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this is bbc news. the headlines at 3:00pm. the third london bridge attacker is named as 22—year—old moroccan—italian youssef zaghba — italian authorities had stopped him travelling to syria last year. bell tolls. a minute's silence is held across the uk for the seven who were killed — and the dozens more injured — in the attack. tributes are paid to an australian nurse — kirsty boden — who was killed as she ran to help people injured on the bridge. another australian, 21—year—old sara zelenak, has been missing since saturday, her aunt says they fear the worst. she's one of those people who doesn't drink, doesn't do drugs, doesn't do anything wrong. she's amazing and she's 21 years of age. rbs reaches a £200 million settlement with investors who say they were misled about the bank's strength during the financial crisis. it is twice the size ofjupiter with
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a temperature of more than 4000 degrees. scientists discovered the hottest planet ever found. good afternoon, and welcome to bbc news. the third man who carried out the deadly attack on london bridge has been named as 22—year—old youssef zaghba — who was of italian—moroccan descent. italian media are reporting that he had been stopped by the authorities last year as he tried to travel from italy to syria. scotla nd scotland yard defended its decision to downgrade its investigation into khuram butt. it said there was no
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evidence at the time to suggest he was planning an attack. london bridge and borough market this morning — rain—lashed tributes and streets still closed off, and more details emerging about those responsible for the carnage. two of the attackers were named yesterday, khuram butt and rachid redouane. but this morning brought a third name, youssef zaghba, an italian born in morocco. according to an italian newspaper, he was known to the authorities there, who tipped off british officials about his movements. which raises fresh questions about precisely what the authorities here knew about these dangerous men. according to the press report, zaghba was prevented from travelling to syria last year. did officials at mi5 know this, and if so, what kind of watch list was he on? similar questions have already been asked about khuram butt. he'd even been filmed in a documentary about british islamist extremists. the police knew all about him, but didn't think he represented an imminent threat. these are the black flags of islam.
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this one is actually the flag of the islamic state... but one of the other faces in the documentary was siddhartha dhar, now a member of so—called islamic state. in 2014, under investigation for allegedly encouraging terrorism, he jumped bail and travelled to syria with his wife and children. he's thought to have appeared in several is propaganda videos. given these connections, what more should have been known and done about the london bridge plotters? i have no doubt that they will be looking into, if there were lessons to be learned, what went wrong, did they know about this man, did they act rightly, and i'm sure in due course they'll be letting us know what went on. what i think‘s improperfor me to do, without seeing all the facts, to comment about that, but clearly there are legitimate questions raised, which are not unreasonable by journalists and members of public are asking and i'm asking about. the whole world, one day, my brothers, will be
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underthe sharia... many of those featured in the documentary were members of the outlawed group al—muhajiroun. one of its cofounders, anjem choudary, was jailed in 2015 for inviting support for a banned organisation — is. one of his followers, khuram butt, was known well beyond britishjihadi circles. khuram butt was a member of al—muhajiroun going back some years. i was one of the chief... radicalisers and recruiters for al-qaeda here in the united states from approximately 2007 until my arrest in 2011. i would say that he appeared on our radar rather late but was an active member inside of our communication platform. back at london bridge, the flowers and the questions keep coming. the police have made one fresh arrest, but 12 people detained since saturday have already been released without charge. our home affairs correspondent daniel sandford has been following developments outside
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new scotland yard. the newest question is around the third man to be named, youssef zaghba. he's 22, an italian citizen of moroccan origin, whose father was moroccan and mother was from bologna. he was trying to leave bologna for istanbul in march 2016. italian police stopped him from travelling. they say at that point he was put on a watchlist, which should have been available to all the various authorities across europe, including the uk authorities. and yet, when the metropolitan police confirmed they knew youssef zaghba was one of the three men who carried out this attack on saturday and shot by their officers, they say he wasn't a counterterrorism or m15 subject of interest. so there are possibly signs of a communication breakdown, or possibly despite the information from italy that youssef zaghba
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was trying to go to syria, he wasn't regarded as a serious enough concern that he became a subject of interest for the security services here. particularly difficult questions over the one dead terrorist who appeared in a documentary last year. yes, khuram butt, questions about him are even more difficult. it's worth saying, the people who killed the seven people on the bridge and in borough market, were the men who drove the van into the crowds and jumped out and hacked their way through night—time revellers. khuram butt was investigated by police in 2015, and that investigation wasn't formally closed. less resources were dedicated to it, because it didn't seem as if there was any attack planning, as the jargon goes. he remained a subject of interest for the security service m15. when we asked police if they felt the right decisions had been made
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in terms of the priorities, they said frankly they were, because there wasn't any sign at that point that khuram butt, although he was clearly radical and carrying around with people associated with a banned group, they couldn't see him as being involved in any attack planning. this is the dilemma for m15 and the metropolitan police counterterrorism unit. you may see someone who is clearly radicalised and expressing all sorts of strange views but they aren't committing a criminal offence. what do you do? suddenly, on the spur of the moment they can rent a van, grab some knives from the kitchen drawer, and carry out an attack on london bridge. how do you deal with that? at 11 o'clock this morning a minute's silence was held across the uk for the victims of the london bridge attack on saturday night. today the third victim was named as 28—year—old kirsty boden — an australian nurse who worked at guys and st thomas'
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hospital by london bridge. her family say she died after running to help others during the attack. there are also grave concerns for a 21—year—old australian who has been working as a nanny in london. sara zelenak‘s family say they've had no news of her since saturday. daniela relph reports. bell tolls. at london bridge, where an attack changed so many lives, they came to remember. at the headquarters of the london ambulance service, the mayor of london stood with those who worked so hard to save lives. and silence in manchester, a city that shares the pain of recent attacks with london. around britain, people paused to reflect.
