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this is bbc news. i'm annita mcveigh at westminster. downing street is forced to clarify its position over a deal with the dup, as they make it clear nothing is finalised yet. the defence secretary says a conservative deal with the democratic unionist party would only apply to "big issues". it is important now to build the government by working on the major issues with our friends from the dup. arlene foster is due in westminster this week and says they have made progress in the talks with the conservatives. one that would bring stability to the nation and these discussions continue. we have made good progress. amid the confusion over attempts to secure a majority, there is now open speculation over the prime minister's future. former chancellor george osborne described theresa may as a dead woman walking. it's just how long she's going to remain on death row. what's your guess?
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i think we will know very shortly. i mean, we could get to next week and it all collapses for her. labour leaderjeremy corbyn says there could be another election soon and he is preparing an alternative queen's speech. we are quite ready and able to put forward a serious programme, which has massive support within this country. also in the next hour, the fake suicide belts designed to spread terror in the london bridge attack. the police say anyone seeing them would have assumed they were real. one of the officers on the scene said what they faced. at that point, there were still a lot of gunshots ringing out. at that point, i did not know if it were coming from us orfrom the bad guys. and the tv presenter richard hammond is recovering in hospital, after his car crashed and burst into flames while filming you in switzerland.
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good afternoon from westminster, where the fall—out from the general election is continuing today. as work to find a deal with the democratic unionists continues, members of theresa may's cabinet have backed her despite open speculation from other senior tories about her future. overnight, the government and the democratic unionist party both issued statements, making clear that a deal between them has yet to be finalised. let's take a look at some of the main developments. defence secretary michael fallon says a deal can be done with the dup on major issues but clarified that there was no final agreement on the terms of a minority government deal. dup leader arlene foster is due to meet theresa may in downing street on tuesday.
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meanwhile, there's been much speculation about theresa may's future as prime minister, with former chancellor george osborne calling her, "a dead woman walking", after voters stripped her of a parliamentary majority. labour leaderjeremy corbyn says he is ready to fight another election, which he says could happen in the next few months or early next year, and in the meantime, he will be putting together an alternative queen's speech. no word this morning from theresa may, who attended a church service with her husband philip in her berkshire constituency, just a day after her two closest advisors resigned. mourn the defence has been seeing. the defence secretary says a conservative deal with the democratic unionist party would only apply to "big issues" like the economy and security.
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i think the prime minister was right to ask for a bigger majority to open up the brexit negotiations, and to build a stronger, fairer britain beyond that. she didn't have an elected mandate herself, she wanted a bigger majority, that hasn't transpired and now we have to get on and make the best of it. and she is entirely responsible for this, she decided to call the election, she made it about her, she said, it is me, me, me, a lot of the country said, no, no, no, and as a result, we are in a position of chaos. the whole process has been thoroughly irresponsible, has it not? hang on a moment, the government supported her in that election campaign. so, it is your fault? we all take responsibility, of course. she won the most seats, 56 seats more than labour, the biggest share of the vote for 3h years. it was not a big majority that she wanted, that we wanted, we now have to get on and make the best of it. there is no other party that has any legitimacy or credibility forming the government but we now want to form that government with the support of the dup. i'm joined by our political
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correspondent ellie price. they deal with the dup that theresa may has to get. what do we know about that? and what has the leader of the dup beam ceiling? the party only has ten seats in northern ireland, but crucially they are very important seats. but the will want to be looking to support the government on big issues, such as the queen ‘s speech, but there are other issues that they will want in putin, such as trade with the
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republic of ireland in the weed out out of brexit. this is what she was seeing yesterday. is there any sort of deal? we have had discussions with the government. these discussions continue. we have made good progress. there was a statement from downing street that a deal had been made, so was that wrong?|j downing street that a deal had been made, so was that wrong? i am not going to negotiate on television, but we will act in the national interest of the united kingdom. there has been a lot of hyperbole about things said about the dup by
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people who do not know what we stand for. butjust to make it clear, we will act in the national interest and do what is right for the all of the united kingdom. if theresa may separate survives as prime minister in the short term, do you think she can survive in the medium to long term? a lot of people do not think thatis term? a lot of people do not think that is possible. we have heard from many people today we have heard that many people today we have heard that many people today we have heard that many people believe her position is untenable. i think her position is long—term untenable. i was one of the first people to come out and support her. but given that she put
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her name on the campaign, i do not think she can continue in the long term. ithink think she can continue in the long term. i think she will have two step down. but not for some time. we need some stability. we need that sense of our economy and our country at the forefront. she has got to open up the forefront. she has got to open up and be more able to listen to people like philip hammond and get help with in the cabinet. if she can do that, she could maybe said the only way for her to leave. i think the british people would be appalled at the prospect of another general election. i have to say, there is no way be going on the european union result. many people here, like i
