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tv   The Papers  BBC News  September 3, 2017 10:30pm-10:46pm BST

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hello, this is bbc news. in a moment we will be taking a look at tomorrow morning's papers with my guests. first, let's take you through the headlines at 10:30pm. there has been international condemnation of north korea's claim it has tested its most powerful nuclear device to date, a hydrogen bomb that could be loaded onto a long—range missile. mr president, will you attack north korea? we'll see. donald trump met with his national security team. speaking afterwards james matters said america had many military options and was committed to defending itself and its allies. any threat to the united states, or its territories, including guam, or oui’ its territories, including guam, or our allies, will be met with a massive military response which will be both effective and overwhelming. the brexit secretary has accused the
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eu of making itself look silly by insisting talks are not making progress. his remarks come as the eu's chief negotiator, michel barnier, said he wanted to teach the british people what leaving the single market meant. hospital bosses have warned the nhs in england may suffer its worst winter in recent history if it doesn't receive an emergency bailout. welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be bringing us. my guests today, the parliamentary journalist tony grew, and the entertainment journalist, journalist tony grew, and the entertainmentjournalist, caroline frost. good evening to both of you. we will take on a minute. first, the front pages. the ft writes that donald trump has opened the door to military action
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following the latest nuclear weapons test by north korea. same story in the i. the secretary of state warns of possible annihilation in response. the same story in the metro, showing a picture of the north korean leader shortly after the test. the times says donald trump has threatened to sever trade ties with any country that deals with north korea, including china. the daily telegraph says there is growing concern in europe that mr trump is considering unilateral action as the un security council is due to meet tomorrow. the guardian leading with an unpublished report saying families who have lost loved ones in police custody are being failed by authorities and calls for reform to the system. and finally the daily mail, headlines about households who oversaw their bin could face a fine
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up oversaw their bin could face a fine up to £2500 and a criminal conviction as councils try to push recycling and cut collections. let's begin, caroline and tony, a lot of those front page is dominated by north korea. we will start there with the i. what did you make of it when you first saw the headline? these pictures remind me of back in the 19705 and 19805 when we use the cd5 russian propaganda 5hots. the 19705 and 19805 when we use the cd5 russian propaganda shots. the fa ct cd5 russian propaganda shots. the fact north korea are releasing a picture of their leader, hands on deck. —— when we used to see these russian propaganda 5hots. but it is far too real. and donald trump asking for an immediate response. it's making me feel nervous. you are nervous? what about you, tony?” it's making me feel nervous. you are nervous? what about you, tony? i am more concerned about trump than north korea. his leadership is a
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destabilising force. more destabilising force. more destabilising than kim jong—un? towards the end of the financial times story from an academic who is an expert in north korea. they said kimjong—un an expert in north korea. they said kim jong—un understands washington does not have the ability to crank up does not have the ability to crank up russia any further. this is part of the weakness of the us's position internationally. the press secretary to say they have many military options, they don't, they have limited options, it would be massive and overwhelming retaliation. annihilation is a word being used. president trump will cut off trade links with china, saying that, it would not be a good move. let's turn to the subject of what weapons would
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be in the arsenal. we know that north korea has nuclear weapons. it's frightening. let's say this military option goe5 it's frightening. let's say this military option goes ahead. you must wonder what type of retaliation kim jong—un would come back with. wonder what type of retaliation kim jong-un would come back with. we don't know, do we? so few go to speak. we don't have the channels with the rest of the world where you have the diplomacy into the open diplomatic channels. everybody is talking of hopefully back channels. iam hoping talking of hopefully back channels. i am hoping that there is a lot of stuff going on that we don't know about. for once i find myself sympathising with donald trump because, as tony said, there is a limit to what he can say. they've backed them5elve5 limit to what he can say. they've backed themselves into a corner effectively. it becomes almost a blink off. who is going to stand down? it is old school cold war type stuff. that is what worries me. we have a president of the united
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states spending his time on twitter, attacking south korea, saying your appeasement hasn't worked. when the president said they tweaked like that he does not seem to understand that he does not seem to understand that there are only two options, and that there are only two options, and thatis that there are only two options, and that is option two. when you go with appeasement, you have to wonder what north korea want. all the talk, you have the sanctions, and they are still going ahead. they don't care what people are talking about. it i5, what people are talking about. it is, we dare you to do something, in the meantime we are on step two macro of the development of our arms. they are making the steps forward in the meantime. the north korean leader points to what happened to colonel gaddafi. the other leaders that have come to an other leaders that havercemeteran with other leaders that havercometorao with the us and stopped arrangement with the us and stopped their nuclear weapons programme. what happens is regime change. that is his fear. there should always be more room for more talk and more application of sanctions and pressure by people like china, who are the only ones who really have any influence with them. the idea of
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the president of the us stopping trading with china, it shows how ill suited he is to his role. makes you wonder if he has seen the numbers. we will stick with the ft. very quickly. £50 billion, i don't think so, is david davis's response to this. this is the brexit deal. you have done the numbers. this. this is the brexit deal. you have done the numberslj this. this is the brexit deal. you have done the numbers. i checked what the net contribution is to the eu. net contribution, not the amount of money we give and get back, as well. when you do the sums, the uk was on course to pay around £10 million per year, for the next four years come into the eu. that already comes to £42 billion. david davis thinks we will get away with paying nothing. and this idea that we shouldn't be generous with our eu partners to get to the next stage of negotiations and talk about a trade deal. the uk is the second—largest net contributor to the eu. when we
