tv Victoria Derbyshire BBC News March 27, 2019 10:00am-11:01am GMT
hello. it's wednesday, it's 10 o'clock, i'm victoria derbyshire. mp5 get to show today if they can break the brexit deadlock by taking control of house of commons business and voting on alternative brexit ideas. meanwhile, pressure is growing on the pm to name the day when she will step down from herjob. it's an important opportunity for the house to show its voice and to say what it will accept, rather than co nsta ntly say what it will accept, rather than constantly saying what it won't accept. it will be an important moment. we'll talk to one conservative mp who has changed his mind on mrs may's deal and will vote it for a third time, and one who certainly doesn't sound as against it as he has in the past. meanwhile, brexit means these people — from reading, glasgow and norwich, are stockpiling everything from medical equipment
to tinned food to loo roll. brexit stockpile of food in case everything goes wrong. so looking at it now, i do think that maybe i should have got a little bit more. doesn't seem like enough. and if you're stockpiling, tell us what and why. could we be seeing the end to speeding? new rules forcing manufacturers to fit speed limiters are provisionally agreed by the eu — it could save thousands of lives each year, but the aa says speed is sometimes helpful. and on one housing estate in london, why some kids who live there can play in the big playground but others have to use the smaller one. residents say it's segregation. the government says this morning that it's investigating.
hello. welcome to the programme. we're live until 11 this morning. so is it the end of speeding? what do you think of the fact that it will be compulsory for all new cars sold in europe by 2022? brake say it's a landmark day — the aa says "a little speed helps with overtaking or joining motorways". first, annita mcveigh has the news. stockpiling is going on in households across the country. if you have done a bit of stockpiling, tell us what you're collecting and why. here is the news. good morning. mps will vote on a series of alternatives to theresa may's withdrawal deal today to try to end the brexit deadlock. they will mark their preferences on a ballot paper to gauge support for the different options. the so—called indicative votes are intended to give the government an idea of the different types of brexit a majority of mps might support if theresa may can't get her own deal through the commons.
the prime minister will meet conservative backbenchers in an effort to win their support for her deal as she faces growing pressure to name a date to resign. the conservative mp and leading brexiteer jacob rees—mogg has indicated he's now willing to support mrs may's deal if it gets the backing of the democratic unionists. as long as no deal was the default option, i was in favour of that default option. but the government has backed away from that in spite of all the prime minister plasma commitments that we would leave on the 29th. and parliament has made it clear they will not support that. so as that is no longer there, it is a hierarchy of choices. leaving without a deal would be my top choice, then you come to mrs may's deal, and then you come to not leaving at all, and mrs may's deal is better than not leaving at all. counterterrorism officials say far—right extremists in britain are accessing material published online by the islamic state group.
neo—nazis and similar groups have been studying methods of attack shared by jihadists with their followers on the internet. far right extremism has been described as the fastest—growing domestic threat to uk security. austria s chancellor sebastian kurz has confirmed there is a link between the new zealand mosque attacks suspect and the far right identitarian group in austria. 50 people died and dozens more were wounded in the shootings at two mosques in christchurch earlier this month. mr kurz said the government was considering whether to break up the group. new rules to force manufacturers to fit speed limiters and other safety devices to all new vehicles in europe from 2022 have been provisionally agreed by the eu. the measure is designed to save thousands of lives across the continent each year. the department for transport said the system would also apply in the uk, despite brexit. part of new york state in the us has declared a state of emergency following a serious outbreak of measles.
more than 150 cases have been confirmed in rockland county. as part of efforts to contain the virus, any children who haven't been vaccinated will be banned from entering public spaces for a month. a british man has been arrested in australia after allegedly trying to flee the country on a jet—ski. police say the 57—year—old is wanted on drug charges and was trying to make the 90—mile trip to papua new guinea. the man was thought to have been armed with a crossbow and carrying enough fuel and supplies to make the journey. tributes have been paid to the singer ranking roger, the vocalist with the two—tone band the beat, who has died aged 56. he'd been diagnosed with two brain tumours and lung cancer following a stroke last year. ranking roger — whose real name was roger charlery — helped the beat secure
a series of uk top 10 hits, including this one, mirror in the bathroom, and a cover of smokey robinson's tears of a clown. it's a really big day to day for mps, and a historic one. will they rise to the challenge of finding a way through the brexit stalemate — in a way the pm has consistently failed to do so far? although there are various arch conservative brexit—supporting mps — like jacob rees—mogg and borisjohnson who are now saying they might get behind mrs may's deal if it comes back a third time. we'll talk to a tory mp that hates mrs may's deal and has voted against twice who now says he's going to vote for it. there's also a meeting between mrs may and her mps at 5pm tonight — and there's speculation that she might tell them when she's
going to quit herjob — and that might bring more people on board to support for her deal. earlier, i spoke to andrew bridgen mp, a member of the economic research group. he has voted against mrs may's deal twice. have a listen to this. i voted against it twice because i don't think it's a very good deal. indeed, i don't even think it's a withdrawal agreement, it's actually a staying on agreement. when you look at the legal advice around the withdrawal agreement, it's clear that we could end up stuck in the backstop indefinitely. as emphatically against it as on previous occasions when we've had this conversation, is that fair?
