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tv   Outside Source  BBC News  June 19, 2017 9:00pm-9:31pm BST

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hello, i'm ros atkins, this is outside source. we start at the finsbury park mosque in north london where a man drove into worshippers late sunday night. the van hit a crowd who had gathered to help an elderly man who had collapsed and later died. it's not clear if his death was the result of the attack. ten others were also hurt. a man has been arrested for terror offences. the bbc understands he is 47—year—old darren osborne. this is what the prime minister said. it is a reminder that terrorism, extremism and hatred take many forms. our determination to tackle them must be the same whoever is responsible. in brussels the first brexit negotiations between britain and the eu have begun. we have heard from both men leading each side. i have been encouraged
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the constructive approach both sides have taken. we need to agree on the key principles on the main challenges on the uk withdrawal as sooi'i as challenges on the uk withdrawal as soon as possible. christian fraser will be live from brussels. if you have a question about these brexit negotiations, send them my way and we will put some of them to christian. the uk is dealing with its fourth terror attack in four months. last night a van drove into a crowd of worshippers near a mosque in north london. this was the moment the man who allegedly carried out the attack was apprehended by onlookers. several men were needed to pin him to the ground. the bbc understands he is a 47—year—old called darren osborne, from cardiff. here's one of the people that captured him. we got him down to the ground. he
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was saying, i'm going to kill more people. when he was on the ground, i asked him, why did you do that? innocent people. and he said, i want to kill muslims. he said, kill me. we said we are not going to kill you, why did you do that and he wouldn't answer. the restrictions around what we can
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say. the crowd that was struck had gathered to help an elderly man who'd collapsed and later died. it's not clear if his death was related to the attack. ten other people were hurt. well, the attack was in the constituency of the opposition leaderjeremy corbyn. he arrived in the early hours. prime minister theresa may also visited. here they both are — along the city's mayor and police chief. the terrible terrorist attack that took place last night was an evil act born out of hatred and it has devastated a community. i am pleased to be here today to see the strength of that community, coming together, all faiths, united in one desire to
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see extremism and hatred of all sorts driven out of our society. there is no place for this hatred in oui’ there is no place for this hatred in our country today and we need to work together as one society, one community, to drive it out, this evil, that is affecting so many families. the stress levels of the people i have met from last night and this morning, they are just frightened, that something like this could happen again. we obviously need efficient and effective policing and we also need an attitude in our society of support for each other. the only way to deal with this kind of issue is community is coming together. this was quite clearly an attack on muslims who looked like they were probably muslims and they were coming from a prayer meeting. we treat this as a terrorist attack and we in the met are as shocked as anybody. these have been a terrible few weeks for
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london. unprecedented in recent times. we have seen the horror of the fire at grenfell tower. we have seen the attack on london bridge and before that, westminster bridge. we saw last night the terrorist attack here in seven sisters. we will stay a strong city. we have been at the scene during the day. i'm not sure if you can make this out, the police tape. behind that is where the incident took place, that attack. it is now a crime scene. literally round the corner is finsbury park mosque where so many people have been taking part in evening prayers. it is the holy month of ramadan. that is the same mosque where theresa may today met with local leaders and leaders of that mosque and also other faith leaders to try to give some reassurance about
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safety. she has said she is going to review security outside mosques around the country but a lot of people are saying that is not enough and they want to see more security tonight. much more information on what happened at finsbury park on the bbc news app right now. brexit talks have officially begun. these pictures are from the beginning of the day. at the end of the day after a series of meetings, they held a press conference. i've been encouraged by the constructive approach both sides have taken. we have an eminently achievable timetable. it was clear in the opening that both of us want to achieve the best possible outcome and a strong as possible partnership. one that works for the
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uk and forthe partnership. one that works for the uk and for the eu. slay we also agreed of the importance of the timing for this first phase. our objective is to agree on the main principles of the key challenges for the uk's withdrawals. as soon as possible. this includes cuts citizens‘ rights, the single financial settlement and a question of ireland. if you are particularly keen, the guidelines of the negotiations have been agreed and they have been posted online. very easy to find. they are the guiding you all the way through. the main headline is they will be negotiations of a week at a time and those weeks will take place every four weeks. also some light touches along the way. both men gave each
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other gifts. david davis gave michel barnier a book about mountaineering and michel barnier gave david davis and michel barnier gave david davis a special stick for going on long walks. i think this was a joke they we re walks. i think this was a joke they were both in on because as you can see, lots of people picked up on it and said, brexit negotiations get perfect gifts for an uphill struggle. you get the idea. christian fraser is live from brussels. a couple of months ago, david davis was saying, i want to talk about everything in one go. the details of us exiting and the future relationship we will have with the eu, all as one. the eu said no, that is not how it will work and today, they came together and the eu got its way. yes, and some people, particularly those on the remain side, would say he has folded on the first day. he says, it is set out in the wording of article 50. he will
