tv Victoria Derbyshire BBC News September 6, 2017 9:00am-11:01am BST
hello, it's wednesday, it's 9am, i'm chloe tilley. welcome to the programme. the government is looking at ways to reduce the number of low skilled eu migrants after brexit. according to a leaked home office leaked document. we wa nt document. we want companies to do more to improve skills of those who leave oui’ improve skills of those who leave our colleges. we are not closing the door on all future immigration, but it has to be managed properly. bosses faced being told they could be taxed if they keep taking on unskilled eu migrants and should put british workers first. as thousands of nurses prepare to lobby parliament over their pay, some of them tell us why they can't afford to live on what they get. i'm michael. i'm a nurse. i'm £400 a
month worse off under the pay cap. but is a pay rise affordable? let us know what you think. we report on a scheme in glasgow to help refugees who previously worked as doctorsjoin the help refugees who previously worked as doctors join the nhs. help refugees who previously worked as doctorsjoin the nhs. lots of collea g u es as doctorsjoin the nhs. lots of colleagues who are doctors living here and they are working other jobs. some of them are even taxi drivers which has let down hope for a lot of people and when you hear about this, it has given us a lot of hope. hello. welcome to the programme. we're live until ”am this morning. we're also talking about endometriosis this morning, an incurable condition affecting women which causes extreme pain and often goes undiagnosed. under new nhs guidelines should improve the treatment people get,
we'll have all the details. do get in touch if it's something you've suffered from. use the hashtag victoria live and if you text, you will be charged our top story today. a leaked home office document has set out plans for how the uk immigration system could work after brexit. the paper, which has been published by the guardian newspaper, considers how the government could dramatically reduce the number number of low—skilled eu migrants. it also proposes time limits on how long eu nationals could stay in the uk. the bbc understands the document — which was produced last month — has not been approved by ministers. our political guru norman smith is in westminster this morning. norman, tell us more about what's in the leaked document? well, there are two sort of big thoughts in this document. one is the desire for a concerted climb—down on unskilled eu migration into the uk and the second is to put british workers first. to
give them priority. now, how would this work out? well the government is suggesting you could say to unskilled eu workers coming to britain, you can only stay for two yea rs, britain, you can only stay for two years, you would have to get a certain salary level. you couldn't come here and look for a job, you would have to have a job to come to and the government is also thinking about just imposing a and the government is also thinking aboutjust imposing a blanket cap on the number of unskilled workers from the number of unskilled workers from the eu who can come here. so they would say well, you can have x thousands, but no more than that. as for business, they will be under an obligation to try and recruit local british workers first and they will have to pass a test to show that they have gone out and tried to recruit british workers and if then they still want to recruit people from the eu, they could face a charge, a tax, and that money would go to train up british workers. so,
it's a very, very big change from what the current sort of freedom of movement regime and while it's not definite government policy, i think, we do get a clear insight into the strategy the government is hoping to unveil once we finally get the immigration plans unveiled in the autumn. how is it being received, norman? well, business, ithink, is already deeply alarmed and the reason for that is they say look, there simply aren't the indigenous british workers out there to take up all the unskilled jobs because unemployment is down at around 4.5%. that's nearly full employment. so they say look, we have got to go out to europe to bring in those unskilled workers otherwise we can't meet customer demand and we can't grow our businesses. the response from ministers has been to say look, immigration was at the heart of the referendum campaign. there is no getting away from it and this morning the defence secretary sir michael fallon was saying he would
make no apology for bearing down on immigration. let's be clear, freedom of movement has to end. it has to end because legally we're living the european union, that's what people voted for last year and freedom of movement is part of membership. so that has to finish. we don't want to shut the down on i will gration, but equally the public want to see immigration continue to come down. it's falling at the moment. we've always said we want to get it manageable, down from hundreds of thousands a year, down to tens of thousands a year, down to tens of thousands a year to reduce the pressure on public services. so we will set out the proposals as to who can come here from the rest of the european union, how long they can work here and what their varied will be and it will be set out by the home secretary later this year. chloe this is going to provoke a huge row, debate, call it what you will over the road in westminster including in the conservative party. when you talk to different ministers they say, "well, i don't want any reduction in eu migrants in my
particular field." reduction in eu migrants in my particularfield." no one really wa nts to particularfield." no one really wants to see fewer nhs workers from the eu orfewer care workers. no one really wa nts the eu orfewer care workers. no one really wants to see fewer farm workers coming to work in fruit farms. no one wants to see fewer construction workers. the difficulty is working out who are the unskilled eu workers that the government now wa nts to eu workers that the government now wants to keep out. norman, thank you very much. annita is in the bbc newsroom with a summary of the rest of the day's news. islands in the caribbean are making last—minute preparations for hurricane irma, one of the most powerful atlantic storms on record with officials warning of its "potentially catastrophic" effects. it's already lashing the british territory of anguilla where residents say the powerful waves and high winds have been pounding the coastline. latest reports say the eye of the hurricane is passing over the island of barbuda. our correspondent sarah corker reports. this is the eye of the storm from space. dramatic images from nasa capture the sheer scale and magnitude of hurricane irma.
the category five storm is on a collision course with several caribbean islands. popular holiday destinations like antigua and saint martin are preparing for life—threatening winds and torrential rains. storm surges of up to i2—feet are forecast and overnight some islands have started to flood. irma's path may change but at the moment it looks set to head towards the british virgin islands, puerto rico, cuba and by the weekend, the florida keys. people are securing their homes and stocking up on essentials. the dough minutical republic the rains have already arrived. the tourist like, like its neighbour, haiti issued hurricane warnings. and in florida, a state of emergency has been declared. the torm is massive and the storm surge will go for miles and miles. right now irma is
travelling at ismph and the track has it forecasted to move just south of the florida quays on a westerly path with a slight north—west turn. it is important that all floridans keep an eye on this storm. do not sit and wait to prepare, get prepared now. the storm's track may change. this monster hurricane comes on the heels of harvey, which struck texas and louisiana last month. this but irma is a bigger storm and potentially more dangerous. in miami, they are preparing for the worst. this is not a storm to be taken worst. this is not a storm to be ta ken lightly. this worst. this is not a storm to be taken lightly. this is probably the worst one since we moved here in 2003. i have lived through hurricane
andrew and hurricane katrina and hurricane wilma. a research plane filmed these pictures from inside the hurricane to predict its route and now millions of people across the caribbean are preparing for this potentially catastrophic storm. a 14—year—old boy has died after a double shooting in east london. coreyjunior davis and another boy, who's 17, were found with gunshot injuries in forest gate on monday afternoon. the second victim is said to have "life—changing injuries". police have launched a murder investigation. russian president vladimir putin has said that north korea's nuclear and missile programme are a "flagrant violation" of un resolutions. speaking after talks with his south korean counterpart in the russia city of vladivostok, mr putin also called for talks to try to resolve the crisis, warning that no resolution would be possible with just sanctions and pressure alone. the de—facto leader of myanmar, aung san suu kyi, has claimed that the crisis in rakhine state
is being distorted by what she called misinformation. myanmar is currently under intense diplomatic pressure to end the violence its security forces are reportedly inflicting on the rohingya minority. nearly 150,000 people have fled into neighbouring bangladesh. that's a summary of the latest bbc news — more at 9.30am. get in touch with us throughout the morning — use the hashtag victoria live and if you text, you will be charged and if you text, you will be charged at the standard network rate. let's get some sport now with, hugh. let's talk about ben woodburn. he only made his debut for wales at the weekend and already he's turning into a real star in the side, isn't he? e—ben woodburn could well become the next big star. he is thought of
highly by his club manager, jurgen klopp. his international manager decided to bring him in for wales at the age of 17. he had a real effect. he scored a winner on his debut and in last night's qualifier, well he made another impact off the bench. the liverpool man, showed no fear so far ina the liverpool man, showed no fear so far in a welsh shirt. he has defied his age. good wide play from him to set up the opening goal. it was a man of the match performance from woodburn. so we could be looking at another ryan giggs or gareth bale, aaron ramsey getting another goal to put a seal on the result, but it was a very important win for wales because that result coupled with defeat for the republic of ireland in theirgame defeat for the republic of ireland in their game with serbia means that wales have moved into second spot in group d. that gives them a good chance of a play—off spot with a couple of qualifying games left.
wales and ireland will face each other in a final qualifier in a month's time. that could be a winner ta kes all month's time. that could be a winner takes all decider. now, the england women's manager mark sampson has been responding to accusations of bullying. yes. there has been a bit of a storm at the fa over this. the former striker alleged an atmosphere of bullying and discrimination. she said that had been created by sam son and included allegations of racially insensitive language and sam son has been cleared by a fa and independent investigation and yesterday he chose to speak about the issue. he said his conscience was clear responding to the claim that he joked that he didn't want her nigerian family to bring ebola to an england game. this is what he had to say. i have heard the specifics of the allegation and at
the time we released a statement to be very clear that i didn't say that and i'm very disappointed the allegation has come out and i understand it. all i can say is i didn't say that with any of my communication, my intention clearly is to support the players, give them confidence and give them every chance to be successful on the field. she has claimed she e—mailed sam son and he hasn't responded. we will see if the fa chooses to look at this further. football will lose one of its greatest commentators at the end of this season — john motson. we will hear and see less ofjohn motson. he is deciding to hang up the microphone after 50 years. he covered ten world cups, ten euros,
29 fa cup finals and more than 200 england games. he is at the age of 72. he says he wants to stay within football and commentary. he won't be retiring from everything, but we won't have him describing a goal or two on a saturday night and that will be a brand—new feeling for many of the football fans up and down the country. hugh, thank you. i'll catch up country. hugh, thank you. i'll catch up with you later on. hundreds of nurses are expected to gather in central london later to demand a pay rise from the government after years of pay restraint. it comes as the scottish government announce the pay cap in scotland will be lifted and after hints from ministers that things could be going a similar way in england. let's speak with michael coram. tell me how your life has been affected by the pay cap?|j tell me how your life has been affected by the pay cap? i worry a lot more about money than i used to.