i'm being spoken to by colleagues who have grave concerns that it's either the prime minister's lousy withdrawal agreement or potentially no brexit. i'm not convinced of that and at the end of the day, i don't think the withdrawal agreement will give us brexit. we will have handed over £39 billion of taxpayers' money for effectively nothing. but again, it sounds like you might vote for it, is that fair? i think it's very unlikely that i am going to vote for it. very unlikely is not definitely "no, i'm not". i think it's a trap that we will end up stuck in and i believe that ten years after the referendum, people will be saying, "why haven't we left the european union?" and the reason is that we will be stuck in the backstop. jacob rees—mogg has caved in. he is likely to vote for it. he has apologised for changing his mind today. and that's what every member of parliament's got to do. they have got to come to a decision themselves, a decision that ultimately,
they can justify to themselves and to their constituents when asked. i am struggling to vote for this, as much pressure as is put on me, because i believe it will be very detrimental to the uk in the long term. but he says all the other potential outcomes are worse than mrs may's deal and things have changed because no deal has now been effectively ruled out. well, i think we need to change mrs may, to be honest. that won't change the withdrawal agreement, will it? no, but we don't have to have a withdrawal agreement to leave. we could have a long extension, which meant we could then have a new prime minister. then we could have a new plan for leaving the european union. people will be upset about that because we haven't left, but if we sign the withdrawal agreement, i promise your viewers that we will not be leaving the european union. and when your viewers realise the small print and that we are trapped in the backstop indefinitely,
taking eu rules for the first time ever in our country's history, we will be under the rules of another entity. we may not go into the backstop, as you well know. some people say that the reason the uk is not leaving the eu on friday is because of the behaviour of people like yourself. well, the vast majority of mps have voted against the deal. i led leave for the east midlands. i am a brexiteer. i believe that in leaving the european union, that's the best future for our country and our people. but this withdrawal agreement will not facilitate that. you said you had been under pressure to vote for her deal if it comes back a third time. what sort of pressure? give us some examples. yes. there is an awful lot of talk that we will end up with no brexit at all. but the withdrawal agreement is no brexit. it's a fallacy. it's a delusion. it's a trap that our
country will be in. we will talk to various other politicians through this programme on this day of days for mps. now, because of brexit, some of you are stockpiling. plenty of you aren't, of course, but of those that are — it's mostly medicines, tinned food, dog food and loo roll. here are some of your messages when i asked on twitter if anyone was stockpiling... simon says yes, lots of prescription food for son who has ?a condition which is controlled by diet. severely affects development on many levels if untreated. a lot of products come in from eu and already some problems getting them. kate ironside says gluten free staples (made in eu) for coeliac child.
hobbitswife says, wish we could stockpile insulin. that s my main worry. hubbie is type i and needs it to survive. it has a short shelf life, so stockpiling (if we could) wouldn t help. mr baldi says, three months worth of food. nothing weird like spam or tinned veg (yet), just stuff we use every day so that any shortages won t affect us. toilet rolls may be the most important! frosty says loo rolls, all my prescription meds, vitamins, longlife milk, pasta, oats, won t lie, joe says, i'm on employment and support allowance and only get £125 a week, but have about £200 worth of tinned food and pasta/rice stocked up so far. about a months worth. caroline says, gin to get us through. judy murrayjoined
in to say simply no. let's talk to various people now including david biggins from norwich. david normally spends £100 on groceries each month. he is spending £400 every month now because he is anxious about food shortages. also with us, following a la dictum in 2017, paul clark from reading now needs several pieces of medical equipment to communicate. he is worried that they won't be available and he worries literally about losing his voice. and lyn williams is in glasgow. her husband derek has physical facilities which include dual incontinence. she worries that his equipment to an to be available and has been building up be available and has been building up their be available and has been building l be available and has been building up their supply for the past six months. also with us is our reality check correspondent chris morris, who we will talk to in a moment. paul, you were diagnosed with cancer
in 2015. you had a laryngectomy in 2017. tell our audience what equipment you need to communicate following the surgery. well, you can see what i have here. i have the daily filters and the base plate. i use an average one baseplate a day and two or three filters a day. normally, i have a stock of about one month's normally, i have a stock of about one months worth. but i am overall tone —— over ordering slightly so that in the case of a no—deal brexit, i will have enough to keep me going until things are resolved. why are you anxious about the possibility of running out of this equipment? if i won out, i can't talk, i can't work. it would make making a living very difficult. i am
