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now on bbc news, it's time for a programme to mark the 20th anniversary of bbc hardtalk. welcome to my look back at the best of hardtalk, 2017. so many personalities, so much passion, and more than a little anger. there is a lot of pain in america, and donald trump addressed that pain. he said "i'm going to be a different type of republican. ihearyour pain." the only trouble was donald trump lied. i work inside the white house, and i will tell you,
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there is no crisis, we are creating the results expected of us and which got the president elected. he can build as many walls as he wants. but what he will never ever achieve, is mexico paying for the wall. we do not want to have islam claiming political power in our country. they are preaching against our values, our constitution, our people, our culture. the worst thing that could happen in terms of the north korea is to move into a kind of escalation and then all of a sudden we are sleep—walking into war. it is the entitlement of too many men, and it is epidemic. and when they're famous and they're powerful like harvey, then it gets talked about.
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there's only one place to start our look back at 2017, the united states. donald trump's election victory reflected a divided america, and his first year in office deepened those divisions. bernie sanders, welcome to hardtalk. great to be with you. do you in any way regret the lumps you kicked out of hillary clinton? because if you had not, she might be in the white house today. no, i do not accept that at all. what i accept is the fact that our campaign brought millions and millions of people into the political process. donald trump did not need me to understand that hillary clinton gave speeches before wall street, did not need me to understand hillary clinton's record. there is a lot of pain in america, and donald trump addressed that pain. he said "i will be a different
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type of republican. " "i hearyour pain." "i will take on the establishment, the political establishment, the economic establishment." the only problem is donald trump lied. senator lindsey graham, john mccain, your good friend, says "it is time for republicans on capitol hill to stand up to donald trump." "we are not his subordinates," john mccain says. so, are you now prepared to stand up to donald trump? absolutely. we came out strongly against the first travel ban because i thought it was basically a ban on a person's religion. sebastian gorka in washington, what is the atmosphere in the white house today? fabulous. i literally just left the oval office where we swore in general kelly as the president's new chief of staff. it was like a family gathering. great, great mood. lots of press interest. so, we are very excited about recent developments. are you? quite interesting.
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this is a heck of a family you are living with at the moment. anthony scaramucci, with his words to the new yorker, he has surely thrown a bomb into the building behind you, the white house. not at all. i know that's what our colleagues on the hill on the left and in the chattering classes of the leftist media would want people to believe. but it's not at all like that. we are excited, the agenda, "make america great again," is working. we've strengthened the team. we have people who can communicate to the base that elected him as president. sebastian gorka left the white house just a month later. one of the most extraordinary features of the first months of the trump presidency has been the deepening sense of a war between the white house and the so—called mainstream media. and top of the president's enemy list is the new york times,
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the grand old lady of american newspapers, which donald trump portrays as a purveyor of lies. this is a president, umm, who does not like the press. no president ever likes the press he gets. he likes it less. this is a man who made his name in the real estate industry by manipulating the tabloids. he becomes president, and i think he was expecting the same thing. fox news gave it to him. but we won't. you, i think it is fair to say, for a long time, as a paper, didn't appear to take trump that seriously. would you at least accept that? i guess the way i would flip it, it wasn't that we didn't take him seriously, we didn't take the donald trump phenomenon seriously. "out of touch" would be the phrase. "out of touch," i would accept that. there was anger in the country. anger at elites. we were seen as elites.
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i do not think we had ourfinger on the pulse of the anger. we wrote about the anger in the country, but we did not understand the scope of it and how much people wanted change. none of the usual diplomatic rules applied to the donald trump presidency, and some harsh words came from south of the border. excuse me, it starts with the wall. he can build as many walls as he wants. he can enclose that leading nation behind more walls because of fear and because of his crazy ideas, but what he will never ever achieve is mexico paying for the wall. that's a different thing. that has to do with sovereignty, that has to do with dignity, that has to do with pride. we are not paying for that stupid wall that he wants to build. build it if you want with us taxpayers' money. latin america had its own big
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headache this year. venezuela plunged into an economic crisis which saw shops emptied of food and hospitals run out of medicine. the socialist government of president nicolas maduro faced a wave of protest. for the last few years, you have been a diplomat at the united nations representing venezuela and the venezuelan government, and a month ago you decided tojump ship. why? it is impossible to defend the undefendable. you can clearly see the violation of human rights and the crimes against humanity that have been committed in the past four months. it is impossible to defend his quote unquote "socialist utopia." it is actually a dystopia. ijournied to venezuela undercover. journalists were barred as the opposition took to the streets.