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the silence was about remembering the victims. they now include kirsty boden, a nurse named today as another of those killed. in a statement, her family said: the stories of those killed and injured are still emerging. for those looking for loved ones, the wait is unbearable. sara zelenak, an australian, has not been in contact since saturday night.
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sara's beautiful. she is the girl next door. she is a very special kindred spirit. she is one of those people who doesn't drink, do drugs, do anything wrong. she is amazing, and she is 21 years of age... these are painful days, as so many families face the trauma that a terror attack brings. after london bridge, the second terror attack well questions continue to grow about how the three attackers slipped through the net. this morning the foreign secretary borisjohnson said the government would be looking into exactly what was know previously about the killers. the labour mayor of london, sadiq khan, has said that planned cuts to the size of the metropolitan police force will make it harder to stop terror attacks in the future. 0ur political correspondent leila nathoo reports. after london bridge,
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the second terror attack to punctuate the election campaign, security now at its heart, questions for the conservatives about whether the government missed a red flag over the third man involved. bits are still an ongoing investigation. we need to let police and security services have the time and security services have the time and space to continue that investigation. but i would expect that they will look at their processes . that they will look at their processes. asked if she was sorry for police cuts under her watch, the prime minister didn't apologise, wanting to focus on the task ahead. what government needs to do from friday onwards is to be looking at how this terror threat is evolving, the way that terrorism is breeding terrorism, the increased tempo of attack. we've had three horrific attacks in the last three months. attack. we've had three horrific attacks in the last three monthsm
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response to claims tory cuts have made an impact, the conservatives insist more money has gone into counterterrorism and armed officers. in the capital, a warning that continuing to pare back budgets is unsustainable. under a renewed theresa may government, after the cuts to police, we would have fewer police officers, and all the experts tell me one of the ways we counter terrorism is by fantastic police in the community. members of the community of all backgrounds, report intelligence to police officers, and they pass it on, and it helps keep us safe. so, fewer police officers means we are in more danger. labour is promising more police, and more staff for the security services. the argument from the opposition party is that those whose job it is to protect us need more resources, not more powers. it is not that they don't have the ability to track people, but because of cuts made in police and intelligence services over the years, that we don't have enough pairs of hands and eyes to track people and bring them tojustice. we must also open a debate in this
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country as to whether we routinely arm our police force, particularly in major cities. at the very least, we must double the number of armed police officers as soon as possible. in the final days of the campaign, parties are still vying for votes. but with tackling terrorism now top of the agenda, they're competing on who can be trusted to deal with the threat. 0ne one of the most important issues for voters is the nhs. 0ur reporter spoke to two health workers and asked them which party they think has the best ideas for solving them. in a training hospital in bradford,
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two people who love the nhs. how do you do ashley, i am gordon mcclellan, recently retired consultant orthopaedic surgeon. two people who agree the nhs needs help. i'm a 33—year—old junior doctor working in cancer medicine. but who disagree about the best way to help this patient. the current government is cutting the nhs budgets on an historic level... that's not true, though, is it. it absolutely is. please. sustainability and transformation partnerships, planned to close or merge one in six a&es across the country. the real amount of money being spent on the nhs is going up and up and up. delayed transferw, delayed discharges, the numbers are soaring. it's unbelievable the crisis in the trinity. people died in my day, too, and it was as heartbreaking for us as young doctors and young consultants, as it is for you today. but the way in which you are unable to get people home, where they want to be, is entirely the fault of the last labour government.
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what you're failing to recognise, gordon, is that waiting lists went dramatically down, mortality went down under the labour government. we've lost 50% of our beds, inpatient beds, since the 80s. this obsession with hospital bed numbers is utterly unfounded. it's history. the patient wants to be at home. they do not want to be in a hospital bed. so opening more and more hospital beds is not the answer. go to manchester. they have taken over the whole of health care from general practice, community care, the lot. manchester health service managers don't go whingeing to whitehall, they sorted out in manchester for manchester's people. ask manchester what their deficit is, ok? there are huge, huge problems. you're talking about devolution. you are devolving responsibility for a crisis.
