the zoo — and they may then determine whether there should be any issues or prosecution around health and safety matters. joining me now from near frome in somerset is the wildlife broadcaster, simon king an investigation is underway by hamerton zoo, can you hazard a guess as to how this could have happened?
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asi as to how this could have happened? as i think you have already heard, andi as i think you have already heard, and i should like first to extend my sympathies to the family and friends of rosa king who was sadly killed by the tiger. you just heard it is not something that happens normally and will only have occurred because of either a mechanicalfailure will only have occurred because of either a mechanical failure or else human error. when eleanor —— an animal such as a tiger is in captivity it is essential that the war between it and human beings is kept secure at all times. and rosa king would of course have known that a tragically something has gone wrong and fatally wrong. we heard in that piece that you alluded to, someone saying there is no reason why a someone saying there is no reason whyaz someone saying there is no reason whya z or someone saying there is no reason why a z or someone someone saying there is no reason why a z or someone working in a park like this and a predator should be
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in the same enclosure at the same time. if that happens, it is there anything, any fail—safe mechanism that can somehow deal with that? honestly, no. because the fail—safe is to prevent the contact in the first place and as has been stated before, this is a powerful predator and of course to instinct is to investigate anything within its landscape and particularly any living thing. and it will almost inevitably, unless it has been hand reared, which none of these animals are, or very few, it reared, which none of these animals are, orvery few, it will do reared, which none of these animals are, or very few, it will do so with power and force. and it does not ta ke power and force. and it does not take a great deal for a tiger who has phenomenal weapons of clause and powerful piece, to inflict fatal damage. do you think that perhaps there needs to be a reassessment of whether such large animals should be keptin whether such large animals should be kept in enclosures like this?|j
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whether such large animals should be kept in enclosures like this? i do andi kept in enclosures like this? i do and i thought so for many years and this is coming from someone whose childhood enthusiasm for the natural world was fuelled by going to zoos. that is true for many young people today. and they may turn out to be the conservationists of tomorrow. i think there are still a vital role played by zoological collections in engendering enthusiasm for the natural world and conservation but i think we have to carefully assess which creatures are kept under which conditions in which collections. and of course something like a tiger is a spectacular animal to see and perhaps the best place to see creatures like that other than the wild, and were not all lucky enough to travel to india or other parts where we may see that dwindling population in the wild, it is in some form of collection. but perhaps only in large ranging safari parks where human beings are in the safety of their vehicle rather than the
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cats or other creatures being kept within an enclosure that is anything other than huge. thank you. shares in the owner of british airways, iag, fell by almost three per cent this morning after the computer failure on saturday which disrupted the flights of tens of thousands of passengers around the world. the fall wiped about 400 million pounds off the company's market value. ba says it is operating a full flight schedule today, but warned that it "may take some time" to reunite passengers with their bags. bert craven designed it systems for easyjet for seven years and now advises airlines around the world. bert is here with me now. can you guess how this complete disaster happened ? can you guess how this complete disaster happened? we can hazard a guess and the industry is rife with speculation today. the systems that
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ba to process her passengers at heathrow are provided by a company called amadeus and they provide passenger something to around 40% of the world passengers. those systems we re the world passengers. those systems were running fine at the weekend so clearly it was a localised event that took out the ability of british airways agent in heathrow to access the system. either a combination network infrastructure or connectivity middleware and british airways have stated that they may not be the root cause but the trigger event certainly was a power surge. but there's got to be a back—up? absolutely, you need to ask, power surges are normal, there are quite regular events and industrial strength airline systems should be completely shielded from power surges. they said that there was a back—up system but that was also inoperable. so a number of possibilities, the first being that the same localised event that took the same localised event that took the primary system also took out secondary system so then you have
