tv Outside Source BBC News July 17, 2017 9:30pm-10:01pm BST
thank you forjoining me. our lead story is the second round of brexit talks have begun. the uk has been outlining for key areas, including citizen's rights. the eu is asking for more information. we need to examine and compare our respective positions in order to make good progress. following the immigration crackdown in america, we have a special report on the families with no criminal record who are being split up in the process. california's governor is fighting to retain a tax that punishes heavy polluters. it is part of efforts to meet the terms of the paris climate deal, even though president trump is ticking the us out of it. we will be hearing from roger feder. he has been speaking to the bbc about his ambition to become number one in the world. now, the bbc investigation into the
trump administration's immigration crackdown. donald trump came to office promising to deport criminals who were in the us illegally. the panorama programme has found that thousands of undocumented immigrants without criminal records are being targeted and that families are being split apart. hilary andersson is the reporter on the story. these are the children. one morning in may when they were getting ready for school in their home in san diego, border patrol officers came and arrested both of their parents. they came up to my mum and told her she was arrested and put handcuffs on her. we we re arrested and put handcuffs on her. we were shocked. we alljust sat down and cried. their parents have been living in america illegally for 21 yea rs. been living in america illegally for
21 years. border patrol initially suspected them of involvement in international human trafficking, but later dropped the accusation. the pa rents later dropped the accusation. the pa re nts ru n later dropped the accusation. the parents run a smart ice cream business and have no criminal record. the first night alone, the children all moved their beds in the same room for comfort. the older brother now does his best to run the household. the border guards knew they were leaving a teenager in charge of children. the asked me, are you francisco? it can take care of them. the lefties here with the full family's yes. president trump came to office on a promise to criminalise people for deportation. we have bad people here and we will get them out. in his first 100 days, 41,000 illegals or suspected illegals were arrested. most were
criminals but there was a massive spike in people who were non—criminals being arrested, who are undocumented. supporters say they are rightly enforcing the law. nobody wants families to split. the way to ensure that is, if you are a family, is not to come to this country illegally. sometimes the sins of the family are visited on the sand and that is unfortunate, but the government did not create them since. they went to visit the pa rents them since. they went to visit the parents and the detention centre. their mother has been released on bail but both parents face possible deportation, as do 11 million undocumented immigrants in america. let's bring in our correspondent. help me understand this. donald trump said he would deport criminals but was he not also saying he was
quick to crack down more broadly on undocumented immigrants? he said that throughout the campaign. in other interviews she, when asked when anyone who was illegal would have to go, she said yes. people at the time said this was not practical and you could not deport 15 million or whatever the number is of undocumented immigrants in the us. what we have seen is the trump administration at least trying to deport as many as possible, or at least arrest as many as possible anywhere in the country. the obama administration was focusing on the border and people with criminal records. the hill on twitter is saying trump has the lowest approval ratings of any president in 70 yea rs. ratings of any president in 70 years. iam ratings of any president in 70 years. i am wary of these approval ratings because donald trump com pletely ratings because donald trump completely foxed the polls as well when he won last year, didn't he?