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the party i trust most to sort out the problem with the nhs now is the conservative party. without any shadow of a doubt, because they are trying to bring the control and administration, and delivery of care, back to a local level. they absolutely cannot be trusted. jeremy hunt cannot be trusted. he has overseen a humanitarian crisis. what i am seeing from the labour party, funded properly, staff it probably, look at the pfi bill, none of that we are seeing in the conservative party manifesto. everything is not going to be fine with the nhs. i work in it, i see it every day. this election will be about whether or not the nhs exists in five years or not. 40 years i felt very much the way ashton does about the nhs. i was very worried about its future, but 40 years later, the british people have made the nhs work.
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they will always make the nhs work. it is an issue which divides, but one which affects every one of the electorate. on 8th ofjune, they will decide in whose hands the nhs is safe. 0ur headlines. the third london bridge attacker is named as 22—year—old youssef zaghba. he was reportedly stopped from trying to travel to syria by italian police last year. a minute's silences held across the uk for the seven killed and dozens injured in the attack. tributes paid to a 28—year—old australian nurse, kirsty boden, who was killed as she ran to help others. in sport, england post a competitive target of 311 for new
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zealand in their champions trophy group game in cardiff. alex hales,j rutan jos buttler all group game in cardiff. alex hales,j rutanjos buttler all made half centuries. southampton have asked the premier leak to investigate liverpool for an illegal approach for virgil van dijk. the british and irish lions held a minute ‘s silence at their training session today ahead of their second tour match in new zealand. i'll be backjust after 3:30pm. the exhumation of several graves is under way in a cemetery in the west midlands as part of a police investigation into the disappearance of a teenager 14 years ago. natalie putt, who was 17, and had a baby son, left her home in dudley to go shopping, but never returned. elizabeth glinka reports. natalie putt left the house to go to
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a local shop and never returned. her baby son was just 11 weeks old. at the time of her disappearance, it was treated as a missing person's enquiry. in 2004 and 18—year—old man was arrested but later released without charge. police now believe she was murdered. in the past, extensive searches of nearby parks and woodland have turned up no trace of the teenager. police say they are acting on evidence they believe to be credible. 0n acting on evidence they believe to be credible. on saturday evening, natalie's photograph was amongst a number of images of missing people displayed during the britain's got talent final. since the show a number of people have come forward with new information. it's that type of information that drives for would—be enquiry. it's been a long time since she went missing, we are com pletely time since she went missing, we are completely relying now on the public coming forward. as i've said before, i'm convinced there are people who
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know what happened to natalie putt and now was the time for them to come forward. the search is expected to last a few days and police believe there are at least two individuals who know why the site is of interest, they ask them to come forward. rbs has finally reached a £200 million settlement with investors who say they were duped into handing 12 billion pounds to the bank during the financial crisis in 2008. the rbs shareholder action group, which brought the lawsuit — represents 9,000 retail investors and 18 institutions. it's understood that they have informed the high courtjudge that they have accepted a "cash offer". earlier my colleague sophie raworth spoke to our business correspondent andy verity about the settlement. the shareholder say they weren't told about vital information about how rocky the rbs finances were at the time. we know what happened a few months later, rbs was bailed out by the taxpayer. those shares which have been worth £2 had sunk to about
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12p. they lost more than four fifths of their investment. thousands of these people were former members of staff at natwest and rbs. they were aggrieved, they brought this claim saying they have been misled. the bank said they would defended vigorously and i've got a quote from ross mcewen who said the bank would ta ke ross mcewen who said the bank would take this to court, the issues would be set out in court rather than an early settlement. that was 2014, clearly the bank changed its mind and decided to make a decent offer to the shareholders. now the shareholders have agreed to settle. a brief look at some of the day's other stories, and australian police say they're treating a siege in melbourne as a terrorist incident. the perpetrator was shot dead after killing a man and holding a woman hostage at a block of flats. three police officers were wounded during an exchange of fire at the end of the standoff. several arab countries including saudi arabia and egypt are closing their airspace to planes from qatar, as a diplomatic row intensifies. six states have now cut off all ties with the country,
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accusing it of supporting terrorism. the qatari government denies that, and has called for an honest dialogue. the head of british airways' parent company has blamed human error for the computer problems which caused chaos for tens of thousands of passengers over the bank holiday weekend. the chief executive of iag, willie walsh, said an engineer had disconnected the power supply to a data centre and then reconnected it without following the correct procedure. now, it's the hottest planet ever discovered — and hotter than most stars say scientists. it's called kelt—9b and its surface is believed to reach temperatures of 4,300 celsius. the research team at ohio state university says it's twice the size ofjupiter and 650 light years from earth. with me is our science correspondent, rebecca morelle. i've left you with nothing to say. what we're hearing if it is very hot and it's very big! laughter it's a cool
