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the northern city overrun by so—called islamic state three years ago. but the landmark victory against the militants has led to the deaths of thousands of civilians, and driven almost a million people from their homes. president trump has faced criticism from members of his own republican party, after revealing he proposed setting up a joint cyber security unit with russia. mr trump, who hasjust returned home from the 620 summit, said he had asked president putin about establishing an impenetrable unit to combat election hacking. a ceasefire backed by the us and russia in south—western syria has held throughout the day. activists monitoring the area said there had been no clashes or air strikes. several rebel groups confirmed it had been calm. now on bbc news, the week in parliament. hello and welcome to
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the week in parliament. time to ditch it or keep it? what should be done with the limit on pay rises in the public sector? the low pay epidemic is a threat to our economic stability. it is not fair to bankrupt our economy because that leads to people losing theirjobs and losing their homes. the government's new chums are the democratic unionist party of northern ireland. but one observer warns them, watch out. this is a great moment for them and nobody can take it away but there are many snares and many responsibilities, particularly they do have to make some concessions to bring back power—sharing devolution, which is overwhelmingly in their interest. and it's a hung parliament with close votes expected.
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ties could occur. but it's the other sort of ties that are most concerning male mstust at the moment. i won't be taking interventions from anyone who's not wearing a tie. do you think that there is a risk of a slippery slope which might lead that member to refuse to take interventions from members who are sartorially challenged in other ways? but first, have we reached last orders? is the government about to call time on austerity? the foreign secretary borisjohnson and his cabinet colleague michael gove let it be known they think the cap limiting public sector pay rises to 1% should now be lifted. but the chancellor philip hammond said government policy had not changed and it was vital to keep financial discipline in place. at prime minister's question time, the labour leaderjeremy corbyn said the public sector pay cap was causing real hardship. 6 million workers already earn less than the living wage. what does the prime minister think that tells us about seven years of a conservative government and what it has done to the living
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standards of those people on whom we all rely to get our public services, our health services delivered to us? let me remind the right honourable gentleman of what happens when you don't deal with the deficit. it's not a theoretical issue. let's look at those countries that failed to deal with it. in greece, where they haven't dealt with the deficit... yes. what is... what did we see? what did we see with failure to deal with the deficit? spending on the health service cut by 36%. that doesn't help nurses or patients. can she take some tough choices and instead of offering platitudes, offer some real help and real support for those in work, young people who deserve better and deserve to be given more optimism, rather than greater inequality? prime minister. we actually now see the proportion
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of people in absolute poverty is at record lows. i know that the right honourable gentleman has taken to calling himself a government in waiting. well, we all know what that means. waiting to put up taxes, waiting to destroy jobs, waiting to bankrupt our country, we will never let it happen. in a later debate, a former tory chancellor weighed in. if she were to give way to this week's lobbying on this subject, it would be a political disaster because the government would be accused of a u—turn and a surrender and it would set off a wave of pay claims across the entire public sector, which the opposition are obviously looking forward to taking part in, if they can provoke them. it would also possibly be an economic disaster. in the exceedingly fine city
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of norwich, we have three nhs trusts, two local authorities and a teaching hospital, thousands of public sector workers, who contribute to our economy and who, at present, are struggling to make ends meet. surely this government must understand that austerity is dying on its feet, invest in these people, lift the public sector pay cap and you will invest in norwich's local economy. it is a win—win for everyone. in many services, workers have received additional pay to the 1% national increase. teachers had an average pay rise of 3.3% in 2015-2016. more than half of nurses and other nhs staff had an average increase of over 3% in 2016. liz truss. and incidentally, pmqs is now available as a podcast, when you can listen to the whole of the session. just search for "bbc prime minister's questions" in your podcast app.