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obviously push to talk about the future relationship in october going forward because they only have around 500 days to complete this negotiation. unless they get a vote from the europeans to carry on. some people saying that shows what a weakened position he is in. you could look at it in other ways because if you go back about a year, michel barnier was saying, we will get to the end of article 50 and then talk about the separation and then talk about the separation and then the future. —— the future trading relationship. maybe there is a bit of give and take. certainly, the europeans have got the timetable right here at the outset of the negotiations. we have got a few questions. this is from dave, saying do we have any agreed times or agreement milestones at this point? you pointed to the sequencing of the meetings. by my estimations, we will have had five weeks of negotiations by the end of october and a lot of
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work going on in the background. the paceis work going on in the background. the pace is certainly picking up. i would think by the end of october, they would want to have got to the end of citizens‘ rights, the european people living in the uk. also the uk nationals living in europe. there is the border issue with ireland which i think will take much longer and also the severance pay which i think will probably get solved recently quickly. david davis has said he thinks the uk will present the formula on citizens‘ rights on monday. maybe that will be done, i wouldn‘t think to quickly because there are some fairly tricky issues but i think by october they will be a long way down the road. someone watching in cape town has said, where does the queen fit into how britain approaches brexit? and alpha says, where does theresa may fit into the negotiations? on the queen, she is a constitutional
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monarch says she doesn‘t have executive power. she has some largely her role is. she does keep a abreast of what is going on in her weekly meetings with the prime minister and she gets government red boxes so she‘s very interested we know, in the brexit procedure. theresa may will no doubt be keeping you up—to—date on what is happening. the prime minister will certainly be in brussels on thursday. the first time she has been here since the election. they will not talk about brexit in the european council meetings. they have other issues to talk about. they will talk about brexit over coffee and mints which perhaps suggests where they put it in the pecking order. theresa may will be hanging around on the brexit negotiation team will be as well and she will also have to reassure them she will also have to reassure them she will also have to reassure them she will get this deal with the dup says she at least has a working majority in the house of commons. this is the guy with a twitter
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handle, b cool and relax. this is the guy with a twitter handle, b cooland relax. he this is the guy with a twitter handle, b cool and relax. he says what you think the uk believes is its strongest leverage in the brexit negotiations? the strongest leverage, obviously, the city of london, because a lot of the european debt is circulated within the city of london. obviously we have very important services, 80% of the uk economy is based in services. in one sense, although that could be a weakness, we also have a lot to offer to the european union and of course, we are because he was of european products. the germans are saying, that may well be, but there can be no cherry picking when it comes to brexit. i was making the point earlier, if we get a long way down the negotiations and angela merkel is brought in for some of the heavy lifting, do those issues start
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to tell? it may well be that the germans take a pragmatic viewpoint on brexit, particularly if there are large chunks of the economy that depend on it. security and defence i would other topics. mi6, depend on it. security and defence i would othertopics. mi6, mi5, lots of intelligence, those think they can offer to the european union. they don‘t want to dangle them but they are certainly a lever. this is from someone watching in london, will the negotiations tackle much greater issues now or will they wait for the general election switch off the top of my head are september 24? i don‘t thing there is any bigger issue in my view than the border between north and south and that took up the bulk of the conversation today. if britain withdraws from a customs union, how‘d you get that invisible border between north and south which is so crucial to the belfast agreement? neitherside wa nts to belfast agreement? neitherside wants to see a border in place
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between north and south but how‘d you get there? technically it is very difficult because northern ireland could be used as a back door into the european union. that will ta ke into the european union. that will take a lot of discussion i think. what was the question again? what role is the german election going to play in this? will they pushed the big issues behind the german election in case there is a change of leader? i think we will hear some strong rhetoric from the german chancellor over the next few months because of course, she is talking to her electorate as well. she is also talking to a wider european public saying, we cannot be divided by brexit. the 27 must stick together. i made a point when i was in paris, france is supposed to be the equal partner to germany but we know in the last few years because of its economic problems, it is not in germany is the one that has led. really interesting survey today
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talking about german influence in europe and some europeans who are in favour of the european project think it isa favour of the european project think it is a good thing germany has such influence, but those are the opposite side you don‘t like the involvement of the european union in every aspect of government, facing germany has too much influence so it isa germany has too much influence so it is a tricky balance for the germans. speak to tomorrow no doubt. we will be live at the eu summit on thursday for outside source. if you are really planning ahead, which frankly, you probably are not, but outside source will also be covering the german elections. we will be there a couple of times in september, the voting is on the 24th of september. we asked a number of people what they think of these european union negotiations and if they think anything has changed since the general election. after these recent elections, i am mostly
