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this is bbc news, i'm shaun levy. the headlines at 12... police in hong kong use tear gas and water cannon to try and disperse large crowds of pro—democracy protesters. this is the scene live in hong kong, where demonstrators have been lighting fires and attacking a key government building. the chancellor, sajid javid, insists his relationship with borisjohnson is "fantastic", despite downing street abruptly firing one of his special advisers sonia khan. i am not going to discuss any personnel issues, it would be inappropriate. i think my views are well understood. the relationship is fantastic with the prime minister. and strictly come dancing looks set to allow same—sex couples to compete from next year. and click looks at a new technology called object based media. that's in half an hour, here on bbc news.
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police in hong kong have fired tear gas and used water canon to fire blue—dyed water to try to and break up large crowds of protesters who've rallied in defiance of a ban. an event to mark five years since beijing ruled out fully democratic elections was banned by officials and called off by organisers. police had warned potential protesters that they risked arrest if they turned out. let's ta ke let's take a look at the scene in hong kong. it is evening in hong kong. the protesters have not
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dispersed by any means during the class of the protests which were dispersed earlier by the police, using both tear gas, fired by police officers, some up on balconies above the mean protesters as they attempted to cause the protesters to disperse. some difficulty dispersing, not least because some of the key transport networks have been shut and the stations have been shut because of concerns about possible violence inside the stations and a way of reducing the numbers that were able to get into central hong kong. they didn't appear to discourage a significant number of protesters, according to oui’ number of protesters, according to our concert delete my correspondence. stephen mcdonell was at the heart of the process, you will have seen his latest report about an hour ago as we were seeing some of the tear gas showers explode
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and the dyed water being sprayed on protesters as well as an attempt to discourage them. it is a little calmer now after the intervention of the police. riot officers are still on the ground in this part of central hong kong, trying to corral the protesters at the very least with the aim of dispersing them. many of the protesters have said they will keep coming back until the hong kong government capitulate on three essential issues to them. one is confirming the extradition law, the one that sparked these protests, meaning people could face the chinese courts with those being more influenced by the chinese cuts, less so influenced by the chinese cuts, less so the uk ones, as the uk used to run hong kong as a colonies until leasing it until the chinese. it was
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given back in 1997. the idea was it would be one countryjoint committee on human rights systems, so these are the extradition law as an attempt to diminish the extradition they had until hong kong is fully absorbed into finer in 20 years' time. the protests went into something bigger and now they want an enquiry into police violence and also moves the first free elections, more democracy, not less. let's hear from... laurie wen. she's a pro—democracy protestor who has just left the admiratly in hong kong. i know it has been a confusing picture. nonetheless, we saw the large number of people prepared to defy. why did you go ahead despite
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that? presumably you knew the risk you were running. people came out today because we don't want to live in fear. that is no way to live. it is getting harder does not live in fear in hong kong when the chinese communist party through their government into hong kong, have stepped up in their repression of the pro—democracy movement. it is getting harder and harder because when prominent figures in the movement are rounded up, arrested and charged with things like rioting, which they were not doing, and they were facing ten yea rs doing, and they were facing ten years in prison, when prominent figures in the movement are attacked by hired thugs whilst eating lunch ina by hired thugs whilst eating lunch in a restaurant, it is getting harder and harder. but people in hong kong in the millions are coming out because it is worth fighting for, people want to live freely and
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it is very moving to see how many people are still willing to come out when the cost of participating in the movement are getting higher and higher. it is important to know that many of us who came out today were not breaking the law, we were walking on the sidewalk when tear gas canisters were fired by the police around the government headquarters and admiralty, they shot dozens of them and many of us wear on the sidewalk in front of pacific place, a relatively fancy shopping mall. but we had also just seen pictures two hours ago of people ripping down pa rt two hours ago of people ripping down part of the facade of that building ina quite part of the facade of that building in a quite deliberate act because it was celebrating the foundation of communist finer and the anniversary