pretty sure we are not going to run out, but i would rather be safe than sorry. yellow how many months' worth of supply have you got? three and a half months of supply at the moment. that is an additional two and a half months to what i would normally have. on twitter, some people were laughing at the fact that people we re laughing at the fact that people were stockpiling anything. what do you say to them? it's up to them. if there are no problems, i will not order so much going forward. but to those people who say, don't be daft, well, walk in my shoes? david, you live in norwich. you have been spending a lot more on what kind of stuff? mostly tinned food, baked beans, tomatoes, a lot of frozen
vegetables, anything where the sell by date doesn't matter too much, making sure we have food that will la st making sure we have food that will last us at least a month, probably a bit more. some essentials like toothpaste, where we would probably only buy one, we would pick up three just in case. it'sjust making sure that we have a bit extra that we would normally have. what are you worried about? well, if there is no deal, i think there is going to be a bit of trade disruption. i don't think it will be a disaster, but enough to cause a few problems. if you mix that with potential panic buying, i could see things disappearing off the shelf and i personally don't want to get caught up personally don't want to get caught up in that disruption. i would rather have got my cupboard sorted and if there are any issues, i don't have to worry about it. you may have heard mrs may saying in the commons this week, the only way there will bea no this week, the only way there will be a no deal is if the house of commons wants it, and they don't. they had voted against that. does that not reassure you? not really. i
know they say parliament has taken back control but i don't think anyone is in control. the european union themselves, if they make the decision that theyjust want rid of this problem in april, they might force us to a no deal. i don't think it's likely, but it's an option i wa nt it's likely, but it's an option i want to be prepared for. lynn, hello. you are in glasgow. your husband derek has physical disabilities. he uses a wheelchair because of a spinal injury and he has dual incontinence. what equipment does he need? we have a range of appliances and equipment. we have things related to stoma, and there is a whole range of equipment around that. my particular concern is around bladder incontinence. we have an internal catheter. we have a
range of equipment to support his skin integrity. so we have quite a big supply coming in on a regular basis. and have you ordered extra equipment? yeah. the best way to describe it is a bit like poor. we don't always need everything every month, but we have a standard supply. so i have been ordering what we would normally get and building up we would normally get and building up for the last few months. so like paul, i reckon i have got an extra three month supply. the main thing is the catheter which goes into my husband's stomach. sol is the catheter which goes into my husband's stomach. so i have got more of that because that is more important, and he is prone to serious infections. so each time that happens, we have to change the catheter, so we need a bit extra. paul said his supplies come from a company in sweden. where do yours
come from? we order it through the nhs, and a company delivers it. but the supplies come from switzerland, italy, ireland, lithuania and denmark. they come from all over europe. and like paulagain, for denmark. they come from all over europe. and like paul again, for me, you have got to be prepared as a carer. and i have spoken to other carers this morning as well. it is the additional worry this process has put on us. you have to be prepared all the time and think about medication and equipment, and then you get this brexit thing hanging over your head and the worry about whether things get held up at customs, do supplies run out? does the cost of these things increase? and the impact it has on the nhs. people are genuinely concerned about this, particularly bus the equipment comes from every part of europe. you
will have heard matt hancock come both of you, paul and lynn, you will have heard the health secretary matt hancock saying even in the event of no deal, the nhs will be fine, there is no need to worry. does that reassure you? not at all! forgive me, mr hancock, but you don't live my life or my husband's life. when you hear them talking about contingency planning, it is often about medication. so the likes of my husband's equipment, you don't hear that being mentioned and yet for all of us, these things are literally life—saving. it's not something you can do without. so until they start talking about this equipment, i don't feel reassured. let's not pretend this is not all a mess. so who do you trust? i agree that this
equipment is not medicines. i don't trust mr hancock or anyone as far as this goes. let's get through it and see what happens. in the meantime, ifiam see what happens. in the meantime, if i am stockpiling stuff, that is tough. clearly, you arejust being sensible. dawn on twitter says, i would like to stockpile insulin to keep my son alive. that would be great, but we can't. neither do we have guarantees of sustained supply after whatever brexit ends up as. but let's listen to the numpties filling their freezers with fish fingers and piling hi there bog roll, with an angry face emoji. john says, is the millennium bug all over again. how foolish will they feel when they end up with a pile of food which will take weeks or months to dispose of? lg says, i have ordered in several month supply of dog food