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disturbed because everybody now asking what is the real political will of british people. maybe it is cynical to say but it has a positive affect on the rest of europe. what we see is that since brexit, there was no domino effect. everyone has predicted that, after brexit, they should be lots of other countries exiting but what we have seen is a reverse. bad deal, no deal, no. we need a carefully negotiated deal protecting jobs, environmental standards, our young people and giving them hope and aspiration for the future. it is collaboration and cooperation. i think we're actually seeing more of an opportunity right now. after what has happened in the election, the door might be more open again, there is a chance again that we do not see a very hard brexit. my fear is the so-called soft brexit. a new term has been
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invented which means we would stay pa rt of invented which means we would stay part of the single market and go on paying money, we would have the european court making judgments and we would have the free movement of people and i fear that's the direction we may be heading in. ifi am right, it would constitute a great betrayal of the british voters. lots of information on the brexit negotiations available through the bbc news website. in a few minutes, we will be turning to nigeria. we have a report about how half the food aid meant for people in the north east of nigeria is not reaching them. we will find out why. the number of people believed to have died in the grenfell tower disaster in london has risen to 79. police named four more victims today. anthony disson was 65 and
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52—year—old khadija khalloufi was confirmed to have died. officers investigating also said the investigation will be wide—ranging. all criminal offences are being considered by scotland yard. three key themes within that, the first is how the building was managed and maintained, secondly, what kind of fire safety procedures were in place and thirdly, and this is critical in relation to the speculation, since wednesday, what kind of role, if any, did the refurbishment of the building have? what kind of role did that contribute to the disaster. that will take many weeks, if not months to get to the bottom of. welcome back to the bbc newsroom. i am ros atkins with outside source. our main story is that there has
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been attacked on a group of people close to a mosque last night. the bbc understands this man, darren osborne, is responsible. he was arrested at the scene for terror offences. let‘s come back to the outside source screen because i want to talk about what is happening in syria. russia has warned the us—led coalition fighting in syria that it will now view its aircraft as targets. that‘s because a us jet shot down a syrian jet on sunday. that‘s the first time that‘s happened. here‘s the russian foreign minister. translation: corn everybody to avoid unilateral action, the respect, and i stress again, serious sovereignty, and tojoin our i stress again, serious sovereignty, and to join our work which i stress again, serious sovereignty, and tojoin our work which is coordinated with the syrian government. we will try to understand the american point of view on this. do we have
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justification for this action? the shooting down of the syrian plane, the americans say it was forced protection, an act of self defence. they say the syrians were targeting some local forces they say the syrians were targeting some localforces on they say the syrians were targeting some local forces on the ground to which the americans were allied. they said they had been warned of against this and the american shot down the plane because the people we re down the plane because the people were injeopardy. down the plane because the people were in jeopardy. they down the plane because the people were injeopardy. they say down the plane because the people were in jeopardy. they say it‘s not a shift in strategy in terms of wanting to openly confront the syrian regime. the strategy is remains focused on trying to eradicate the islamic state group. in the meantime, if the regime is going to attack its allies and the partners it is working with, then it will respond. that is the explanation here. the chairman of thejoint chief of explanation here. the chairman of the joint chief of staff also talked about the russian element, because the russians have also cut off this hotline they have with the americans to prevent air accidents. he said
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there was a communications link between the two operational centres for the americans were working to try to re—establish what they call this the conflicting channel because it is very important to keep the risk down for the pilots in this crowded airspace. there are so many interested parties in the syrian conflict and out. what is the top priority now for the americans? is it ousting president assad or dealing with the islamic state group? it is the latter. the fact they have struck at pro—regime forces, this was the first time they shot down a plane but they have had a number of strikes against pro—regime forces in the last weeks. they say because they are advancing on us position or advancing on positions or getting too close to areas where they have partners on the ground and they are defending themselves, that is how they put it. what you‘re seeing is that isis is
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on the retreat and there is competition for areas and territory it leaves behind. this is bringing us forces in proximity to the regime forces backed by the iranians and russians and sometimes conflict. although america say the strategy is not to get involved in the civil war, the battlefield is getting more complicated and the risk of more violence is there. we appreciate the update. thank you. the us says it shot the plane down because it was dropping bombs nearfighters backed by america. russia and syria say its target was the islamic state group. like everything in the syrian conflict — it‘s fiendishly complicated — and hard to verfiy. this is a map from the end of may. each colour marks territory held by a different group or government. earlier i spoke to rasha qandeel from bbc arabic and she explained the circumstances in which the plane came down.