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discovery. it is super hot and hotter than most stars. the most common type of star in our universe isa common type of star in our universe is a red dwarf and it's hotter than that. it's not quite as hot as the sun but it's getting there. it was spotted back in 2014. the telescope that spotted it are called the extremely little telescopes! the way the scientists found it was they looked at its parent star and saw how its light dimmed as the big planet passed in front of it. at first they couldn't believe their eyes because they were looking at something so bizarre and superheated, they didn't think it could be a planet. that's why it's taken until now to confirm. there is a reason why it's so hot, it's because it's so close to its parent star which is huge and very hot as well. that orbit takes just two
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days. so a year on this planet is just two days long which is interesting. and that tale, does that mean it will eventually disappear? there are two sad thing is for this planet. it's so close to its parent star that it's getting blasted with extreme radiation all the time. that means its atmosphere is being evaporated. it might be made entirely from gas so it might vanish altogether. it might have a rocky core. however its star is a type of star that is really brilliant but relatively short lived. i son lasts for billions of yea rs, lived. i son lasts for billions of years, this star only lasts a few million. as it gets older it expands, because this planet is so close, it will be engulfed by it. if you million years probably. we'll come back. thank you. the election campaign continues. tim
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farron is in sheffield visiting a factory. this is life and we will return to him. we will be shown around a newly opened gripple factory. with two days to go, all the party leaders are out canvassing. 0ur correspondent, dan johnson, is in telford following the labour leader's campaign. what's happening there? people are gathering ready to hearjeremy corbyn‘s latest campaign speech. it's the same speech he's been giving around the country, addressing big crowds. you probably saw some pictures last night from gateshead where there were literally thousands of people standing in the
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rain. that wasn't meant to happen. we will return later where we expect to hear from we will return later where we expect to hearfrom tim farron and we will return later where we expect to hear from tim farron and jeremy corbyn at some stage this afternoon. and we will return to dan and to those following tim farron. the headlines coming up, now the weather. the thing i love about the good old british weather is no matter what it throws at us there's a lwa ys matter what it throws at us there's always someone out there enjoying themselves. we have heavy, persistent rain but somebody in nottinghamshire is having a great time. windsurfing is probably the best sport to be doing this afternoon! the heaviest of the rain is starting to move away from the south—east but it's really persistent across the far north of scotland. some of these showers further south with gusts of wind, some of them are heavy and thundery as well. the winds will ease but the
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rain continues into the north—east. we could have as much as 100 millimetres of rainfall across north—east scotland before the system clears through. it will start to do so tomorrow morning and then behind some sunshine coming through. wednesday will be the best day of the week. highs likely to peak at 21 degrees. a bit fresher along the north and west facing coast. more wet and windy weather expected on thursday, perhaps not as bad as today. i'm sure gardeners and growers will be happy. hello. this is bbc news with simon mccoy. the headlines at 3.28pm. scotland yard name the third man who carried out the attacks in london on saturday
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night as youssef zaghba — a 22 year old italian of moroccan descent. he's reported to have been stopped by italian police last year from trying to reach syria and put on a watch list. people across the country observed a minute's silence at eleven o'clock this morning in remembrance of those who lost their lives and all others who were affected by the attacks in london. one of the seven people killed in the london bridge attacks has been identified as a nurse from south australia. the family of the 28—year—old kirsty boden said she'd run towards the bridge to help those who'd been injured. among those missing is 21—year—old sara zelenak from australia, who had been given the evening off to enjoy a night out with friends. her aunt says they fear the worst. scotland yard says detectives have also arrested a 27—year—old man in barking, in east london, this morning in connection with the attack. the address is being searched. it's time for the sport. we rejoin jessica. hello. thank you very much,
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simon. good afternoon to you. england's cricketers have set new zealand a competitive target of 311 to win their champions trophy group game in cardiff. there were half centuries from alex hales, joe root, jos butler. in reply, new zealand's luke ronchi has been bowled first ball by jake ball. they're on 4—1. a win for england will take them through to the last four. arsenal have announced the signing of the bosnia—herzegovina from the bundesliga side schalke. he's hasjoined the fa cup winners on a free transfer. he has an impressive claim to fame — he scored the fastest own goal in world cup history when he found the net at the 2014 tournament in brazil. southampton have asked the premier league to investigate liverpool for an alleged illegal approach for virgil van dijk. jurgen klopp has made the defender his top target this summer. and the manchester city and england women's captain steph houghton has agreed a new long—term contract with the club.