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have, did not vote to leave the european union but accept the result. but i think what they have doneis result. but i think what they have done is rejected the notion of a heart brexit. and we also hear from george osborne. the chancellor up until last year, who was unceremoniously sacked by theresa may. he was hardly pulling his punches today. i mean theresa may is a dead woman walking, it's just how long she's going to remain on death row. what's your guess? i think we will know very shortly. we could get easily to the middle of next week and it all collapses for her, or if it doesn't — and i agree with toby, there are many tory mps who don't want a leadership contest right now — it will be delayed. but be in no doubt —
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look at this weekend, you've got the leader of the opposition coming on the programme as a sort of victor, and you've got the prime minister, who's supposed to have won the election, in hiding, and that speaks volumes about what has gone on in the election. we can bring in some pictures of the home secretary. she just managed to hang onto her constituency. many people are tipping her to be a possible successor. she did not have a lot to say. can the prime minister stay on as leader? she is an excellent reader and she should stay on. what about george osborne describing her as a paid women walking. no comment. thank you. amber rudd, the home secretary. labour leader, jeremy corbyn, says there could be another election
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soon and he is preparing an alternative queen's speech. he was looking very relaxed on television. yes, he is giving the impression that he did not lose the election, but simply did notjust quite do enough to win it. he is giving the impression that he is very much weeping in the wings and expecting another general election. —— waiting. i think there could be another election next year and that would be a good thing because we cannot have this instability. we are ready to fight another campaign. we got great support for it an agenda which is transformative and people are asking, why are my children worse off than i am? this election was not just about
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worse off than i am? this election was notjust about brexit, it was about challenging and economic consensus which has impoverished so many people. do you think the tape of brexit that theresa may was calling for has changed? at face value, listening to senior conservatives, that is not the case. but i think behind the scenes, things could be different. after all, the general election was called on the basis of theresa may being able to go to the european union with the strong negotiating position, having had the backing of the people of britain. there is talk behind the scenes that it could be problems with the make up of the parliament. obviously, that is the
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situation with the dup. one of the things they will be absolutely desperate for is no imposition of a heart border with the republic of ireland, with most of the trade. let's speak to the labour's clive lewis, who was re—elected to become mp for norwich south, and hejoins us from our norwich studio. is it inevitable that the tape of brexit we were talking about seven weeks ago will change? we have just had the general election and i still do not know what her position on brexit. she has basically said no deal is better than a bad deal. it has blown up in herface. it has not worked. we now find ourselves in a situation where she is potentially
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entering into a coalition with the political party with ideas based in the 17th century. i think it is time for her to eat eat large pools of humble pie and start working with the national interest with a large number of political leaders, including the labour party. do you thinkjeremy corbyn will be able to affect change? i know your colic had been talking about a cross—party brexit committee. jeremy corbyn and the labour party have just achieved a very significant and historic swing. we did not win. we have to be clear about that. but i think this isa clear about that. but i think this is a turning point. we were told
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that our manifesto and redistribute income was not a strategy that would work. what we do not want to get carried away, this is a conservative party that is on the back foot and is not in a stable position. we understand that theresa may at her government if they can hold together in the next couple of week is going to enter into some of the most important negotiations this country has ever seen. that has to be the priority. my instinct is to put a sta ke priority. my instinct is to put a stake through the heart of the conservative party, but there are bigger issues at stake. theresa may needs to reach out and form consensus about how we go forward. bihar brexit will not bring about consensus. jeremy corbyn said he
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would welcome people back onto the front bench as people who had previously said he could not work with him. yvette cooper is another who support may be asked for. is that what is happening at the moment? i do not know. the shadow chancellor said the team that won this is a winning team. a lot of people worked so hard during this campaign. a whole range of people worked fantastically, so it is up to jeremy corbyn in the leadership about who the put forward. they might want to reach out, but at the present, it is the people on the shadow cabinet at the moment that played a large part in getting us to where we are today. but you would
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not be surprised? jeremy corbyn is very magnanimous. he reached out after the first leadership election. he reached out out of the second one. iam he reached out out of the second one. i am sure he will do the same again. and the situation has changed. when i won my election, i have understood that politics has shifted in the last couple of years since then. but we are able to bring into effect our values and principles we in which was not possible a few weeks ago. i think it has opened up a lot of opportunities. but it is no time for unity and get behind the shadow cabinet and hold this very unstable government to account and make sure we have the best deal for the people of this country as things were
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before the election we are not going to get because of the very tough brexit. it would damage the livelihoods of many of the people in this country, including my constituents. we can speak to the conservative mp and the former northern ireland secretary owen paterson. thank you forjoining us. - liz paterson. thank you forjoining us. — liz said his instinct was to finish off the conservative party but he said in the greater interests of the party, he wanted to see stability but said theresa may it was not the person to deliver that. as her position untenable?” was not the person to deliver that. as her position untenable? i think it is very important for the country to recognise that the labour party was still meals behind the conservative party in the election.