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you have two sides of the story. the syrian side saying the area that the us carrier targeted was actually occupied by the so—called islamic state. the other side says it wasn‘t and it was actually an area where the forces that they support, the sdf, were employed the. despite what you have been talking about, this has been targeted last week by iran with a missile. as it is crowded on the ground, it is now also crowded in the airand the ground, it is now also crowded in the air and the fear is it will become more complicated, the rules of engagement will be all mixed up. explain this channel between the americans and the russians which the russians are now saying we are not doing any more. despite the
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russians‘ reaction, it seemed to be very immediate and strict but actually it is not. the russians usually react to such attacks by forcing a counterattack or a reply immediately. this didn‘t happen. what happened was that there was a promise there is no immediate military action but it was a promise that anything west of the river will be targeted by russia as targets. this is another threat, halting communication with the united states would supposedly prevented incidents in the air. it is all talk but nothing actually took place on the ground or in the air. let's also talk about raqqa, the de facto capital of the territory controlled by the islamic state and it is under more pressure. yes. what the united states used today, it is like an example of what is going to happen in raqqa. the f—18 is a super
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hornet, it means the speed is a little beyond 2000 kilometres per hour and the range is 3300 kilometres. that means the united states might use twin—engine carriers which is a show of force, more than anything else on the ground. bekker is the centre held by the united states and it is supposedly, if it is actually by the islamic state, the so—called islamic state, raqqa is basically the capital, the centre,. if you speak arabic, you can get news from all of the world in arabic via bbc arabic .com. i will speak to you in a couple of minutes. good evening. there will be a
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detailed look in united kingdom just before the top of the hour. now we will look at some weather stories from elsewhere around the world. starting off in the caribbean because all this cloud has good potential to turn into a tropical storm. quite a large of thunderstorms and it will be moving ever northwards with increasingly strong winds. circulation developing. the southernmost state at risk of some pretty lively weather. tuesday, towards the north east looking pretty good in new york. some sunshine and pretty hot. hotter still in dallas and even hotter still in denver. just off the north coast of south america, yet another potential tropical storm. this one grazing at its way along the north coast. threatening trinidad and tobago, the grenadines, and then it gets out into the caribbean and heads north pushing its way towards espana. a lock to watch out for in this part of the
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world. things will be going downhill neots japan, increasingly wet and windy and that rain extending into southern china. a lot of rain in and around hong kong. the monsoon rains well underway in india. we will see some heavy downpours. i suspect the wettest weather will be in the northern reaches of the bay of bengal. in bangladesh, myanmar, north—east india, expecting as much as 800 to 1000 millimetres of rain. we have already seen some flooding and landslides, i think it will be and landslides, i think it will be an ongoing problem in the coming days. saudi arabia could pick up some dust and sand. it will have a significant impact on aviation in the region. last weekend in
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portugal, this is what we saw, serious and devastating wildfires, a number of fatalities. it has been very hot and windy and dry. throw in a dry thunderstorm to the mix and thatis a dry thunderstorm to the mix and that is the most likely reason we saw those devastating wildfires. you can see the big shower clouds rising. but it is falling into the very hot air. the lightning reached the ground, the main reason for those fires being started. hot weather across much of central and southern and some parts of eastern europe. we will see temperatures getting up to 32 degrees quite easily in rome. around 34 in madrid and similar in paris and probably go and similar in paris and probably go a few degrees higher by the end of this week. hello, i‘m ros atkins, this is outside source. we start at the finsbury park mosque in north london where a man drove into worshippers late sunday night. the van hit a crowd who had gathered to help an elderly man who had collapsed and later died. it‘s not clear if his death
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was the result of the attack. ten others were also hurt. a man has been arrested for terror offences. the bbc understands he is 47—year—old darren osborne. in nigeria: half of all the aid for people fleeing the country‘s islamist insurgency has not reached those who need it. we‘ll find out why. the number of people believed to have died in a tower block fire in london last week has now risen to 79. five have been named so far.
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