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she led city to a domestic title sweep last season. the cause of death of former newcastle player cheick tiote, is still being investigated, according to chinese club beijing enterprise. tiote collapsed in training with his new team and later died in hospital. he was just 30 years old. he enjoyed some of the best years of his career at newcastle, where he played for seven seasons, only moving to china in february. the british and irish lions held a minute's silence at their training session today, ahead of their second tour match in new zealand. the squad fell silent in tribute to the victims of the london terror attack. they take on auckland blues tomorrow but coach rob howley said they wanted to send a message home. quite emotional and huge condolences from the host squad, management, players and everyone connected with the british and irish lions. for
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those families who lost seven lives. it is devastating and we send our deepest condolences to all the families and out of respect it was important that we held the one minute silence. sir ben ainslie's land rover b.a.r team have had a major set—back in the america's cup challenger semi—finals in bermuda. they're 2—0 down to new zealand after damaging a wing in the first race. they couldn't fix it in time so they had to forfeit the second. it's a best—of—nine series so this was a real blow to the crew. we're gutted because we thought it was really our day today and you know, in three years of sailing, we've had maybe one wing breakage and here we are, the first race of the semifinals and it goes pop. yeah, absolutely gutted, but tomorrow is another day. there is a fantastic forecast and we will go and suck it to the kiwis tomorrow. britain's ibf world super—middleweight champion james degale is having surgery
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on his right shoulder tomorrow. he says he's been carrying an injury for over 12 months but he should be able to spar again within 10 weeks and he definitely expects to fight again before the end of the year. he's already talking about a possible rematch with george groves. rain has stopped play in the quarter—finals of the french open tennis. caroline wozniacki is a set up her last eight match against latvia'sjelena 0stapenko. but 0stapenko is battling back and is a double break up in the second. it was 5—2 before rain disrupted their match. while in the days other game — timea bacsinszky is a one set up against kristina mladenovic before play was stopped. that's all sport for now. john watson will have more for you in the next hour. jess, thank you very much for that. throughout the election campaign we've been taking a closer look at some of the key issues in the debate. today with the help of our specialist editors, we are focussing on brexit. 0ur europe editor katya adler has the view from brussels. it's almost been a whole year since
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the uk blind sided the eu by voting to leave the european club. since then, there has been a lot of anger, a lot of angst, a lot of insult throwing, but actual face—to—face negotiations? none. and the clock is ticking loudly and under eu rules britain's new government only has until mrch 2019 in order to agree a brexit deal. impossible say eurocrats to get that done and dusted in a short time frame, but the government will be under pressure to give it a go. still, as the saying goes, it takes two to tango or in this case, about 30 because you have the united kingdom on one side and on the other, well, the remaining eu member states, 27 of those, plus the european commission, plus the european parliament as well. all of them, of course, with their bargaining chips up course, with their bargaining chips up their sleeve. that's a very bad pun, but we are in belgium and chips
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and mayonnaise are very much part of the national diet! newsreel: here is the blast off. the very first thing the new government has to do on brexit is to choose a chief breaks negotiator. they then need to come here to brussels and agree with the eu how often they're going to meet, what they're going to talk about and in which order. the eu is very clear about its priorities. it says there will be no talk about future trade relations until there has been progress in three key areas. money, how much britain owes the eu in outstanding financial commitments. people, the eu wants to pinpoint the exact rights of european citizens living in the uk and british citizens living in the eu after brexit. and ireland, how to avoid reintroducing a hard border between the republic of ireland which is in the eu, and northern ireland, part of post brexit uk. 0f
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northern ireland, part of post brexit uk. of course, britain's new government will almost certainly have their own ideas about the choreography of brexit talks. whatever happens, they will be judged on the quality of the brexit deal they get. not from the brussels prospective, but in the eyes of british voters. welcome to bbc ask this. today we are looking at brexit and with me to answer your questions are our business editor simonjack, and our economics editor kamal ahmed. welcome to you both. thanks, simon. let's go straight into this. this is for you. this is from john in nottingham who asks via text, "it is said the eu exports more to us than we do to them. would that make us a very important market? " we do to them. would that make us a very important market?" it is right that the eu imports into the uk worth £290 billion. 0ur exports to
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the eu, are worth about £230 billion. yes, in money terms, they export more to us than we export to them. but, if you look at percentages which is rather more revealing, 43% of our exports go to the eu. 0nly between 8% and 17% of their exports come to us. look, britain is the fifth or sixth largest economy in the world. it is an important market for german cars and agricultural produce and french wine, whatever it maybe. so we are an important market, but the notion that we're more important than the eu is to us, i think, is a misnomer because it relies on the brute money numbers and when you look at proportions, percentages, it shows that the uk market for the whole of the eu is less proportionately significant than the eu market is to us. right. 0k. simon, via twitter, if there is no deal, wouldn't the
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inevitable collapse of the pound make us potentially a major exporter rifling germany. why the pessimism? that's a really good question. 0ne of the real economic facts that emerged since the 24thjune last year isa emerged since the 24thjune last year is a big fall in sterling. it was around 150 before the vote and fell to 119 and it is $1.30 and if we do have leave and we have a hard brexit the pound will go down further. now, that is obviously good news for exporters and there is some evidence that some exporters are seeing a build—up in their order booksment people are saying your stuff looks pretty cheapment however, there is a flip side to that, as there always is in economics, it means all the stuff we import, we import more than we export goes up in price and that's beginning to show up in supply chains for producers, it's beginning to show up in prices. we have seen prices are beginning to rise faster than wages so it might be good for
