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tv   Outside Source  BBC News  September 25, 2017 9:30pm-10:01pm BST

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hello, i'm ros atkins, this is outside source live from berlin. we are not too used to seeing angola merkel and the back foot but that's what she is at the moment. angela merkel looks set for a fourth term as german chancellor — but it's her party's worst result in 70 years. the spd of martin schulz also lose votes and are quick to announce they were quitting the grand coalition to head into opposition. the far right afd were the big winners — coming third in the polls. butjust a few hours later they were already squabbling amongst themselves. the alternative for germany is now the third biggest
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party in this country. it's anti immigration, anti islam and anti merkel. its vote exceeded most polls and reached 12.6%. over a million voters left the christian democrats for the afd. almost half a million from the social democrats did the same. co—leader alexander gauland repeated today a key message. he said "we say i don't want to lose germany to an invasion of foreigners from a different culture." but national representation brings with it a new level of pressure — and already the afd is showing the strain. at the the same news conference another party leader, frauke petry, said she'd notjoin the afd's parliamentary group because of "disagreement over content". and she said this. an anarchic party
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translation: it's been said that the afd has become an anarchic party, that could only be successful in opposition, not to govern. but i want to make real politics, so i've decided i will not be part of the afd in the bundestag. let's take a closer look at the afd result with the help of this map. 60% of afd voters voted "against all other parties". backing up that idea that this was a rejection of something more than one party or one policy. but 86% of its voters believe the party does not distance itself enough from "extreme right positions". this party has become the primary
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story of this election. earlier today i spoke to hugh bronson — who's a local afd politician here in berlin — about whether some of the extreme comments from afd members alienate sections of the country. there are certainly words and uttera nces there are certainly words and utterances made by some representatives in the afd but did not help the cause. instead of talk about politics and what we want to achieve, we had talked about personal issues. what did this personal issues. what did this person mean by this can explain this to us. it is almost extracted debates and talk shows from the real issues which is our party programme. when not talking about any person, will talk about alexander garland, one of the most prominent members of the afd, he said german soldiers in the afd, he said german soldiers in the first such was to be proud of they did. do you agree? no, that's they did. do you agree? no, that's the loan quote. he said the same way
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the loan quote. he said the same way the fans are pile of napoleon and the fans are pile of napoleon and the british turtle, we can be proud of german soldiers in the first and second world wars. he didn't say what they achieved, no. i think you made it difficult to us to convince the voters to be on board. you can't explain this to thejewish community because they will say this is not exactly what we had hoped to come from the afd. had you exchange for the jewish community that you use phrases that the lying press which was a nazi term. there are lots of terms used by nazis. rory best to avoid them? it goes back further. it was in the weimar republic that got coin. you also used in nazi term for german people. you know full well that was a time which the nazis used? it was a term used by frauke
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petry, i'm glad she has distanced herself from the party. we will see what her future will hold for her. this seems to be too convenient, every time i say to you this phrase oi’ every time i say to you this phrase or that prose was unhelpful, you me was it just or that prose was unhelpful, you me was itjust that individual. do you think voters are distinguishing between alexander and what you say and what afd says, i dimly are, they are the trimming bits from —— i don't think they are, they are hearing this from afd. —— i don't think they are, they are hearing this from afdi —— i don't think they are, they are hearing this from afd. 5 million people give us our votes. that is a response that people want to see us in parliament, presenting opposition. what do you want to achieve we want to challenge angela merkel. there is a commission from the bundestag saying the opening of borders might have been illegal. they want clarification. we want a commission to look into this, what has really happened, does this agree
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with constitutional law with our federal law, or has some violation happened. why was parliament never consulted at the legality of the 20 15th decision, what else? we have 12,000 people in berlin whose claim for asylum has been rejected. these people are not being deported. why not? if it is clear for legal reasons they are not entitled to asylu m reasons they are not entitled to asylum because they are economic migrants or whatever all come from countries with our secure countries, they should not be in the city, why does that not happen? we have to tackle this issue, challenge angela merkel to obey the law. what about the bail out clause, why is greece being supported with 248 billion euros? the bailout clause says this is not about to happen and should not happen. i understand your concern. what is the afd‘s policy, what would you do this economy to
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improve the lives of those lower income families who have to do 1—3 jobs. they have not heard that detail. i've heard immigration, terminology from germany's nazi past, other generalisations about the live press, i haven't heard anything about economic plans the experience these people? that's the problem. no one has asked us what you want to achieve. they are all focused on this is what someone said, here's what some one third. with respect, mr bronson, you know full well frauke focused on immigration, and anti—islam message, that is why people have not got the eco—plans because you haven't communicates‘s it online, if you have a programme ofa it online, if you have a programme of a hundred pages, we explain. but you haven't talked about it. this
