tv The Papers BBC News October 27, 2017 10:45pm-11:01pm BST
it. if you are going to have a referendum that is this important, if you're going to call a vote, it should be a proper referendum, not a revote in parliament, it should be a proper referendum with a binding turnout, you have got to have this many people that will agree with you before you can achieve it. dialogue, as well, which didn't happen. now to another story on the front page of the daily telegraph. this is in relation to a report in the sun newspaper about allegations of sexual harassment in westminster by researchers and other staff of theli suppose researchers and other staff of the” suppose this is relating to the harvey weinstein scandal, moving into other areas of life and the situation in parliament, if you are an mp and you have an office with staff, they are your employees and they are not parliament's employees. parliament has its own employees, and what this story is about,
parliament's and what this story is about, pa rliament‘s standards boss, and what this story is about, parliament's standards boss, the parliamentary authorities, asked that the same rights should be given to all the people who work in the houses of parliament, so mps personal office staff have the same implement rights as everyone else in the houses of parliament, and uses mps pushed back against that and they refused. —— and it says. that is not what any of us would expect ina is not what any of us would expect in a place where we work, and it means that if you have a problem with your boss come there are only three orfour with your boss come there are only three or four people in your boss and the boss has done it's you, —— and the boss has done it's you, —— and the boss has done it's you, —— and the boss has done it to you, thenit and the boss has done it to you, then it is hard to know who to go to, and that is the problem. there isa to, and that is the problem. there is a help line. number ten has said the right things, but it is impossible to imagine parliamentarians could resist the pressure to have this properly investigated and revealed if there are things to reveal, i think the current climate will have the truth
come out and those who say it shouldn't our daft. —— are. come out and those who say it shouldn't our daft. -- are. the truth came out about donald trump, he admitted it, and he is still the leader of the free world. now to the financial times. maybe a story that makes the world look a bit better. this is something we were warned about after brexit, humvees were going to flee the country. —— companies. we were told everything, and as they say, we haven't left yet, but as someone who is a brexiteer and who thinks that our future will be bright, i must be as sceptical about stories like this as i should be about stories when it says such and such a company is
going to leave, and the fact is, all these company 's posturing to seek these company 's posturing to seek the maximum advantage for their company, so if someone moves in their direction, they say, fantastic, more likely, but if they don't get the noises they want, they say, i had a nice trip to frankfurt and the weather was lovely. we have got to be sceptical on those kind of announcements, and the same way we have got to be sceptical about the press conferences we see happening after the negotiations because we might think we have lived with brexit for ever but we are still in the eddie stages. —— early. brexit for ever but we are still in the eddie stages. -- early. exactly, we have got to be sceptical about everything we heard about brexit, because there wasn't that much that was clear about what brexit involved. i don't believe that. if it was clear, the negotiation would be over? what was clear was the
decision, we would be able to govern ourselves, and negotiate with others on our own esteem and control our own borders, and elation ship with other countries is complex, but the way we weather turning the won —— and the relationship with other countries is complex, but the way we we re countries is complex, but the way we were determining our own future, that was clear. and now we have got a highly critical report which is the nhs was hit by the wannacry attack, because of cyber security failings. it goes into more detail? it says the same thing. it does a bit. the national audit office says one in three nhs trusts were hit by the cyber attack, because they updated things less than most. with attacks like this it is seeking the weakest victim, like the burglar who goes along the street, the dummy
camera over your house might not protect you from a determined burglar but they might move onto the next house. the point is not that the nhs security systems were bad, the nhs security systems were bad, the point is that they were amongst the point is that they were amongst the worst and that is why the nhs suffered so badly. i'm determined susie can talk about the next story. these are allegations regarding nine sailors. what do you know from the front page question not they will be court—martialed, probably, standard operating procedure that if someone is accused of something, they are removed from their operating vessel. they might not all go to court martial, but the allegations are that nine sub mariner ‘s were found to have tested positive for cocaine, some or all of them while on duty,
and one man is said to have sex with and one man is said to have sex with a prostitute in a swimming pool. what a difficult place to have sex with anybody, really. the interesting thing is that not that this happened with the military, because there are thousands of people in the military, but the fact you had nine from one vessel, one vote. —— one vote. you had nine from one vessel, one vote. -- one vote. allegedly. it was carrying the nuclear deterrent, and they are also sub mariner ‘s, they are the most highly trained and most carefully selected people within the senior service and that is because they have to be able to be the kind of people who can operate under water for of people who can operate under waterfor six months at of people who can operate under water for six months at a time without soap and deodorant or raises and an extremely high pressure situations, part of their training is you have two escape from an underwater submersion situation, but you can't do that if you are someone