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design questions to be asked about just how good the back—up system was. or the back—up system was already in the state of failure unnoticed at the point when the primary failed and so when they invoked failover to the back—up it did not work. also questions must be a nswered did not work. also questions must be answered about the length of time it took to recover these systems. this is the third in a sequence of failures, the first was injune is the third in a sequence of failures, the first was in june last yearfor around failures, the first was in june last year for around two hours and failures, the first was in june last yearfor around two hours and again on septemberfor two yearfor around two hours and again on september for two hours and then a failure now for three days. there had been suggestions that cost—cutting might be part of this, outsourcing it to india. do you think that could have played a part? it is always possible, and almost impossible to rule that out entirely. if you spend more time and money in investing in systems you get more reliable systems but there isa get more reliable systems but there is a law of diminishing returns on investment and resilience and i think we will have to wait until
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british airways have done what i am sure will be a very thorough forensic root cause analysis of this to understand the true underlying cause. there are many people who are disgruntled with british airways and their management, employees and passengers alike so i think there is a degree of schadenfreude today and finger wagging and i told you so. but we should notjump to conclusions that this is purely cost. my experience of the failure of mission—critical systems is there is rarely one simple cause. it will bea is rarely one simple cause. it will be a whole chain of decisions that we re be a whole chain of decisions that were made, probably over a long period of time, that ended up with this perfect storm at the weekend. but the tests of back—up systems, regularly, you do not necessarily need to be experienced would've thought to make it clear that that has to be in order to make sure that your systems are fit for purpose if the main system goes down, so the back—up systems should be regularly
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checked anyway? absolutely and there are many ways to provide redundancy in systems like this. you can run the systems active or hot, you can do regularfailover is the systems active or hot, you can do regular failover is from the systems active or hot, you can do regularfailover is from one system to the other. which will co nsta ntly system to the other. which will constantly keep you appraised of the functioning of both the primary and secondary system. but these kind of tests carried their own risks in that you conduct one you engage with the risk that it will fail and cause you problems in the airport. and expensive and again you do not want to immediately go straight to the cost issue but the money spent on those kinds of tests is the easiest money to cut when you're looking to cut costs because there is no immediate customer impact. time for a look at the weather news now, tomasz schafernaker has all of the details... it's an ok day across the details... it's an ok day across the uk, not gloriously sunny or
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especially wet. but overnight, skies will clear across northern parts of the country. a beautiful day on the way tomorrow. this is the satellite picture from earlier, you can see this curl of cloud, this weather front this curl of cloud, this weather fro nt m oves this curl of cloud, this weather front moves across the north bringing wet weather. spots of rain, skies are clearing across northern areas and we are in for a beautiful evening. as the sun sets, some glorious weather. it may stay cloudy across with mr and mark on the coast but the mildest weather is 1a degrees in the north, and tomorrow, many of us wake up to clear blue skies, a beautiful start of the day. in the south, cloudy in the morning. temperatures tomorrow are decent, 23 in london and not far off 23 degrees in scotland. this is bbc news at 5 —
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the headlines: the us pop star ariana grande will return to the uk on sunday, for a benefit concert for the victims of the manchester bombing. she's topping a star studded line—up, including justin beiber, coldplay and katy perry. the 22 people who died in the bombing were attending ariana grande's performance in manchester last week. jeremy corbyn stumbles over the cost of labour's free childcare plans — in an interview with the bbc‘s woman's hour. theresa may says with brexit negotiations due to start nicola sturgeon launches the snp manifesto, calling for a second scottish independence referendum "at the end of the brexit process". rolf harris says he's "relieved" after being formally cleared of indecently assaulting three teenage girls. prosecutors ruled out a further retrial for harris,
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who denied the charges. let's cross to the bbc sport centre to join hugh. good afternoon. the bbc has learned that arsene wenger will be staying at arsenal — after agreeing a new two year contract. it follows a meeting with majority owner stan kroenke yesterday — where his future was to be dicussed. it's understood the 67—year—old will remain manager until at least 2019 — extending his tenure into a 23rd year. the bbc‘s sports editor dan roanjoined me earlier. i think it will divide opinion among arsenal's many supporters. let's not forget it wasn't long ago that arsenal were being drubbed10—2 on aggregate by bayern munich in the champions league and they finished fifth in the premier league, meaning they miss out on champions league football which is crucial to any big club for the first time in two decades. the pressure on arsene wenger in the last couple of months