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he has never been a radical... antoinetta lopez. the mother of the country's most famous political prisoner took me to hear the voice of resistance. look at that. well, ajeep has come out of the prison. maybe they'll take your camera... maybe they want to talk to us. this was the moment our filming in venezuela came to an abrupt end. as the military police approached us from the prison, we attempted to leave. we managed to conceal the camera in our car but our cover was blown. european politics in 2017 featured concern about immigration, the rise of anti—establishment populist politics, and efforts by mainstream politicians to reinvigorate the centre ground. and, of course, there was brexit too.
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and the magazine i worked for... one of the most memorable interviews of my year came from nicholas frank whose father was hitler's lawyer and the nazis' top official in poland. you have to know the history, the history of your people. it hurts to admit we killed millions of innocent people in a system which was really a tough system. and to be against the system then was to have a very brave character to do it. but this hurt. you can endure, like i do it, and i still love germany, i love being world champion in football, for instance. really, i'm a nationalist, yes? as you can see, especially with merkel and the refugees, everything changed because the silent majority, as if it werejews again.
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the swamp is coming. you feel that? you really feel so insecure about your germany today? yes. don't trust us. we do not want to have islam claiming political power in our country. we are very much in favour of religious freedom, i said that already. and a mosque is where muslim people are practising their beliefs. so, that's ok. what we know from our secret services is we basically, in every mosque we have problems, because they are preaching very often in a language which we do not understand, which is arabic. they are preaching against our values, our constitution, our people, our culture. let me explain, we have radical and political islam in europe, jihadists. secondly, we have a trap by putin, an autocrat in the kremlin who tries to divide europe,
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already, years from now. and now we have an american president who not is seeing the european unity as a pillarforforeign policy. he is saying openly he hopes for the disintegration of the european union. i think we are, for the moment, in an existential moment for the eu. there is a clear idea for brexit. theresa may said that in her speech and her florence speech. there are bits i am not enthusiastic about, but it is a clear manifesto for what she is looking for. she has been generous in the offers she has made to the european union. the government she leads is stronger than many, not all, continental governments. you can take a decision one day and change your mind another day. it happens. it is ok to open doors and say
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maybe, if you are interested, one day, we would be happy to have you back. throughout 2017, europe cast uneasy glances to the east, and vladimir putin continued to flex russia's muscle in the international arena while maintaining an iron grip at home. vladimir putin just tries to distract russian people from real problems like inequality and poverty. we have 23 million of russian citizens living below the line of poverty, and he is distracting them from this problem with his imperial delusions about making russia great again and all this stuff. you know, unfortunately, we have a very weak opposition in our country. i wonder why that is. could it be because they are not allowed access to state television, for example?
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it is not about state television. you have modern media. and television viewership is diminishing day by day. in russia today, if you switch on the tv and you want to find opposition voices, it is almost impossible. the american president is winning elections using twitter! in order to be a successful opposition, you have to be sustainable, you have to have a programe of development of the country. you also have to be allowed a semblance of freedom. you have to be a person whos is not at risk of being assassinated as boris nemtsov wasjust 100 metres from the kremlin. you have to be a guy unlike alexi navalny whose brother is locked up on trumped up charges, and he himself is facing more trumped up charges. you need a space, a freedom, to make a movement. in russia today, you know as well as i do that's impossible. why don't you think they are not fair charges? because the european court of human rights has said
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they are political and has declared them illegitimate. we don't agree with that. you don't agree with the european court of human rights? i would rather trust our own court. welcome to the hardtalk studios. hello, stephen. nice to meet you. great to see you. now we're going to put you in that seat over there... 0ne russian intent on challenging putin and the election next march came into the hardtalk studio, boasting youth, not experience. are you suggesting to me that mr navalny is supporting your campaign? i hope he will be wise enough if i will be registered to support me because, unfortunately, and this situation is very unfair, he won't be registered by unlawful lawsuits that are made against him, so if we are fighting for the same goal, and i think we are fighting for the same goal with alexei navalny, i offered him this option, to be the person who just opens the door.