money is a lot tighter at the end of the month, there is less money left. so that means maybe you don't have a holiday that year or you shop for a cheaper brand in the supermarket. but it's also about how we feel under valued. so it's about yes, about money, but it's also every time the pay cap stays in place and every time we are told there is no money, it is a slap in the face for hard—working nurses money, it is a slap in the face for ha rd—working nurses and money, it is a slap in the face for hard—working nurses and health care assistants, midwives, doctors, operating department practitioners, radiographers, everybody that works in the nhs and it is not, some of the lower paid staff that are really suffering. so health care assistants who are on band two, admin staff who are band ones, band twos, band threes which are the lower pay scales because they have had their pay frozen in the same way. it isn't just nurses that are suffering, it is staff across the nhs. emma louise, you are in glasgow, so
you will benefit from the cap is being lifted in scotland. but that does not mean i will not keep fighting for it to be lifted across the uk. as well as that, i am a student, but i have benefited from the bursary appear, and i would love to see it being overturned down south, because i can see the number of nurses decreasing rapidly without that bursary in place. on top of that, michael is right when he says it is about being undervalued, because we are out there saving your family's life, and it is about the same respect been coming back to us. i know that you used to be a nurse yourself — is the pay capped their? i worked under the bank, but i worked under the cap and a pay freeze from 2010—15, so i have done
five years and i know how tough it is. nurses don't go into the profession to become wealthy or to earn huge wages. it is about the recognition of how hard nurses have worked, and about the whole public sector and what it says to people when we say, we can't afford to give you a pay rise. but it is your government that has enforced that.|j am government that has enforced that.” am one of many colleagues trying to influence the government to lift the pay cut. i am sponsoring an event with the rcn to raise awareness amongst mps not just about the pay rise but to showcase what nurses really do, because i think there is a lack of understanding about how the role has changed and the crucial work that nurses do, both in hospitals and the community, and what a difference they make to the nhs. sam, introduce yourself, please. i am the executive director ofa please. i am the executive director of a free— market please. i am the executive director of a free—market think tank. after
the crisis, public sector wages rose as private sector wages collapsed, so the gap between the public and private sectors became large. the purpose of the pay freeze was to close that gap so that private—sector ways these — — close that gap so that private—sector ways these —— wages and public sector could go back to the pre—crisis point. and public sector could go back to the pre-crisis point. so you back the pre-crisis point. so you back the pay cap? correct. it is probably time to think about getting rid of it, andl time to think about getting rid of it, and i think there probably isn't a case for having a cap on all government workers. it is a little strange to say that nurses should be treated the same way as tax collectors, for example. but we also need to remember that private—sector wages have been very sluggish and are still not much higher than they we re are still not much higher than they were ten years are still not much higher than they were ten years ago. are still not much higher than they were ten years ago. when we talk about stuff like this, we need to remember that the private sector, which pays for this, is also suffering and has had a difficult time, but it may be time to review this and look at alternatives. lorraine, i want to bring you in at
this point, if i made. do you think that nurses, firefighters, police officers are special cases and should have the cap removed? very much so. i think front line emergency services are needed, and the skills that they have taken yea rs the skills that they have taken years to get... they also have to keep continual development to keep their accreditation, and i think that they should be treated specially in terms of the private sector. sam said it is tough for people in the private sector, and many people watching the programme will say, i haven't had a pay rise for many years, and i know that has been the case for you as well. i left the private sector. i work for a telecoms company for 31 years. for the last few years, since 2008, we didn't have a pay award at all. we have had bonuses cut, but no pay
award, which has an effect on our pension payments. our pension will bea pension payments. our pension will be a lot less when we retire. yes, i do see that our pay award is based on performance, not just individually but on the company's performance, and in some instances, yes, you can use that yardstick, but in front line emergency services, like fire, police, etc, you need to be able to pay them a living wage, especially in areas like london, where the cost of living is very high. and also, we have got to keep and attract key personnel in the industry. if not, you get a situation like the one i have in luton, where we have to recruit internationally. they do brilliant work in terms of looking after our
pregnant women in the local hospital here, but we have to look externally to get the skills to bring in, which is ludicrous. i want to bring saffron into the conversation. i am an adviser at nhs providers, and we represent hospital and ambulance trusts in england. how much will it cost to lift the pay cap? much will it cost to lift the pay e much will it cost to lift the pay cap? the institute of fiscal studies says it would cost £1 billion per year. it is a substantial amount of money. but i would say that we called for an end to the pay cap la st called for an end to the pay cap last year, and we were amongst the first to do so, because we know it is critical that we not only recruit new staff into the nhs so we can maintain safe services but that we also retain those staff that r.n. there. we know there is huge pressure on the front line at the moment, and it is impacting on
morale, and pay is one of those elements that we can see boosting morale. it is absolutely fundamental. let's talk about the realities: theresa may has said there was no magic money tree, so where does this £1 billion a year come from? across the public sector, if we lifted the cap, it would cost £9 billion. i think there is sympathy from the public sector workers from the first few years —— for the first few years, but that is waning. we still have a deficit that is costing £46 billion a year, and if we just increase public sector spending, the interest payments will go up, and that is money we could spend on front line services. it is not just as simple spend on front line services. it is notjust as simple as spending more money. we either raise taxes, which will hit those people getting the pay rise, or we make tough decisions. the money would have to come from another department or another policy, and that is the
tough decision government has to make. it is not easy. that is an important point. the other one is, if we found that we had £9 billion to spend, would it necessarily be best spent on wages? yes, in some cases, no in others. it is not clear that the money should always go to wages. the way the debate is focused, it seems as if it is the only thing the government should spend money on. i think it is fundamental that we look at what the nhs's biggest asset is — its workforce. we need to invest in that. we need to do that so that services can transform. you can't transform services without the staff to do it. it fundamentally has to be new money. the £8 billion that the conservatives put in their manifesto for the nhs over the course of the next parliament, that will go on tackling demand, on keeping services
going. we need to see new money for this pay cap, not money taken up elsewhere. so it is taxes? it is for politicians to decide how they raise that money. it is for the service to deliver the service. politicians decide how much they will spend on the nhs, which we know is held dear in everyone's hearts. you have been listening patiently and i know you a dental nurse, and your mum is a nurse as well. just explain to people watching how your life has been affected by the pay cap, and respond to what other people had been saying. basically, we had to go to food banks. we would be scraping around for food. she couldn't afford her nmc registration most years, and thatis her nmc registration most years, and that is about £120 a year that nurses have to pay to remain qualified and to keep theirjobs. she couldn't afford that, so she had to go toa she couldn't afford that, so she had to go to a charitable organisation. to her, that was quite embarrassing
and hurt deeply, because she would be working 50 hours a week and would have hardly anything to show. people find it staggering. you say your mum had to go to a food bank even though she was working full time as a nurse? that's right, full-time hours and extra hours on top. she would have hardly anything to show for it. she had to get help with bills as well. i try to get a job when i was 13just so i could help her. it is a difficult situation which thousands of families are in right now. so, what is the answer? we're talking about the reality of lifting the pay cap being that this £8 billion has to be found. higher taxes or taking money from elsewhere — what is the best option? i think taking it from elsewhere. everyone has taxes, including everyone in the public sector, who would have to pay more.
