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hello, i'm ros atkins, this is outside source. donald trump and a critic falling out isn't always news — it happens all the time — but it does matter when it's it's a senior republican senator who's accusing the president of putting the us on the path to world war three? more on that in a moment. we'll be live in barcelona on the eve of possible declaration of catalan independence. this was the spanish government's message to the regional president earlier. tra nswe have told transwe have told him several times he was walking towards an abyss. i think he is already hanging from the a byss. think he is already hanging from the abyss. the nobel prize for economics has gone to the american richard failer. venezuela is becoming more and more isolated. another major airline has suspended flights into caracas. and as ever we will have the biggest
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global stories. let's stop to consider this — the american president is accused by the chairman of the senate foreign relations committee of such recklessness that it ‘threatens world war three'. that's what bob corker told the new york times. remember, he's a republican — as is the president. that followed up this tweet in which the senator said: "ltis a shame the white house has become an adult day care center. someone obviously missed their shift this morning." and that was a response to a barrage from donald trump in which he told us: "senator bob corker begged me to endorse him for re—election in tennessee. i said "n0" and he dropped out (said he could not win without..." also:
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"he's responsible for the horrendous iran deal!" and these guys are supposed to be on the same political side. anthony zurcher is live with us. what is remarkable is notjust the difference of opinion, but the tone adopted by senator corker. exactly. donald trump called him a coward, saying he didn't have the guts to run for election and bob corker turned around and in an interview he called donald trump a liar, said he doesn't tell the truth on twitter and everyone knows it. i think corker will explain himself as saying a lot of people, republicans in congress are thinking, but are afraid to say it, because they want donald trump's support or they're afraid of donald trump's supporters
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when a lot of senator and the congressmen are up for when a lot of senator and the congressmen are up for re—election. so it is a difference in tone. we have heard donald trump criticise republicans, but that was very sharp. in terms of political practicalities, what difference does it make to mr trump mr mr corker likes him? it depends on if bob corkeris likes him? it depends on if bob corker is the first of many to criticise donald trump. he is one vote in the senate, although the senate is narrowly divided. for any piece of legislation, the republicans can only afford to lose two republicans. so if bob corker ta kes two republicans. so if bob corker takes issue with tack reform or infrastructure spending or health ca re infrastructure spending or health care or any infrastructure spending or health care orany of infrastructure spending or health care or any of the other issues that only takes two other republicans to bolt and that legislation is sunk.
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now those of you watching my remember when president trump announced he was going to stop measures which president obama had introduced that allowed people who we re introduced that allowed people who were brought to america illegally as children to stay for work or study permits. these people are called the dreamers. there have been calls for compromise. if there is a compromise it is going to be tagged on new measures on illegal immigration. here what is the white house submitted a list of principles, the first word is "border wall". so these compromises will come from promises from the democrats. some democrats say the administration can't be serce youz if —— serious if they begin with this. the democrats may see it that way, but everything
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donald trump is asking for fits in with his platform. it shouldn't be a huge surprise. what is surprising is if you remember back to last month, donald trump met with the democratic leaders in congress and word came out of the meeting that they had an agreement to reinstate dhakar in the legislation and not tie it to wall funding orany of legislation and not tie it to wall funding or any of the hard line immigration positions that trump campaigned on. so i think a lot of democrats feel like donald trumps was not standing up to his negotiating position, the concessions he made, or that different people in the administration now are asserting themselves so they're back to square one and some of those things like the border wall funding, they‘ re non—starters for democrats.“ the border wall funding, they‘ re non-starters for democrats. if they stay on square one what happens to
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the funding for the wall and for the measures for the children who came to the united states illegally. the wall is wrapped up with the other spending. that will run aground in the senate and there could be a government shut down, a big confrontation. the other provisions, donald trump announced he was ending the executive authority that obama had instituted. that starts taking into effect in march. there was a six—month delay for congress to work something out before the people covered by that start becoming undocumented again and have go back into the shadows where they could be deported. they can't get car loans or lawful employment. that starts happening in march and rolls on there as more and more people start