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talks have broken down over the future of northern ireland, it's a sentence with a very familiar ring, but it's happened again this week. the dup leader arlene foster, here seen on one of her many recent visits to downing street, declared that she was "disappointed" that talks to get the northern ireland assembly going again ended without success. stormont was suspended in january following a row over the costs of a heating scheme in northern ireland. a new factor in the protracted talks to get devolution re—started has been the deal struck at westminster between the minority conservative government and the group of ten dup mps. the democratic unionist party is also the biggest party at stormont. the northern ireland secretary spoke to mps about the breakdown in talks. but i am clear that the return of inclusive devolved government by a power—sharing executive is what would be profoundly in the best interests
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of northern ireland. does he think there is a role for a new independent, impartial international perhaps, chairman of the talks, with fresh eyes and a new mandate? in the past that too has played an important means of shifting things. the speaker and indeed the secretary of state will no my other commitment to devolution. but some point there is not going to be a realisation that the pact could possibly be dead. it is deceased of life and it is no more. well, the "confidence" and "supply" agreement that allows the dup to prop up theresa may's government continues to cause moments of resentment in the commons, chiefly from labour mps. in particular there's anger at the £1 billion cash sum that's been given to northern ireland as part of the deal. jonathan ashworth. mr speaker, i want to talk about the spending plans of 2017 where he can find a billion
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for northern ireland but nothing for nurses in england. the prime minister found £1 billion to keep her own job, why can't she find the same amount of money to keep nurses and teachers in theirjob, who, after all, serve all of us? then came this attack on the dup at equality questions on thursday. dup representatives have described homosexuality as repulsive, wrong, vile, immoral, offensive and obnoxious. does the minister agree that it is these hateful remarks themselves that are repulsive, wrong, vile, immoral, offensive and obnoxious and they should have no place in politics, let alone in government? the dup once ran a campaign called save ulster from sodomy. isn't it time to save ulsterfrom bigotry? the views that she has set out are absolutely not ones that i agree with or indeed i think are shared by this house. so, some moments there from commons questions on thursday.
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well, with me in the studio now is lord bew, who is professor of irish politics at queens university belfast and an author of many books and articles on the political history of ireland and northern ireland. lord bew, welcome to the programme. thank you. firstly, talking about the dup, bit of an unknown quantity on this side... yes. ..of the irish sea. why is it that the dup have now largely superseded the ulster unionists as the main party of unionism in northern ireland? well, the dup began in the bible belt to some degree, fundamentalist religious areas of northern ireland and dr paisley was the leading figure in the late 60s, 70s, 80s. he'd struck many blows against the ulster unionist party, but you're quite right, it's only in recent years that they have become the hegemonic force and got the ulster unionist party really on its knees. and is that because sort of soft unionism, shall we say, maytriach unionism is largely just evaporated ? it's more complicated than that because the dup has adopted
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many of the policies, effectively the policy of power—sharing with sinn fein, originally pioneered by david trimble. and also the new dup person, in the old days, the free presbyterians of dr paisley‘s own church were the caders, who organised elections and things like that. in the last... since the good friday agreement, the new oxford university press study of the dup shows only one in seven new members are actually free presbyterians. a blistering attack earlier this week. are the dup sort of proud of the fact that they are so much a non—liberal party on social issues? well, they could defend themselves by saying their position isn't different from the german chancellor, because they sit in a parliament which has legislated for gay marriage and they've accepted that, while they themselves are not in that place. but it is true that the dup has opinions in this area which are different than that of the mainstream british parties. no question about that. it is also true that,
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to go back to the younger members, jeff dudgeon, who is the great figure of gay rights for northern ireland, the one who really fought when there was really intense discrimination against gay people, played a heroic role. jeff dudgeon says we talk to the younger dup people, they're actually quite relaxed about gay marriage. so even there, there is actually a transition going on. now, the dup agreement with the conservative government, i suppose, cuts both ways within northern ireland. irish nationalists, no doubt pleased that a large sum of money is coming northern ireland's way, but not happy that a british government is siding so firmly with one side of the ulster divide. so i presume it's seen both ways? yes, the point about that is, of course, even in the last few days we've seen the irish government weighing in on sinn fein‘s side on the irish language issue and the truth of the matter is that both governments, since the agreement, indeed in winning the agreement, tony blair felt it necessary to be very strongly pro—unionist, have had to take up these different languages and that's part of the game.