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of which is coming up in a few weeks' time. there must be a worry that the more those kinds of provocative acts, even if they are not designed to provoke, are having an effect on what beijing is such an important anniversary, increasing the chances of a much more repressive response from the authorities. there are certainly people in the movement who... let me put it this way, if you have a movement in which eve ryo ne way, if you have a movement in which everyone agrees on everything all the time, you have a movement of about five people, or maybe one person, or people or more, they have different ideas on how to achieve goals. this is a movement of millions of people. the population is 7.5 million and we have had to make million people matching, 1.7 million people... can you imagine
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wherever you live, you are watching this, almost a third of your entire population over and over again getting out on the streets and matching and demanding democracy and freedom. so when you have a movement that large, not everyone is going to agree. the vast majority of the people are in the camp we call the peaceful, rational, non—violent, and there are a small number of folks who are trying tactics that many of us who are trying tactics that many of us don't support, throwing bricks, and recently even petrol bombs. that is very upsetting to a lot of people who adhere to non—violent principles such as myself. on the other hand, at the same time, a lot of people in the non—violent camp i tried to ask why are others who disagree with us in terms of tactics, why have they been pushed to do what they do? we are going to have to leave it there, i'm afraid. thank you so much
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for speaking to us. we hope to speak to you again. the mp for the isle of wight, bob seely, is in hong kong this weekend to observe the demonstrations. what did you make of this evening's developments? things seem to follow a pattern, and with both sides it is reasonably controlled, but today they appear to be reasonably controlled. thousands of people out in the afternoon in the torrential rain. that reduced it toa the torrential rain. that reduced it to a few tens of thousands this evening. and there was civil disobedience, semi—violent stand—off, some tyre gas starting at about two hours ago, some water cannon with some blue water in it, probably to mark the protesters so they can be picked up tomorrow and in preceding days or the coming days. i haven't seen any rubber bullets and the protesters
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themselves are quite organised, there where human chains passing water and umbrellas and helping with the tear gas from the shopping centres, very often, up until the front lines and in the stand—off with the police. how do you think the international community can most helpfully influenced finer‘s actions if at all? we are coming up to a sensitive moment because of the 70th anniversary of the foundation of communist finer. it wants to be seen as celebrating all its achievements, economic achievements, international status. does that present an opportunity to persuade it not to go down the route that many fear it will adopt in hong kong if the protests develop? depends on the calculations in beijing. ican depends on the calculations in beijing. i can only guess as you, either they say we don't want attract too much attention to a violent clamp—down in hong kong, are the police here are there is
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political law being squeezed by beijing, and then the authorities in beijing, and then the authorities in beijing and the authorities in hong kong who answer to them who are looking as though they are moving away from the one country, systems approach to one country, one system approach. this is part of the increasing power in the world of china, but also the increasing threat of authoritarianism in china, hong kong and elsewhere. and we will be seeing protests in russia this afternoon, although in different circumstances, a different country, but a similar theme, wanting more democracy. i know you area big wanting more democracy. i know you are a big campaign, concerned about what is happening there as well. what responsibility on us in particular in hong kong, giving that we signed thatjoint agreement with the chinese? the chinese signed the british delegation, they said... it is still
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valid now despite what the chinese government says. we do have a lot of soft power and our legal system, culture is influential and our language as well and we have every right to call out the chinese, the chinese authorities in beijing, on the sign of the british declaration if we believe it is not being honoured. we should do more often. believe many western countries and other countries of they will have to work out how to deal with china, not only with it being a superpower, but it is not necessarily liberalising but going in the opposite direction and re—authoritarian rising. how do we deal with a country that is increasing in power and authoritarian approach to problem—solving? authoritarian approach to problem—solving ? whether you authoritarian approach to problem—solving? whether you are in hong kong or taiwan or you arejust passing transparency bills in your country or you abbott and wondering