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having their status expiring, all six million of them. to see to see the president disagreeing with democrats doesn't surprise us, but to see him falling out with his own party, suggests people like steve bannon still have a lot of power over the direction. donald trump has had feuds past. he has picked on mich mcconnell and his republican rivals who ran against him for the presidency. he has criticised various people. but bob corker has been pushing back. bannon is operating as a free agent and he is talk about the same senators and while people have been trying to guide donald trump back to a more
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mainstream position, he still has a lot of anti—establishment rebel. he doesn't see himself as part of republican party, he is happy to aim his fire at whoever draws his ire at that particular time. i am sure he will carry on doing it and we will keep on talking about it. thank you. thank you. now those whose lives could be changed by what permits may or may not be available to people who came into the us as children illegally, well their wait goes on. the bbc has been speaking to some of them. well their wait goes on. the bbc has been speaking to some of themm brea ks been speaking to some of themm breaks my heart and it breaks me mentally. i remember being little, knowing that, not knowing what was going to happen. ijust
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that, not knowing what was going to happen. i just knew that, not knowing what was going to happen. ijust knew we were going to see the my dad in the united states. i know how it was and for me being here working in what i see, having a vehicle to get from one place to another, being able to have my kids in school, my daughter in high school, it is a dream compared to what i rememberas school, it is a dream compared to what i remember as a school, it is a dream compared to what i rememberas a kid school, it is a dream compared to what i remember as a kid growing up in mexico. i feelthe political and the government and especially trump, you don't know what they're going to do, it is unpredictable. so anything can happen. in this year, the united states has been a roller costar at least for me. it has been really unstable. the united states now is in the face of... isolation i would say. we have
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different groups fighting for different groups fighting for different causes. but the biggest one is imfwrags. —— immigration. that is the biggest concern. we came here to do the right thing, to work and have education and a job. edespite all the things that have been going on i still consider the united states and the area to be my home. snipe i see this as my country, i spent more time here than anywhere else. let us dream. we have dreams, just like our parents had dreams for us. now we want to give back to this country that has given us so much. we shall have to see if they can find a compromise on that issue. tomorrow, catalonia could declare independence from spain. not that the spanish government would recognise the move. and there's practical pressure too.
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the french ministerfor european affairs says: "the first consequence would be its exit from the european union." also, several major spanish businesses have said they're already considering moving their headquarters out of catalonia. so far neither side has blinked — first here's catalonia's regional president. translation: we opened the door for mediation and we have welcomed every mediation and we have welcomed every mediation opportunity we have received. days have passed and if the spanish state does not respond, we will do what we have to do. next this is the response of the spanish deputy prime minister. translation: we have told him several times he was walking towards an abyss. i think he is already hanging from the abyss. he is sinking the catalonia brand, the barcelona brand, he is
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causing lots of concern to many people. tim wilcox is in barcelona. here he is on what may come along on tuesday. i think it is touch and go. there is huge political uncertainty and division here. i only arrived last night, i thought they may come up last night, i thought they may come up with a form of words which would avoid a declaration of independence. but bear this is in mind, both he and the mariano rajoy are politically vulnerable. the catalan president relies on hard left communist supporters. now they're pushing for a declaration of independence. mariano rajoy, the prime minister, has always said the referendum eight days ago was illegal. it is outside the spanish constitution of i978f they declare
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independence, then madrid would take back control of catalonia and impose rule from the centre of madrid. you had that huge demonstration yesterday in barcelona, hundreds of thousands taking to the streets, the majority saying we don't want independence, we don't want to be seceded from spain. we want to stay pa rt seceded from spain. we want to stay part of spain. now, it is up to the form of words that the president uses tomorrow, 6 o'clock tomorrow local time, in the parliament building, but on the face of it, i think mariano rajoy is not going to actually agree to compromise. they're saying, take a running jump, we don't want to speak to any third party, you're outside the law. we don't want to speak to any third party, you're outside the lawlj we don't want to speak to any third party, you're outside the law. i was going to ask about a third party, is anyone positioning themselves as a bridge between the two? there is talk of switzerland or the church. but as far as on the face of it, the