right, most of the polls had a consensus that he was going to lose the popular vote by several percentage points, which is what happened. where the real errors were in polling, we did not think he was going to be able to rent pennsylvania and wisconsin. he managed to win that way. 36% approval rating is remarkably low at this point in the presidency. it does not mean anything until republicans decide it mean something, offers holders decide it will cost them theirjobs when they run for real action next year when we get to the general election in 2021 and he is trying to run for a real election. it is about whether he is liked more than his opponent and not whether he is loved over all. a quick word about health care. it is made in america week at the white house. is there a health care week planned any time soon? at the made in america week. i do not know. republicans keep trying to get something passed. donald... he is
out of operation for the next week or so out of operation for the next week orso and out of operation for the next week or so and cannot vote, so they have pushed off any thought for the week or so or longer. that shows how narrow the edge that this report is on. one vote that they were counting on, if it does not show up, back and threw everything into chaos. as you are here, i will throw this question at you. this viewer would like to ask you, can you talk us through the impact of america having a more closed border policy, the economic impact, what are the arguments? from a business standpoint, growing up in texas, the businesses that i lived around, the sort immigration was a boom. they thought it lowered the cost of labour and allowed them to create products more cheaply. the actually liked having immigration. if you go to someplace like midwest where blue—collarjobs, industrial jobs, were being taken by immigrant workers, they would have a very
different perspective and that is that immigration was hiding them. it was driving down the wages and affecting them. immigration can have affecting them. immigration can have a very specific harm for a lot of people, while generally the market is better for it. people, while generally the market is betterfor it. it people, while generally the market is better for it. it drives down the cost of goods. if you have a job in manufacturing, and can be very painful if it is affected by immigration. we have not got you out yet. we will keep trying. if you ever have questions, we are right here in the bbc news room surrounded by experts on all of the main stories we are covering and connecting you to the bbc news rooms around the world, too. let's talk about roger feder. he won wimbledon for the eighth time. it has never been done before by a man. he has won two of the last three grand slams. he did not play in the french open, that is 100% return. he is not the world number one. that is andy murray. he would like to be, though.
he has been talking to the bbc. murray. he would like to be, though. he has been talking to the bbci think it is going to be a three or four weight race with me and rafer, when andy is going to drop his world number one ranking. if andy wins again, we have to win again. if he sta rts again, we have to win again. if he starts dropping points, we will get there. i hope it is me and not nadal. it would mean a lot for me to get back to number one. i was trying to explain, have not thought about ita to explain, have not thought about it a lot yet. i have to speak to the tea m it a lot yet. i have to speak to the team and decide how much i am going to chase it for the near future. team and decide how much i am going to chase it for the nearfuture. i might get to number one 11 time in my career, or is the goal finish the year as number one. for me it makes no difference being world number one for one week or ending the year number one at this stage in my career. they have to have a meeting and discussion with my team about that in the coming weeks. our favourite question is how long you are going to play favourite question is how long you are ' favourite question is how long you
are going to play for? you have won two grand slams since she turned 35. in the 19705, ken two grand slam5 since she turned 35. in the 19705, ken did that. does it appeal to you the thought of putting your expertise, your experience against guys who have your age? how it feels to play against player5 have my age? it feels also quite different. i love the times when i came on tourand different. i love the times when i came on tour and i played the people from the video games and tv and here iam thing from the video games and tv and here i am thing against them. now i am playing, i am on the opposite side. iam the playing, i am on the opposite side. i am the guy they know from tv and now. . . i am the guy they know from tv and now... i don't know, it is quite different. different from what it used to be. i am enjoying myself and i like used to be. i am enjoying myself and ilike to, used to be. i am enjoying myself and i like to, you know, guide them and help them along the way. if they have any advice they see, i'm happy to give because it is so important
to give because it is so important to share experience and knowledge about the game and game will always move on and always be bigger than any athlete. am happy i can be in the sport for as long as i can delete might have been. hopefully it will be a while. the reason he was saying i am not sure if i will go for world number one is that he mi55ed for world number one is that he missed the french open not because of injury, butjust to rest. he made the decision that a full season would be too much on his body will stop he is picking and choosing more but it is harder to be number one then. let's talk about the women's football to an and it started yesterday in the netherlands. ben is helping us cover this all the way through. he has been telling me about the format. for the first time ever, 16 teams competing in the netherlands at the euro 2017 finals. for groups play over the next few weeks of group matches and the top two go into the quarterfinals. the quarterfinals, 5emifinal5 and the final. important date, sunday six of august.