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has reached unprecedented levels. there have been protests by fans and planes flown over demanding that he goes after all these years in charge. but despite that towards the end of the season, they enjoyed something of a resurgence and they won the fa cup against all odds. many thought they would be beaten soundly by chelsea but they prevailed on saturday winning 2—1. maybe the final reckoning edging things in favour of him. but he always retained the support of the man in charge, american billionaire stan kroenke, who effectively owns arsenal. yesterday they met and we understand it was at that point things were finally done. i think the board were told in effect that would be the final decision. they did not have much say. it is the way arsenal is run. effectively a dictatorship, kroenke is in control. wenger has been there so long now it is difficult to imagine a life without him and once it was decided he wanted to stay despite the opposition that
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has hurt him in recent months, the decision was made. riyad mahrez has informed leicester city he wants to leave during the upcoming transfer window, saying he's ‘fiercely ambitious‘ and ‘now is the time to move on.‘ the 26—year—old joined leicester from french club le harve in 2014. helping them to a championship title in his first season. he won the premier league with the club in 2016, and was named pfa player of the year — in a statement he said he agreed with the chairman that he would stay at the club, as they finished 12th in the league and reached the champions league quarterfinals. the algerian says he hopes foxes fans ‘will understand and respect his decision." gareth southgate says he didn't speak to captain wayne rooney before leaving him out of the squad to face scotland and france next month. england's all—time leading goal—scorer rooney only started 15 league games for manchester united this past season. the 31—year—old was left out of the previous squad in march due to injury.
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in the end, there's only so many times that you can speak about the situation. we have been very clear. i'm very conscious that again, is the first question that you ask me. i am conscious from his point of view that it is big story when you do not select him. i want to do that in the right way, equally. when we have had previous conversations there is no point revisiting those at this stage. for the third year in a row british number onejohanna konta has been knocked out in the first round of the french open. she suffered a shock defeat to chinese taipei's su—wei hsieh, beaten in three sets by the world number 109. andy murray is through to the second round of the french open
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after beating andre kuznetzov by three sets to one. the world number one reached the final last year but has been on a run of poorform — he did though, take the first set against the unseeded russian 6—4. but murray's attention seemed to wander in the next set. his serve was broken three times and kuznetsov won the set six games to 4. the scot pulled himself together to gallop through the third set 6—2, and breezed through the fourth 6—0 to move into the second round where he'll face martin klizan of slovakia. kyle edmund is also true to the next round. now, it is time for ask this on bbc news... there's just over a week to go to polling day, and throughout the election campaign we've been asking you to get in touch and put your questions to politicians from the main parties. over the last couple of week's we've heard from the conservatives and liberal democrats. well, today, on the day that they launch their manifesto, i'm joined by the snp's economic spokesperson — stewart hosie. it is good to see you, thank you for
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being with us. and fielding some of the questions from some of our work he was. we may as well get into it. andrew walker asks the snp propose an additional uk expenditure of £118 billion on public services... how would the uk government fund this? what we would do, in essence, is re—profile deficit consolidation. instead of doing what the tories are doing, which is targeting a surplus of £30 billion per year by the end of £30 billion per year by the end of this parliament, we would seek the current account to be in balance. we want to see the debt fall, and see long—term deficit and costs returned to the precrisis trend of about 2.3% of gdp. we only one to borrow in future for genuine investment. making those changes breeze up £118 billion. in essence,
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it isa breeze up £118 billion. in essence, it is a sensible thing to do. as you and the viewers know, the tories have said many targets to see debt falls, see the current account going to be black. none of these targets have been met. this model is credible and responsible, and we can deliver the cash required to fund a public service, invest in the economy, and with substantial money set aside to mitigate the potential damage of brexit. one man's re—profiling of consolidation is another man's pulling off, paying the bills and putting off balancing the bills and putting off balancing the books. pushing the burden down the books. pushing the burden down the line for future generations. some would think it is completely out of order and you should be balancing the books? we plan to balance the books, that is the point. the current account would be in balance by the end of this parliament. the point i make is that
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while the tories in particular promise to do this on a number of occasions since 2010, they have failed. the worst thing you can do in terms of financial markets is have a fiscal policy wish you do not meet. the second thing that i would say is that failure has been paid for on the backs of the poor. austerity measures are bitter, eating, and chewed into household incomes. but they still did not meet targets. it leads to a lack of credibility at the point where the markers would not believe the tories any longer. let's go on to tommy's question in five. he says the snp wa nt to question in five. he says the snp want to control scottish immigration, how would they achieve this? most immigrants want to come to england, would scotland have a border to stop them escaping? fife. no, we had a situation in the past where we had an initiative where people who studied in scotland could work for a number of years after
