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they can get hotels in temporary accommodation for everybody. —— what trust do you have. but everybody is at the sports centre at the moment when you to see what will happen. how much sympathy do you have for the council, in that they feel, with the council, in that they feel, with the fire service, that these blocks can not be guaranteed as safe. surely it is better to have this disruption, isn't it, than to be in a block that really is not fit to you to be staying in, at the moment? yes. it is definitely safe to have people being evacuated because of fire doors that only regulations. but it is a bit unfortunate, especially for somebody like me, who has a four—year—old daughter. especially for somebody like me, who has a four-year-old daughter. what concerns have you had about your home, faye, until now?” concerns have you had about your home, faye, until now? i have not really had any concerns. it was only since what happened to grenfell tower that i realised there was not really a ny tower that i realised there was not really any safety doors or fire
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alarms or, like, sprinklers, to put out a fire, if there was one. and the cladding of course. yes, and the cladding. how long do you expect to be out of home, with your daughter? they said somewhere between two and four week. that is what they have said. the headlines on bbc news: around 4,000 people have been evacuated from five tower blocks on a camden council estate following news they have similar cladding to that in grenfell tower. in the grenfell tower investigation, police say the cladding and insulation there has failed safety tests a nd ma nslaug hter charges may follow. theresa may in brussels where she's told her fur theresa may in brussels where she's told herfurfor eu citizens in the uk falls below expectations. daesh
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offer. —— offer. we're going to have a look at the papers at 11:30pm but let's have a quick look at some of the front pages. the i leads on tonight's tower block evacuation in camden as the local authority orders urgent safety work. the telegraph quotes the council leader in the borough saying grenfell changes everything. tonight's development in camden came too late for the mirror. the paper focuses on how a fridge freezer started the grenfell blaze. the express labels theresa may's critics eu bullies as the prime minister announced details of the uk's offer to eu nationals after brexit. according to the times, the manchester suicide bomber used videos from youtube and other websites to help to build the device that killed 22 people. and the mail serialises a biography of the duchess of cornwall. european union leaders have given a cool response to theresa may's proposal to guarantee the rights of eu citizens living in the uk. the president of the european council, donald tusk, called the plans below his expectations and said they risked making the situation
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for eu citizens worse. under the plan, which the prime minister describes as serious and fair, people from eu countries who've lived here for five years would receive similar rights to british citizens. 0ur political editor laura kuenssberg reports from brussels. goodbye to the flag, goodbye to this town. a year ago today, britain decided this place would be written out of our future. but what the picture outside will look like for millions who've made their lives around the continent is now starting to become clear. we've set out what i believe is a serious offer, a fair offer, that will give the reassurance to eu citizens living in the uk. 0ne—to—one attempts to sell her plans. but citizens who've lived in the uk for five years can remain for good. and until we leave the union, others could come. but her eu rivals have plenty of questions. what about spaniards now in the uk
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with family abroad — or anyone else? is the cut—off date when the brexit process started, or the moment when we actually leave? not until monday will ministers at home be ready to give those answers. are you getting a clearer idea of the kind of brexit that the uk government wants? no. translation: it's vague. we want to be sure the rights of citizens are protected. that's important for us. there are a lot of our citizens who are not covered with mrs may's proposal. she might not have gone far enough here, but for many at home is theresa may's plan tough enough? it gives those 3 million eu citizens in the uk certainty about the future of their lives, and we want the same certainty for the more than i million uk citizens who are living in the european union. you've always said voters gave politicians a clear instruction to control immigration. but under your plans, for nearly another two years, as many europeans as they like can
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still come to live in the uk. for many voters, do you think that will really sound like taking back control? what voters voted for when they voted to leave the european union was to ensure that outside the european union, the united kingdom could establish our own rules on migration, on movement of people from the eu into the uk. away from home, there's relief that at last the uk's putting things on the table. but for europe's new power couple... translation: it's a good beginning, but not a breakthrough. we've understood the uk doesn't want to give eu citizens full rights. they, just as they left together, will decide together with the rest of the eu how they feel about that. my first impression is that the uk's offer is below our expectations. and that it risks worsening the situation of citizens. reservations shared by the opposition. who, in contrast, their leader