they wouldn't benefit from that. i think they need to look elsewhere for this money. everyone should benefit and not have more taken away from them. marina hasjust rushed into the studio. thanks so much for dashing in to see us. you are a student nurse? just about to qualify, yes. iwill start student nurse? just about to qualify, yes. i will start work in a few months. how do you feel right now? michael was speaking at the beginning of the programme, saying how undervalued he feels at a nurse. how do you feel as you approach this new era in your life? i agree, it is a sad time. i started nursing because i have a passion for caring people, and it is a sad time to almost be a baby nurse, embarking the career in a climate where it is clear that the government just doesn't care. we want to care for people, and we can't even care for ourselves and our families. people, and we can't even care for ourselves and ourfamilies. i'm starting my career on pay that has
been cut for the last few years and will not be going up to match the cost of living any time soon under the current plans. yeah, it is a really difficult... speak to maria. she is a conservative mp and used to bea she is a conservative mp and used to be a nurse. maria, speak to marina — she says your government doesn't care. the government does care. they are ina care. the government does care. they are in a difficult situation. if they simply spend more public money, we will all pay that and we will all lose that £46 billion we're paying on interest rates. if you don't pay the balance on your credit card, you have to pay that interest when you could be spending it on your family. the government, it isjust a big credit card, and if we simply increase our spending, the money has to be paid back at some point. i get it, because i still do bank shifts at my old hospital. the nhs staff
don't feel cared for. there are ways of doing this without simply lifting the cap across the whole sector. if we focused on the lowest bands, which are most nurses... what money are you talking about that people would earn? it would be significantly less than £9 billion. michael, do you know? someone at the top of the increment would be on about £41,000. band one, a member of the security staff, a catering assistant, i think it is about 15,000, though i couldn't say for sure. the gender —— agenda for change pay scales are online and you can look at them. what you said about the magic money tree...” raised that, to be fair. somebody raised that, to be fair. somebody raised it. in the papersjust this week, there was a big headline of
£400,000 spent on ferrying briefcases around london by ministers. there is money out there, but it is about where it is being spent. there was another big headline a few weeks ago — jeremy hunt was getting a new £40,000 bathroom in his new offices at the department of health. i don't know if that is true, but there seem to be sums of money available that perhaps are not going where they should be. no one is a bigger critic of government west than i am, but those are very small sums compared to what we're talking about. i think maria's approaches the right one: on lower paid workers. we need to remember that job security is stronger in the public sector than in the private sector. pensions are still better in the public sector than in the private. those things come into it as well. i'm not completely convinced that if we had £9 billion to spend, the best thing would be to raise public sector workers' wages, rather than for
example changing the welfare freeze. people who rely on welfare have much more dependency on food banks and people in that position have suffered as well. the point is, if we have this kind of money to spend, it is not clear it should be going on public sector wages.” it is not clear it should be going on public sector wages. i think the point about security in the public sector, with the current climate, is null and void, because people are leaving. they may have job security, but if they haven't got enough security to raise their families and ca re security to raise their families and care for themselves, then, yeah, it is kind pointless. we are talking about agenda for change. those people on the bands up to £40,000. i think it is really important that we're clear what we're talking about. one of the things that's critical in this debate is that we make sure that the pay review body, which is the kind of the organisation that will look at pay is given a free hand to
decide what the best level of pay increase is. that should be a fully independent body that looks at that. so that we actually know what needs to be spent to make sure that we have the staff we need in place to deliver a safe service. so the starting salary for a new nurse is about £22,000 which works out about £13 an hour. to put that into context, mcdon't amds workers have gone on strike for a £10 an hour pay increase. we really do need to look at what we're paying highly skilled, highly trained people that are doing an amazing job highly trained people that are doing an amazingjob and highly trained people that are doing an amazing job and are doing it harderand harder an amazing job and are doing it harder and harder all the time. jeremy hunt regularly says the nhs is doing more work than its ever done before. we can testify to that. but generally if you work in a business and your business is doing more and more work and doing better and better, you reward your staff and better, you reward your staff and you recognise that your staff are working really hard. lots of people getting in touch with us on
the hashtag victoria live. david says, " low the hashtag victoria live. david says, "low wages in whatever sector are wrong. the only beneficiaries are wrong. the only beneficiaries are employers and the rest struggle to make ends meet." this one, maria, it isa to make ends meet." this one, maria, it is a tweet from rachel, "when was the last pay cap for mps and how much could be saved if we capped their pay for seven years?" a tweet from stewart saying, "the pay cap on nurses is about choice, they can find money for what the government wa nts, find money for what the government wants, but not for nurses." it is about choices and i'm trying to raise the issue of nurses‘ pay, about choices and i‘m trying to raise the issue of nurses‘ pay, it isn‘t about the pay cap, it is about nurses pay across—the—board. nurses are taking on more and more roles and the nursing profession feels under valued so the pay freeze and the pay cap is one issue, but we need to look across—the—board at the pay structure for nursing in the long—term. pay structure for nursing in the long-term. briefly, if you would. it is worth saying that the nhs isn't
kind of set in stone on this issue. they are really developing changing working inowe vaitively and bringing in new roles so they can work more productively, it isn't about something that isn't changing with the times. the nhs workforce is often at the cutting edge of different ways of working and different ways of working and different ways of delivering service, it is worth remembering that we're notjust service, it is worth remembering that we're not just asking for the pay cap to be lifted so that we can support what's there, it's about supporting change as well which is needed. thank you all so much. sorry, we‘re out of time, but thank you for all of you giving up your time to speak to us this morning. we invited the government to join our debate but they said they didn‘t have anyone available. in a statement the department of health said: "as the secretary of state has made clear, ministers are well aware of the pressures on frontline nhs staff, including nurses, who do a fantasticjob. the support and welfare of nhs staff is a top priority, and the government is committed to ensuring they can continue to deliver world—class patient care. we are helping the nhs to make sure
it has the right staff, in the right place, at the right time to provide safe care — that‘s why there are over 31,100 more professionally qualified clinical staff, including over 11,600 more doctors, and almost 12,000 more nurses on our wards since may 2010." still to come: how a ground—breaking scheme in glasgow is helping refugees who previously worked as doctors, join the nhs. we‘ll be speaking to the descendant of the last king of myanmar, exiled by the british in 1885, a new documentary on the country‘s royal family and how their descendents continue to live there in complete obscurity. here‘s annita in the bbc newsroom with a summary of today‘s news. a leaked home office document has set out plans for how
the uk immigration system could work after brexit. the paper, which has been published by the guardian newspaper, considers how the government could dramatically reduce the number number of low—skilled eu migrants. it also proposes time limits on how long eu nationals could stay in the uk. the bbc understands the document, which was produced last month, has not been approved by ministers. winds from hurricane irma have begun lashing islands in the caribbean — where people have been told to evacuate their homes. officials are warning of the "potentially catastrophic" effects of the category five hurricane which has already sustained winds of 180mph. it‘s starting to hit the leeward islands and will move on towards puerto rico and the dominican republic. it‘s projected to reach the us state of florida on saturday. a 14—year—old boy has died after a double shooting in east london. coreyjunior davis and another boy, who is 17,were found with gunshot injuries in forest gate on monday afternoon. the second victim is said to have "life—changing injuries".
police have launched a murder investigation. no arrests have been made. russian president vladimir putin has said that north korea‘s nuclear and missile programme are a "flagrant violation" of un resolutions. speaking after talks with his south korean counterpart in the russia city of vladivostok, mr putin also called for talks to try to resolve the crisis, warning that no resolution would be possible with just sanctions and pressure alone. that‘s a summary of the latest bbc news — more at 10am. here‘s some sport now with hugh. good morning. 17—year—old ben woodburn came off the bench and put in a man of the match performance to help wales to a 2—0 win over moldova. he set—up the opening goal for hal robson kanu. aaron ramsey got the second in the closing moments. that win coupled with defeat for the republic of ireland at home to serbia, means wales go into the play off spot in group d with two qualifiers remaining —
the sides do meet in the final group game. at the age of 37, venus williams is into another grand slam semi—final. she beat petra kvitova in a thrilling final set tie—break to reach the last four at the us open. she‘ll face fellow american sloane stephens next. chris froome doubled his lead yesterday. he won the 16th stage time trial to extend his lead to one minute and 58 seconds with five stages to go. that‘s all the sport for now. we will be back with more after 10am. doctors who‘ve travelled to scotland as refugees are being given the chance to start working for the nhs. a new training programme gives qualified doctors training, language support and mentoring, with the aim of helping them to register with the general medical council and practice medicine in scotland. the scheme is being funded by the scottish government as catrin nye reports. i always say to people that i imagine taking out someone‘s
appendix in peshwar is not that different to taking out someone‘s appendix in paisley. people arriving in the uk and seeking asylum have been dispersed to glasgow for the last 17 years. proportionately, it‘s got the second highest population of asylum seekers of anywhere in the uk. and recently a lot of the people arriving are highly qualified. i wish that one day this country will be proud of me. so, glasgow, hello, how are you doing? monday, he seems confused. we would like you to do an assessment of him.
take yourtime. first, you can see his airway's open. a class of doctors relearning bits of their trade for a different country. this exercise is situational judgment and as part of a programme funded by the scottish government that gives refugee doctors the skills to get their uk medical registration approved, and work for the nhs. at the moment, these doctors are not allowed to practice. it‘s kind of like a proper arm. yes, it's kind of like a proper arm! itjust doesn't bleed so much! is it frustrating, not being able to do what you‘re qualified for? of course. just like you're handcuffed. you want to do it, but your hand is cut. how qualified where you back at home? i'm a qualified medical doctor, i passed all my exams, licensed. it's hard to start again from zero, because i already did everything. how do you make sure they‘ve got
the right qualification? nhs education for scotland does that bit of the programme, and they check out the qualifications they bring with them. it‘s a bit difficult sometimes, because the institutions that people have studied are perhaps no longer there, but the process of becoming a doctor, retraining as a doctor, is so complex that there is no way that anyone who is not a doctor would get through the clinical exams. and then once you give them fluid, it's a diuretic, so you kind of go on the injuries that they've got, plus the physical, the clinical signs. what things is pat saying that are different, that things are done differently here to how you may have learned them before? in my country, the system is british, the medical system, it is british, so it is the same. but the nice thing is that he speaks simple english—language. it'sjust that i'm simple! that's for me.
i would imagine when you're learning english, local dialect is a big issue. when you're actually speaking to patients, sometimes they're not quite as clear as you and i. for example, yesterday someone told me i have a headache, because i had a... a swally? something like that. and people say i had a couple of beers, and they don't mean two. i don‘t think there‘s any difference in the actual clinical skills. i think where there has been a huge difference is attitudes to patients, and attitudes to how medicine is performed. and we had one surgeon who didn‘t really seem to be in engaging in the class, and when i asked him, he looked slightly puzzled, and he said well, i‘m a surgeon, and i said, yes, and he said well, when i get my patients, they‘re asleep, i never have to talk to them. so it‘s getting them to understand that the nhs is very different. yes, i'm from iraq. this man used to be a doctor in the iraqi army. he came to scotland to study,
but his life was threatened in iraq, and he‘s never been able to go back. it‘s quite confusing sometimes because we know medical terms. if you tell them something that is informal, it might not sound right or the patient may not feel so comfortable. i learned to say how are the waterworks down there? and it was a new thing for me. so like comforting terms? yes. 0h, 0k. before refugees can even take their medical exams, they have to speak really good english. now that means taking an english test, called ielts, and passing a level of 7.5. now that‘s a test that even some american and australian doctors have failed in the past. it means satisfaction...