we had the first aim yesterday. how have the dutch taken to the turn it? we watched that opening game. the netherlands one by one goal to nill. the dutch are getting really behind it. here it utrecht, which is one of seven ho5t cities, people are geting behind it. lots of orange. a sea of orange. there is a fan zone up the road from here. we were there watching at that fan zone. when that goal went in, drinks were spilt, drinks were had. that dancing continued. i noticed on my way to work, i saw several adverts for this and coverage on the tv. this is all evidence that it is getting more promotion now. and the
competition is getting closer and closer. european countries are getting more competitive. domestic league, italy is seeing more professional clu bs league, italy is seeing more professional clubs taking part. one tea m professional clubs taking part. one team is about to start up a team. it is competitive in france and we know all about england with the women's super league. it is getting more competitive, more tv coverage and read your coverage. as that goes through the process of this to an end, the profile willjust keep on rising. cycling next. the rest day but chris, who is in the yellow jersey was talking about yesterday. it was a dramatic stage. he lost one minute on the road before getting back to his rivals. it was a close run thing. you're geeky is talking about it. i was standing on the side of my road. -- european is talking about it. i thought that was potentially game over for me.
about it. i thought that was potentially game over for men about it. i thought that was potentially game over for me. if you go all the way to paris, will you look back and think that was the day idid not look back and think that was the day i did not win but i saved it. let's get to paris first and then i can think about that. if i just get to paris first and then i can think about that. if ijust reflect on yesterday, that was a huge save. that was really touch and go if i was going to make it back. if i did not reach that front group, i do not believe i would have made it to the finish line in yellow. it has never been this close in the history of the tour. great for us but what is it like for you? it is stressful but we knew that this year was going to be the closest fought battle i have ever done and the biggest challenge of my career to date. it is shaping up of my career to date. it is shaping up to be that. was it more enjoyable getting the yellow jersey up to be that. was it more enjoyable getting the yellowjersey back than getting the yellowjersey back than getting at in the first place? of course it was a disappointment to lose it in the pyrenees when i had a bad day. i am feeling better and
better. hopefully that means with time, icame better. hopefully that means with time, i came in really fresh and hopefully going into the third week now, that'll put me in better shape than some of my rivals. bbc radio five live interview there. full coverage on the sports app, five live and here on bbc news channel and world news. in a couple of minutes time, a report to play you. it is about a memorial forest that has been planted close to amsterdam's airport to remember those who lost their lives on the ﬂight. all this year, hull is celebrating being the uk city of culture. nine places in the city are getting listed heritage status. among them is the humber bridge. it was built
in1981. one of is the humber bridge. it was built in 1981. one of the most spectacular bridges in the uk. our arts correspondent has been looking at it. the humber bridge. for years, the longest single span bridge in the longest single span bridge in the world. nowjoining westminster abbey, buckingham palace and ten downing st as a grade one listed building. a place of architectural and historic interest. it gives me great pleasure to unveil this plaque and to clear the humber bridge open. the new honour comes exactly 36 yea rs the new honour comes exactly 36 years to the day of the official opening. they cost more than £100 million. at the other end of the scale, something from the very year the queen was born. this art and of all public convenience from 1926. these pilots on the hull waterfront have been chosen because they were designed to cater for men and women, very rare at the time and most of the original fittings have very rare at the time and most of
the originalfittings have been preserved. what were they like inside? it felt like they were great to listed, to be fair. impressive? they could do with a clean, i reckon. i think it is marvellous. hull has always been known by most people were only salesmen and relations go. perhaps the kind of people who meet in toilets. speaking of philip larkin, the house where he lived for more than 18 years and wrote some of his most famous poems. walking around in the park should feel better than work. the lake, the sunshine, the grass to lie on. and the hope here is that hull vista rate will have an important role to play in its future. it did lose a lot of good buildings during the second world war. things are now on the up and up and people are more