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is loving his time in the sun. we should not be negotiating about this. what we should be doing is unilaterally saying, as labour has said from day one after the referendum, that all eu nationals should be given permanent residence rights. concerns over these proposals reflects theresa may's three—way bind. a united opposing front here in brussels, clashing expectations among the public at home, and at her back inside her own party, different strands of thinking and demands. and even a leader at the peak of their powers would struggle to deal with all that. prime minister, did your proposals go far enough? relieved, perhaps, to be leaving. but relieved, perhaps, too, to have been away from hostility at home. but governing is doing, notjust fending off enemies. theresa may, at least today, has been doing that. laura kuenssberg, bbc news, brussels. police have charged darren 0sborne
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with terrorism—related murder and attempted murder after the attack at attempted murder after the attack at a mosque in finsbury park in lorca london in the early hours of monday morning. 0ne london in the early hours of monday morning. one man died at the scene and nine other people were taken to hospital. the 47—year—old from cardiff appeared in court this afternoon and was remanded in custody. 0ur correspondent daniel sa ndford custody. 0ur correspondent daniel sandford reports. darren 0sborne being driven off to prison after his first court appearance this afternoon. he's accused of the murder and attempted murder of a group of muslims leaving prayers. in the dock, with a detective on either side, he'd confirmed that he was 47 years old and said he has no address. he appeared to have a black eye. the prosecution said it was their case that darren 0sborne was motivated by extreme political views and a personal hatred of muslims. they said he had acted deliberately to kill, maim, injure and terrify as many people as he could. the attack, in which a hired white
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van drove into worshippers leaving prayers, happened in the very early hours of monday morning. nine people were taken to hospital, and 51—year—old makram ali died at the scene from multiple injuries. this diverse community has shown commendable restraint and self—control. today, in his mosque, friday prayers were full as they remembered makram ali, and the three people still in hospital, two of whom are in a critical condition. daniel sandford, bbc news. a former loyalist paramilitary commander has pleaded guilty to 200 terrorism offences, including five murders. gary haggarty admitted the crimes as part of a deal to give evidence against other senior members of the ulster volunteer force. he's due to be sentenced in september. from belfast crown court, our ireland correspondent chris page reports. during the troubles,
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the uvf took more lives than any other loyalist paramilitary organisation. it killed more than 500 people. one of its commanders was this man, gary haggarty. he's pleaded guilty to 200 offences. the prosecution case document runs to around 12,000 pages, covering 16 violent years from 1991. two of the five men who haggarty has admitted murdering were gary convie and eamon fox. the catholic workmen were shot dead at a building site 23 years ago. haggarty was an informer for the security forces at the time. eamon fox's son believes his father's death was preventable. i don't care about the uvf. they'll meet their maker some day. but it's the police, the people who are in authority to protect and serve, they didn't protect my family. they didn't protect this man's family. haggarty had a double life as an agent of the state and as a chief in a sectarian gang.
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he was from north belfast, where his group had a particularly murderous reputation. so this investigation into the uvf is set to go on to another level. in 2010, gary haggarty signed an agreement in which he offered to give evidence in court against other paramilitary leaders in exchange for a shorter sentence for his own crimes. he's the most senior loyalist ever to turn supergrass. it's understood up to 15 uvf members could be charged if prosecutors accept that the former commander's evidence is credible. the police intelligence officers who had contact with haggarty could also be brought to court. it is the examination of their conduct and their directions and their criminal liability which will now fall to be assessed. the detective who's leading the current inquiry says today was a breakthrough. this allows us now to move forward to the next phase of the investigation, where it is my intention and my hope
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that we will bring others who are responsible for those crimes before the courts as well. there'll be more waiting for the relatives of uvf victims. for now gary haggarty is in solitary confinement in high security prison. in court appearances in the future he may be in the witness box, not the dock. chris page, bbc news, belfast. let's return to the evacuation of the tower blocks in camden. this resident is unhappy about the lack of information about the evacuation. no one really came to tell me what was happening. my friend had to come here and actually warned me of what was happening. even though i live on the ground floor, number two, no one really ca m e the ground floor, number two, no one really came to warn me what was happening. i've only been here for about a month and a half because i used to live somewhere around there and my old house and stuff had