as long as my four—legged friend is catered for, i am happy. as long as my four—legged friend is catered for, iam happy. stephen says, iam not catered for, iam happy. stephen says, i am not stockpiling, this is scaremongering. it's not a war was that martin says, i am stockpiling medications which are made in the eu. jackie says, do these people not realise that they will cause shortages by stockpiling as it will encourage others to do the same? what do you say to that, david? well, i think that in terms of why i am stockpiling, i don't think i am stockpiling an unreasonable amount. asi stockpiling an unreasonable amount. as i say, it's about a month's worth of food. i don't think that is a bad idea, to have resources in your house, regardless of brexit. this hasjust put that house, regardless of brexit. this has just put that front and centre in my mind, to make sure i always have what they need. chris morris is our reality check correspond. these
are genuine concerns from sensible people up and down the country. how widespread do you think these concerns are? let's start with food and supermarkets. there is no overall evidence that people are stockpiling food in a meaningful way. tesco and co—op say they have seen no overall change in consumer behaviour. last week the financial times reported internal government estimates that perhaps 4% of people may be stockpiling food, which suggests that 96% are not. we looked at numbers from the office for national statistics and the overall quantity of food sold in the country in february actually fell from january. it was the largest fall for two years, so there is no sense that stuff is flying off the shelves everywhere. but we do know that supermarkets themselves are increasing their stocks. the executives of 12 of the supermarkets have said that. the problem is firstly that there was a limited amount of warehousing space, but mostly, the things that are most
likely to be affected if there were to be long delays at a port like dover are the things you can't really stockpile, things we rely on from europe like fresh fruits, salad leaves, things that have a very short shelf life and you can't stockpile. let's talk about medicines, because there is clearly a difference between medicines and medical equipment. yes, and we have heard from paul and lynn. there is a huge amount of concern about this, not just from huge amount of concern about this, notjust from patients and carers, but also from medical professionals who have been increasingly vocal about the problems. part of the reason for that is a huge amount of medicines and medical equipment crossing the channel every month in both directions. normally, pharmaceutical companies hold about three weeks supplies, and they have been asked by the department of health to increase that to six weeks. so most pharmaceutical companies, most drugs you want to have readily available, there should be six week supplies. we know that
morrisons, their chief executive said recently that the hive seen a moderate rise in the number of over—the—counter painkillers being sold, so perhaps there is some slight evidence that people are stocking up on those basics. again, the trouble is the stuff which is most difficult to stockpile is stuff you can't do much about, medical isotopes that are used in cancer treatment. absolutely vital, but they have extremely short shelf lives, not just days, they have extremely short shelf lives, notjust days, but ours. and nearly all of those come from europe. what is the government doing? we heard paul's assessment of matt hancock. they have said if we can't get them in on lorries, we are chartering planes to do that. but understandably, if you're talking about life threatening or life—changing situations, any degree of uncertainty is extremely unsettling. and as paul says, in his and lynn's situation, better safe than sorry seems sensible. victoria, cani than sorry seems sensible. victoria, can i come in there? it is really
helpful to have that balanced view about things. i have spoken to some people over the last couple of days about their concerns, and there are about their concerns, and there are a numberof about their concerns, and there are a number of issues chris picked up on about what you can't stockpile because of that immediacy. some people have told me about issues already with accessing medication. it is anecdotal, and these supply issues do happen. but for some families for example with children with complex needs, some medications are difficult to come by anyway. some are unlicensed, but very specific and there are examples of issues with supply already. again, that could just be coincidence, but it adds to our worry about the things that our families or loved ones rely on. chris is right, for many, these are life threatening things. without these things, people
will end things. without these things, people willend upa things. without these things, people will end up a seriously ill. it is not scaremongering to those who are tweeting and saying we are scaremongering. if you live in our shoes, you have to think ahead all the time. my query to mr hancock and others would be, think about the appliances. come back with a message that says that these are being stockpiled and provide reassurance. right now, we are not assured by this. thank you all. and i wish you all the best. keep your messages coming in about what you are stockpiling and why. could mrs may bring her deal back for a third time? mrs may still needs to convince 75 mps to get her deal over the line...that‘s assuming that everyone who voted for her deal last time around does so again.
0ne mp who will now back it, having voted against twice, is conservative michael fabricant. he's a member of that very eurosceptic group of backbench tory mps called the european research group. mr fabricant, how can you vote for something when you hate it? because it's the least worst option. the real problem we have is now that parliament has seized control of the agenda, and they are mainly a remainer parliament, don't forget, i would say 400 to 500 mps want us to either stay in the eu or be under such conditions that we might as well have stayed in the eu, i fear that this is the least worst option. four months ago, you wrote in the telegraph, i could not look myself in the mirror if i supported this deal. i did, yes.