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has never been asked on talk shows. we ask about the economy. do you accept that all these policies you listed in the last couple of minutes have completely overshadowed by the fa ct have completely overshadowed by the fact that afd talks about the lying press, the afd talks about islam not belonging in germany, it talks about an invasion of foreigners, when your party uses language like that, the rest is completely overshadowed? it's because the other parties are social democrats, the christian democrats that the greens, they don't talk about these issues. they don't. there was never a big discussion about security or opening borders, is this legal, can we do this, how can we have these people? now a party like has comes along and says they are going to address this. let me read you one last thing from one of your colleagues is the germans were the only people in the world who planted the memorial of shame in the heart of the capital,
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talking about the holocaust memorial in berlin. do you wish that royal hampden built? no. i don't wish that. are you uncomfortable that one of your party members is saying it. it's a quote from people who said that if you used earlier. if you wa nt that if you used earlier. if you want more information about the german election coming go to our website or our app. i will be back with more on this story in a moment. keep those questions coming, we will come to them in ten minutes. japan's prime minister has called a snap election for next month. shinzo abe says he wants fresh term. may not be unrelated to the fact he's polling well. you wonder if he considered that the same applied to theresa may
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when she called a snap election. anyway — here's our japan correspondent rupert wingfield—hayes. i think the first thing to say is that this announcement from sinn soave comes as a surprise to nobody, because various politicians have then the king to the japanese media for the last week or so, so everything he announced today was expected. the question is why it is sinn soave going a year early, there are number of answers. one is that his popularity has taken a boost in the last couple of miles because perhaps the north korea missile crisis. mr mrabe mr abe has taken a tough stance and stood with the us during the growing tension. that appears to at least have had an impact on his popularity which had taken a real bashing in
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the first half of this year. mr abe was committed to different scandals and his poll ratings have fallen. it's possible he is going now because he is concerned about a new party formed in japan. the because he is concerned about a new party formed injapan. the governor of tokyo is very popular and she has said she is setting up a nationwide party to take on the ruling liberal democratic party. so by going now, abe is not giving her time to establish a nationwide party. but it's a risk for shinzo abe. he currently have two thirds majority with his coalition parties in the houses of parliament with beauty can pass any legislation he wants. going to the polls, he risks losing those majorities and that was put in jeopardy his desire to change the
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constitution of japan and perform at the step down sometime in the next few years, probably around 2020. he could be punished because a lot of japanese voters will not be happy. this is the third general election that has been called by shinzo abe in less than five years. there is a great deal of voter fatigue, people feel though in elections injapan and its a waste of money. the north korean foreign minister has accused the united states of declaring war on his country. responding to the comments directed at kimjong—un by donald trump at the united nations last week, ri yong ho said north korea had every right to defend itself militarily. translation: as you already know, for the last few days, the un and the international society sincerely wish the war of words between the dprk and the united states does not turn into a real action. however,
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last weekend, trump claimed our leadership would not be around much longer. and hence, at last, he declared war on our country. given the fact that this comes from someone who is currently holding the seat of the united states presidency, this is clearly a declaration of war. all the member states participating in the united nations and the whole world should clearly remember that it was the united states who first declared war on our country. the un charter stipulates individual member states rights to self defence. since the us declared war on our country, we have every right to get take countermeasures including shooting down us strategic bombers even when they are not yet inside the airspace
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border of our country. the question of who will not be around much longer will be answered them. people in the iraqi region of kurdistan have voted in a referendum on independence. these are some of the pictures we have from polling stations earlier. local media has put the turn out at 78%. counting has started— and the final results are expected in the next 72 hours. voting took place in the three provinces of iraqi kurdistan, as well as disputed areas that are claimed by the kurds — and the government in baghdad. kurds make up 15 to 20% of iraq's population of 37 million. as an ethnic group it's the fourth—largest in the middle east — but one that has never had a permanent nation state. iraq's government has opposed the vote all along — the prime minister who called it "unconstitutional". turkey's president is also opposed. translation: nobody can expect us to
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allow a new area of crisis in complex near our borders. our attitude on this issue is clear, we deemed the referendum null and illegitimate. but the president of iraqi kurdistan was confident— saying a yes vote will be a first step towards ending the "failed partnership" with what he calls the "theocratic, sectarian state" of iraq. tom bateman is covering this. he sent this update after polls closed. celebrations have been taking place here all night in you will remember this is the capital of this region. it was never in question whether or not people here would vote yes for independence was remember, this vote is not binding. and it has been deeply contentious, the international community has said it is ill timed. they believe it