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stairs and it took a really long time for the council to move me to time for the council to mom bungalow. now that we're getting moved again for something i don't really know much about, it's just annoying. how did you find out about it? my friend had to come and tell me because i don't think anyone bothered to tell the people living on the ground floor they were getting evacuated. tell me, you mentioned your condition earlier, what condition do you have? mentioned your condition earlier, what condition do you have ?|j mentioned your condition earlier, what condition do you have? i have cerebral palsy, it is hard for me to move around really without my wheelchair. i don't know how we're going to cope tonight in the gym really. i saw, going to cope tonight in the gym really. isaw, like, lots and going to cope tonight in the gym really. i saw, like, lots and lots of people there. i still don't really know what's happening. 0ne one of the residents of the estate
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speaking to the bbc a short time ago. more on that in a moment but first the weather forecast with ben. after the exceptional heat earlier this week, the weather has returned to something a bit more like normal. just in time for the weekend. some sunshine today, most of that across southern and indeed northern parts of the country, as we can see from oui’ of the country, as we can see from our weather watchers in cornwall and the western isles of scotland. in between, a weather front very slow moving has brought a band of cloud and some patchy rain and this brandle system only very slowly progressing south and east as we go through the rest of tonight taking a lot of cloud and some patchy rain with it across england and wales, patchy rain fringe and into northern ireland as well, scotland with a largely dry night and a few showers. cool and fresh for many but a little on the humid side towards the south. the weekend is going to be a mixed affair, sunshine and showers, quite breezy, windy at times in the north
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and afairly breezy, windy at times in the north and a fairly cool feel to the weather. this is how we start saturday at 9am, some showers in western scotland and sunshine in eastern scotland but the wind is picking up by this stage. northern ireland not a bad start, some bright and sunny spells but north—west england into north wales, high ground spots with of rain the high ground spots with of rain and drizzle. similar in east anglia across the south—east and down across the south—east and down across the south coast of england, here of cloud, some patchy rain to start. word some dampeners in the airat start. word some dampeners in the air at glastonbury through the morning, things should brighten as the day goes on but that in itself could spark the shower into the afternoon, certainly not a washout, though. in england and wales through the day tomorrow, large areas of cloud, some patchy array, things brightening up a bit. northern ireland and scotland, sunny spells, but with gales in parts of scotland, quite unusual at this time of year. a cool day in the west, still in the 20s for norwich and london. through
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saturday night, the area of low pressure responsible for the strong winds across scotland will drift further eastwards and the winds will ease a touch during sunday, still quite blustery, the winds coming from a north—westerly direction so a cool feeling day across the country. fewer showers, more dry weather, some sunshine although the south staying quite cloudy for much of the still with news. i am martine croxall. 0ur headlines tonight: around 4000 people have been evacuated from five tower blocks on a camden council estate following news they have similar cladding to that in grenfell tower. i know it is difficult, but grenfell changes everything, and i don't believe we can take any risk with our residents' safety, and i have to put them first. police investigating the grenfell tower fire say the cladding and insulation there failed safety tests and they say manslaughter charges may follow. theresa may has defended her proposals on the status of eu citizens in the uk post brexit, after they were criticised
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by the european council president. a former loyalist paramilitary turned supergrass admits 200 offences including five murders. and the legendary cricket commentator henry ‘blowers' blofeld my dear old things, well, i'm afraid all good things come to an end. i've decided the time is right now to hang up my microphone. hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. but more are now on the evacuations in camden that were decided on and _ this iii—1:4; i have a enacted this evening. i have a resident on the phone. what has been happening with yukonite? mayhem. panic. worry. everything you can think of when you mm- 2,777
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$777 emit—”— evacuate, basically. how did you find out that you had to leave your home? all day we have had fire chiefs and council workers in the building. ithink chiefs and council workers in the building. i think around 7pm, i noticed a group of fire chiefs, and i had just dropped off my sister and mother. and that was when the whole thing unravel. people were finding out the news what was go to happen to them. we were told information very slowly. if the fire service has said to the council that safety in the blocks cannot be guaranteed, it is not safe to sleep at night, what choice do you think that the council officials have, but to move you? choice do you think that the council officials have, but to move you ?|j officials have, but to move you?” appreciate they are doing all they can for people's safety. but trying to pack for 2—4 weeks in such a