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if the book got together with all the other parties in parliament they could still not form a majority in parliament. it is important then that theresa may continues and especially in the week of the most important discussions coming up for our country, the brexit negotiations. the simple fact is that people voted to take back control. the idea of what people brexit it is is not so important. people will look at her position, she is going to be in that position in the very short term?” she is going to be in that position in the very short term? i think we will have to wait and see how things
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pan out. what the european union negotiators that it recognises that the country backed the idea of brexit. it is important that the political establishment deliver on what people voted for last year. that has not gone away. it is very simple, it is taking back control by a democracy of our own laws and their own borders. we are hearing that the dup me not want a soft brexit but the want a certain deal that will cut through what theresa may was looking for. if they are
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going to get on board with her, surely the nature of brexit us to change. i think it was a perfectly sensible nick negotiation statement. there is no incentive for anyone to give them anything, so we have to be able to show that we will walk away with it -- able to show that we will walk away with it —— walk away from it. i think it would be very helpful to have the dup involved in the talks. people in northern ireland and the republic of ireland have said they wa nted republic of ireland have said they wanted the common travel area to continue and it has been very good for trade across both borders. do you think that the dup insistence
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that there has to be some sort of deal is acceptable? i do not think it makes much of a difference. every party will see we want to do a deal. you cannot do asjeremy corbyn are seeing that will we end up, we accept the deal. that is nonsense. there is concern about this. it does terrible damage to the integrity of the british establishment if our democratic decision to leave the european union is not or not. what about the future of talks to revive the northern ireland assembly. peter hain said the prime minister cannot
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play party politics with northern ireland. a concern any deal between the dup and the conservatives would be hugely detrimental to confidence a botox, according to sinn fein. —— to talks. i do not agree with peter. he is very happy for senior republicans like gerry adams and is now a prominent member of the republic of ireland cabinet, but i said back when i was negotiating a
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deal with the ulster unionists back in 2010, i said they do not see why he talented northern ireland citizens should be excluded from politics. once the belfast agreement had been signed and brought huge benefits after huge stage by the governments and i thought the key thing about it would be that after that, the republicans would play a key pa rt that, the republicans would play a key part in british politics. there is no indication of that happening. the problem we have is our local
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level that. i am the problem we have is our local levelthat. i am sorry the problem we have is our local level that. i am sorry for interrupting you, but we are having a major problem with the sound. we are losing a lot of what you are seeing. if i can just are losing a lot of what you are seeing. ifi canjust make are losing a lot of what you are seeing. if i canjust make one are losing a lot of what you are seeing. ifi canjust make one last point, the dup said there were no red lines in the approach to put together an assembly once again. the onusis together an assembly once again. the onus is no on sinn fein. the two parties have to come together. they have two set down for the people —— for the good of the people of northern ireland and that is exasperation over the on behalf of the people that the politicians locally have not sat down in the executive. i very much warp that will change. thank you very much.
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owen paterson, former northern ireland secretary thank you. our correspondentjohn campbell is in our belfast newsroom. interesting he was seeing that dup the are insisting there are no red lines in their approach to getting power—sharing back in northern ireland. we have not heard a lot from the dup publicly about that? what they'll be looking for is a purely economic
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