in the mirror if i supported this deal. idid, yes. ithought in the mirror if i supported this deal. i did, yes. ithought there is a satellite delay. no, i thought you we re a satellite delay. no, i thought you were going to explain more. well, my principle is the same. i want us out of the european union but u nfortu nately, of the european union but unfortunately, you can hear this chap in the background. he is rather like a majority of members of parliament who did contract out the decision to the british people, didn't like the results they got and are now trying to keep us in, one way or another. so the problem we now have is to try and make sure we do get brexit one way or another, and try and make the best of it so that we leave. you are a eurosceptic lead —— your eurosceptic leader jacob rees—mogg has said sorry for changing his mind. would you like to do the same? well, i haven't changed the principle. but you are going to
vote for it. i have changed tactics. it's most unfortunate that i have had to my mind. it is the only way i think we can get out of the european union. so you're not going to apologise. for what? changing your mind, like jacob rees—mogg. apologise. for what? changing your mind, like jacob rees-mogg. no, because my general mind is that we must leave the european union and this is the way we have to do it. but it's not the best way. as i said, it's the least bad option and there is far worse. it would be an absolute betrayal of the 17.4 million people if we stay in the customs union, the single market. we might as well stay in the european union if we did that. let me read you a couple of messages from people who are really disappointed in what you are about to do, i voting for mrs may's deal if it comes back at the time. aaron on twitter because you inept cowards. i think i
the time. aaron on twitter because you inept cowards. i think! have been quite brave, actually, in making the decision i have made, and it's not one i take lightly. i am really going to be holding my nose doing it. and circumstances might change if we don't get any decision out of these votes today and on monday. but at the moment, it looks as if decisions are made that we have to stay in the eu today, or keepin have to stay in the eu today, or keep in the customs union, then i fear that i have no choice. another message, you are being scared by the number 10 blackmail tactics and remain antics, hiding behind arlene foster's skirt. what an absolute shower. number 10 will tell you, there's a lot of frustration but of all the people
i'm frightened of it's not. what i'm frightened of is breaking the decision made by 17.4 million people in 2016. we should have been out of the eu by now and we must maintain our promise. this is a trick, if you like, to achieve it. had deviated from for mrs may's deal a lot earlier, britain could be leaving on friday. i think that's hypothetical. i don't know about that. labour were voting against, i'm not sure that would have happened. thank you for talking to us. michael fabricant is going to vote for mrs may's deal should it return to the house of commons if and when. it's a historic day for parliament today because mps have taken control of commons business. they'll be voting tonight — in a series of votes called indicative votes — because they could indicate what sort of brexit mps might be able to agree on. the result won't be legally
binding — the pm can completely ignore the outcome. the aim is to try to clear up confusion about the way parliament wants things to proceed. the speaker, john bercow, will select the options that mps will vote on — these range from accepting mrs may's deal, leaving with no deal, copying the relationship another country such as norway or has with the eu, or having another referendum. these options will then be listed on one bit of paper. and on that piece of paper they can mark yes to as many of the options as they are prepared to support. they won't be asked to list them in any order of preference. the results — which will be made public this evening — will be looked at, and the least popular ones eliminated, ahead of a potentially a second round of voting on monday. it's not clear yet how that round would work but if you were to explain it
in european cup football terms, it's like the group stages are today and the knock—out stages next week. the labour mp stephen kinnock is in westminster. hello. how big is it for mps like yourself today? i think it's a historic moment. we are overturning the constitution, the standard rules of the game are that the government bring forward legislation and we vote on it. theresa may is the one who has refused our rejection so she keeps coming back with the same proposal. that breaks the traditional rules and protocol of the way we do things in parliament. we are having to take control of the process and it's a great opportunity for our democracy. is it legitimate? yes, absolutely. we have voted to
suspend standing order 14 of parliament which says the default position is the government controls the order paper but if we vote to suspend it it is in the rules of parliament. was highly unusual is for this to happen on the most important policy issue of the day. that is unprecedented but you've got to sometimes rewire the constitution when you have a completely incompetent and inept government that has botched the negotiations. we have to step up and act in the national interest. first thing this morning there were about 16 options that could go forward. you may not have that many by the time we get to this evening depending on what the speaker chooses. do you want to vote any way you want to vote or are you expecting instructions from jeremy corbyn on how to vote? i've been consistent for two and a half years,
i've been campaigning for what we now call common market 2.0, some people call it the norway option. it's respecting the referendum without wrecking the economy. we leave the political project of the eu but keep a very close trading relationship through the single market and the form of customs union. i think there are also other interesting and coherent proposals today. the question was, do you want your leader, the whips in your party, to be telling you and your collea g u es party, to be telling you and your colleagues which way to vote on certain ideas or should it be free? i think it's right the labour whip is applied where its labour party policy. our front bench amendment common market 2.0 puts flesh on the banes of that. i think we will be whipped for the second referendum because that was agreed that the labour party conference. the leader of the house of commons said this
morning that kind of norway option is actually about the future relationship between the uk and the eu, and you need the withdrawal agreement first before you get on to talking about whether it's norway or canada or whatever. yes. the fundamental problem with theresa may's deal is not the withdrawal agreement but the political declaration on the future relationship because it's a load of meaningless platitudes. 0ur relationship because it's a load of meaningless platitudes. our proposal says withdrawal agreement fine, rewrite the political declaration to give it real meaning so we know what we are buying with the £39 billion of taxpayers money. if by monday there is a clear outcome, let's say it's norway, you would want that attached to the withdrawal agreement and would expect the government to go back to brussels and say this is what we are doing now? absolutely. we have to have the government agreeing to the plan b that parliament gives it. theresa may's
plan a has failed. you have to come up plan a has failed. you have to come up with plan b but she seems to be incapable of doing that. in good faith, she has to implement it. if she's not prepared to do that she has to stand aside. thank you. those votes are due to take place around 7pm tonight. make sure you're watching the bbc news channel. a group of volunteers who help drunk people on nights out have been credited by police in the area for bringing down crime. the "soho angels" work in central london, and provide medical attention, phone chargers, and even flip flops. they're one of several so—called "drunk tanks" which received thousands of pounds of nhs funding over christmas ? to help keep people out of a&e. 0ur reporterjames waterhouse has exclusively spent a night with them. the great british night out.