optimistic. this state is that we are getting from the listed buildings, grade one, is marvellous. the humber bridge was only designed to have a life span of 120 years but now its place in history is secured. we are live at the bbc news room. our lead story is that the second round of brexit thaksin started in brussels. four main areas have been outlined, and dozens rights and the divorce bill. we talk an awful lot about donald trump ruling america out of the paris climate deal. at the time of the announcement, several us states came out and said they are going to stick to the terms of that deal anyway. one of them is california. one of the measures it wa nts to
california. one of the measures it wants to use to meet those times is to extend what is called a cap and trade programme, essentially taxes businesses for putting. the man who is promoting it hard is governor jerry brown. james cook is with us from los angeles to tell us more about it. hello, james. i associate california with being forward—thinking. is there much resista nce forward—thinking. is there much resistance to what he is suggesting? yes, there is some resistance and comes from both sides. resistance from some businesses who are concerned about the impact on industry and resistance, more so in some regards, from environmentalists. not all, some are on board but others think that too many concessions have been given to the businesses. the governor of california is trying to find the middle ground to get this bill passed in the senate in sacramento, the state capital and the assembly there. what is interesting is the
extent to which jerry brown, there. what is interesting is the extent to whichjerry brown, who has been around in us politics for decades, is emerging. his state is emerging as the defect to challenge to the trump administration when it comes to climate. forging a com pletely comes to climate. forging a completely different path. he recently travelled, jerry brown, to china to meet with the leadership they talk about reducing emissions and lots of other countries around the world are looking to california. at the same time, the trump administration is pulling out of the paris climate agreement. california, the most populous state in the united states, and the us as a whole, going in different directions. it is an irony here. i have met lots of republican voters who have real against too much centralised power and here we have the devolution of the american response being driven bya the american response being driven by a policy of the republican president. that is fair and a good
but states rights are at the heart of what a of republicans believe in. people are more forthcoming and forthright about those rights when it suits them than when it doesn't. do not forget that within california, with a 30% of californians voted for donald trump. a significant proportion of the state, particularly in rural parts of california, where they are fans of california, where they are fans of mrtrump and of california, where they are fans of mr trump and his approach and not fa ns of mr trump and his approach and not fans of the approach ofjerry brown and what they would regard it an overweening, far too oppressive approach from more on the left wing. jerry brown would say that is nonsense and this bill is about something much wider than all of that. it is about protecting the error that californians read and the air people outside californians breathe outside. california wants to reduce its emissions by 40% between now and 2030. without this bill going through, it is going to be
very difficult to see how they will do that. one thing i am wondering, we are talking about how businesses pull it. you are city, where you are sitting now, has thousands and thousands of cars all driven by individuals pushing out the small bits of pollution. our air costs been putting on the individual as well? our costs. nota been putting on the individual as well? our costs. not a direct sense but california has passed is a gas tax, a fuel tax on cars. they have increased the tax on fuel to pay for measures, to reduce carbon emissions. this is not the only measure that is being taken to try and tackle emissions in california. as you rightly say, the city has a huge measure with emissions. the smog is not as bad as it used to be, but that is still an issue. higher taxes are not popular but they have been approved by the people of california. how interesting. james,
thank you. keep us posted, please. we are going to finish the programme with a report about a memorial forest that is being planted in an airport. that is where malaysia ﬂight airport. that is where malaysia flight took off three years ago. it headed for kuala lumpur but it did not get there. it was... close to the border with russia. a space full of life. created to remember the dead. and reflect. three years have passed. the families brought together by a loss now find comfort in each other '5 presence. together by a loss now find comfort in each other 's presence. it means the world. i have met some people who have been through the same tragedy as i have been through. what