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exporters, it is not brilliant for living standards as long as we continue to be a country that imports more than it exports. a lot of our exports rely on imports, parts ? of our exports rely on imports, parts? that's the point. there is a story i like about the crank shaft for a story i like about the crank shaft fora mini. it story i like about the crank shaft for a mini. it gets produced in france. it gets mild in warwickshire and it goes to germany to get fitted into the engine. that engine comes back to the uk to get married up with the chassis and then it gets sold on in europe. that one component can cross the channel 4 or five times. the problem is when you see that and if we have tariffs for example, when we leave the european union, that could get expensive. you might throw sand in that engine of the import and export process. kamal alan on twitter, given current account deficit and lost trade because of hard brexit, how much could we expect gdp to contract? that's a pretty pessimistic view. so
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the forecasts have suggested, the bulk of the forecasts have suggested that if there is this hard brexit, as simon talks about and if there is as simon talks about and if there is a loss in trade relationships with our most important trading partner, a loss of foreign investment into the uk as the questioner suggests, there could be a contraction of gdp of 1% to 2%, not below where it is now, but below where it could get to given growth. growth is still in the system, but lower growth than if we we re system, but lower growth than if we were still in the european union. now, of course, forecasts are disputed. the uk economy since the referendum has performed a lot more strongly than many economists thought. that's been reliant on consumer confidence. the fact that we still have very high employment levels, very low interest rates. so, not everything in the performance of the economy can be put down to our relationship with the eu. it matters other things matter as well like interest rate policy for example. but if there is a what's called a
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ha rd but if there is a what's called a hard brexit or a chaotic leaving from the european union single market then yes, there could be a contraction in the uk economy in comparison to where it could have been. about 1% to 2% which sounds quite low, but actually, that would total an awful lot of money because obviously our economy is very large. 0k, gentlemen. some breaking news. we're just hearing that police are currently attending an incident at notre dame cathedral and warned the public to stay away. no other report at the moment. police have arrived at the famous parisian cathedral on the seine. police in the process of intervention on the fore court of notre dame cathedral in paris. the neighbourhood is closed and the operation is due to an assault with a hammer. an aggressor on the ground. condition not known. that's all we know the we read no more into
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it than that. anymore, i will bring it than that. anymore, i will bring it straight to you. i just want to return to our ask this section. simon, lee in shepperton, i'm keen to know whether or not small businesses will receive any corporation tax relief under a labour government? how can small businesses be expected to pay the same as multi—million pound firms? another good question. there is some distance between the political parties when it comes to corporation tax. at the moment, both big and small companies are taxed at the same rate, 20%. the tories want to reduce that to 17% over time. the lib dems say we want to keep it where it is and labour say they want to put it up to 26%. is a sharp hike from where it is now. in the old days, smaller companies paid a lower tax rate than bigger companies, but over time they have come out the same. the labour government are saying yes, we're going to put up corporation tax, it will help them
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raise the money they need for their spending plans, but there will be relief for smaller businesses, but how much relief you get is unclear, it used to be 2% or 3% less than the bigger companies paid and what the definition of small company will be remains to be seen. in the old days a small company was anyone who made tax or profits profits of less than {1.5 million. higher taxes on corporations from labour, but they say, for small businesses we're going to do things like crackdown on late payment which a lot of small businesses have a real problem, but, of course, there are the other promise they have made is to increase the minimum wage to £10 an hour and some small buses are wondering whether they can actually afford that. a bit on both sides on that policy. kamal, how, what is the reality of no deal and having to fall back on the wto rules? you better explain first of all the wto,
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the world trade organisation? the world trade organisation has been going since after the second world warand it is going since after the second world war and it is the policeman on trade deals around the world. and if you don't have a singular trade deal with something like the european union or with america or whoever it maybe, it's called, you then use the wto rules which govern the tariffs between countries. so countries can't just between countries. so countries can'tjust engage in unfair practises against each other.“ there is no deal we automatically bring that in? there is some dispute because we are only a member of the wto at the moment because we are a member of the european union and we need to re—do the schedules of the wto to be a new member once we have officially left the eu. most people think that will happen relatively straightforwardly. some other people dispute that. 0nce straightforwardly. some other people dispute that. once you are a member of the wto as britain will be, the eu cannot specifically target britain with tariffs that it's not targeting on other countries. so we
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would have the same tariff relationship with the european union as it has with any other country with which it doesn't have a free trade deal. but that could mean ta riffs trade deal. but that could mean tariffs on cars, on agricultural exports, higher than vat, tariffs on cars, on agricultural exports, higherthan vat, dairy produce, so it does mean there would bea produce, so it does mean there would be a tariff barrier, but it would be governed by the wto. the eu couldn't punish britain particularly badly because we've left the european union. ok. gentlemen, hang on. just one second. i know people will want to know anymore details on this incident in not ra dam. from reuters, police say they are attending the incident. it looks as though a policeman shot a man who tried to assault him. reports suggesting that a hammer was involved. that is all we've got at the moment. that's according to police sources. reuters news agency, a man shot and injured by police officers according to police. it is too early to suggest any motives and