if you end up in soho, it'll probably involve theatre, a posh bite, or whatever you like. but whether its central london or swansea, there's always the risk of having one or three too many. we're meeting the people that try to stop the vulnerable becoming victims. it's a nice opportunity for people to rely on somebody, even if they make poor decisions. 0k. that's perfect. if you're just gonna grab all those and start heading down. they're volunteers and have notjust helped the nhs, but been credited with lowering crime. we've definitely seen a reduction in kind of violence against the person which obviously, people get drunk they tend to fight. hi, everyone. thank you all for coming tonight. i know it's a bit wet and miserable outside but it's awesome
that you're all here, we definitely do appreciate it. do you two want to be paired up together again? yes. with high vis jackets instead of halos, these are the soho angels and this is their drink tank. with help from stjohn ambulance volunteers, nurses and paramedics, it was one of the first such schemes to get funding from nhs england. despina boyiazis is one of the angels. the police have let us know that there's a lady that's with a friend who's quite intoxicated, needs a bit of help to get home tonight. sojust going to go check up on her, see if she needs some help or would like to come back to the hub just to sober up a bit. so it'sjust gone midnight. still early days for these guys. what they're doing is called a soft approach, where they basically say hello to people, pull them out of the road if they need to, and just basically build relations. we're going to get you a bit more comfy. we've got a nice area where you can lay down, have a bit of a rest. nhs england say up to 15% of a&e admissions in the uk are because of people being very drunk. this shoots up to as much as 70% on friday and saturday nights.
that's a clear strain. and while some of those will genuinely need hospital treatment, doctors say plenty don't. so at the moment we're just taking her back to the hub just to be monitored, maybe get some fluids just to sober up and then her friends are gonna be able to take her home after, rather than having an ambulance take her up to hospital. whether it's a booze bus or a drink tank like this one, these schemes are a place to go if you don't need an ambulance but can't be left alone. half a mile away, police come to help the angels out with charlie and alana. you need help getting back to the hub, do you? they've lost their friend who's gone off in their taxi and charlie needs a little help moving. he kept getting lost. he went off in the opposite direction to us. soho's like so many roads and crossroads. yeah. so what motivates people
to give up their weekends to help drunk people? 0ne o'clock, two o'clock in the morning, you will see the people just walking around, falling over. they're vulnerable to being mugged, to being beaten up. my son used to come out and there used to be people, the street pastors were out to make sure they were safe. so i thought, they did it for my kid, i can do it for other people as well. i think you don't have to start out with a belief. but either way, anyone doing this would end this will end up getting a belief when they see the difference it actually makes. the man was helping us. yeah, he was on the phone to her and she was like, she kept getting lost. she's not here. she's not here, no. really? with no sign of friend or cab, the drink tank awaits. ijust remember being in a church, like blankets, water bottles. yeah, it was nice. however, they are soon joined by others who need more. it's now really busy. we've got our couple who've made it back together,
they've now been reunited with the friend who went off early in a taxi. we've got a woman in the corner there who is pretty much out cold, she came in slumped in a wheelchair. she's now wrapped up in a blanket. we've got a chap over there. who's vomited down his front, who in every sense is in a vulnerable place right now. and over there there's a woman being treated with what looks like quite a nasty head injury. so, it's gone from very quiet, to very busy. monica came in with a friend who was in a worse state than her. we started drinking. and he was, you know, acting quite boisterous but i honestly thought he was joking because that's just how his personality is. and he told me like, "oh, monica, i'm going to throw up." and that's not my forte. so i ran across the road and he threw up. the lovely people came.