you can tell from the kind of words being discussed in here, and the ideas, that this is a really high level of english. you were so close! it would be double r if i were using it, so i incurred... the programme also arranges placements with gps or hospitals, all pushing towards passing their medical exams. have you been out of the medical profession for some time? yes, the sometime, maybe four or five years. we have clients from every conceivable area of work, and many of them find it so difficult to get back into the jobs that they've done, that they end up taking jobs for which they are way over qualified. and i think underemployment in the refugee population
is as serious as unemployment. if someone is a qualified accountant, and they are working pushing trolleys in tesco's, now there is an argument that they are actually taking a job from a poorly qualified person in this country. lots of colleagues, or people who are doctors living here, and they are working otherjobs. some of them are even taxi drivers which has let down hope for a lot of people, and this has given us a lot of hope. so the word would be... access. fatimah was a surgeon in the middle east. she treated anti—government protesters, and in the end her care for them meant she too was a target for the government and was forced to flee. do you regret treating protesters? if i would say yes, then where is my promise in medical graduation that we would treat people equally and we will try to do whatever is possible to help people? so no, i‘m not, i will do it again. there are 38 people
on the programme at the moment. asylum seekers are allowed on as well as those who have been granted refugee status. it is funded by £160,000 of scottish government money, and as part of the deal doctors commit to working for nhs scotland. i‘ve been a doctor or a medical student since i was 17. being a doctor becomes a very central part of your identity, you know, it‘s kind of who you are, so i can understand how difficult it must be for a refugee doctors where that part of their identity is taken away. so you‘re part of this international community of people. you feel like you belong somewhere. when i used to work in the hospital in my country, and we would discuss with friends, and come up with a certain difficult or rare disease, and i cannot explain. it just means the world. is this a good use of nhs money? as well as getting people back to their careers as doctors being the right thing to do
from a humanitarian standpoint, it‘s also the right thing to do financially because it would be a hugely wasted resource if people had already gone through very expensive medical training were not used as doctors. and medicine isn't a job for any of these women and men, it's a vocation, they want to practice medicine. and what do you hope for the future? hopefully that i will pass all exams, and first of all it is the language exam, and to practice medicine again. and i wish that one day this country will be proud of me. that report from glasgow. if you wa nt to that report from glasgow. if you want to watch it or share it, you can go to our programme page. coming up: is the government is planning a dramatic crackdown on eu migrant labour after brexit? we‘ll have the
details. our next guest is the great—grandchild of thibaw — the last king of myanmar — who was overthrown by the british and exiled to india in 1885. he‘s in the uk for the very first time since myanmar — also known as burma — gained independence from britain, for the screening of a new documentary. it‘s about the history of the country‘s royal family and how their descendents continue to live there in also complete obscurity. the film coincides with another crisis in myanmar‘s troubled history — the exodus of more than a hundred thousand of the country‘s rohingya muslims who have fled the country after suffering violence at the hands of the military. rohingya muslims who have fled the country after suffering violence at the hands of the military. more on that in a moment. first let‘s have a look at the film. life is a very complicated matter. it isa life is a very complicated matter. it is a surprise to some of them that we are still alive. we are born
with a history. we have to accept.” am the great—grandson of king thibaw. we have a responsibility, because that blood is running in our body. princess margaret, she likes the free life, no? i like her. we lost our identity. the incredible twists and turns their lives to, stranger than any work of fiction. let‘s talk now with the film‘s
director alex bescoby and its subject, great—grandson of the former king, u soe win. thank you both for coming in. alex, i want to ask you first of all why you wanted to make this film. good question. it is bizarre to be sat here with u soe win in london. three yea rs here with u soe win in london. three years ago we first met, and the story started to unfold of what happened to his great—grandfather. and how his family vanished from history. i had been studying burmese history, and i had wanted to tell a particular story, the story of britain in burma. many people in this country really have no idea about our shared history of what an impact we had on this country. and i think a lot of what is happening in
modern myanmar you can trace to its past, obviously. we started making this film three years ago together, and we have ended up here in london, showing him the city that i live in. tell us why you wanted to take part. i know when i was watching the film yesterday, you said in it, i was surprised that you wanted to take part. what was the appeal for you? from the very beginning, we were not much interested. especially since we lost our royalty. but in 2014, when we met this gentleman and also his colleague, they wanted to show our lost families. and then we decided to talk to them, because before, we didn't want to talk about this. i am
very surprised i am here in london. and you didn‘t want to talk about it because it was a painful part of yourfamily history? because it was a painful part of your family history? our family lost everything. when my great—grandfather was 85, only to make daughters, very young, the first and second princess, and the third princess was in her mother's boom, ina third princess was in her mother's boom, in a very late stage, and she was born in madrasahs. —— in her mother's womb. they had objectives we couldn't quite see. they only
found us because we are lost. sometimes we don't know we are lost because we have been forgotten for many years. you a forgotten, and people will find that fascinating to watch this. many people who watch this programme will not be familiar with myanmar‘s history. they may recognise the name aung san suu kyi, whom i know you have met. before we talk about that, how were you treated in your country? —— how are you treated in your country? are you given special status or are people unaware? we are just commoners. at the same time, they have respect. the majority of us are buddhists, and the kings, ourancestors, they we re very and the kings, ourancestors, they were very staunch protectors of the religion. in this city, everyone is busy, but in remote areas, they
still remember this attachment. when we first met, i was looking for him, was sat next to her matter table, and figured it out afterwards. it was that unknown, really. it has been wonderful to go through this three—year journey with been wonderful to go through this three—yearjourney with u soe win, because a lot of it we have been finding out together. we visited india together to see the tomb of his great—grandfather, still in exile, whether british said tim. and we have been sort of finding out more and more about the hidden history of this story. i think it is important to get it out there, because it is a story that‘s really important in myanmar, but also the british people to understand as well. as i say, you have met aung san suu kyi. many people will be familiar, she was under house arrest for many years in myanmar. what is she like as a person and for you to
meet her? we have a personal attachment, i think. meet her? we have a personal attachment, ithink. why meet her? we have a personal attachment, i think. why an i was serving in the foreign service, she was under house arrest. she was meeting a un representative, and during the meetings, i was in charge of protocol matters. i met her at the state guesthouse, welcomed them, introduced the guests. i don't remember how many times we did that, but on one occasion, while we were walking, she asked me, from where iq?i walking, she asked me, from where iq? i said, walking, she asked me, from where iq? isaid, i'm walking, she asked me, from where iq? i said, i'm from the foreign ministry, but i didn't stop there. i saidi ministry, but i didn't stop there. i said i am the nephew of a prince that she knew personally. she
changed, she was smiling, and from then on, when we met,... we look today at what is happening in your country, in myanmar, a huge crisis there right now. second man has —— aung san suu kyi has responded today to the muslims moving over the border to bangladesh. we're very sorry about that. at the same we would like to express that we are a peace—loving country. we all believe that this matter should be brought to an end as soon as possible. do you hope for a quick
end to it? do you think there will be? yes. aung san suu kyi has the confidence of the international community, so we all believe. confidence of the international community, so we all believem confidence of the international community, so we all believe. it is heartbreaking to see. we have been working and living and travelling around myanmar for ten years, working and living and travelling around myanmarfor ten years, making this film for three years, and in that time, i have seen thousands of incidences of kindness and generosity, and i hope some of that comes across in this film. it‘s not the myanmar we want to know will stop and i think it is coincidental that when we were making this film, we had the first credible election in 50 years, and we film someone voting for the first time. we were on the streets. and it is an unimaginable sense of hope for a better future. and i unimaginable sense of hope for a betterfuture. and i think we both hope that myanmar is still on the right track, but there are a lot of
challenges. tell people where they can see the film. that is why we're here. the premier is on saturday at the british library. sold out a month ago, which is great. but we‘re hoping for a uk broadcast after the premiere, and we will take it on tour next year because it is 70th anniversary of myanmar‘s independence from the uk. thank you for coming in. i hope you enjoy your trip to london. get him to show you all the good sites. let‘s get the latest weather. hurricane irma has moved to here so far. you can see the size and extent of the storm, with a well—defined eye. it has been producing winds of 185 mph. gusts over 200 mph. the
winds will be catastrophic from this hurricane. as well as heavy rainfall and a significant storm surge too. it will move across parts of the virgin islands, haiti and the dominican republic, before heading towards cuba and eventually florida by the time we get to the weekend. there could be a storm surge of up to 15 feet, potentially catastrophic impact from hurricane irma in the caribbean. closer to home, a much quieter picture on this side of the atlantic. a bright and breezy day. seems like this one, taken near peterborough. and that is how it stays through the day — bright, breezy, and for most of us, a dry day. a few showers packing into the north and west. scattered showers across north—west scotland, one or two back for ireland, some for north—west england and wales. elsewhere, likely to stay dry and bright. a bit of a breeze from the
west, and it feels fresh and less humid than in recent days. in the afternoon, some of those showers affect northern and western scotland. some sunshine in between. eastern scotland will feel quite pleasant, 17 celsius in aberdeen. that could be a passing shower in parts of northern ireland, but mostly drive through the afternoon. a few isolated showers for cumbria and lancashire. across england and wales, a lot of dry weather. some clout, but it shouldn‘t spoil the sunshine too much. most of us will be dry into the evening hours. and with clear skies and light winds, it will be quite chilly once again. later in the night, more cloud arriving from the west, bringing the north—west some rain. tomorrow, not quite as chilly as it was first thing this morning. through the day,
things start to change because we see wet and windy weather arriving from the north—west. from scotland‘s —— for scotland and northern ireland, a wet and blustery day. further south—east across the uk, you are more likely to say stay dry. with the arrival of this area of low pressure, it marks a change to something more unsettled to end the week. as we move into friday morning, the low pressure sits to the north of the uk, and we will see the north of the uk, and we will see the wind rotating around that low pressure, bringing plenty of blustery showers and more persistent rainfall to southern counties of england. it will be cooler, 14—18dc. low pressure stays into the weekend. sunshine and showers on saturday, but things could turn increasingly wet and windy on sunday. hello, it‘s wednesday, it‘s 10am, i‘m chloe tiley.
the government is looking at ways to dramatically reduce the number of low skilled eu migrants after brexit according to a leaked home office document. we want british companies to do more to train up british workers to do more to improve skills of those who leave our colleges. so there is always a balance to be struck. we‘re not closing the door on all future immigration, but it has to be managed properly. company bosses being faced by being told put british workers fired or you will be taxed if you keep on hiring unskilled eu workers. but critics say such a plan would be disastrous for business. we‘ll discuss that shortly. we look at the new nhs guidelines on how to treat endometriosis — an incurable condition affecting 10% of women which causes extreme pain and often goes undiagnosed. do get in touch if it‘s something you‘ve suffered from. and we‘ll have the latest on one of the strongest storms ever recorded in the atlantic — hurricane irma is the size of texas — and it‘s about to barrel through the caribbean.