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whether you are going to have huawei in your critical infrastructure, there are big questions that need to be asked about the role of china and the vision for humanity. are we going to maintain a liberal western model of human rights? or will it become more authoritarian? the chancellor sajid javid insists that he has a fantastic relationship with the prime minister, despite rowing with him about the sacking of one of his special advisers. the adviser — sonia khan — was dismissed by borisjohnson's top aide, dominic cummings, after reportedly being questioned about contacts with former colleagues. there's no evidence she'd released sensitive information. let's get more on this from our political reporterjohn owen. sajid javid was tackled about this this morning on radio. did not want to go into the details, but he said interesting, something cryptic, when he said my view on this is well
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known. presumably not well known to us known. presumably not well known to us because he is not doing interviews about it. that was a message presumably that is well known in government, downing street. i think this is not something that sajid javid wants to talk about too much, he was clear on the radio this morning that he won't be commenting on staffing issues. the background is that sonia khan, who was the special adviser to the chancellor was led out of downing street in fairly dramatic fashion on thursday night after being questioned by dominic cummings, boris johnson's night after being questioned by dominic cummings, borisjohnson's de fa cto dominic cummings, borisjohnson's de facto chief of staff. he suspected that she had been reading confidential material, it seems that that was not the case, but she had lost his confidence and she was summarily sacked. the more of recent development is that we believe sajid javid voiced anger to the prime minister about this sacking and he said that he did not know in advance
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about it and so was clearly quite upset about it. let's hear what he had to say. well, i am not going to discuss personnel issues, it would be appropriate. i think my views are well understand. the relationship is fantastic with the prime minister. this is a prime minister that, first before he was prime minister, someone i have always got on with incredibly well, and it has been a real privilege for me to work with him so closely on delivering on these people's priorities, and that relationship is as strong as ever, and what it does mean, by having that strong link, is that we can focus on all these things that matter to so many people. what about your relationship with dominic cummings? i am not going to talk about personnel relationships, especially when — you asked me about the prime minister it is perfectly correct to do that, the prime minister is my boss and we work together, along with other cabinet colleagues to deliver, so i am not here to talk about particular individuals that
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are advisers in downing street. he explains it is important to stress his fantastic relationship, given that we know how damaging any impression can be that number 10 and number 11 impression can be that number 10 and number11 and singing impression can be that number 10 and number 11 and singing from the same hymn sheet. historically that has been a quite fraught relationship, difficult to navigate, let say. although we have heard from that the two men seem to get on well, as sajid javid was saying on the radio this morning. it sees that we are not seeing a breakdown in relationship... that a blair — brown kind of thing. but they are extremely keen to stress that the relationship between number 10 stress that the relationship between number10 and number11 stress that the relationship between number 10 and number 11 is fully intact. there were leadership rivals in the tory leadership competition, but quickly decided jahvid threw his weight behind boris johnson, but quickly decided jahvid threw his weight behind borisjohnson, but we are not seeing any collapse in that
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relationship. thank you very much about. £400 million of additional funding is to be given to colleges offering vocational training for 16—18 year olds in england. the treasury says the money will support the introduction of new t—level qualifications next year. a government review earlier this year found that £1 billion of capital investment was needed for further education colleges. the education secretary, gavin williamson said today's announcement is a signficant boost. it is a significant increase in terms of the amount of funding that all sixth forms and further education establishments will be having and it will be making sure that we have got the right skills for our young people to equip britain for future generations. pauljohnson is director of the institute for fiscal studies. much clearer picture and therefore better sound as well! i hope you can
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hear me nice and clearly. good to have you with us again. there would have you with us again. there would have any general election in 2017 of a magic money tree which theresa may was derisive, accusing labour of making promises it afford. has boris johnson discovered that tree? the announcements we have heard in the last couple of days as significant for schools, genuinely significant for schools, genuinely significant schools and further education, but they are not enormous in terms of the scale of the sort of things that were talked about in the last election. i think the real question will come when we see what else comes in the spending agreement, we know there will be more money for police, but will there be more money for other services? then the budget, because when they do get into territory where you wonder where the money comes from, it could be an increase in spending and cutting taxes in the way that the prime minister has pledged. at the moment, we are