if, if anything had happened it could have been quite, scary. because usually most people don't see it from start to end, the patient being quite unwell and then being able to walk out, it'sjust a huge difference. that will stick with anyone. the conversations you have with them will really stick with you as well. thank you! there were times on there when it felt like we were on a busy hospital ward, and that's the point, really. that is what is saving the nhs time and money. after a couple of hours, charlie and alana's night is finally over. so we thought we'd catch up with them a few days later. oh, no! we kind of look not well. yeah, i had about half a bottle of rum and then turned up late, then had a 2 litre bottle of lambrini. oh, god! it sounds's really bad now. yeah, when you say back. i mean it's like a good point, but they shouldn't have to be
funding this because if we're causing the problem... i know. there's a, there's an element of guilt. but, yeah. well, especially cos i know how much it sucks being sober around drunk people. like, i hate it! whether or not the health service will cough up more cash will depend on a report that's out later this year. it will look at just how effective these schemes are. thank you for your many messages on stockpiling. jackie says, my son has diabetes and would die without insulin. insulin comes from denmark but the means to get it into hidden come from the netherlands —— the means to get the insulin into him. this is a very frightening situation, we simply can't leave without a deal.
john says... we have taken a long term view and bought some sheep a year ago a few ews and rams, some for meat milk. another fever says, i am 70 and have been brought up to stockpile. i a lwa ys been brought up to stockpile. i always have enough to eat for a month in case it snows or i can't get out. another viewer says, i com pletely get out. another viewer says, i completely agree, they should be doing anything that makes them feel less anxious going forward. up until now, brexit has been a fiasco. this programme can reveal today that the government is to investigate why children from private flats at a housing complex in south london enjoy a bigger playground than those kids who live in neighbouring social housing. the communities secretary james brokenshire said it was "outrageous behaviour" and condemned it
in the "strongest terms". he went on to say, "we are investigating this matter and will be liaising with the developer and any other parties responsible to ensure children of all backgrounds can play together." residents are accusing developers of "segregating" the children. this is the aerial view of the development — with the larger playground for the homeowners' kids and the much smaller space for those in social housing and this is how it looks on the ground — you've got the main play area with a swing for homeowners — and then the other space with not much greenery or play equipment for the social housing kids — but when the development was given the go ahead by the council back in 2013 it promised equal access for everyone. we can speak now to daniella who lives in wren mews,
the social housing block of the complex and anna is daniella's13—year—old daughter, louise whitely lives in the private housing block of the complex and polly neate, the chief executive of shelter. welcome, all of you. daniela, you moved in three years ago. what we are told about where your children would be able to play?” are told about where your children would be able to play? i was told the big playground in the private area could not be used. as i have a disabled child and a small one, i said, ok, it's big enough to play with a special bike and they could enjoy with other children. then i was told, no, you can't use it because it's was told, no, you can't use it because its private. it's in a private area, so we haven't got... access. initially you were told no problem but when you moved in that's
when things changed ? problem but when you moved in that's when things changed? once we signed the contract. what is that like for you? it's sad, because it's not fair that in the summer, you see people playing around, or in spring. kids from the whole building are like, why are we different? why can't we go downstairs and play with our friends? you can see the other kids there? yes. louise, you live in the private part of the complex, how do you feel? i think it's terrible. four other mums and i have been campaigning for the last three years to allow access for the other children. it's not a their and us issue, it's a group of mothers who are friends, his children of friends and we want the best thing for our children. the best thing for our children. the best thing for our children and the thing that makes them happy is to play on their
doorstep with their friends. and great together. it's tragic that a wall has been put in to stop this. — grow wall has been put in to stop this. —— grow together. wall has been put in to stop this. -- grow together. what would happen if he went into the private bit? who would kick up a fuss? the caretaker. if we are out playing, we invite them down and we have amazing play sessions. but we have to be there. it's like us inviting them as our guests. but that's wrong. i want our children to be able to go out of our flat and all play together without having to ask permission. my children don't want to play there because their friends aren't there. there's far fewer children in the private development. six but there's about 20 in the other development. they'll want to be together. my children prefer to stay at clubs so they can all play together. what would happen if for the kids from
the housing went into the play area? we got a letter of complaint about noise from the management company. about noise? but the small area and the big area are next to each other so it would be the same noise with kids in both areas as kids in one area. because the children don't play in those areas, so they don't play in those areas, so they don't play together. but if all the kids from social housing went to the playground for private housing kids, what would be the outcome? complaints. from who? don't name people but he from? people in private housing? it's complicated because if we go, and we have to jump because if we go, and we have to jump the wall or ring someone to get inside, then we would get letters saying you are not allowed. is it in
a contract? 0bviously saying you are not allowed. is it in a contract? obviously it's not a criminal offence. the area for the private kids is actually far bigger. we've got water fountains and a splash pool, we've got another huge green area. and you've paid for that by the fact you've paid for your private house. no, because they pay service charge too. we all pay the service charge too. we all pay the service charge. it seems crazy. it's unbelievable when we are designing segregation into what is supposed to bea segregation into what is supposed to be a mixed development. the point of a mixed development is that social housing shouldn't be stigmatised, it shouldn't be something that is dramatically different and worse, certainly from the outside when you look at it, compared to private housing. this is almost breaking discrimination into a development in a structural way with no thought to the social housing tenants and the effect on them including children.