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they graduated which worked well. i think there are other models in canada where provinces can control immigration to a limited extent. it works perfectly well to manage your own migration. their sensible indeed. we are lucky in scotland, the population has began to rise again to 5.5 million or so. we are not fill up. we want to put to bring skills and talents that the economy needs. there is no reason whatsoever why scotland, an attractive destination, cannot be able to manage its own migration policy. you say after brexit, there needs to be as part of the deal a regional look at migration so that scotland benefits, as far as you are concerned? the brexit argument is very strong. we don't want to see an end to the free movement of people, as there are millions of uk citizens working and living happily in the eu. we want the free movement of
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people to be maintained but the position of the tory party is they wa nt position of the tory party is they want that to end. we do not want that to end in scotland, not least because 5% or so of public sector workers come from overseas. we do not want to lose vital workers like that. a second point is that the tories talk about net migration targets. see this set of 50,000 people. if 50,000 uk pensioners came home from spain, that means we would not let another person in. not a co nsulta nt not let another person in. not a consultant surgeon or it specialist or engineer. these figures from the tories are ideas and are absolutely bonkers. mary in edinburgh asks, could an independent scotland trade with both the rest of the uk after brexit, and be you? and which sectors of the economy for the most opportunities for an independent scotland? the answer is yes, of course they could. if you listen to
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the brexiteers, they would argue rather sensibly that trade with the eu and republic of ireland should continue. we argue that of course one could do that. arrangements can be put in place to ensure 50 billion of trade from england to scotland continues while scotland remains in the single market, trading with a single market within the year for 500 million people. —— within the eu. we put that to the uk government that that should be included in the negotiating position. it may be difficult and may end up not being achievable but they should have tried to negotiate. we still want to be in tried to negotiate. we still want to beina tried to negotiate. we still want to be in a position where we have maximum access to the single market in europe while we keep 100 billion or so of trade in both directions between scotland and the rest of the uk. louise has an interesting question, quite a few have asked this, would the snp consider a
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coalition with labour? this would come as no surprise to viewers. if there was a position to lock the tories out of power across the uk, because the numbers stacked up, of course we would try to do that. tory economic and social policy is extremely damaging to ordinary people and economic growth. i suspect it would not be a form of coalition but a far looser arrangement. but the principle of trying to have some kind of progressive non—tory government is very attractive for the people of government and many outside of scotland. jeremy corbyn has already said no chance! this was the position the labour party took in the last election and it did not serve them well. the idea that any labour leader who wanted to be prime minister would give up the chance of being prime minister, give up the chance of improving people's lives, usherin chance of improving people's lives, usher in a tory government simply because he did not want to speak to
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the snp, they would not be lasting long as the labour party leader. another question now, does the snp plan to have referendum about independence until they actually win one? no! laughter we were clear in the last referendum, that was the result and we came to terms with it on the 19th of september. what we said was we could not have another referendum u nless could not have another referendum unless there was a specific qualitative change in circumstances. we specified it incredibly clearly in the scottish parliament ma nifesto. in the scottish parliament manifesto. a hard story brexit against the wishes of the scottish people, that is precisely what we got. 62% of scotland voted to remain. the uk as a whole voted to leave. that is why we argued our compromised position should have been part of the uk government's negotiating ask. but we have a mandate for another referendum. the
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key point is, you don't have it at the drop of a hat. the first minister has been incredibly clear. we would not hold that until the terms of brexit are clear themselves. the backend of 2018, early 2019. the timescale theresa may has set. there will be won, we have a mandate to deliver and it cannot be until the terms of brexit are clear. then the scottish people can choose to go with brexit or perhaps take a different path. that was from hank. and finally, this is from james mchale. how can the snp be an anti—austerity party when in government you have cut education funding by more than £1 billion over five years? we are an anti—austerities party. we made changes to tax to bring in more revenue and put money into the health service, we have record funding and record high results of 160 and thousands kits at college.