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spanish government is concerned forget it. if they did impose home rule from, or rule from madrid, the next thing that would happen would be elections held here. now, if that we re be elections held here. now, if that were the case, and if the president doesn't please the coalition backers which has made him president, his political career could be finished. there is fear here and i don't want to overblow it, but there is concern about what would happen if he did declare independence and what spain would do, what madrid would do. we had horrific scenes eight days ago with police pulling people out polling stations, dragging elderly people by their hair, trying to confiscate the ballots and stop this referendum, the referendum went ahead. 90% who took part voted for independence, but on a 43% turn
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over. so there is anxiety. we are watching a very crucial moment in recent modern spanish history. a lot of people say this is the biggest constitutional crisis since the attempted coup in 1981 and when that happened, the then king actually said, look, democracy prevailed and he prevented and the nation joined the king, this time the king has said the catala ns the king, this time the king has said the catalans are breaking the rule of law. didn't mention the abuse by the police. and he said catalonia has to go along with the law, the constitution of spain. it isa law, the constitution of spain. it is a very fragile time. thanks to tim and whatever happens on tuesday, tim and whatever happens on tuesday, tim will be guiding us through it. inafew tim will be guiding us through it. in a few minutes we will talk about this, the electric honey comb,
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pictured by a 17—year—old in pakistan. it is about how ions interact with each other. in the 1960s, they called him mr rochdale. he became mayor of the town from labour but defected to the liberals. do you want a man to represent you or a party robot? in the ‘60s, it was never revealed he had been accused of sexually abusing deprived boys. he wasn't charged. but years later, the press got wind, started asking questions. the decision to embark upon this investigation was in part in response to the public concern that some politicians, including cyril smith, were involved in child sexual abuse,
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and able to abuse with impunity because they were protected by the establishment. this inquiry is attempting to learn the lessons of the past so children can be better protected in the future. this is outside source live from the bbc newsroom. our lead story is a senior republican senator has said donald trump has put the us on the path to world war three. there was never any chance of the president allowing this to pass. he's said his refusal to back bob corker led to him deciding to not seek re—election. the international red cross is going to drastically reduce its presence in afghanistan. this is a response to the killing of seven of its staff earlier this year. india's supreme court is banning
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fireworks. the city is the worst in the world for air pollution. plenty of you have watched this video of a man holding on to a bus. the driver had refused. that was when the man held on to the bonnet and kept hitting it. he did get down and he was arrested for his troubles. now back to spain. 0' over the weekend more businesses said they're taking steps to move their head quarters out of cat loan owe, because —— catalonia. one of country's biggest banks is looking at this. the region's largest savings bank has a
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worry about euro funds. but one a nalyst worry about euro funds. but one analyst said that particular scenario is a way off. it is arley days. and i think the moves that we have seen from the banks possibly from companies, these are all iconic and symbolic moves. they haven't moved any operation, they're just moving the office in case they need to be in the eu. but this is in the early days and it requires independence from what we have heard, spain is not going to agree on independence. so all of this is very premature. the real issue is what happens to spain as a country itself and from the economic side, i think the only real risk i see is what you said that is that the downgrading from the ratings agencies. that is a real risk. political uncertainty is the most important input. so if tomorrow we have a declaration of independence,
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that seems unlikely, but we could political uncertainty in spain and that will drive the cost of lending higher up. now the nobel prize for economics has been awarded to the america richard failer. who integrates economics and psychology. microeconomics works on the assumption that people and firms are rational in maximising whatever its, profits or happiness. but that is the key point, the assumption, the people who have brought the psychological approach to economics have look at how people and firms depart from rational behaviour. that is the key point in his work. he has been looking at ways in which people do things that maybe motivated by
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concerns about fairness, by following rules, nudging people, doing things that make it easier for them to do things in their best interest, like saving for their retirement, setting up default options in pensions so you automatically are in a system and have the option of opting out, but you have to take that decision. and the result he would argue is that the result he would argue is that the result he would argue is that the result is better for people in the result is better for people in the long—term and more in their own interest. you heard andrew talk about people being nudged into doing things. he is the professor explaining this in 2012.|j things. he is the professor explaining this in 2012. i think the basic idea of the so—called nudge unit is to take just all we know about behavioural science, how people think, how they behave, and make use of that to try to figure