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so it's a difficult, fluid situation and on both sides, really neither government, if you take the whole matter in the round, actually could be, in all honesty, could be in any circumstance neutral in some grand sense, of course so. both have a responsibility to behave with a certain basic fairness and both of them have tried to do that and still try to do that. now, there's no doubt at all about it. the dup must‘ve enjoyed their time in the sun in the past two weeks in london and belfast. yes, they have and i think this is a danger. it is understandable, they have been through... politics these days, everything changes so quickly. in the latter half of last year, they are probably, in most people's eyes, to blame for the irish language question becoming so difficult in northern ireland because of the short—sighted attitude they took. again, the whole question of the heating scandal,
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these things were not well handled. they had a very bad assembly election, partly as a result. suddenly, a few months later, they have an astonishingly successful general election and in which it's not so much what happens here, it's the fact that their vote went up so much and sinn fein in the assembly election was only 1000 votes behind them. it's 53,000 behind them in the general election, in the same little space. so they suddenly find themselves having beeen down, they're up, and the danger is when you are up, you think i'm wonderful and you don't take a self—critical attitude towards the way you operate politically. and you don't realise the need for great care because there are many snares now that face them. this is a great moment for them and nobody can take it away but there are many snares and many responsibilities, particularly they do have to make some concessions to bring back power—sharing devolution, which is overwhelmingly in their interest. let's move on now to power—sharing. there didn't seem to be a lot of progress made in the talks to get the stormont assembly restarted, despite all the parties claiming
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that they want to see the stormont assembly restarted. are we heading for direct rule from westminster? in the very short—term, we have a form of indirect direct rule and we've already had it with certain key pieces of housekeeping carried out by westminster. but you're not really going to know until the autumn and there are so many imponderables there. for example, the whole question of what is going on in irish politics and sinn fein‘s role there, and how it perceives what it does in northern ireland and it is very hard to calculate, but how they perceive, how their actions in northern ireland will play on their fortunes in the south. so there are things that... both parties don't...are in a place they didn't expect to be. sinn fein did not expect the dup huge vote, which just characterised the general election, which means calling for a border poll, a big sinn fein policy, is meaningless now. so they're in a place where some of their policies are falling apart. and the dup also in a place where they didn't expect to be because of the outcome of the westminster election generally.
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they need to think it through, both of them. do you think sinn fein genuinely wants to see the stormont assembly restarting? that's very, very hard to answer. but i would say that on most days, you would assume that for the public opinion, the irish public to have a good opinion of sinn fein. it's better for them to be operating stormont. the caveat to that is that brexit, because it so threatens the irish economy and tens and tens of thousands ofjobs are at risk as a function of brexit and also, by the way, the position of the european union is currently in negotiation. the combination of these positions is such that there is more hostility towards britain in general, notjust the dup and therefore sinn fein can get away with a more anti—british stance than they could have before brexit. that's a simple fact of the matter, that it has definitely increased the anti—british sentiment. it has not at all reduced pro—british sentiment in the unionist community, but it has definitely increased anti—british sentiment among even the softest type of catholic nationalists all over the island. some thoughts on the politics of northern ireland.
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now, a look at one or two of the other stories around westminster this week. a minister has faced shouts of "shame on you!" in westminster hall from campaigners for the waspi movement, that is, women against state pension inequality — those who say that women coming up to age 60 were given too little notice of the change in their official pension age. the 2011 pensions act meant that no woman affected by the 2011 act would have to wait more than 18 months, from the date that they might have been expecting their pension, and for some, the changes are much less. the government must do all we can to assist everyone affected in retraining and employment, and provide support... shame on you! that commitment to provide support is clear, unequivocal and ongoing. thank you. shameful! order! the emotional aftermath of the horrific fire at grenfell tower. in the commons, a housing minister is close to tears as he talks