is it because of demand from people who want to buy their own home, they don't want to be next to a council house? it might be. i think that might be what the developers think. but we need to think about what kind of s pa ces but we need to think about what kind of spaces and communities we want to create with new developments. the theory behind mixed developments is that, and you heard the crate from the secretary of state, is that we don't want to create developments that stigmatise sections of the community. how do you react to the fa ct community. how do you react to the factjames community. how do you react to the fact james brokenshire told community. how do you react to the factjames brokenshire told us it's outrageous and they are going to investigate? but here i think that's really positive, and we've been campaigning fora really positive, and we've been campaigning for a long time... we've been campaigning against private tenancies that exclude anyone on benefits and we know the government isn't happy with that either. it's really positive the government is understanding that where we are
stigmatising a group of society, all we can possibly do is exacerbate the divisions within society. how do you react to the fact the government is going to investigate? it's amazing the power of the media because we've spent three years writing to people about this and been told it's just how it is. they've literally told us this morning. now people suddenly ca re this morning. now people suddenly care about our children! what i think is it's not only about the children, it's about people that live in the building as well. most of them have dip disabilities. they could go and relax on a bench reading a book. it's not all about making noise. children need to play and they need to learn that they are all the same. children don't look at people, they are paying for service charges... they want to play. when they see another child it's like
their brothers and sisters. and us mums are all the same. we want to work, let our children play, be happy. we are not saying, you are rich, we are poor. we want this to stop. children are children and adults are adults, we all want them to grow together without difference. thank you. we'll keep reporting back to our audience. it could soon be impossible to break the speed limit, that's after the eu provisionally agreed new rules for technology which would automatically slow cars down. the technology could become mandatory from 2022 and the uk has said it will most likely introduce the laws too, regardless of brexit. the eu says the plan could help avoid 140,000 serious injuries by 2038. 25,000 people are killed on european roads per year,
and the eu say the vast majority of these are accidents caused by human error. and in the uk, 1,700 are killed on the road. the road safety charity brake says speed is a contributing factor in about a quarter of all fatal crashes. let's speak now tojoshua harris, he's director of campaigns at brake, the road safety charity. also, from manningtree in essex, paul hutton, he's editor of smart highways magazine. hello. how do you react to this? we are hello. how do you react to this? we a re really hello. how do you react to this? we are really supportive, it's a landmark day for road safety. u nfortu nately, road landmark day for road safety. unfortunately, road safety are stagnating in the eu and in britain. we really need a next step change. this can be the biggest introduction for safety in the uk since the seat belt. what do you think? well, i
think that the issue is that we've got the technology already. we have in ourcars got the technology already. we have in our cars speed limiters and cruise controls already, we have the ability using our satnav is to see what the speed limit is all the camera that sits on the windscreen that will read the speed signs as you go past them. basically all we are doing is gluing those two things together and making it something that's automatically going to help us that's automatically going to help us drive at the correct speed. when the aa say a little speed can be helpful, for example on motorways, what do you say? speeding is illegal. this will you exceeding the speed limit and reduce engine power. there won't be any braking effect. it can be overridden, in the event you are overtaking. baa saying a
little speed can help —— the aa. occasionally, but has wasjust little speed can help —— the aa. occasionally, but has was just that you can override it and the key thing is it's helping us drive better and using technology to make the roads safer, which clearly i think we would all want, wouldn't we? yes. thank you bates. ——thank you both. bbc newsroom live is coming up next. thank you for your company today. have a good day. good morning. some of the started off with some sunshine this morning. many more of us are going to see a bit of sunshine as we head into the afternoon. still quite a bit of cloud across scotland, northern ireland through northern and eastern
areas of england. during the afternoon the cloud will break up to some sunny spells. certainly sunny spells to the east of scotland and the north of northern ireland. that will continue through the afternoon with maximum temperatures up to 13-15. with maximum temperatures up to 13—15. tonight, with lengthy clear spells, probably colder for many of us. temperatures could fall close to freezing. certainly, a touch colder around the countryside than it is in the towns and cities. temperatures generally around 3—6. 0n the towns and cities. temperatures generally around 3—6. on thursday, lots of dry weather again with plenty of sunshine throughout the day after mis—timed hunt for players away. temperatures a little bit higher.
this is bbc news. i'm annita mcveigh — live in westminster. could there be a plan b for brexit? mps are taking control of the commons today to vote on alternatives to the prime minister's deal. the prime minister will meet conservative backbenchers in an effort to win their support for her deal. one leading brexiteer indicated he is leaning towards supporting mrs may's deal. it is a hierarchy of choices. leaving without a deal would have been my top choice now. then you come to mrs may's deal, and then you come to not leaving at all. and mrs may's deal is better than not leaving at all. strong words in strasbourg in support of people who wish to remain in the eu. the uk's position still