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borrowing pretty small amounts on historical standards, and would be evidently viable. and as borrowing cheaper at the moment and it was back in 2010 when austerity began? borrowing is much cheaper, interest rates are very low, the remarkable fa ct rates are very low, the remarkable fact is whilst the outstanding debt the government holds is now very high, much more than twice it was before the last crisis, the amount of debt interest that we are paying is less fun it was back then because interest rates are so low. at the moment it looks like interest rates will remain low for some period. the risk is at some point they may start to rise again and then it will become difficult to service the large amount of debt that we have. and i suppose that raises the question that we have talked about more badly on a global level is the risk of a recession, a global recession of some kind. there is business in the eurozone about that. it's at the sort of external factor
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that a chancellor can't do much about but could actually make his own sums that much more difficult? absolutely, there are to make big worries for the chancellor, the first is that the world economy as a whole is slowing, we know that the potential trade war between china and the us is holding back growth globally and uncertainty over brexit is holding it back in the uk at the moment, it looks like a growth this year will be less even than the very modest forecast we had from the office back in the spring and then you add to that the possibility that we end up with a no—deal brexit, which the scale of the impact of that on the economy, we are not sure, but we're sure it will be negative, you put those together and there is a risk that the economy grows very slowly or indeed contracts grows very slowly or indeed co ntra cts a grows very slowly or indeed contracts a bit over the next year or two. in that world, that starts to rise relatively fast, the deficit
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sta rts to rise relatively fast, the deficit starts to grow again. the biggest worry here is that we see these spending tax opening, at the moment, the economy either international reasons or what has happened with brexit stats to do badly, the deficit debt grows and then we potentially have to go through yet another period of attachment or posterity to get that deficit back under control over the 2020s, that is something the chancellor does not have much control over at the moment. you will have a busy week with this spending review coming up. for now, thank you very much. pauljohnson there. now we can take a look at the picture in central london this lunchtime. this is one of the protests that has been organised of the minister's announcement of the prorogation which he asked the queen to instruct and duly carried out. it
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means there will be a five—week period where parliament will not be sitting, part of the period is routine, where parliament doesn't sit because of the party conferences, and as the prime minister stresses, it is entirely routine to prorogue parliament. the argument is over the motive and the length of the prorogation. our correspondent simonjones is at one of the protests in westminster. simon, it looks very crowded behind you. we have a big rallies and demonstrations in central london before with the protests, the supporters, some of the fuel protests a nd supporters, some of the fuel protests and recently campaigns, very protests over brexit. there are thousands of people who have come outside downing street,
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just along via, and walking through the crowds, you have the stage behind me, at the moment diane abbott has just taken to the stage. the theme of today is to stop the coup, the people here are saying that boris johnson coup, the people here are saying that borisjohnson is trying to bury democracy by suspending parliament for five weeks. they say here they can't rely on the parliamentary process or other legal challenges. what they are relying on here, they say, is the voice of the people, and the people making their views known. diane abbott about getting quite a rapturous reception here, but i have been speaking to some people here, one man for example who is 71, he said he thought he would never be out on the street protesting again something like this. i spoke to a schoolgirl who is here with her mother who said that she felt compelled to come out because she had learnt in school about democracy and in her view this wasn't
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democracy. there are also a few people here totally of the opposite view. i spoke to one man who had come along to say, actually, the people here are the ones trying to thwart democracy because they are trying to stop brexit from happening. i put that to some other campaigners. they say this is not about stopping brexit, this is stopping the suspension of parliament which they claim will —— there will not be enough time for brexit to be debated. as for the government, they say there will be ample time for this to be discussed, but there are scenes here with people showing something to think about, the strength of feeling here. simonjones in about, the strength of feeling here. simon jones in central about, the strength of feeling here. simonjones in central london, thank you very much. i should say there are rallies organised by a number of groups, should be 32 rallies being organised by protesters around the country in cities including belfast, bristol and aberdeen. also there is