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we have a record number of young scots at university with 30,000 apprenticeships. we are doing well. but there has been a 2.9 billion cut to the scottish gunmen's block grant driven by uk austerity. —— government's block grant. in the ma nifesto we government's block grant. in the manifesto we launched today, i am hoping and i am confident in a large number of snp mps, that we can do just that. stuart, thank you for fielding these questions from our viewers. no problem, thank you. senior representatives from the main political parties in wales will take part in the bbc wales leaders' debate this evening. the build up to the debate has dominated by discussions of who will be representing the conservatives — with neither welsh conservative leader andrew rt davies nor welsh secretary alun cairns taking part. the party is due to be represented by represented by their wales education spokesman darren millar.
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he'll be joined by labour's carwyn jones, plaid cymru's leanne wood, lib dem mark williams and ukip's neil hamilton. lets cross to cardiff now and talk to my colleague huw edwards — who is chairing tonight's debate. thank you very much, clive. as you pointed out, no shortage of controversy pointed out, no shortage of co ntrove rsy ever pointed out, no shortage of controversy ever in welsh politics. we are here in cardiff, in a stadium which is a famous cricket ground. we are in the indoor sports hall where glamorgan cricket do some of their training. podiums are ready and the leaders will be here later. some controversy about who is representing the conservatives. it is not the secretary of state for wales, alun cairns, or andrew rt davies, it is darren miller, one of their assembly members and spokesman. even today, there is a sense of tension within conservative ranks. with mr davies expressing
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surprise, he says, that alun cairns is not turning up here today. i should make clear, and i will tell the audience later on, that what the bbc has done is invite parties to nominate their preferred candidate to speak tonight, which is why mr miller is coming on behalf of the conservatives. joining other leadership figures. 220 people in this audience, we have invited people from all over wales and they represent parts of wales, and lots of strands of opinion as well. we had quite a difficultjob, it is fairto had quite a difficultjob, it is fair to say, selecting questions. one thing! fair to say, selecting questions. one thing i would point to is it is still a battle in some ways, underlining to people where responsibility lies on some of these big issues. with health, health is the responsibility of the welsh government in cardiff. not the responsibility of westminster. we are trying to steer away from some topics where, for example, people like carwyn jones do topics where, for example, people like carwynjones do not have
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ultimate say. not an easy thing to do as ultimate say. not an easy thing to doasa ultimate say. not an easy thing to do as a lot of people would argue that the impact of the brexit process would impact the economy, which then impacts public spending which then impacts public spending which then impacts the health service. it isn't easy to separate some of these things but we are going to be discussing security in the light of the dreadful events in manchester, we've discussed brexit and its impact on the welsh economy. evalds of poverty in wales are shockingly poor, some of those regions receiving a lot of money from the eu because they are so impoverished would be discussing what happens to them after brexit and looking ahead maybe ten years, if possible, or if that is even wise, asking what kind of devolution picture that would look like in ten yea rs. picture that would look like in ten years. relevant not only to wales but other parts of the uk as well. that is where we are. at 8:30pm tonight there will be five of the party figures here. joining me in cardiff. to remind you, our coverage sta rts
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cardiff. to remind you, our coverage starts at 8:30pm on bbc news channel, and live on bbc one wales. with that in mind, we are looking forward to an energetic debate on a lot of the debate is relevant not only to wales but the rest of the uk as well. back to you, clive. studio: it should be fascinating, huw edwards, thank you. back to the election now. the sdlp leader colum eastwood has launched his party's manifesto with a strong focus on brexit. he said the nationalist party would stand up "against borders, division and cruel crippling cuts." we need strong voices, taking a stand against the tories at heart of the action. our pledge is that the sdlp will always stand up for your interests, will always be in your corner. huddersfield town are celebrating their promotion to the richest league in the world — the premier league — with an open—top bus parade. the west yorkshire team beat reading on penalties at wembley yesterday,