the advice has been if you‘re in a flood prone area, get out. like no two—ways about it and obviously those big storm surges are quite dramatic. good morning. here‘s annita in the bbc newsroom with a summary of today‘s news. a leaked home office document has set out plans for how the uk immigration system could work after brexit. the paper, which has been published by the guardian newspaper, considers how the government could dramatically reduce the number of low—skilled eu migrants. it also proposes time limits on how long eu nationals could stay in the uk. the bbc understands the document, which was produced last month, has not been approved by ministers. winds from hurricane irma have begun lashing islands in the caribbean — where people have been told to evacuate their homes. officials are warning of the "potentially catastrophic"
effects of the category five hurricane which has already sustained winds of 180mph. it‘s starting to hit the leeward islands and will move on towards puerto rico and the dominican republic. it‘s projected to reach the us state of florida on saturday. a 14—year—old boy has died after a double shooting in east london. coreyjunior davis and another boy, who is 17,were found with gunshot who is 17, were found with gunshot injuries in forest gate on monday afternoon. the second victim is said to have "life—changing injuries". police have launched a murder investigation. no arrests have been made. russian president vladimir putin has said that north korea‘s nuclear and missile programme are a "flagrant violation" of un resolutions. speaking after talks with his south korean counterpart in the russia city of vladivostok, mr putin also called for talks to try to resolve the crisis, warning that no resolution would be possible with just sanctions and pressure alone. the de facto leader of myanmar,
aung san suu kyi, has claimed that the crisis in rakhine state is being distorted by what she called misinformation. myanmar is currently under intense diplomatic pressure to end the violence its security forces are reportedly inflicting on the rohingya minority. nearly 150,000 people have fled into neighbouring bangladesh. that‘s a summary of the latest bbc news — more at 10.30am. thank you. message are coming in. my ta blet thank you. message are coming in. my tablet is not updating. here‘s some sport now with hugh. wales are still on track to qualify for next year‘s world cup after a 2—0 win in moldova. it was another great night for 17—year—old ben woodburn, who set up kal robson—kanu 10 minutes from time. woodburn scored the winner against austria at the weekend, on his debut for wales. and in injury time, aaron ramsey sealed the win that leaves them second in their group.
we have to make sure we got these wins no matter. we always talk about performance. it has come down to the crunch time and it‘s all about results now. yeah, obviously two wins out of two. we haven‘t done that in a long time. it is great that in a long time. it is great that we have the winning mentality back and hopefully it is a snowball effect for next time. it means wales leapfrog the republic of ireland after they were beaten by group leaders serbia in dublin. former manchester city player aleksander kolarov scored the only goal of the game. the england women‘s coach mark sampson has responded to allegations from former striker eni aluko that he had created an atmosphere of "bullying and discrimination" and used racially insensitive language. sampson was cleared by both an fa and an independent investigation and he says his conscience is clear. he denies aluko‘s claim that he‘d joked he didn‘t want her nigerian family to bring ebola to an england game. i‘ve heard the specifics
of the allegation and at the time we released a statement and to be very clear that i didn‘t say that. i‘m very disappointed the allegation‘s come out but i understand it and all i can say is i didn‘t say that to eni. with any of my communication, my intention is to support the players, give them confidence and give them chance to be successful on the field. at the age of 37, venus williams is two wins away from another grand slam title. she beat petra kvitova in a real thriller to reach the us open semi—finals. it took over two and a half hours and the deciding set went to a tie—break. kvitova only returned to the tour three months ago after the knife attack that damaged her playing hand and williams said it felt like a "special match". this match means a lot to me. i have
been playing at home and of course, it being a major and it means a lot to her coming back and being able to compete in this major and to prove, you know, obhave you beensly to herself that she could defeat anything no matter what is thrown at her. it was amazing to see her shine today. chris froome heads into another day in the hills on the tour of spain today and he‘s nearly two minutes in front. froome won his fourth tour de france injuly, but he‘s never taken the vuelta before. he dominated yesterday‘s time trial to almost double his lead over vincenzo nibali. and before i go, there‘s time to let you know that the bbc get inspired unsung hero award is open for nominations. it‘s designed to recognise those who devote their free time to help people in grass—roots activity and sports and it‘s been expanded this year. you can find everything you need to know at: bbc.co.uk/unsunghero that‘s all the sport for now. i will
be back with more later on. thanks, hugh. the government is looking at ways to dramatically reduce the number of low—skilled eu migrants after brexit according to a leaked home office document. the document, which is not official government policy, suggests capping visas for unskilled labourers at two years. let‘s speak to our political guru, norman smith, what‘s in the leaked document? what's in the leaked document? big thought number one is the government wa nts a thought number one is the government wants a concerted clamp—down on the number of unskilled eu migrants coming into the uk and big thought number two is they want to pressurise companies to have a british workers first policy. now, in detail, what that means is they are going to suggest that if unskilled eu workers want to come to britain, they will only be able to stay for two years. they‘ll have to be earning a certain salary and they can‘t just be earning a certain salary and they can‘tjust come here and look for work, they will have to have a job already lined up and the government is looking at the possibility of just putting a cap, a limit on the
number of unskilled eu migrants who can come here. so there will be x numberand can come here. so there will be x number and once you reach that number, back, the door is closed. in terms of business, business will be under huge pressure to recruit british workers. they may have to under go a sort of test to make sure that they have gone out and tried to recruit british workers and if they then skill want to recruit unskilled eu migrants they could be taxed with the money going to a sort of training levy to help improve the skills of british workers. this is a d raft skills of british workers. this is a draft document. it‘s not signed, sealed and delivered. it‘s not all been agreed, but when you listen to ministers, listen to the defence secretary, sir michael fallon this morning, they are hardly distancing themselves from the contents of this document. it's important we strike a balance. we want more british companies to invest in the british workforce.
to make sure we have a better skilled workforce for them to dau on. we have to strike the right balance. the public want immigration to come down to sustainable levels. we made that clear in every manifesto. so there is a balance to be struck here. the home secretary will set out proposals later this year. when will this kick in? there will bea when will this kick in? there will be a two year transition phase after we leave the eu, after march 2019 when not much will change. if you are an eu national and want to come to britain during the transition phase for more than six months, you‘ll have to get the approval of the home office and you‘ll have to have a sort of id card, a biometric passport to show you‘re ok to be in this country. norman, thank you for clarifying that for us. let‘s get some more analysis on this story now.
joining me in the studio is the conservative mp for dover, charlie elphicke. marley morris from the ippr think tank, which is broadly pro—immigration. alp mehmet is vice—chair of the migration watch think—tank. we are also joined down the line form westminster by the co—leader of the green party, caroline lucas. thank you all for speaking to us this morning. you broadly welcome this morning. you broadly welcome this leaked document?” this morning. you broadly welcome this leaked document? i do, yes. i hope that it remains substantially as it is that it doesn‘t go through any sort of change so it is watered down. if you want to bring numbers down. if you want to bring numbers down frankly from the eu in the way that i think people voted for then this strikes me as a sensible balanced and reasonable way of going about it. focussing on the higher skilled and indeed, making sure that we don‘t bring people in simply because they‘re cheaper or they are
there and prepared to take up the jobs. so yeah, it is the right way and will potentially lead up to 100,000 fewer people coming in over the numbers that we‘ve had in recent yea rs. the numbers that we‘ve had in recent years. i can see marly wincing. there is no detail yet about what this future system for immigration will be and that document doesn't explain that. what it really sets out is what the transition measures will be and the concern there is there is a contradiction between what the transition will be agreed between the eu and the uk for the years after brexit and what this document says about eu migrants because what we are saying in the transition there won't be freedom of moment and that may go down very badly with eu leaders, you know, across the 27. well, freedom of movement is going to end. that goes without saying because that‘s what will happen when we come out of the eu. and once freedom of movement ends then you have got to have some sort of system
to control people coming in and this isa to control people coming in and this is a perfectly reasonable system. if only because we have been doing it for many, many years for those coming from outside the eu anyway. so it‘s nothing new. coming from outside the eu anyway. so it's nothing new. perfectly reasonable system, caroline lucas? absolutely not. this suggested paper is economically illiterate. it will harm our economy. i think it's cruel. it's going to separate families and i think it's also backward looking. i think it will deny future generations the right that all of us had to study and to work and to live and live in 27 other member states. do you want to come in, charlie on this? it seems to me the referendum was a clear instruction by the british people to ta ke instruction by the british people to take back control of our borders and to end uncontrolled eu immigration and that‘s what this government is doing. everyone accepts that we want to have the brightest and the best from across the world. that‘s not the issue. the public concern
centres on low skilled migrants, british businesses, not investing in their employees, but seeking to bring in low skilled migrants as a way to avoid that kind of investment. some people say the eu referendum was about whether you wa nted referendum was about whether you wanted to stay in the union, not about immigration. there was no question on that ballot paper that was about immigration. your constituentsy in dover is a constituency that‘s been affected a lot by migration and benefited a lot as well? it is important to realise that the change that we have in recent yea rs that the change that we have in recent years in 1997 when labour we re recent years in 1997 when labour were first elected net migration was 48,000. in 2015, it reached 333,000. people are deeply concerned. they wa nt people are deeply concerned. they want a rebalancing. they want control of our borders and that is very clearly what the home office are rightly looking at doing. people didn't vote in the referendum to have nursing shortages. people didn't vote to have crops rotting in the fields because that's what will
happen if we don't have people coming in from the eu to help the crop pickers. you know, so essentially i think what we're seeing here is an ideological approach, this idea that the referendum and brexit has to be migration first even if that means damaging our economy. even if that means our own businesses are saying they are going to suffer. the office for budget responsibility are saying this could lead to a £6 billion hole in the economy. not only is it economically foolish, but it will harm our businesses and harm our societies, families not being able to come together. if you happen to have a child over 18, they are not allowed tojoin us have a child over 18, they are not allowed to join us anymore. that's not the kind of country that most people want to live in. this system is intended for the time after we leave. in terms of the sort of arrangements we have two bring people in perhaps the do seasonal agricultural work or otherjobs, what will stop will be that automatic right to come in by