a lovely, lovely place. it has been a lovely, lovely place. it has been a lovely, lovely place. it has been a lovely day. again, lovely people. iam a lovely day. again, lovely people. i am honoured to be a part of it. 80 children were among the 298 people killed when the flight was shot out of the sky. the joint investigation tea m of the sky. the joint investigation team is still gathering the evidence they hope will eventually reveal who is responsible. their sorrow is aggravated by what they believe are deliberate attempt to muddy the waters with miss information, pushed out of the country that could hold the most critical clues. out of the country that could hold the most critical clueslj out of the country that could hold the most critical clues. i have never said anything derogatory about anybody. i want someone to come out and say why it happened. i do not ca re and say why it happened. i do not care how it happened now. they will not bring the people back. i think it would be nice to know why. someone to hold the hands out. all the names were read out today. there
we re the names were read out today. there were a lot of people who struggle to read the names out, especially young children. it was tough me. i was one of the last ones to get up. the longer it went, the harder it was. i would like to think i did liam and johnjustice. the pain will never go away but some peace. tell us why. this memorialforest was away but some peace. tell us why. this memorial forest was designed to signify life, growth and the hope that so many of these families are still coming onto. —— clinging onto. anna's report finishes this edition of outside source. thank you for watching. we will be back tomorrow at the usual time. we will see you then. the week ahead is a story of ups and
downs weather—wise and the temperature at the moment are certainly on the up. monday brought a lot of sunshine. a beautiful day for the beach in north—east scotland and also in cornwall. high cloud gathering in the sky. the first sign of some changes that will take place later in the week. as those temperatures continue to rise, the middle part of the week will bring some vicious hit and miss thunderstorms. the temperatures head downwards again. drescher conditions to ta ke downwards again. drescher conditions to take us to the weekend. high pressure is in charge. as the high—pressure drifts eastwards, it allows self easterly air flow. that ta ps allows self easterly air flow. that taps into some very, very warm air. humid in as well. tuesday will bring increasingly humid and muddy conditions. high cloud streaming its way in. a fair amount of sunshine.
thunderstorms later in the day. and easterly breeze off the north sea. chilly along the east coast. inland and further west. temperatures into the high 205. with that heat and humidity, we will start to see thunderstorms from the south during tuesday night. quite hit and miss. if you catch a storm, a lot of rain. frequent lightning, maybe hail. storms continuing across scotland over a wednesday. as it brightens up, heatand over a wednesday. as it brightens up, heat and humidity to drive thunderstorms here and there. by this stage, something fresh beginning to show its hand out west. wednesday night into thursday, as this cold front swept eastwards, fresher air from this cold front swept eastwards, fresher airfrom the this cold front swept eastwards, fresher air from the atlantic. westerly winds across the country on thursday. is humid start across the south—east. temperatures must lower. a lot of drier weather. as we head
into friday, an area of low pressure will drift in from the atlantic. a band of rain with that. uncertainty about the timing of this rain band. even where the main band of rain has cleared, further showers. the cabbie temperatures. down on where they have been. 15 to 21 celsius. the low likely to be across northern scotland. spells of sunshine also some showery rain. these westerly winds continuing to bring fresher conditions. 22 celsius as a high. areas of low pressure will be brought to our shores by the jet stream. notice as we go through the weekend, it looks like we could see a change in the shape of the jet stream. it will bend its way north words. it means an area of high pressure that sets may be able to
nudge its way north and east and have an influence on our weather. some uncertainty into next weekjust have more and east it will travel. northern parts of the country, and u nsettled northern parts of the country, and unsettled flavour. spells of rain and quite breezy. further south, mainly dry. pleasantly warm but not as warm as it is at the moment. tonight at ten, there's more funding for schools in england — £1.3 billion over the next two yea rs. but labour says it's not enough. the money will come from the existing education budget, including from funds set aside for free schools, a flagship conservative policy. the additionalfunding i'm setting out today, together with the introduction of a national funding formula, will provide schools with the investment they need to offer a world class education to every single child. it's a step in the right direction
and we're pleased that the government now agrees with us, but this seems to us more of a short—term fix rather than full remedy. there'd been anger from some conservative mp5 in the wake of the election over education cuts. we'll have the latest. also tonight... the route of the new hs2 rail line north of birmingham has been