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i am the one who will be registered and i hope together with him we can fight for the best future of russia. in africa, 2017 will be remembered as the year robert mugabe's rule finally came to an end in zimbabwe, tempting perhaps to see it as a symbol of a wider determination to push for more political accountability. former president 0lusegun 0bassanjo, welcome to hardtalk. being mindful of what the national assembly said in november of last year... what did they say? ..when you lectured them about corruption... what did they say? do you want me to read it to you? read what they say. "lest we forget", they said, "the person who introduced corruption to this national assembly is chief 0lusegun 0bassanjo. he burst the national assembly with corrupt practices from day one of his administration". stephen, what they say is trite or they are talking rubbish. listen to me. when i took over, the first thing
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that the national assembly sent to me and they sent who was my national security adviser is that whenever i'm sending a bill to them i shall send it with money and i said no. if i send a bill to them and they don't pass it, i will still run the affairs of nigeria. the national assembly says, have you forgotten the sacks of money that were displayed on the floor of the house of representatives... where did it come from? ..being used for bribes. where did it come from? you tell me! you were in charge. who brought it on the table? he says you and i'm quoting him directly. "the grandfather of corruption in nigeria". i never gave anybody a dime. never. kgalema motlanthe, welcome to hardtalk. thank you. you made a decision to call for zuma to go. yes. notjust as party chief, but as president of the country. yes, because my belief was that
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if you are in a leadership position you have the responsibility of guiding others. and whenever, you know, they get off the rails you have the ability to pull them back and that same conscience should help you as well. you don't think zuma has a conscience? well, today it has failed him. it's failed? i'd say the entire leadership is crooked, with a few exceptions. a few exceptions. joice mujuru, how could you, just a few months ago, describe robert mugabe as a father figure when you seemed to believe that people close to him are responsible for the murder of your husband ? he appeared to be a father figure to me. that i should not run away from, because during this trouble these were people who were giving leadership to everybody
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who was in this trouble. and mind you, according to our custom, these are the respects we give to our seniors. it calls into question yourjudgement. about mugabe? about everything — everything we've discussed. it's hard to understand how your political career makes any sense at all if you have morals, ethics and principles. it's very hard to understand anything you have done. the issue is you have never been to zimbabwe. never seen what personally i have done for the country of zimbabwe. the issue is you have never come to zimbabwe to interview for yourself those people to say, how do you takejoice as a person? well, actually, i have been to zimbabwe, i have reported from zimbabwe... you have not... so i have a little bit of an idea of how the politics in zimbabwe works. you have been there but you have not asked about me. i have actually. no.
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yes, i have. the map of the middle east changed in 2017. the self—styled caliphate established by the jihadists of islamic state was erased in iraq and in much of syria too. so was this the end of the jihadist surge? i don't think we are going to see the end of isis at all. that will be with us for a long time, not only in iraq, but it's spreading already. already it's reached thailand and the philippines, eastwards, and definitely to europe westwards. but in iraq you're suggesting they'll change tactics? they won't hold territory so much as conduct an underground insurgency? holding territories is finished for them. but they will do insurgencies. they will perform insurgencies and embark on insurgencies and resort back to terrorist
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activities of explosions and killings and assassinations. that's why i say we need to end the war. thank you! 0k, bye. i was on the first commercial flight to land in benghazi, libya. is fighters had terrorised the city for a couple of years, before being vanquished by a new libyan military force, led by marshal khalifa haftar, a one—time gadafi loyalist with his own ambitions to rule the country. troubling evidence emerged of haftar‘s forces committing abuses, including summary executions. you will have read the latest un report suggesting that as haftar moved his forces back into benghazi, there were egregious abuses of human rights.