exercising treaty rights and effectively staying here for as long as you like. that will stop. there‘s nothing wrong with that. won't this cause a problem for businesses? norman smith mentioned earlier that if you are in boston in lincolnshire or parts of kent, where fruit picking is a huge industry, and they can‘t get enough local workers to fill positions, will businesses have to recruit locally and when they can‘t recruit —— and when they can‘t, they have to recruit from the eu? know, frankly. that is not the way it‘s going to happen. we had a seasonal agricultural workers scheme for many years and i don‘t see any reason why we shouldn‘t have something like that again. nurses and all the other sort of people that we need at the moment, there is no reason why they shouldn‘t continue to come in. and frankly, we
should now start thinking for three, four years hence and start preparing now. you can‘t wait for three years until the whole transitional phase ends and then think about how we will replace workers. the document fails to recognise that there are some sectors of the economy that are really relying on eu workers. something like 11% in some sectors. food processing, for instance, hospitality, the proportions are much higher. in food processing, we're talking about a third of workers being eu migrants. that is notjust a question workers being eu migrants. that is not just a question of transition but of having to manage how you have a proper workforce for that sector and the long—term. a proper workforce for that sector and the long-term. no one is saying that we shouldn't have a system that enables migrants to come to britain to work where they are highly skilled, where it is seasonal or they are required. why is it wrong to insist that the children of our
land have a chance? it is important to enable people from britain to get on, do well, and we get business to invest in skills and not simply seek to avoid having to invest by bringing in low skilled people, as they have done for too long. thank you, all of you, forjoining us, and caroline lucas as well. i‘m sure the discussion will continue over the next months and years. still to come: the final whistle for john watson as he prepares to call time on his 50 years at the bbc. it‘s a disease that affects 1 in 10 women of reproductive age. yet on average it takes seven and a half years to diagnose endometriosis. the condition costs the uk roughly £8.2 billion a year. endometriosis is an incurable condition, where tissue that behaves like the lining of the womb is found in other parts of the body, causing extreme pain. today, new guidelines have been published for the nhs,
which aim to reduce delays in diagnosis and save women years of unnecessary distress. but a leading charity says the guidelines will only make a difference if they‘re backed up with extra financial support. let‘s speak to amelia davies — she‘s 18 and started getting symptoms of endometriosis at the age ofjust 12. she was diagnosed when she was 14. helen mclaughlin is here too — she‘s 32 and was diagnosed with endometriosis in 2011. and lakshmi livingstone — who waited seven years for any treatment when her symptoms became severe. emma cox runs the charity endometriosis uk — she‘s calling for the nhs to make sure the new guidelines are properly implemented. and andrew home is a professor of gynaecology and is on the group of experts that helped draw up the new guidelines from the national institute of health and care excellence. thank you, all, for coming in to
talk to us. i think many people at home will have heard of endometriosis but they won‘t know how severe it can be for many people. amelia, tell me, first of all, you werejust... sorry! you we re all, you werejust... sorry! you were 12 when you got symptoms first and you were diagnosed at 14. my first period was at 12 and i was experiencing pelvic pain before that age. it wasn‘t until i was 14 and got pain some excruciating that i couldn‘t attend school any more that we pushed for the initial scans which showed up an ovarian cyst, which showed up an ovarian cyst, which led to my operation, which allowed the diagnosis of endometrial asses. unlike some people, i was diagnosed quite quickly, but i was very lucky to have the cyst, because it led to the diagnosis. it sped up
the process? yes, i consider myself lucky, but unfortunately other people as fortunate.” lucky, but unfortunately other people as fortunate. i was diagnosed in 2011. my symptoms started when i was 16, because i had a period every other week, but i was put on the pill. it was 2011 that i was misdiagnosed, and it was only because i wrote letters and kept diaries that i was able to get a diagnostic laparoscopy. what does it do to you? the physical aspect is one thing, but the mental aspect is exhausting. you are fighting every day to get through your painkillers. i was on 25 painkillers a dayjust to try and manage the symptoms. so you have that as well as going to
consultants and making them believe you. it comes down to having to think about what you well, because you get bloating. leggings, i couldn't wear jeans. i you get bloating. leggings, i couldn't wearjeans. i had to have physio to work on my muscles. it comes down to every aspect of your daily life. and i know that you, amelia, alluded to the dreadful time you have had. lakshmi, explain some of your story, if you would.” re ce ntly of your story, if you would.” recently discovered i probably had symptoms from about the age of eight or nine, which was mostly sleep problems. hormonal changes can cause problems. hormonal changes can cause problems with sleep, but my periods we re problems with sleep, but my periods were incredibly painful. i started when i was 11. i didn't know that that wasn't normal, so i lived most of my life just thinking that those sort of pain levels were normal and acceptable. it was only when i started getting extreme bowel pain
around 2009 that i finally thought, hang on, this is weird. it still took another six months for me to go took another six months for me to go to the doctor with it. my gp was fabulous. as soon as i mentioned my symptoms, he said, i fabulous. as soon as i mentioned my symptoms, he said, lam referring you to an endometriosis specialist. from there, i didn't have a diagnostic laparoscopy until to make years ago, at which point i was given the full diagnosis of how widespread my disease is.” given the full diagnosis of how widespread my disease is. i was reading, you were told when you went to an endometrial is his clinic that you should stop eating meat and you we re you should stop eating meat and you were sent away. it was wheat. i was told to change my diet. i was given an mri at that time. it wasn't until 2014 that i realised that you cannot diagnose endometriosis with doing a laparoscopy, keyhole diagnose endometriosis with doing a la pa roscopy, keyhole surgery. diagnose endometriosis with doing a laparoscopy, keyhole surgery. going through your tummy, isn‘t it?
exactly, so that finally happened in 2015, and that is when i discovered it is notjust in my uterus but has spread outside into my general pelvic area. emma, iwant spread outside into my general pelvic area. emma, i want to bring you in. how common are the stories we are heaving? sadly, very common. there are some great examples —— we are hearing. there are some great exa m ples of are hearing. there are some great examples of gps getting a diagnosis early. it is caused by cells being in the wrong place, and in different women, there will be different symptoms. sadly, the isn‘t enough awareness. it is about periods, and often people talk about it. a lot of women get told when they are young just to get on with it and that it is part of being a woman. is a cultural, that no one wants to talk about it? there is some evidence that it about it? there is some evidence thatitis about it? there is some evidence that it is genetic, so you get a double whammy. you are told it hurts, love, just get on with it.
your mother might say, we have bad periods in our family. your mother might say, we have bad periods in ourfamily. that is your mother might say, we have bad periods in our family. that is what is like. it is a hidden disease, there is no measure of it, and you can‘t show anybody what your pain is. so, it is really hard for people, and for whatever reason as a society we have not taken it seriously enough. we have this e—mailfrom money. seriously enough. we have this e—mail from money. if seriously enough. we have this e—mailfrom money. if you have a similar story, do get in touch. i have stage for endometriosis and it has had a huge impact in my life. i was rushed to hospital and had emergency surgery. the doctors thought i had appendicitis. i was in intensive care for ten days. due to the damage caused, i have cysts, fibroids, damaged fallopian tubes andi fibroids, damaged fallopian tubes and i am definitely unable to have children. i am frustrated, sad and angry that if this disease affected men, there would be more awareness, research and money put behind the treatment. would you agree with that, andrew? sadly, this is the
problem. i think endometriosis is suffered because it only affects women. there has been a bit of a gender bias in terms of investment, research funding. i think these guidelines, and hopefully the awareness raised by them, will encourage increased government funding, not only into research but into developing the infrastructure we have already to try to better manage women with endometriosis. seven year diagnosis sounds insane, i‘m sure, to many people watching. do you think the medical profession ta kes do you think the medical profession takes this disease seriously enough? it would be unfair to say they didn't, buti it would be unfair to say they didn't, but i think we could do better. i think we could do better educating from medical school onward, so that people are very much aware of it. as everyone here has highlighted, the big problem is that we don't have a simple test to diagnose it. there is not a blood test or you're in test. it has to be
diagnosed by keyhole surgery. do you think it is taken seriously as a condition? personally, i believe that you can‘t point your finger and say, it is your fault it takes so long to diagnose it. it is a case of being educated. gps and specialist, it is not essentially their fault that there‘s not enough research into it, so they don‘t know enough about it. because of my age, and i started going to specialist appointments from the age of 14, and although i probably know more about this condition and my own body than anybody else, yet, i believe that sometimes it is as if people just
speak to my parents about it. it needs to be taken a bit more seriously, because as a young woman, and like everyone else who has this condition, you want to take charge of your own body, to be able to actively step forward and say, look, something is wrong with me. you need to change this. i can‘t live my day—to—day life like this. sometimes something simple like getting up and having a shower, you can‘t even get up having a shower, you can‘t even get up and do it. it‘s ridiculous. support groups have great information on their website. if anyone is trying to get information to make yourself more knowledgeable to make yourself more knowledgeable to go to your gp, you can then have discussions with them. i run the london group. it is a great way to empower yourself through knowledge. do you think these guidelines will change anything? i hope so. from what i understand, emma 's probably
best answer... from a patient perspective, do you have more faith it will be taken? if you have someone who is not listening, you can take them with you, do your bit of caring and sharing, share your knowledge with this person. they might read it at night time and they might read it at night time and they might share it with someone the next day. it is all about education.” think there was an opportunity to make a difference. we could make it easy for gps by giving them simple toolkits. the royal college could be developing specialist training, which it is. we don't teach menstrual health in schools, so people don't know what to look out for. i would like to say that the guidelines at the moment are only for england. there was huge variation in service across england and across the uk, so we also need to see the other nations in the uk taking up these guidelines as well.