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obviously too worth voting that all european capitals are on alert given events recently and also getting confirmation from the bfm news channel website that the area is in lockdown. due to an assault with a hammer. the aggressor is on the ground. his condition for the moment is unknown. that's the latest coming from paris. the reuters news agency. i want to return, straight back to paris as soon as anymore comes in on that. our honoured guests, kamal. ken dixon, people are told we are a rich country, please explain where the money is, are we rich? 0r rich country, please explain where the money is, are we rich? or are we very in debt? wow, well, we are a rich nation. ie, we earn a lot of money. we have a large economy, fifth or sixth largest depending on
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how you judge it in the world. we area how you judge it in the world. we are a rich country in that sense. i think as well the question is pointing towards this idea that at the moment the government spends more on public services than it earns in taxes so we have large debts and those debts are going up. we have a deficit so the debts are going up. so in that sense the government does owe a lot of money, but no, this country is a rich country in comparison to almost every other country in the world.“ isa every other country in the world.“ is a rich household that still uses its credit card is the way to think of it. we still spend... can we pay the credit card off? well, in the aftermath of the financial crisis, we saw the debt as a percentage of income of our national income go very, very high indeed and it has been on a, with pretty much the same as the way it was, but the amount that we're adding to the credit card balance every month is actually on its way down. just a bit, but it doesn't mean the outstanding balance isn't still enormous. it's about
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85%, something like that. just over 80% of national income. it is £1.7 trillion. we're a government, we're not a person. governments can borrow on the international markets. they have a currency, households tend not to have a currency, although the credit card analogy is an excellent one, it's not quite. governments are able to borrow in a way that we as members of the public are not. so you can have a debt and deficit position. that can be sustainable. there are different arguments about that. the tories are much more about what they call balancing the books. whereas labour say that yes, they wa nt to whereas labour say that yes, they want to balance the books, but we are borrow more in the present low interest rate environment to invest in things like infrastructure which is good for the economy and that's a big dividing line as we come up to thursday's election. £1.7 trillion we are in debt, but we make £2 trillion a year. so we make more in
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a yearthan we trillion a year. so we make more in a year than we are totally in debt, but the real figure is how much more every year do we spend every year than we get in? and the confidence of foreign investors. foreign investors support the uk economy. if they felt that public finances were out of control, that the credit card was out of control, they would charge us much more to fund our debts and that would weigh on the public finances. we spend, i think, £35 billion and £40 billion a year paying for our debts. so if you can get the debts down, that can be seen asa get the debts down, that can be seen as a good thing. gentlemen, we're out of time. take it outside! laughter me and my flexible friend. he has not been called that before! let's ta ke not been called that before! let's take you back to events in paris. still sketchy the information. it wa nt to still sketchy the information. it want to know you what the paris police are doing on twitter. intervention is in process. we are
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hearing that a man has been shot and injured by police. officers earlier suggestions with the reuters news agency that a policeman was attacked and it was after that that this incident developed into someone ending up injured. a policeman shot a man who tried to assault him near notre dame cathedral. that's the bare fa ct notre dame cathedral. that's the bare fact really. all we know at the moment and these are tweets appearing with the parisian police. an incident is still under way according to reuters and here exactly where notre dame, anyone who will have been to paris will know where it is. it is in the middle of the seine, close to the left bank and a huge tourist destination obviously. so, that is all we know
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at the moment. i'm just having a look to see if any other agencies, northerlily what happens once one agency starts with a story like this, others come in. afp are saying that an incident is under way at notre dame and an assailant as they put it, injured by an incident involving police. so, that's all we have. police shoot a man who attacked an officer with a hammer. earlier reports from the reuters news agency and afp, we'll bring you more injust a moment. the polls show that the conservatives lead has narrowed against labour, but in the last six weeks how much have the polls changed? jeremy vine has been taking a look at this and how it compares
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to the 2015 election results. 2015 it was and you can see the conservatives winning on 38%. if they get the same percentage this time they will have won again. labour on time they will have won again. labouron 31. time they will have won again. labour on 31. they could improve. gain seats and still not win in 2017. the liberal democrats way down on 8% and ukip on 13%. an awful lot of ukip voters there will come back to that in a moment. if we go back a year before theresa may called the general election, this is the story. so the conservatives dominant in the polls and dominant for the whole year. all the way through leading labour by some distance as you can see. you see why theresa may call the election, 43% to 27%, but the story changes if we look at the polls since the calling of that general election. so, week one to week six, here we go. all the way through we go, have a look at what happens to this conservative lead. see the way it narrows and see the
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wayjeremy corbyn see the way it narrows and see the way jeremy corbyn takes see the way it narrows and see the wayjeremy corbyn takes the conservatives to within 8% according to the polls. by the way, look at ukip and the lib dems how far down they are. the fascinating question is if there were millions of ukip voters last time and they have been dislodged, which parties have they gone to now? really interesting. 0k, the map tells the story of the election result in 2015ment here is 650 parliamentary constituencies, each one an individual battle between parties. so i will show you the conservatives first in blue and look at the way they wash over england, down the south—west, devon and cornwall for example. different story for labour though. their seats are much more densely packed in the cities. smaller seats and lots of people in them, manchester, sheffield and leeds, they serve labour very well indeed. the liberal democrats had a terrible time in 2015 with only eight seats, they will be looking to improve.