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that's something that worries the international community. and that worries us too. these reports came out and he voiced his concern and he said that he would address them by investigating these people who had been committing these acts, these outlaws acts. have you seen those videos and pictures, minister, of people being shot in the back of the head, bound, hand and feet, executed? unfortunately i have seen them. these acts should stop and i'm sure that the army staff will look into that seriously because of the wrongdoing that we have witnessed. aside from the conflicts and geopolitics, 2017 will be remembered for the power of women's voices, speaking out about misogyny, sexual abuse and gender inequality. some of my most memorable interviews from this year reflected deeply personal experience.
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it's the entitlement of too many men and it is epidemic and when they're famous and powerful like harvey then it gets talked about, and so it's really important that those women who have been brave enough to come out and say so... indeed, a sort of logjam has broken. but the point is there was silence when it's clear that people knew of these behaviours but did not talk in public about them for year upon year. why? who are the women he preyed on and preys on? young women, and most of them were in their 20s when it happened. vulnerable. afraid that if they said anything or did anything it would ruin their career. why you felt that you couldn't speak out a year ago when you heard a lot of this stuff? i think it's ‘cause if i had i would have had to out someone who wasn't prepared to speak out. she subsequently has. if it had happened to me, i would now. it has happened to me, but long,
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long ago, and it's very hard to come forward when you've been a victim of sexual abuse, because you get dragged over the coals, you have to prove. you have to justify. you know, we have to start believing these women and standing up and standing for them and protecting them. ian mckellen, i wonder if you feel, looking back now, whether you have been a better, fuller actor younger, if you had been more public about your identity? i think probably. i mean, it's certainly true of me and practically every person i know who has declared their sexuality that life becomes better in every possible way once you are honest. that clearly affects your work and my work, which is dealing with honesty and truth about human nature. it was likely to be more convincing. and that's what friends
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and colleagues say, that overnight my acting took on a depth which it hadn't had before, because i'm no longer disguising, i'm now revealing. personal, political, powerful. we celebrated 20 years of hardtalk this year. here's looking forward to more memorable encounters in 2018. until then, have a very happy new year. hello, it has been a lovely day for most, a quiet story with lots of sunshine and a few wintry showers in northern scotland and parts of
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north—west england but foremost we had skies like this but very cold with temperatures falling away again this evening and overnight with some freezing fog forming. they will rise in the south—west and northern ireland as this system moves in with strengthening winds and outbreaks of rain which can turn to snow in northern ireland and parts of wales, northern england and southern scotland. temperatures around 5 degrees in plymouth by the end of the night but very cold further north and east as the rain pushes into the cold depth and smoke will become widespread and heavy in parts of northern england and southern scotla nd of northern england and southern scotland —— snow will become widespread. there is an amber warning from the met office for a small area of the south pennines around the peak district where we could see up to 15 centimetres. settling snow even in lower levels of southern scotland and northern england and parts of the midlands but in the south mostly rain with some sleet. because it is falling on frozen surfaces, ice will be a risk.
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watch out for it on friday morning. it will clear quite quickly by lunchtime with the sky is brightening with further showers in scott fernandez far north of england but in the south it will be windy with gales in places but bright with sunshine and a bit milder. still quite chilly further north. the low— pressure quite chilly further north. the low—pressure clears and takes the strong winds with it but the system brings some wet and windy weather particularly to parts of central and southern england and wales but it should clear away and on saturday, sunshine and showers. another windy day with gales in southern areas, but very mild. further north, also a little less cold but still some wind in the higher ground. similar on new year's eve, wintry showers in the north abbott further south a better chance of staying dry with some sunshine and very mild. and for
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midnight on new year, central and eastern areas have a better chance of staying dry with clear spells but a chilly wind which will push showers intimate —— western areas. this is bbc news. i'm reeta chakrabarti. the headlines at 4.00pm: ice and subzero temperatures cause treacherous driving conditions, as the coldest night of the year is predicted this evening, with further snow to follow. hundreds spend the night at stansted airport after flights were cancelled or delayed. used as "bargaining chips" — the un's special envoy to syria speaks out about the children who desperately need to leave a rebel—held area of damascus. at least a0 people are dead after a suicide bomb attack in the afghanistan capital, kabul. the islamic state group says it was behind the attack. also: a record breaking day for alastair cook in melbourne — he makes a double century and his highest ever score
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