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about his meetings with residents in north kensington. hearing the harrowing accounts of survivors has been the most humbling and moving experience of my life. the families that i've met... have been through unimaginable pain. this is a tragedy that should never have happened. forget free movement of labour. what about free movement of fish? the government says it is pulling out of the london fisheries convention, a first step towards uk withdrawal from the eu common fisheries policy. there's reaction in the lords. clearly, we need to negotiate now with our partners and friends in europe so that we have, as i say, a sustainable fishing industry, and also for the first time, we will have the ability to decide who can fish in our waters. and fish shoals can sometimes move for hundreds of miles, and indeed, our own fishermen sometimes fish up towards the north
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of russia, right down to southern portugal. there is no point in making just a unilateral declaration on this, there has to be really thoughtful, detailed discussions on the future. the bottom line is, we have very, very few vessels involved in this. they are not properly centrally coordinated. we have seen a number of countries involved saying, well, the hell with what you're saying, we're coming anyway. we will be made a laughing stock if we apply some rules and cannot enforce them. lord west. first, the wigs worn by the commons clerks were abolished. now, could another long—standing custom be ditched ? deep controversy has been stirred by the announcement of the speaker, john bercow, that he has no problem with a male member of parliament not wearing a tie in the chamber. whatever next? traditionalists have not been happy. the stakes were raised considerably when a minister made these remarks in the commons on monday. let mejust, before i go any further, say something i should have said at the outset, madam deputy speaker. there has been some debate over
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recent days in this chamber about sartorial standards, as you will know, madam deputy speaker. i ought to say, as a matter of courtesy, i will not be taking interventions from anyone who is not wearing a tie... laughter um, on whatever side of the house they sit. but as well as courtesy, i believe in generosity, and anyone that is sartorially challenged, or inadequate, i will provide a tie for. i do have a tie here, which i'm prepared to... and of course, i exclude from that lady members of the house, who i would hardly expect to dress in either my tie, one of their own or anyone else‘s. prompting this reaction on thursday. you were not in the chair on monday, and may not have heard the minister of state for transport, the member for south holland and the deepings, who said that he was not going to take interventions from anybody
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who is not wearing a tie. now... given... given your pronouncements on this matter, mr speaker, do you think that there is a risk of a slippery slope which might lead that member... to refuse to take interventions from members who are sartorially challenged in other ways, such as wearing a gaudy tie or a garish waistcoat? if you ask me, i think that ties have it, the ties have it. oh, well. celebrations were held on the isle of man this week to mark tynwald day. it is the annual open—air meeting of the manx parliament, and this year, lawmakers were marking a 600th anniversary, as steve rodan, president of the tynwald, explained to me on a rather bad line from the island's capital, douglas. it was in 1417 that the customary law was written down, and that's the earliest manx
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statute, and it sets out in great detail how the tynwald day ceremony should be conducted. and what is fascinating is that even in 11117, it was being described as the constitution of old time. so, it was referring to the viking establishment of tynwald. and it said where the lord of man should sit on the hill, in open array with the squires round about, the barons and the clergy, and the people round about to hear the laws proclaimed for the isle of man. and constitutionally, we do exactly the same today. the laws of the isle of man from the previous 12 months are read out in summary, in english and in the manx language. if that isn't done, they cease to take effect. is there are a lot of interest from the population of the isle of man in the manx parliament? er, there is. i mean, we have the same problem of apathy amongst younger people, as you do everywhere.
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but we were one of the very first places to give 16 and 17—year—olds the vote. we did that ten years ago. and we have got quite an interest in schools in our parliamentary system, as well as, i may say, we were the very first parliament to give women the vote back in 1881, long, long before westminster. so, there is one of the key differences. so, we are a blend, a happy blend, we think, of ancient and modern practice. but what have you got to lose? i mean, the isle of wight is part of england, quite happily, what have you got to lose by becoming part of england? yes, we don't send a member to westminster. instead, we have our own tynwald, our own parliament, 1000 years old, we can do our own thing. working very closely, of course, with the authorities in london, with whom we have a very good, constant dialogue.