who panics and if you go on shore and takes a load of class a drugs. there may be more to it? yes. but whoever was in charge of the submarine training school, they might have a quick look at how on earth these people, if they are found guilty, got through the training process. we have had a statement from the ministry of defence which confirms nine british servicemen have been dismissed from duty from hms vigilant which carries the trident deterrent. the tests moved positive. the royal navy says they don't tolerate drug misuse by service personnel and those found to have fallen short of their high standards face being discharged from service. drug testing is fairly regular in the service, as well, so you have got to be pretty dumb to do that. most people pass these things with flying colours, so this is an
outlier, if true. the big talking point, even if there is nothing that much new, the jfk point, even if there is nothing that much new, thejfk files, and many papers have gone pretty big on this, look at the daily mirror. the front page. you have been looking through this, is there anything we are learning which is new? this is the most fascinating and gripping mystery that has been for most of my lifetime, and people will always talk about this, which is why the tabloids will be doing it, but business solution or answer to the conspiracy theories. this is a re—sto ke conspiracy theories. this is a re—stoke in and putting the fire underneath everything to keep people asking questions. it shows a few things, like most people who look at the evidence, it is difficult to believe one shooter conducted the
assassination ofjfk. weird things happen, the magic bullet theory might be true, that is what the bullet did in the path of all that damage to the president, but the papers reveal that the fbi revealed at the time —— that the fbi at the time did not think that lee harvey 's bald acted alone. —— lee harvey oswald. the point is, pretty understandably and predictably, at the time the fbi had people who are questioning what was determined to be the ultimate truth, and also they reveal that] edgar hoover be the ultimate truth, and also they reveal that j edgar hoover came be the ultimate truth, and also they reveal that] edgar hoover came down very heavy and very early in his decision to say, we just need to say that the harvey oswald was the killer and was the only shooter, and that might have been true in the end, but it was like one of those uneasy things, you have no right to
know that at the time. what you did have the time, total panic. complete panic within the fbi and cia, eve ryo ne panic within the fbi and cia, everyone else around the no one knowing what happened, and what you won't have in these files, any kind of memo that says, there seems to be some kind of wing nut responsible for this, who we noticed six months ago and we should have collared him and he has gone and done some stupid. we can think of terrorism incidents in the last 12 months ago where police have known about someone but he has got lucky and done something anyway, it is that scenario. that doesn't suit the conspiracy theorists. that is right. the one thing i thought, many of the files mentioned the conspiracy theories, as well, as lines of investigation. yes, it started very early. the dead express now. british
newspaper got tipped off before the kennedy assassination ash the daily express. someone got in touch with a cambridge newspaper reporter.‘ minutes before the shooting, a senior reporter at the cambridge news got a phone call saying there was going to be big news from the us embassy. and then it happened. i think the person at the cia who was doing the whole conspiracy dialled the wrong number. it depends on the person reporting, these things very quickly cement into truth, they fit a conspiracy theory and are consta ntly a conspiracy theory and are constantly challenged if they don't, and it is just constantly challenged if they don't, and it isjust as likely that someone got the time wrong. alex and suzy, thanks for joining someone got the time wrong. alex and suzy, thanks forjoining us. that's it for the papers tonight.
don't forget you can see the front pages of the papers online on the bbc news website. it's all there for you — seven days a week at bbc.co.uk/papers — and if you miss the programme any evening you can watch it later on bbc iplayer. thank you susie and alex. goodbye. good evening. some lovely sunshine, but we are paying for it at the moment. further north, and west, a strong westerly wind will bring some rain and drizzle over the hills of western scotland, so not as cold, but across central and southern england, in the countryside, temperatures will be lower than that. edgerley start. we will have some breezy air across the uk which will be milder —— a chilly start.
tomorrow the wind will be northerly for the second half of the week and, much more sunshine, but it will feel colder, as well. not as cold to begin saturday across scotland where we have rain and drizzle. maybe into cumbria. eastern scotland. andre gray start. as you head further south ash and a great start. more cloud coming into the south—west of bingo, west wales, as well as the north, and the west are being that, and the west of wales —— the south—west of england. we see more cloud heading in, but there will be areas that see some sunshine for a bit longer. the south—east of england and the ease coast of england and the ease coast of england and the north coast of scotla nd england and the north coast of scotland where temperature could reach 16, around 13—14 —— east coast but the clocks change on saturday night, the air coming all the way
from the arctic, eventually behind the weather front, which from the arctic, eventually behind the weatherfront, which is producing rain and drizzle overnight, and first thing on sunday morning. keeping temperatures up in the south but it will be a cold start further north. the rain getting pushed away very quickly, sunny spells developing away from the showers, running down the north sea coast, and it will feel very cold, because that is where the wind will be at its strongest. dublin to make double figures in scotland, not so bad further south —— struggling. with the winds dropping, the sky is clear and monday could be frosty, it will be a cold day, and there will bea will be a cold day, and there will be a lot of cloud, westerly winds and rain in the north—west. this is bbc news.
i'm chris rogers. the headlines at 11pm: the parliament of catalonia declares independence from spain, with people taking to the streets to celebrate. but spain's central government in madrid approves direct rule over the region, dissolving catalan's parliament and calling new elections. translation: as of today, i have dissolved the catalonian parliament and on the 21st of december there will be autonomic elections for that autonomic community. the cyber attack which crippled much of the nhs in may could have been prevented with basic security measures, according to a government investigation. files about the assassination ofjfk are released, but some are held back at the request of the cia and fbi.