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short space of time is a lot. how many people have decided to stay put? a few people have said that they do not want to leave, that they will stay, and had been told, also, that they will eventually be forced out, somehow. iam that they will eventually be forced out, somehow. i am stuck with a disabled mother. where do i go? none of my family members have space in mouth? people, peopie, % mom, | peopie, % people, - i pregnant people, young people, and i saw a person in tears, earlier in the afternoon. and that was before the afternoon. and that was before the evacuation. what concerns did you have about your safety —— the safety of your home before today, and before the grenfell tower five? before the grenfell tower fire, at the council did everything to assure the council did everything teeseure the council did everything teesedre that the council did everything toeseure that our was
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there was a fire in an same. there was a fire in an adjacent building in 2015, and it did not spread. we were happy the council are dealing with it. yesterday, they were ripping down all the cladding, and that was when everybody subjugate worried, including myself. really worried. and then ii; 2 people including myself. really worried. and then 2553 2 people finding including myself. really worried. and then 2553 people finding out and then today, people finding out slowly. —— everybody started to get worried, including myself. we have been getting information from residents, news z‘kfl fire said to fire - said to speak out. the fire chiefs said to speak to the council to find out how we will go to evacuate. we know the building is unsafe. the leader of the council has acknowledged that it will be unsettling for everyone, and they want to deal with it as quickly as they can. she be lots of is filllfig113i;fiiifiilééfififigyfifiéiiim .. .. .. pressing filllfig113i;fiiifiilééfififiijfifiéiii... w w w pressing questions the most question
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yukonite? the most pressing question is who is responsible for this. —— the most pressing question for you tonight. who is responsible, in your view? the council. they signed off the work. they said they thought it was a regrettable companies are they did not have checks. that is not good enough. it could easily happen to thousands of other people across the country, could that? of course. and this is a national disaster. and you will be hearing about this for weeks to come, munster come. we appreciate you talking to us. we hope you get some clarity and a safe place to stay tonight. think give for talking to us. and now, it is time for the papers. —— thank you for talking to us. the second
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edition on a friday night. hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. with me are parliamentary journalist, tony grew and the entertainment writer, caroline frost. couldn't resist staying to this late hour. painfully. —— thankfully. tomorrow's front pages, starting with the i. the i leads on tonight's tower block evacuation in camden — as the local authority; the paper focuses on how a fridge freezer started the grenfell blaze. the express labels theresa may's critics "eu bullies" as the prime minister announced details of the uk's offer to eu nationals after brexit. according to the times, the manchester suicide bomber used videos from youtube and other websites to help to build the device that killed 22 people. and the mail serialises a biography of the duchess of cornwall. we will start with the i, who got
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the evacuation of the five evacuations onto its cover. urgent safety work needed after a building fails safety checks. as we've been hearing from several residents, this came as an almighty shock to this evening? yes. and where hearing and seeing images of cows, confusion, very little information being cleaned, as they say. your person there said that they heard everything from news channels, rather than the council. however, i would say it is, while chaotic and a huge exercise in how to house people would say it is, while chaotic and a hl shortercise in how to house people would say it is, while chaotic and a in short 313331 how do house people would say it is, while chaotic and a in short 313331 how do have 3 people would say it is, while chaotic and a in short 313331 how do have the ople 55 5553 55955 955? 55 155155555 55 55555 555'55 555? 55 15555535 of being warned. —— chaos, luxury of being warned. —— chaos, confusion. grenfell tower did not have that. i want people to keep this in perspective and know that they have the luxury of walking out
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with their bank safely, as much confusion as there is. and how well is anybody equipped to make that assessment? a little more detail about what the fire service is saying. they appear to be saying it is the saying. they appear to be saying it staying . the either r;’r‘; 55??? ii 555; 1; 25545; 75452552. . .. . a r?’r‘? 55??? 5e 5'5? 5 555455; 554555555. . .. . a very r5’r‘5 55??? 5e 5'55 5 5'55'555 55455555. . .. . a very 7% problem that they is a very specific problem that they have identified with these blocks, and that is why they are being evacuated, or police forces, sorry, fire services across the country can come to the conclusion about blogs across the country. and then we are talking about tens of thousands of people. —— about blocks. i know the pa rt of people. —— about blocks. i know the part of london where these blocks are. the fire service could have identified sally apart from the cladding in the specific buildings that have made them come to the conclusion that they are said. —— identify something. this was not an