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leave it will leave hole in their budget. who else would be in the top three? it's complicated. france gets a huge amount of money back through things like the common agricultural policy. germany is the biggest net contributor, as i recall. the point and trying to make is that the uk financial commitments. —— i and trying to make is that the uk financial commitments. —— lam trying to make. we should stop talking about money. stop pretending the uk doesn't have to pay. and there are schemes like erasmus.|j used it. if we want to continue using it we must continue paying for it. and we must support the eu, and the country is not part of the eu that the eu contributes to. we have to make sure we continue doing that so those places are peaceful. i'm not sure many people will be as friendly as you with the numbers. but after we all got absolutely sold
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on the fabled £350 million we were going to save. i would suggest that these numbers become important to people suddenly. they were abstract figures before. just a year ago. now these numbers are concrete things these numbers are concrete things the government is going to have to justify. especially as labour have shifted their position. they signified the day, they were talking about how when the negotiations start kicking off in parliament, questions will be asked, and it'll be along the lines of exactly how much. it must be frustrating for david davis. he's as part of negotiations is not showing your cards, and people are asking for him to do exactly that. and it is 0ctober, to do exactly that. and it is october, the eu commission? yes, that's when the leaders come together and discuss what progress has been made so we can then discuss the trade—off. britain is hoping that the political leaders will be able to talk them round and get some flexibility. the eu can only act in
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the way the 27 members instruct them to do. i think britain will have to start paying some money. then things might move their way. but i am a pessimist. unlike david davis who is an optimist. chuckles let's turn to the times. there is the possibility of a reshuffle in the possibility of a reshuffle in the air, or maybe not? as a political journalist, the air, or maybe not? as a politicaljournalist, there were always three stories you could write, leadership challenge, reshuffle, when there will be a general election. we have the takeaway one of those two. you can always write a leadership challenge story and a reshuffle story. briefed by somebody who as far as i can see is delusional. this is a prime minister who lost her government's majority. she saw several of her ministers lose them a seat in the general election. she called it would she didn't need to do it. the idea she will wield the knife
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against people, i find it bizarre. and also talking about sacking people. one of which is liam fox. two of the leading brexiteer politicians in your party. also talk ofjason reese hogg getting promoted. to her advisers think that will win her back some votes? appointing a right wing reactionary politician? that's going to go down well in the marginal seats they need to win back in the north and the midlands. i find this bizarre. the idea the pm is under the impression she has power, because she doesn't. some say she may hold off on this. because of what she said while she was injapan. i don't know if you picked up on the point, i don't know how closely you have been following this, but boris johnson how closely you have been following this, but borisjohnson might be moved if this reshuffle did go ahead because theresa may is losing
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patients with him. where you aware those tensions? this comes from the background of borisjohnson's, what is it, perennial leadership campaign? he has been quiet. he's been overseas. in theory doing his job. but perhaps he is getting his loins and other seductive attack on ten downing st. it is the way you say it. chuckles here's a fascinating character. i think he will go for the fluffy vote with jason reese hogg. i think it will be interesting. i'm loving this because every time you open a paper this is a sign of her growing confidence. —— jason this is a sign of her growing confidence. ——jason rees mogg. it is just who you believe. confidence. ——jason rees mogg. it isjust who you believe. coming to the end of silly season. two more stories to squeeze in. this donor
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scandal, could you take us through that quickly? in scotland, and it is about to come in in scotland, it already takes place in wales, you are automatically put on the donor list and you have to opt out of it. what do you make of that? i think it is pretty standard. we have thousands of people on a waiting list, waiting for a donor. many people died last year because they were not able to have an organ transplant operation. and this is on the back of a private members bill. that will be coming forward and will change the rules. i am sanguine about it. i don't see the problem with it. it's one of those things we re with it. it's one of those things were a shift is traumatic for certain people. people with strong
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religious beliefs or something similar. it's one of those things, had it been in existence for a long period of time nobody would be worried about it. i would applaud a system like this when you have numbers like this. we have had politics, international affairs, health, let's go to a story i think a lot of people were waiting to break. we were all waiting to see these. trouble in the rooney household. i don't care. these. trouble in the rooney household. idon't care. in these. trouble in the rooney household. i don't care. in a shock twist, a famous highly paid footballer has to squeezed himself away from the pitch. it happens to be wayne rooney. could have been another player. what can we tell you? a bit of background, he has a lovely, pretty wife, who is pregnant with her fourth child, lovely, pretty wife, who is pregnant with herfourth child, who lovely, pretty wife, who is pregnant with her fourth child, who was on holiday last week, while wayne rooney celebrated his departure from the bulk of his professional career in style. there is a lady with an
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open cardigan on the front of the daily mirror. she must be embarrassed by that. same story in the sun newspaper. yes, spread the riches. as my grandmother would say, she'll catch her death in that top! do you really think it is over? will we have a split in this famous football coupling? tony is sitting there thinking about it. what do you think? i don't know much about foot ball think? i don't know much about football or celebrities because i am a politicaljournalist. did wayne rooney tell this journalist? it says it is an exclusive. it is a card he is having to play. he cannot

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