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bodmin and clitheroe. let's speak to dr paul bagguley who is the sociologist at the university of leeds. he has been looking at the effect of brexit on protests. thank you very much for the coming to talk to us. what difference has the period after the referendum compared to the period before the referendum in terms of a kind of public protests and the way people are contributing to the political debate? i think one of the most important things is the role of social media which gives pretty much everyone access to a political voice any public arena. it is very interesting the speed of this mobilisation, the scale of it, meaning just a few days, and that has been facilitated by social media, that the organisations behind the protests are using, they already have the contacts, e—mail lists and twitter followers, facebook followers in order to mobilise people quickly. at the same time, i think there is a
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sense in which the brexit vote opened up questions that were previously hidden behind closed doors, so people are more willing to question issues like immigration and protesting in a public way about those issues. and also in terms of opposition to brexit, it also opened about up as people questioning politicians and their motivations. and this kind of argument about where, what is democracy, whether democracy is the expression of the popular will of a referendum or the expression of the well for the election of a parliament, that is does anybody quite a combustible question as well in terms of the alternative, saying, if you do not like what is done in parliament, you ta ke like what is done in parliament, you take your argument onto the streets? yes, because certainly as far as referendums go, there are very few in british history, it is a
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representative democracy and i think running the referendum puts into question the legitimacy of representative democracy. when people start seeing representative democracy not working for the issues they are concerned about, they are in the future going to be pushing for referendums and they have become increasingly frequent, so again in scotland, no doubt the question of a referendum for independence will come up. thank you very much for coming into the studio to talk about that. it has been interesting to see how your research continues on this subject as it gets to be such an interesting time. now the live pictures in hong kong because we have a fire which has broken out and this is notwithstanding with suggestions earlier that things had calmed down significantly. it does not look very calm at the moment, although it is fairto calm at the moment, although it is fair to say the protests themselves, as we heard from bob seeley, a much
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diminished as to what they were just a few moments ago. hong kong protesters have been throwing petrol bombs towards police lines, according to the news agency reuters. that may have cause the fire. it is not an image the hong kong authorities would want people to see. it is interesting to see the retail sales figures in hong kong that came out at the end of the week showed the lowest level of retail sales in hong kong since very early in the year. the three months of protests are having an impact. not so far in tourism or business, but they are no financial services and assurances and so on, and now starting to have an impact possibly, andi starting to have an impact possibly, and i spoke to one shopkeeper a few days ago who told me from hong kong on the line that the effect is starting to feel very significant indeed for retailers working in that city.
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now it's time for a look at the weather with ben rich. hello. it's the last day of august and the weather certainly has an end of summer feel about it. we've got some rain continuing to slide eastwards at the moment, and behind that rain band things are turning cooler. this is how it looks through the afternoon. still some heavy and persistent rain falling across the north of scotland. this band of cloud and patchy rain will continue to stagger eastwards across england. it is behind that band of cloud and rain that we get into the cooler fresher air with a mixture of sunny spells and showers. as we go through this evening we lose what's left of that band of cloud and rain from the south—east, all of us into the cool air. clear skies and some showers blowing into scotland and northern ireland, and overnight lows between eight and 11 degrees. a much fresher night than we've been used to lately. so a cool start to sunday morning, quite a bright day in prospect with long spells of sunshine. still some showers into northern ireland, scotland, northern england, one or two perhaps sinking down into east anglia. further south and west, not as many showers, more spells of sunshine, but those temperatures just 13 to 21 degrees.
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hello, this is bbc news. the headlines... there have been violent clashes in hong kong, where some pro—democracy protesters have thrown petrol bombs and police have fired tear gas and water cannon. it is now evening in hong kong. protesters have been lighting fires and attacking a key government building, ripping down signs celebrating the forthcoming 70th anniversary of the establishment of communist china. the chancellor, sajid javid, insists his relationship with borisjohnson is "fantastic", despite downing street abruptly firing one of his special advisers, sonia khan. i am not going to discuss any personnel issues, it would be inappropriate.


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