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issue two weeks ago. but we had had g re nfell tower. issue two weeks ago. but we had had grenfell tower. precisely. but now they could be going into these blocks and finding other deficiencies with these buildings that cause them to be at risk. if that cause them to be at risk. if thatis that cause them to be at risk. if that is not the case, and it isjust do the cladding, then this could be much more serious. because we could see tower blocks across the country in the same situation. there was a meeting yesterday in camden where resins were able to express their concerns about the buildings, and the council has listened. the daily mirror looks at the cause of the fire at grenfell tower. kilis in our kitchen, it says, and pilots that a fridge started the fire. there is not a huge amount of detail on the front page, but it does show that this american fridge has metal on
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the back, which retards the fire. in the back, which retards the fire. in the uk, they have plastic backs. —— killers in our kitchen. it does raise questions about the safety of white goods. there have been concerns white goods. there have been concerns recently about tumble dryers. it seems that this fridge freezer has caused the fire at g re nfell tower. freezer has caused the fire at grenfell tower. but freezer has caused the fire at gre nfell tower. but it freezer has caused the fire at grenfell tower. but it is a broader issue about white goods. it isjust that the focus is again on them, not just because a grenfell tower. but there are so many building regulations, fire regulations, safety bodies, and yet there are so many problems around at the moment? i think people are just become a little more aware. my friends and i we re little more aware. my friends and i were to say that every week, the premise has been in recent times expressing sympathy. learning lessons. as tony said, the spotlight is currently on the fridges, freezers, and white appliances. they
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do discover a problem, this could be a withdrawal of 64,000 of these products. they have not been sick and 4000 fires, but this confluence of events has been so tragic and so widely talked about, and there have been all sorts of... —— 64,000. if you tell that inequalities in the housing system, or this or that, if it is not about that, it is about the white appliances. as your man said there from those towers, these will be talked about for weeks. in all sorts of descriptions. various people have different agendas, and will focus on different areas. in very quickly, in the daily telegraph, hospitals appear to be at risk. now the assessment will have too spread out to other buildings. yes. notjust to hospitals, but into universities, and schools. i'm sure many of us have seen this in the
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country of the last decade or so. do we spruce up a 1960 building? put in cladding on it. this could prove to bea cladding on it. this could prove to be a much bigger scale operation than had just been anticipated. and the costs could be astronomical. cou nty the costs could be astronomical. county council would have had to have had to privatise is over many other needs in a bar, deciding —— many other needs in their borough, deciding that this was that there had to act on immediately. the daily express, is a stand of two eu bullies, it says. how did you perceive these talks starting? did you... and the approach that the uk has taken? -- to eu. this was supposed to be the triumphant march after winning a huge mandate. the
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people are supposed to be behind. but neither of those things have happened. —— to be behind her. i don't see anything stone. . we have seen fudges. yesterday there was a concession on eu nationals being able to stay in the uk. —— i don't see anything set in stone, we have seen fudges. i'm not holding my breath over this. but brexcellent, tony says. where was this? page two. brexcelle nt. tony says. where was this? page two. brexcellent. the primers are leaving, letting eu national zen. brexcellent. the primers are leaving, letting eu nationalzen. —— the prime minister retreating. —— nationals in. even if the government wanted to expel these people, it would not know where to begin. i am
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not sure her offer is generous unless she is wishing to quadruple the budget for the home office to moderate the people coming in. something about the daily express headline is that some of this reporting is sort of drifting into the world of fantasy. the prime minister's hand has been strengthened. no it has not. she has gone into the european council weaken. immeasurably weakened. she we nt weaken. immeasurably weakened. she went to the country for a mandate for her hard brexit. she lost her majority. she is going to have a lot of trouble getting any measure through the house of commons. and thatis through the house of commons. and that is before any conversation that is beforeany comel’ae-hfifl! about. house of lords. sheg inl she she i she she is 1 she she is - she because 5 -ie
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european union, that is playing with statistics and away we were told not to do so at school. we there was a massive vote in the direction of softening the
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