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sealing their return to the top division of english football for the first time in 45 years. patrick gearey reports: let's go live to huddersfield and speak to tanya arnold. what an atmosphere!? you picked the right moment. the music has kicked in, the players have arrived on the open top bus. they will have a right old party here in huddersfield. this is a little bit like leicester city winning the premier league last year. a fairy tale of football. these guys finished 19th in the championship last year, with a fifth of the budget of the likes of newcastle united, but they made it to be premier league, which is worth upwards of around £200 million. and for this town, it puts them on a huge global map. the premier league is the biggest league in the world. these guys are the unsung heroes,
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but it has been the revolution of david wagner, their manager, who changed the culture and philosophy of this club. down to find details by the ringing them into train at 745 in the evening if that is the kick—off for their next match. they did an amazingjob kick—off for their next match. they did an amazing job at wembley, the most tense of ways to get into the premier league but they are in the top flight. welcoming the likes of chelsea, arsenal, manchester united and manchester city to huddersfield next season. what a promotion for those at huddersfield town. tanya arnold reporting live for us. it should be a great open top parade there, is the weather going to be any good? tomasz with the details... mixed across the country. not a bad day but we had to use our umbrellas. this is quite ominous looking. not many nasty spells of whether, like
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we had with that lightning storm a couple of days ago but the weather is improving. northern parts of the country, skies clear after some earlier rain that we had. this weather front and curl of cloud with low pressure. this weather front moves through northern ireland. the weather has been improving across scotland, and through tonight, clearing skies across most of the uk. south and the south—east and the south west stay cloudy with mr round the coast. milder here at 14 degrees. it is fresher at eight or 9 degrees. it is fresher at eight or 9 degrees. tomorrow, it starts off fairly cloudy across southern areas, misty and gloomy first thing in the morning. muggy, 15 degrees. by the time we get to the midlands, things are looking beautiful with clear blue skies. a stunning start of the
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day, gorgeous across the northern isles, a couple of spots of rain, thatis isles, a couple of spots of rain, that is pretty much it. tomorrow, that is pretty much it. tomorrow, that cloud breaks up, and then, apart from the odd little shower here and there, overall we have more less a sunny day across the uk with highs in the mid—20s, in london, 21 in yorkshire, not far off 20 in scotland. little change into tomorrow evening. a beautiful day tomorrow evening. a beautiful day tomorrow and a beautiful end to the day as well. a change on the way on thursday, some low—pressure, parked in the north atlantic, orjust above it, with a weather front across the uk. ahead of it, wafting up warm air. temporarily in the second half of the week it warms up across these areas. newcastle gets to 21 degrees. rain moves through northern ireland
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and scotland, getting into western areas. ahead of that, it could be about 26 degrees in london. i didn't mean to get that to disappear! that is the summary for the rest of the week. warm in the south, fresher in the north, and rain on the way. that's all, goodbye. tonight at six — labour's key manifesto pledge on childcare but jeremy corbyn stumbles over its cost. he's now apologised for not knowing the bill for extending free care for all two to four year olds. how much will it cost? i will give you the figure in a moment. you don't know it? erm... you are logging into your ipad here, you've announced a major policy and you don't know how much it costs? theresa may concentrates on brexit and says she'll be ready on day one to negotiate for britain. the snp launches its manifesto — nicola sturgeon calls for scotland to have a greater say
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in brexit negotiations. scotland must have a choice about our future. the choice between following the uk down the brexit path or becoming an independent country.
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