in northern ireland, i know people who have been waiting over two years to get a laparoscopy done. that's not because of any reason other than that there are not enough slots allowed because the nhs hasn't yet taken this seriously and allowed enough time to deal with the women who need to be seen. thank you, all, for coming in. i am grateful to you for coming in. i am grateful to you for coming in. i am grateful to you for coming in. still to come: a warning from school leaders that poor language and behaviour mean an increasing number of children are not ready to take part in classroom activities when they start school. as hurricane irma, one of the strongest storms ever recorded in the atlantic, heads for the caribbean we‘ll have an update on preparations from antigua. with the news, here‘s annita in the bbc newsroom. a leaked home office document has set out plans for how the uk immigration system could work after brexit. the paper, which has been published by the guardian newspaper, considers how the government could dramatically reduce the number of low—skilled eu migrants.
it also proposes time limits on how long eu nationals could stay in the uk. the bbc understands the document, which was produced last month, has not been approved by ministers. winds from hurricane irma have begun lashing islands in the caribbean — where people have been told to evacuate their homes. officials are warning of the "potentially catastrophic" effects of the category five hurricane which has already sustained winds of 180mph. it‘s starting to hit the leeward islands and will move on towards puerto rico and the dominican republic. it‘s projected to reach the us state of florida on saturday. a boy has died after a shooting in east london. coreyjunior davis and another boy, who is 17, were found with gunshot injuries in forest gate
on monday afternoon. the second victim is said to have "life—changing injuries". police have launched a murder investigation. no arrests have been made. the de facto leader of myanmar, aung san suu kyi, has claimed that the crisis in rakhine state is being distorted by what she called misinformation. myanmar is currently under intense diplomatic pressure to end the violence its security forces are reportedly inflicting on the rohingya minority. nearly 150,000 people have fled into neighbouring bangladesh. that‘s a summary of the latest news, join me for bbc newsroom live at 11 o‘clock. thank you. here‘s some sport now with hugh. 17—year—old ben woodburn came off the bench and put in a man of the match performance to help wales to a 2—0 win over moldova. he set—up the opening goal for hal robson kanu. aaron ramsey got the second in the closing moments. that win, coupled with defeat for the republic of ireland at home to serbia, means wales go into the play—off spot in group d with two qualifiers remaining.
the sides meet in the final group game. at the age of 37, venus williams is into another grand slam semi—final. she beat petra kvitova in a thrilling final set tiebreak to reach the last four at the us open. she will face fellow american sloane stephens next. chris froome virtually doubled his lead at the vuelta a espa na yesterday. he won the 16th stage time trial to extend his lead over vincenzo neebali to one minute and 58 seconds with five stages to go. that‘s all the sport for now. i will be back with more on bbc news after 11am. a 14—year—old boy who was gunned down in an east london double shooting has died. our reporter chi chi izundu is here. what happened ? what happened? the details on this incident are scant, but the police launched a murder investigation. he died in hospital around 10pm last night. apparently he, this was a double shooting. it happened on
monday afternoon. he was injured as was a 17—year—old who has got what police are describing as life changing injuries and he remains in hospital in a stable condition. no arrests have been made yet, but police are appealing for help. and what have the police said? what do they know? i know there is a fear of retaliation? the borough commander said there is a serious fear of retaliation and therefore, what they have done is they have put a number of armed and plained clothed police officers in the area and they have increased stop and search incidents for weapons and anything else that‘s going on in the area and to reassure residents as well. they are only too aware this incident comes after a spate of violent firearm discharges that have been blighting their communities and seriously injuring their young men. so communities and seriously injuring theiryoung men. so far communities and seriously injuring their young men. so far there has been a number of gun incidents in
and around the newham area. there was one even at the end ofjuly that had been taking place in less than 24 hours where two men were injured. but the concern with this particular incident is the violent nature under which it went and the age of the victim because he was only 14. thank you. school leaders are warning that increasing numbers of children are not ready to take part in classroom activities when they start school. some are lacking basic communication skills. a survey carried out by the association for school leaders, naht, and the family and childcare trust, found 86% of headteachers were concerned that children being ready for school is worse now than five years ago. joining us now, andy mellor, headteacher of st nicholas church of england primary school, is concerned at the lack of services available to support families and children in need of extra help before they start at school. lynn knapp, headteacher of windmill primary school thinks children using phones and gadgets isn‘t helping with
development or behaviour. parentjohn adams in concerned at the social skills of children going to school. he is joined by his four—year—old daughter izzy who will start in reception class next week. hi izzy. a lovely wave. thank you very much. i want to ask first of all,anedy, when we say children aren‘t ready for school. we‘re talking about four—year—olds. children who have just turned four. so what is it that they are not ready for? when children enter school we need to be making sure that we hit the ground running with them. they have got seven years in primary school. and we need to make the most of that time in primary school. basic skills such as being able to take your coat off, basic things like having a conversation with another child. all the early literacy skills. i mean we do an
audit with our families just to make sure that we know what we are getting in terms of the needs of these children. basic literacy and basic understanding of what a book is, how to follow through the plot line if you like in a picture book. all those sorts of basic skills, particularly speech and language skills. we are seeing, our members are seeing, across the country, deceasing and us having to do more work in reception to actually make good that and then, of course, the work that we have got planned for foundation stage and beyond that into the national curriculum, there is that to do as well. so, it‘s actually increasing the workload if you like for the staff in reception when these children really should be accessing the curriculum that we‘ve got planned for them from day one. lyn, are you finding similar things? children don‘t recognise a book and can‘t hold a conversation with another child? yes, we do see that with some children coming in. it is a broad picture. we have children
coming in very ready for school. other children coming in with very little language and i think it is that deficit of language which can bea that deficit of language which can be a real inhibitor for them starting to access education. you are saying this is down to, what lazy parenting, shoving a tablet or phonein lazy parenting, shoving a tablet or phone in front of a four—year—old and not having a conversation? not necessarily lazy parenting. and not having a conversation? not necessarily lazy pare nting. parents are under pressure with both parents working particularly in oxford, on the whole two parents are working. yes, doi the whole two parents are working. yes, do i think children are given a tablet, a phone and in the last five years, those things weren't available. children didn't have that easy access to smartphones, smart technology and i think it has opened up technology and i think it has opened upa technology and i think it has opened up a whole new way of if you like keeping children occupied. it is a very isolating type activity then they are not conversing with other children in the home and that
vocabulary and language just by being in conversation and talking to each other isn't happening. john, i know you have got an older daughter. is she eight? have you noticed that? that‘s the beginning of the ipad generation. my eldest is eight and she started playing with an ipad when she was two. do you recognise what you are hearing from lyn? 0h, absolutely. it is very interesting that we are at the end of the school summer. izzy is saying hello. it is interesting that we are just at the end of the school summer holidays now. i have noticed a marked difference with my children. the battle for screen time used to be keeping your children away from cartoons. now, partly because of the, the developments in technology, but also partly i think because, my other daughter is getting older, what they are trying to do with technology is different, it is not just car teens, it is apps, cartoons and youtube videos as well as tv. one of the common battles that we
have as parents is we do our best to tell our children not to watch tv, you turn your back for a minute, they are playing with an ipad or they are playing with an ipad or they have managed to get your phone or something. there is this constant battle to keep your kids away from screens. i do notice if my children, i really, really dislike children having excessive screen time so i limit it as much as i can, but if it has been a rainy day and the kids have a lot of screen time i notice a marked difference in their behaviour. worse behaviour? they are not burning off energy. they are not really thinking so when the screens get switched off, i do notice they are much more excitable. they are bouncing off the walls, basically, we have experienced that on a rainy day. do you think parents are being lazy? we can all say no, you can‘t
have a tablet in the car. we will discuss as we are driving along or walking to the bus or whatever it maybe. is this laziness? that's not what our survey is telling us. our survey tells us that this coincides with a major change in the funding of things like children‘s centres. we lost a lot of those services for families in parts of the country, very similar to blackpool, where you know, they need that level of support and that got cut with the first round of funding cuts to local authorities. schools did their best to make that good and similarly, we have a family support worker in school. we didn‘t have a family support worker five years ago, but that‘s to meet a need, the needs of ourfamily and ourfamilies in school. if we‘re now finding that, you know, the cuts to school budgets are now affecting the ability of schools to be able to fund family support workers. so we haven‘tjust
lost children‘s centres and all the wrap around ca re lost children‘s centres and all the wrap around care that went on before they came to school and supported families, we are now having that infrastructure that we have built in schools taken away because of the funding cuts to schools and speech and language is huge. you know, it comes through loud and clear in the survey. we‘ve had to cut £20,000 worth of speech and language therapy that we put in place to make good the cuts to the local authority. now, we can‘t afford to do that anymore. we haven‘t got the money in the budget to do that. the only a nswer to the budget to do that. the only answer to address all of this is to put that support back in in the early years and support early years settings and schools with this. andy, thank you. we have to ask izzy if she is excited about school. izzy, are you looking forward to starting school next week? yes. what is it that you like best? is it reading? is it numbers? what is it, darling? numbers. numbers. she has just dived into a book while we have
been on air though. good girl. she has been drilled well by her father. izzy, thank you for sitting so beautifully. bye izzy. hurricane irma has strengthened to a category five storm — the highest possible level and has in its path a string of caribbean islands, puerto rico, haiti, cuba and then florida. these are pictures from nasa. the national hurricane centre in miami is recording sustained winds of nearly 300 kilometres, more than 186mph. a state of emergency has been declared in florida, puerto rico and the us virgin islands. i spoke with gemma handy, a journalist and resident of antigua and angel adames—corraliza, a tropical meteorologist with family in puerto rico who told me about the impact hurricane irma has already been having. the winds are # 5 to 90mph. we can
expect them to pick up to 150mph and hopefully they should start to lessen around 5am or 6am which is a couple of hours from now. we are getting reports that several roofs have sadly been blown off including an entire apartment building roof in one area of antigua. biggest cause of concern right now is we seem to have lost contact with our sister island. they are getting the full force of this right now. they are in the eye. that should be coming to a close soon and then they are going to get the 185mph winds happening again shortly. we will be grateful when we get news back. what's been the advice to people who are in antigua? are you sitting in your home, your office right now? no, we‘re broadcasting live from the local radio station. we have stuck two stations together. we have been broadcasting live for 12—and—a—half hours and taking calls from the
public trying to reassure people and giving them constant weather updates from local metolgists and from our expert in florida as well. are people told to go to shelters or stay in their home, what‘s the advice been? if you are in a flood prone area, get out. like no two—ways about it. and obviously those big storm surges are dramatic andi those big storm surges are dramatic and i mean there has been strong encouragement, but people generally know because people are used to being ina know because people are used to being in a hurricane area here, most people have gone to shelters. there is 43 across the islands and 42 in antigua and 200 people are in some which for antigua is unprecedented. i want to bring you in. you are a tropical meteorologist. i know you are in seattle, but you have got family in puerto rico, who are concerned right now? that's right. what have they told you about the preparations they have been making?