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but we are left to do our own thing, every penny that is spent in the isle of man is raised in the isle of man, we don't get any grant assistance from london in any shape orform, far less from the european union. we go our own way and do our own thing, and we are very proud of it. we've done it for 1000 years and i hope we will continue to do so, whatever happens to the uk in respect of europe. steve rodan, thanks very much indeed forjoining us on the week in parliament. a pleasure. politics, isle of man style. election news now, because campaigning is well under way in the latest by—election in the house of lords. this report from claire gould. it's by—election time in the upper house, following the retirement of the crossbench hereditary peer lord walpole. although most of the hereditaries lost their seats in the blair reforms of 1999, some were permitted to stay. vacancies are filled by by—elections. ten candidates are standing in this contest. according to ladbrokes, this week,
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the early front runners are, at 2—1, the businessman and charity worker lord darling, followed at 3—1 by lord mostyn, who says he can bring some youth to the house, being only 32 years old! ranked outsider at this stage is lord cadman, at 100—1 — the only candidate not to submit a supporting statement. here is a full list of those standing. 0nly crossbench hereditaries can vote in this election. there are about 30 of them eligible this time. voting takes place onjuly the 18th, with the result announced the following day. claire gould reporting. now, with a look at what's been happening in the wider world of politics this week, here's alex partridge —— here is a full list of those standing. 0nly crossbench hereditaries can vote in this election. there are about 30 of them eligible this time. voting takes place onjuly the 18th, with the result announced the following day. claire gould reporting. now, with a look at what's been happening in the wider world of politics this week, here's alex partridge
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with our countdown. canadian prime ministerjustin trudeau was in edinburgh this week to receive an honorary doctorate, and even tried a scottish accent. british columbia. where we can be free and no man owns the fish. it's football's transfer season, which allowed labour's angela rayner to have some fun at the expense of the government and their deal with the dup. when arlene foster got £1 billion, she must be the most expensive right—winger since cristiano ronaldo. european commission president jean—claudejuncker was a bit upset at the low number of meps who turned out to hear the prime minister of malta speak. you are ridiculous. in a week dominated at westminster by talk of ties, the best of the week was surely the dup‘s jim shannon and his stars and stripes number, worn to mark the 11th ofjuly. and finally, congratulations to conservative backbencher jacob rees—mogg, who welcomed his
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sixth child this week. the baby boy is named sixtus dominic boniface christopher rees—mogg. alex partridge. and that's it for this programme. over the next seven days, we should get to know who will be chairing westminster‘s all—importa nt committees, after some hard —fought internal election battles. so, dojoin alicia mccarthy for the next week in parliament. and from me, keith macdougall, it's now time to say a very final farewell. goodbye. hello there.
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the weekend's weather brought us plenty of warm sunshine. there was a bit of rain across northern and western parts of the country. but, as we head through much of the coming week, things are about to change. here is a scene sent in from sunday afternoon, southend—on—sea, in essex. now, through the course of this coming week, the weather is much more changeable. there'll be some rain for many of us, at times, and things won't be quite as warm. so cooler conditions particularly overnight, you'll be pleased to hear, if you found it fairly uncomfortable for sleeping in recent nights. now, during monday, we have that low pressure and frontal systems not far away from the uk, bringing some showery rain to many parts of the country. through the day on monday, one frontal system brings a bit of rain to the east of scotland, north—east of england, as well. that should ease away through the day, and then for all of us it is a day of sunny spells and scattered showers, and across eastern england, in particular, some of the showers heavy and thundery, bringing a lot of heavy rain, and some hail and thunder as well.
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northern ireland, though, having a dryer day, with some sunshine into the west of scotland. eastern scotland staying fairly cloudy and damp. then as we head our way south across england and wales, some heavy showers, especially towards the east. could catch one or two heavy showers almost anywhere across england and wales. the south—west probably having a dryer interlude, and the south—east still some torrential downpours bringing some sub—surface—water flooding. now, there is the chance that the showers could stay away from wimbledon. so a largely dry day, but there is the chance that we could see some showers interrupting play, i think, during the afternoon. then, heading through into the evening hours, those heavy showers in the east eventually start to ease away. thunderstorms dying down overnight, but then we'll see the next batch of rain moving in from the west. we could see 26 degrees in the south—east. tuesday, then, starts off not quite as high and mighty as recent nights, but still 15 or 16 degrees across the south—east. and then, as we move through the day, this showery rain from central parts of england and wales moves eastwards. still some dryer weather, though, for the north—west of scotland, into northern ireland, too. more persistent rain works into the south—west of england later on in the afternoon.
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temperatures 15 to 21 degrees, reasonably fresher than it has been. through into wednesday, then, that rain works its way eastwards. so some rain, some welcome rain, for a time in the south—east. that should clear away, and then actually many of us having a dryer day with a light breeze. certainly fresher than it has been for the time of year. moderate rain on wednesday, with a light breeze, and temperatures around 15 to 22 degrees. taking you through towards the end of the week, we will see some rain in the north—west, and temperatures continue to be not as hot as they have been. bye for now. welcome to bbc news, broadcasting to viewers in north america and around the globe. my name is duncan golestani. our top stories: iraq's prime minister says mosul has been liberated, ending three years of occupation by so—called islamic state. back from the g20 summit, president trump says he'd like to set up a joint cyber security unit with russia.
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