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out how to implement government policies as effectively as possible. now a report claiming that google has discovered russian operatives spent thousands on adverts in america. our correspondent is live in new york. michelle, is the information that google took money specifically for ads on the election. google has been looking into what has become a hot issue in the united states and that is how much was social media used in the us election by russian operatives to sow chaos. google has said there is
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evidence that perhaps entities backed by russia use or bought up ads around youtube and google searches through its double click ad business to try and sort of promote in some cases political ads, in other cases nothing quite so direct. the key thing to note here is that google is the biggest player when it comes to digital advertising, the thing that different yaptiates —— differentiates it from facebook is facebook let's people be more narrow. google doesn't offer as much specifications. but they too have discovered russian agents trying to buy up ads. thank you. now a
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phenomenon that physicist call the electric honey comb. it happens when a layer of oil is placed in an electric field between a pointy electrode and a flat one. the instability caused applies pressure to the surface of oil and we have this effect. we have known about it for a long time, but the movement of ions has never been photographed until now. a 17—year—old in pakistan. he has been speaking to the bbc. we have a needle and a plate electrode and we have a layer of oil and plate electrode and we have a layer of oiland a plate electrode and we have a layer of oil and a voltage creates ions, but since oil is not a conductor, the ions do not get the electrons
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back that easy. so pressure building upton layer of the oil and soon a point reaches where the oil moves, because of pressure and so what happens is the oil does not like that it should be applied so much pressure. so everything in nature wa nts a pressure. so everything in nature wants a state of stability. so what it does is creates this hex gone, thatis it does is creates this hex gone, that is the most stable structure in the university. what a remarkable thing and a remarkable young man. our two thing and a remarkable young man. ourtwo main thing and a remarkable young man. our two main stories are donald trump has been arguing with a senior republican senator who is warning that the american president could be leading us into world war three and catalonia has a big day tomorrow as it decides whether to declare independence. some of the world weather stories.
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of course hurricane nate has been taking centre stage. there is not much left of nate now. it is tied in with an area of low pressure bringing wet weather to the eastern side of united states. to the wet we have cloud working across utah and colorado, that has been bringing heavy snow to the mountains. 20 to 25 centimetres is in the core fast. and we have cooler air flooding south. on tuesday we have wet weather in parts of the mid wefs of the united states. some rain also in georgia, the carolinas and over the next few days we will see the temperatures dropping away for some across the east. for new york temperatures down to 17 celsius by the time we get to thursday. in the pacific north—west it stays u nsettled pacific north—west it stays unsettled with rain or showers on many days and temperatures around 12
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to 14 many days and temperatures around 12 to 1a degrees. in india, a monsoon depression has formed in the bay of bengal. this will bring the risk of flooding and also to bangladesh. how much? about one to two hundred millimetres. that could cause some flooding. to the east of this, we have got a system that has formed in the south china sea. it is this swirl of cloud, it probably will develop into a tropical storm before making land fall in northern areas of vietnam. this threatens flooding. making land faufl. and we will see up making land faufl. and we will see up to 100 millimetres of rain. the north picking up 300 millimetres of rain. a lot of showers affecting the philippines. but this cloud may also
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develop into a tropical system. for the north—east of europe it is an u nsettled the north—east of europe it is an unsettled picture with low pressure bringing rain to the west of russia. a cold wind across scandinavia. here in the uk on tuesday not a bad day. generally a day of sunshine, although some showers. particularly in western areas and later in the day the winds pick up and we will see rain moving into western areas of scotland. through tuesday into wednesday this rain will trickle south across northern ireland, bringing wet weather to northern england and wales as well. so our weather is set to turn more u nsettled. hello, i'm ros atkins, this is outside source. donald trump and a critic falling out isn't always news, it happens all the time. but it does matter when it's a senior republican senator who's accusing the president of putting the us on the path to world war iii.
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venezuela is becoming more and more isolated. another major airline has suspended flights into caracas. we'll be live in barcelona on the eve of possible declaration of catalan independence. this was the spanish government's message to the regional president earlier. translation: we have told him several times he was walking towards an abyss, i think he is now hanging from the abyss. at least 12 people have drowned and many more are missing after a boat carrying rohingya muslim refugees capsized
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