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disastrous if they don't. the snp in scotla nd disastrous if they don't. the snp in scotland had the night of their lives. there they are bathing scotla nd lives. there they are bathing scotland in yellow with 56 out of 59 seats. let's not forget the welsh nationalist, the greens and the parties in northern ireland. in the end this election comes down to what are called the marginal seats, the ones which were closest last time. here are the top 120 marginals. these are the seats that labour need to win. if the conservatives can hold on to the blue ones theresa may is almost certainly back in number ten. let's return to paris. the french police are tweeting about events at notre dame. it is reported a french police officer shot and injured a man who attacked him with a hammer just outside notre dame cathedral. it happens to be right next to the headquarters of police in the french capital. notre notre dame in the middle of the city. if you have been
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to paris, you will know where it is and the police station there on the right bank. police sealed off the area in front of the cathedral after this ins didn't. french television are reporting that tourists were fleeing for cover. this is one of europe's most visited tourist destinations, more than 13.6 million visitors per year and the most popular tourist destination in paris. so reports of people running away from the scene. a shot, one shot at least, apparently fired after a policeman injured a man who had attacked him with a hammer outside paris' notre dame. it is in lockdown the area around the cathedral. we are getting information all the time. reuters reporting that the man was later shot and injured by police officers who responded to the initial reports of the attack. i'm going to give one more agency a shot. no, that's all
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we have at the moment. so, a man attacked a police officer near notre dame and was later shot and injured bya dame and was later shot and injured by a police officer who responded to those reports. nil on that and we'll —— anymore on that and we'll return to it. first let's get a weather update. good afternoon. a funny old day. more like autumn today. gusts of winds through the afternoon in excess of 50mph to 60mph. this was just an hour or so ago. and it does look as though we're going to continue to see heavy, persistent rain particularly across scotland. so it's not the best of afternoons in st andrew's, fife, lots of heavy rain here. this has been the story so far today. even behind it, we have seen brighter conditions. sunny spells, but scattered showers and some of those heavy and thundery, but it's the rain in the far north
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that will linger, but right into the evening and overnight as well. so some of it really quite heavy. a blustery end to the evening if you're out on the roads for the early evening rush hour. it is worth bearing in mind with a lot of rain. we could see four inches before the system clears away. a similar story across the lake district with gusts of winds in excess of 45mph, 50mph for a time. still a scattering of showers further south. the winds more of a feature, i suspect. bear that in mind if you're out and about on the roads. i suspect through the end of the afternoon temperatures will look like this, 11 to 18 celsius but the winds will ease. the rain gradually pushes its way north and east, but it is expected to linger across the northern isles, north—east scotland and east coast fringes of north—east england as well. quieter further south and west. eight to 11 celsius through the night. so we start off tomorrow still with that low pressure still
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clinging on to the north—east, the isobars start to stretch out and open up which means that the winds fall lighter. it could be a better day tomorrow before the next area of low pressure moves in. but enjoy the sunshine really and temperatures a degree or so up sunshine really and temperatures a degree or so up on sunshine really and temperatures a degree or so up on today. we keep the rain into the far north and with that north—westerly breeze temperatures more subdued. we could see highs of around 21, but as you can see waiting in the wings down to the south—west, there is a potential for yet more rain to arrive. now, this time, we're not expecting to be as severe as today. there will be a band of showery rain moving northwards and allowing for slight improvement as we come out of thursday and into friday. so, it does look as though we will continue to see unsettled weather this week. hopefully a little bit quieter as we move into friday. this is bbc news. the headlines at 4:00pm.
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french police say they have shot a man at notre dame after he tried to use a hammer. the third london bridge attacker is named as 22—year—old moroccan—italian youssef zaghba, italian authorities had stopped him travelling to syria last year. a minute's silence is held across the uk for the seven who were killed and the dozens more injured in the attack. tributes are paid to an australian nurse as she ran towards people on the bridge. another australian, 21—year—old sara zelenak, has been missing since saturday, her aunt says they fear the worst. she's one of those people who doesn't drink, doesn't do drugs, doesn't do anything wrong. she's amazing and she's 21 years of age.
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