when i talked to my family, friends and other people today, people are taking this very seriously. hurricane irma is pretty much unprecedented when it comes to hurricanes in the antilles. there has been a bit of a freak out this morning, but that has been helpful in a sense because it has brought people to realise that they really have to get ready for this hurricane. people have been putting storm shutters on their houses, wooden panels. pretty much all the wooden panels have been sold out from markets. people have stocked up on supplies to the point that there is a shortage of food in supermarkets. people are heading to their homes, not going out on the street. people in flood prone areas are advised to go to shelter. i suspect that a lot of people will do so. at this point, in the middle of the night, in puerto rico, i suspect that people are waiting to see what is happening tomorrow morning.
give us a sense of context. people following the news in the last week will be familiar with hurricane harvey, but this is bigger, isn‘t it? it is a different situation from harvey. harvey was not a category five hurricane but a category four. the big impact from harvey was the fact that it slowed down and stayed stationary over texas. hurricane irma is a different situation, in which we have a bigger size of storm with much stronger winds, and it is moving more quickly, so when it comes to impact, the impacts from hurricane irma will not just be floods. but you will also possibly have a surge, and wind damage, especially for the areas directly in the part of the hurricane. people are using words like catastrophic — explain a storm surge and the impact
it could have. it is a rise in the average sea level. usually, at the beach, the ocean is ata certain usually, at the beach, the ocean is at a certain distance from the shore and the houses and so on, but when you have a hurricane coming in, the wind tends to cause the water to rise. the number of feet you see forecasters is the number of feet above the average water level that we will see. this doesn't count waves, which will occur on top of that. gemma, do you get a sense that people are worried about this like no other hurricane, that this is unprecedented? yes, pretty much. as i say, people here are
unprecedented? yes, pretty much. as i say, people here are generally used to being in a hurricane area, but there is definitely a sense that this is like nothing they have ever experienced, and people have been comparing it to hurricane lewis. it is certainly dramatic. people here tend to take things in their stride quite well, so some people are calling in a little panicky, others are more gung ho about it. some people have even been sharing light—hearted stories, so it is a mixture. you seem pretty relaxed. give us a sense of what is going outside, for people who haven‘t experienced a hurricane. can you hear building is moving? we're lucky because we are in a bit of a bunker at the station. it is a very sturdy, concrete building, and we are on a bit of a hill as well. other people have reported their building physically shaking, saying they feel like the roof is coming off, very dramatic conditions. we feel a little sheltered from it here, and
we are trying hard to keep other people come, so that is helping keep us come too. angel, tell us what the path will be for hurricane irma over the next few hours. as a meteorologist, explain what that path will be. right now, the hurricane has made up turn to the we st hurricane has made up turn to the west north—west, which is what we we re west north—west, which is what we were expecting. as it goes in the next couple of days, it will make a close approach to several of the islands of the lesser antilles. it will probably approach puerto rico at some point tomorrow. it should continue steadily in pretty much a straight path, west northwest, at about 50 mph. and eventually to florida? that is what the current hmmﬁ florida? that is what the current forecast is calling. it could be at some point on sunday. there is some
uncertainty about that. there is a lack of consensus about different models. but the model agree that it will probably impact at some point over the weekend, yes. personally, i you worried about your family in puerto rico? i can't say that i'm not, write? when i woke up this morning and i saw that hurricane irma had become a category five hurricane with 170 mph sustained winds, it's really hard to keep it together. i immediately called my family and saw how they were doing, if they were getting prepared. the current track forecasts that it will barely miss the island, so i am really crossing my fingers about that, because if that happens, at least the strongest winds will remain offshore. it does not mean it won't be a threat. there is the threat of tropical to hurricane force winds. i am still concerned about them. i told them i am going
to call them tomorrow, and i've i think the situation will get worse, i will tell them to seek shelter. for now, they have put storm shutters on the house, they have readied the whole yard and everything, just to make sure that there isn't anything that could get in the way and damage our house. that was gemma and angel, speaking to me earlier about hurricane irma. some ofjohn motson‘s greatest moments from his career as a commentator. he‘s calling his final match at the end of the season. before that though, he‘s been talking to our sports editor dan roan. dan asked him what the key to being able to commentate was. we will hear more from him in a moment, but first, some of his career highlights. radford for newcastle. bradford again. oh, what a goal! what they goal! ronnie ra dford.
a goal! what they goal! ronnie radford. the crowd — the crowd are invading the pitch. and there it is will stop the crazy gang had beaten the culture club. wimbledon have destroyed liverpool‘s dreams of the double. her royal highness supports one of the great cup shocks of all time. platini through the middle... goal! platini, for franz, with a minute to go. it is 3—2. i have not seen events like this in years. he cannot be shaken. in the end, the german bench get up to protest that gascoigne‘s last challenge. oh, dear. oh, dear me. he‘s going to be
out of the final if england get there. for the tackle on number 14, gascoigne has had his second yellow ca rd of gascoigne has had his second yellow card of the competition, and here is a moment that almost brings tears to his eyes. free kick given. his arms are apt. is it over? it is. it‘s dramatic, it‘s delightful. it‘s denmark who are the european champions. he has been speaking to our sports editor, dan, who asked them what is the secret to his commentary. it is like saying to your postman, how do you prepare the letters? people don‘t need to know that, do they? and people didn‘t need to know that i was spending two days in this office banging myself over the head with who the substitute was going to be for this team on saturday. they only wanted... they were only concerned with the end product, and i had to make that as good as i could. presenter: if ever you thought that we sporting commentators always sit nicely warm in our commentary
box, that isjohn motson, reporting for us tonight on the southend— liverpool match, looking rather like an orphan in the storm. we are sending out a st bernard to rescue him. the big breakthrough game for you was that big ‘72 cup match. ronnie‘s goal... without that, would you be here? it changed my life. newcastle winning1—0 with five minutes to go. commentator: now tudor has gone down for newcastle. radford again. oh, what a goal! what a goal! radford, the scorer. ronnie radford. and the crowd... the crowd are invading the pitch. whenever i meet ronnie radford, i say, you changed my life, ronnie. and he said, that goal changed my career, which it did. and when they drag it out on cup weekend, and i hear myself commentating on that goal, and i remember when he hit it and it was flying towards the top corner of the net, and when i see it again, as i have hundreds of times, i still think to myself,
please, go in, don‘t hit the post. if that hadn‘t nestled in the newcastle net, i wouldn‘t be here now. i‘m afraid that mark west and martin o‘neill are going to have to wait a few days longer if they‘re going to add another chapter to wycombe‘s famous cup history, because as you can see, this part of buckinghamshire is absolutely snowbound, and there is a gale hurtling around me now. the sheepskin coat has sort of entered folklore now. when you first... it seems like such... it is such a normal thing to do, to have a warm overcoat. did you think at the time it could be your trademark? no, ididn‘t. i bought it for the warmth. because you couldn‘t buy a sheepskin full—length coat. it was only a jacket you could get in the shops. so i started having these made—to—measure. people started saying, you are the bloke in the sheepskin. where were you when you were in the snow? and that is when it grew. i didn‘t set out to make that a trademark, honestly. but it hasn‘t done me any harm. we can‘t get down there to actually find out what has happened, but i think trevor brooking is next to me.
well, he is next to me! i did my first—ever commentary for bbc television from this very gantry, and in those days,, nobody had heard of the internet, although i can vouch for the fact that i did say once upon a time, it‘s in the net. what do you think made you a great commentator, looking back now? well, i can‘t say great. i think you‘ve got to be passionate about it. i also feel you‘ve got to remember as well that it‘s only part of life, you know. while people are listening to football matches or commentating on them, there are people going to the cinema, the theatre and reading books. i think one or two people tend to forget that. i was going to say it was like being paid for your hobby. that‘s what people always say to me. but there is a little bit of hard work involved. you know, the preparation and the homework, and watching players and going to see games so that you can do the one you were going to do next a bit better, it was a challenge, but it was a challenge that i always enjoyed.
john watson is going to end his 50 year career with the bbc at the fa cup final next year. bbc newsroom live is coming up next. thank you for your company today. have a good day. variable cloud going into thursday morning. it could be quite chilly. a bright start many of us. the crowd and cook —— the cloud increases from the and west, moving through northern ireland, scotland and eventually into north—west england. the south—east stays largely fine and dry. see you in half an hour. this is bbc news and these are the top stories
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