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distracts from the fight against so—called islamic state. meanwhile the central government in baghdad has tried furiously to prevent the vote from taking place. now it has done, its parliament calls for troops to be sent for some of the disputed areas around this region. meanwhile, neighbours of this particular part of the world, turkey and iran, that have sizeable kurdish minorities, have threatened economic sanctions so president barzani of this region finds the hopes of these people raised for the cost of much international support. more on uber being refused a new license in london. all the mood music points towards this getting sorted. uber‘s appealing — but its boss of uber has now apologised for mistakes it's made. simon gompertz has more. is because of its approach to reporting serious criminal offences
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by drivers, and also amongst other things, how drivers did their background checks that they had to do, those are things to apologise for this but it has to be seen in the context of this chief executive of people worldwide, has only been brought in in the last few weeks to bring up the company ‘s image after scandals in the us. he says deal and others, i apologise for the mistakes we have made. we must change, they will do that with humility, they will work with londoners to make things right. this is a huge change from last week when they were told they would lose their licence and reacted in a hostile fashion saint london was opposed to innovation. what happens next? sadiq khan has reacted by saying that transport for london, the licensing authority, should sit down with number and have talks so on but will be hoping the result is state will alter that procedures and
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get the license back. but this court case will also happen because only by appealing that uber, they lose their licence on saturday, can carry on operating pats a month. —— perhaps four months. back to the german elections. there will be a right—wing national party represented in the bundestag for the first time. the bundestag is diversifying, with six parties for the first time. angela merkel has received a setback, her blue party's results nosedive compared to the last election, she will continue as chancellor but she is politically diminished. then more problems for the centre—left party, we see in this and other centre—left to limerick in european countries. but the two big parties, they get 80%
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that they only got 50%. the ce ntre—left that they only got 50%. the centre—left has some serious thinking to do. let's bring in our policy analyst. lots of people sending us questions, that's worked through some of them. one coming up a lot, how many terms could merkel serve? given the constitution she ca nt serve? given the constitution she cant serve until she dies. but my guess is this will be final term. she said she never wanted to conquer helmut kohl who was there for 16 yea rs, helmut kohl who was there for 16 years, then outvoted in a humiliating way so i think she's quite aware of the fact that this should be herfinal term as you quite aware of the fact that this should be her final term as you say, rightly so, she lost significantly, she will be under heavy pressure from her party to do something, to get the cdu back into power. is it a live issue that perhaps is not good for any country to have a leader for
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this long? we had surprisingly in the last week of the election campaigna the last week of the election campaign a discussion and the consensus in the parliament that we should change the terms extended from four years to five years, then give a from four years to five years, then givea limit from four years to five years, then give a limit of maximum two terms like the us president for a german chancellor and then a new one has to step up. george is watching in the uk on bbc news and once asked to what degree that globalisation played a role, frustrations with it? it was bowled. on the one hand we are happy to be the export champion of the world and this is based on globalisation so we are benefiting from the eu and free markets and that was always a big topic of the big parties. at the same time, globalisation brings a lot of influences into your own country, in your own court here and the refugee issue and the migration issue in a very complicated mixture, giving
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people the feeling that something is changing and they don't fill co mforta ble changing and they don't fill comfortable even they can't really tell what it is. it seems there are some echoes of what was seen in the uk and france and the us, people say my country is relatively wealthy compared to the rest of the world but actually, there are people towards the bottom of the pay scale who aren't benefiting from that growth. exactly. there was a main message, we are living in the best times germany has seen, but com pletely times germany has seen, but completely ignores that our people in this country who have to do two jobs and still can't afford a decent living. these have not been addressed. the social democrats tried to do so but they did not really get through to the message. this i think is their chance in opposition to come up with the real comprehensive approach of how to address these issues. there was one from carol. i've been asked this a few times from shore. our germans
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are seeing the consequences of allowing a million migrants? do what degree would do we draw the straight lines on the 2015 decision and the result we saw? i wouldn't say the issue of the migrants coming to germany was the problem but the question of the communications or how we dealt with it. we have seen in the interview with the representative of the afd, place claim for themselves and i think in a way rightly so, to address the issues pressuring the people. we needed more open and diverse discussion about these issues, explain to people why we are benefiting, the same with the eurozone. there was this narrative of we are paying for greek debt, but in the way, no one was telling german banks are making money with the crisis. this is some kind of disconnect between we are benefiting from globalisation and at the same time, we have the feeling we have to ca ptu re time, we have the feeling we have to capture ourselves from the rest of
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the world. enter the last couple of minutes now. and with a few practicalities. when do we actually see the new members of the bundestag gathering, when will we see the afd walking into the parliament? the constitution says this has to happen within 30 days. the constitution of the new parliament has to be done by october. but there is no limit when the new government has to be built. we have seen this four years ago, it took till early december and my bet is we won the new government by christmas, maybe even by easter. while that is all going on, merkel continues as the chancellor and it's business as usual until the new government is agreed? exactly. the ruling government right now, cdu and spd are still in power and the ministers will stay, but it will be interesting because from the moment yesterday after 6pm, martin schulz jumped into the opposition leader
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position, talking about the opposition and behaving it. merkel was concerned and quite disappointed ina way, was concerned and quite disappointed in a way, to see her partner who's she will need in this very aggressive mode, and this will be interesting times now to see how they can deal with business as usual. thank you for guiding us through the story. thanks for sending in your questions. there we re sending in your questions. there were some who said this german election did not require a whole lot of attention, it was going to be more of the same, is angela merkel would win and we would go on with our business, but it's thrown up a fascinating result with the occasion for years, and we will continue to cover those ramifications and bbc news. thanks for watching, goodbye. later this week we will get more
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movement in our weather, everything coming in from the atlantic movement in our weather, everything coming in from the atlantic and settled. the outlook particularly uncertain i'll explain why. the weather is slow—moving, all or nothing on monday. lovely sunshine but many parts of country with grey and no cloud. a dell misty and foggy start on tuesday but things will brighten up, things will break through the cloud, getting one or two light showers in scotland and eastern england but on the whole, a dry day. with some sunshine coming through, temperatures up to 21 of the south east even with the cloud, 18 degrees is above par for this time of the year. a lot of the cloud around into overnight but not quite as much mist, fog or low cloud because we are dreaming some dry air in from the south—east, those temperatures remaining around 12—13d overnight. heading into wednesday, the drier area and sunshine in the south east, we have some weather
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systems coming in from the west, bringing patchy rain to northern ireland, wales and the south—east, further north east may well be dry and a bright day. sunshine coming through. it will feel pleasantly warm as well, perhaps 22 degrees temperatures but not warm and if the rain. the weather system is strung out across the uk and goes eastward overnight, initially some heavy bursts of rain but things we can along that weather front so the rain becomes lighter and more patchy, clearing from eastern england in the morning, lingers in scotland and most morning, lingers in scotland and m ost pla ces morning, lingers in scotland and most places dry and bright with sunshine, but there's more rain behind me and that will push in during the friday, particularly costs more western parts of the uk. again, everything to make from the atla ntic again, everything to make from the atlantic looking rather unsettled. that weather system again, strung out north, south, the rain comes right as head east. then some respite will be on saturday. some sunshine to start on saturday but we
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will see showers developing on saturday, initially across western areas, one or two transferring eastwards, would be quite as one though out 14—18d. through the later we can, everything is shuffling in from the atlantic, low pressure to the north of the uk. the outlook is uncertain because we are going to entrain some warm, tropical air, currently from two hurricanes earlier on in the atlantic, there. very wea k earlier on in the atlantic, there. very weak ones but that warm tropical air gets drawn northwards towards the uk and at the same time, we will find colder air by the end of the weekend arriving from nova scotia. that temperature contrast will power the jet stream and the outlook looks like we will have a stronger at jet stream and outlook looks like we will have a stronger atjet stream and pick up areas of low pressure, feeling towards the uk, and for a well be wet and windy. that's only one scenario because with the warmer tropical air force northwards to the uk, a contented buckle their
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strongerjet uk, a contented buckle their stronger jet stream and uk, a contented buckle their strongerjet stream and that in turn, may see high pressure. because of this interaction because the warm tropical air the outlook is uncertain. we will have some wild or warm air, but will be dry or wet? were not quite sure, not particularly helpful i know, but that's the best we can do right now. tonight at ten, labour unveils a major new policy on how school and hospital buildings should be financed. the shadow chancellor, john mcdonnell, tells the party conference that a labour government would end contracts under the private finance initiative. he said firms were making huge profits from the deals on hospitals and schools in england and wales and the bill for the taxpayer was heading towards £200 billion. i can tell you today it's what you have been calling for — we will bring existing pfi contracts back in house. we're bringing them back, we're bringing them back! we'll be looking at the commitment and asking how a labour government
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would pay for the change. also tonight: in germany, chancellor merkel starts a fourth term in office and says she'll win back the voters who turned to the hard right in the elections. in north lincolnshire, a 16—year—old girl is arrested
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